'Tun tun'?? I think not!!!! - Page 9

Originally posted by: hiten_fan

hmmmmm interesting point...

😆 Sochne wali baat hai! But true, we should not insult Tuntun either by comparing her with Tanya. At least, Tuntun was bearable becoz of the comic relief she provided.

holy crap...u all should make ur own little kyunki serial... 😆 I think some of u don't have anything useful to do with your lives???I think this is a bit too dragged..but watever.goodluck to whoever is in this argument 😉

i agree with the original post theres way too much bashing going on this forum especially when ppl talk about karan-nandani-tanya

good of the OP for bring up this point 👏

hey guys. heres a link to an article about tun tun.

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THE female of the species is deadlier than the male, Rudyard Kipling wisely said. But is she also funnier? Bollywood doesn't think so at all, going by the never-ending paucity of comediennes in Hindi cinema.

Comedy has virtually become a male preserve these days, with Paresh Rawal, Johnny Lever, Shakti Kapoor and Rajpal Yadav strutting their stuff in one film after another. On top of that, almost every hero is jumping on the fun bandwagon.

On the distaff side, Bindu and Archana Puran Singh have done some comic roles, but these have been just cameos. Bindu was delightful as Mrs Kakkar, the Hindi teacher who pronounces English words with a Punjabi accent in Main Hoon Na (2004), while Archana was the maddening mother-in-law in Masti (2004). Interestingly, both actresses were famous vamps during their younger days (just as Shakti Kapoor and Kadar Khan were established villains before they turned to comedy). Sometimes cast as a love-starved spinster, they have gleefully parodied their "seductress act" — take Bindu in Aankhen (1993) and Shola Aur Shabnam (1992) or Archana as Ms Briganza in Kuch Kuch Hota Hai (1998). Upasana Singh, too, has played the comical vamp at times, notably in Hungama (2003).

"Most actresses are reluctant to become a figure of fun," says renowned comedian Jaspal Bhatti. "They would rather look glamorous than ridiculous."

There has been only one comedienne in Bollywood history who has given her male counterparts a run for their funny money — the inimitable Tun Tun. She started off as a singer but soon switched over to comedy. In her debut film Babul (1950), she had the privilege of working with Dilip Kumar (he was the one who changed her name from Uma Devi to Tun Tun). Using her rotund figure to great effect, she tickled many a funny bone with her performances in umpteen films, notably Guru Dutt's classics like Mr & Mrs 55 (1955) and Pyaasa (1957). She acted with top comedians like Johnny Walker, Dhumal and Bhagwan, but never let them steal a scene. Tun Tun's contemporaries Lalita Pawar and Shashikala occasionally excelled in comic roles, but they never threatened to dethrone the comedy queen.

Ashok Kumar's daughter Preeti Ganguly followed in Tun Tun's footsteps as "the funny fat female". She was very good as Freni, the die-hard Amitabh Bachchan fan, in Khatta Meetha (a remake of the Lucille Ball comedy Yours, Mine and Ours). On the whole, Preeti failed to establish herself as a big-time comic actress. Last year, she made a surprise appearance in Aashiq Banaya Aapne. Her replacement of sorts, Guddi Maruti, has never done anything better than playing the heroine's roly-poly friend in films like Shola Aur Shabnam.

Even top heroines rarely get meaty roles in comedies. Quite often, they have played second fiddle to heroes like Govinda, Salman Khan and Akshay Kumar. Preity Zinta and Rani Mukherjee have a flair for comedy, but they have never got a plum part like the one Rekha played with aplomb in Khubsoorat (1980).

On the small screen, women contestants are conspicuous by their absence in The Great Indian Laughter Challenge, which indicates that budding actresses are not keen to specialise in comedy. Among the veterans, Ratna Pathak Shah is a joy to watch in the entertaining sitcom Sarabhai vs Sarabhai (she was also superb in Filmi Chakkar). However, her comic talent hasn't been tapped by Hindi film-makers.

Bhatti thinks that male performers are better suited for the kind of loud and crude humour in vogue today. His wife Savita, who has done comedy in TV serials as well as films, says that actresses like her usually get stereotyped movie roles in which there is little scope for showing one's histrionic prowess.

With Bollywood loath to create a conducive environment for comediennes, their scarcity will inevitably go from bad to worse. That won't be a funny development, to say the least.

Tun Tun. The name conjures up the image of a roly-poly, funny woman. She was christened thus by none other than Dilip Kumar. She was working with the thespian in her first film Babul which had Nargis in the romantic lead. And the impact that she made with her debut was so "heavy" that Tun Tun emerged an overnight star. She was indeed Hindi cinema's first-ever comedienne and roles were specially written for her. She did not make a special pair with any one comedian but she was paired with everyone from Bhagwan Dada, Agha, Sunder, Mukri, Dhumal, Johnny Walker to Keshto Mukherji.

The funny thing was that while all other heroines were on a constant diet, watching what they ate, Tun Tun made it a point to carry a dabba with her all the time, nibbling at junk food and mithai every minute she was on the sets. "I had to maintain myself," she often joked.

But Tun Tun, whose real name was Uma Devi, did not join the film industry to become an actress. She wanted to be a singer. In fact, even as a child she only dreamt of becoming a singer. And not just that, she, at the age of eight, had some great, almost impossible dreams. If and when she would sing, it had to be for Naushad only! She would not sin g for any lesser music-director. Naturally, she had to struggle very hard to make the dream come true.

Orphaned as an infant, Uma was raised by her chacha in an obscure village near Mathura. Girls were not sent to school as a matter of course. Consequently, as a child Uma would climb on imli trees, play on farmyards and listen to film songs on the radio. She would listen to the names of the singers and music directors being announced on the radio and dream of hearing her name on the air waves.

However, a major hurdle stood in the way. Singing was taboo in her orthodox North Indian household. She began practising singing on the sly. Ramlila and film songs were her source of inspiration. She taught herself to read and write Hindi and later picked up a smattering of Urdu and English to get by in showbiz.

Luckily for Uma, her friend from Delhi came to her village. She was educated and had connections in the Bombay film industry. She wrote to her director friend in the tinsel-town to help Uma. In 1946, all of 13, Uma boarded the train to Bombay without informing her chacha. In Bombay she struck up an instant friendship with actor-director Arun Ahuja and his singer-wife Nirmala Devi (Govinda's parents). They introduced her to various music directors.

One of them was Allah Rakha who agreed to give her one song in the film Wamaq Azro, the others being sung by Mallika Pukhraj. Thus, Uma Devi sang Hai do dil milte milte reh gaye... and got paid Rs 200, a princely sum those days.

The quest for Naushad continued. Finally, A.R. Kardar, who was looking for fresh female voice for a new heroine, that is, Suraiya, introduced her to Naushad. She told him if he did not give her a chance, she would jump into the sea, which happened to be right across the bungalow where they were . The great music director asked the chubby Uma what was the "sur" she sang in. Uma was blank. She asked him to listen to her and decide. After listening to her for 10 minutes, Naushad gave the nod. A contract was signed and Uma was enrolled at Kardar Productions. She was paid Rs 500 as advance and arrangements were also made for her stay at the official guest house where the staff stayed.

Uma sang Afsana likh rahi hoon, dil-e-baqarar ka, aankhon mein rang bhar ke tere intezar ka... for Suraiya. The song floored the nation and established her as a front-ranker in the era of Noor Jahan Shamshad Begum and Mallika Pukhraj (Lata Mangeshkar had not yet arrived on the scene). She became Naushad's favourite singer and he would reserve at least two songs for her in each of his films.

Uma Devi's Kahin jiya dole... and Dil ko lagaya humne... from Anokhi Ada cemented her popularity. She was offered Chandralekha by director S.S. Vasan of Madras. She had to sing seven classical songs for music director S.S. Rajeshwarrao. Uma realised these were beyond her capabilities. However, Rajeshwarrao worked hard on her and helped her sing the compositions.

Uma's career as a singer was short-lived. New singers entered the industry. It was impossible to keep pace with Lata Mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle. "Rakhi"-brother Naushad used to compose songs to suit her range. But that could not have continued for long.

It was time to change tracks. Naushad advised her to switch to acting. He felt she would make an excellent comedienne for she had a natural flair for the funny stuff.

Once again, Uma wanted the best. She said she wanted a role opposite Dilip Kumar. Naushad couldn't stop laughing, but he talked to Dilip. A role was created for Uma and she got her first film Babul in 1950. A scene required her to chase Dilip around a charpai (cot), but she ran so fast that she would leave the hero behind. Ultimately, after repeated takes, she pulled him in front of her. But in the process she fell on the charpai and Dilip fell on her. The shot was canned and they retained the shot. The credits announced her name as Uma Devi, but they decided to give her a screen name. It was Dilip Kumar's idea to call her Tun Tun.

Tun Tun did many films later. She had a fan in Guru Dutt and acted in almost all his films. Her favourite role too was from Guru Dutt's Mr and Mrs 55 in which she played a Christian lady.

Having more or less left films, Tun Tun, alias Uma Devi, led a retired life in a middle-class residence at Andheri, Mumbai. She spent her time playing with her grandchildren or listening to her favourite songs on All-India Radio. It was, after all, listening to the radio that got her attracted to the film industry in the first place, wasn't it?

For the people that said that they may be referring to Tanya as Tun Tun in the way of means that she's humorous.

Is Tanya really a humorous character? According to the article posted, they're talking about glamour..and then they go to the topic about Tun Tun which is obvious that in that artcile they're talking about Tun Tun's obesity. It's kind of obvious that the people referring to Tanya as "Tun Tun Tanya" are referring to weight, not humour.

Originally posted by: darkness_123

ok before i say wat i have to about this quote i just wanna clarify that i completely agree that rakshanda khan should not be attacked because of the character that she portrays onscreen and i have read all ur messages that are sayin that ur not just tellin ght fans to stop this kind of abuse.......but what exactly do you mean by only ght fans have a problem? are only they possible of havin a grievance? cos to me that sounds like a lakshya-kt fan for example, does not have the capability to be critical about sum1s appearance. it doesnt matter where ur allegiance is, you can still go over the line of acceptableness! stop saying sum ght fans can be extremely critical - just say some MEMBERS of the forum can be.

if anyones offended, and the way this post is goin i bet sum1 will be, then i apologise but if u try to read my msg objectively u'll get wat i mean.

Originally posted by: darkness_123

It's really sad that we have to keep making these topics every two months or so, but I really think this is necessary...

Ok... Now that Nandini has come back, a lotta her fans have come back to the forums too... While being fans of someone is one thing, abusing another character, based on her looks/weight is another. Yes, we understand that Tanya is a negative character and may grate on your nerves, but calling her "tun tun"/"moti"/"elephant"/"ugly"/ "witch" etc is NOT TOLERATED HERE, as it borders on abusing the actor for the way she looks.

Also, It's been brought to our attention that there are members here who have been harassing Reshmi due to her skin color. That is also not tolerated.

From now on, any deragatory remark made about ANY CHARACTER based on his/her looks will warrant a IMMEDIATE RAISE IN WARNING LEVELS.

Hope you will cooperate,
KSBKBT Dev Team...

thank u guyz!! soo much for making this post! it was very badly needed.. i just cudnt belive how many ppl were making such rude remarks about rakshandha khan/ tanya..it relly hurt..especially me being a fan of herz...now i hope that noone will be making rude gestures about tanya.😳