Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi 2: EDT # 2 - Page 139

Originally posted by: adeela

let me clear you karan was right nandini sacrificed karan ,bhoomi and her everything she have just for tanya's sake . When nandini was released out of jail she came back to be with karan and bhoomi but when she saw tanya she backed out. Before leap when nandini recovered from coma karan used to meet tanya since he felt guilty and considered her his responsibility, although he told her everytime that he can't give her the rights of being his wife . Karan said to tanya she shouldn't expect something which he can't give ,you are part of my life but nandini is my life ,he loves nandini a lot . He consummated his marriage with nandini nandini got pregnant. When nandini went to jail and tanya come back to live in sn karan repeatedly told to tanya that he can't give tanya the place of nandini in his life and heart. All these 20 years karan was faithful and loyal to nandini waiting for her to return. Tanya was just mother of his kids not his wife. Nobody asked tanya to live with a man who doesn't love her , it's tanya's desicion. Tanya herself become filler in nandini's absence when she went to coma and jail no one forced her . For me nandini & ansh's wedding, karan & tanya's wedding , ansh raped nandini , karan consummated with tanya were worst scenes of kyunki . Karan never wanted to marry tanya he did it under family pressure ,despite knowing karan loves nandini only and tulsi made karan say yes to marriage why did tanya marry him ? If she really wanted to raised bhoomi she can do it without marrying karan. Karan didn't accept tanya until 3 years of marriage but again tulsi forced him she said to karan give tanya the rights of his wife and accept it nandini will not come back from coma into his life. Karan also started liking tanya but you cant call it love because karan left his wedding anniversary with the news of nandini waking up , he was unable to control his feelings forgot everything and happily run to meet nandini. When nandini read karan's diary and fainted karan took her to the hospital he clearly told to tulsi front of tanya that he will end all those relations who came between him and nandini. It didn't take him 3 years to get back with nandini as it took him to accept tanya.

I dont completely agree with you adeela...Karan and Tanya had their own blunders we cant just place blame on tanya in all situations...starting with Karan though he agreed to marry tanya due to family, he was not a kid...he was a grown adult ...he could have backed out but he married which was his own decision...

If I remember properly at one point in the mandap he remembers all the time he spent with nandini and he feels like he is cheating nands ...he literally backed out from marriage...but then he saw Bhumi crying and tanya pacifying her...he then just went ahead with marriage because of his own selfish reasons that is Bhumi...he wanted a mother for bhumi and it was his own decision...and with this we can just conclude it was not family pressure but it was his own decision...

Again ppl may ask Tanya got attched to bhumi or she used bhumi to marry karan...narrative never mentioned Tanya using bhumi to marry karan...Karan didn't even look at bhumi after she was born...he despised that kid...and Tanya used to visit virani house and she grew attached to bhumi...Ganga and damini pushed for Karan - Tanya marriage and Tulsi pressurized him but here tany's intention was not at all malice..she didn't get close to bhumi to marry karan...but when there was an opportunity she agreed and karan though initially agreed to marry under tulsi's pressure later he himself decided in mandap to marry looking at bhumi...so tanya-karan had their own interests in this marriage...for tanya it was bhumi + she found an opportunity to marry her love....for karan it was just a marriage of convenience for sake of bhumi

Then he took time to move on but he actually accepted tanya after 3 yrs...he accepted her in every sense... he accepted that he fell in love with Tanya, he impregnated her. It was shown that karan would shower tanya with lovely surprises after 3 yrs of marriage when he moved on... I am not blaming karan for falling in love with tanya...nands was in coma ...and he took his time to move on...so basically he loved tanya but he was madly in love with nands...

Also one might argue tanya created misunderstandings between Karan and nandini during the entire Ansh Kaand...but nandini came and expressed her lover for karan...he pushed her away coz Tulsi had fixed her marriage with Ansh...Tanya didn't fuel his decision to push away Nands ...it was karan's own decision to push nandini away as he felt indebted to tulsi...why to hide or push away ur love? he could have just accepted and had a dialogue with Tusli...but he didn't...so he was at fault...

Though Ansh, tanya were causing misunderstandings, though ansh manipulated tulsi to get him married to Nandini - it was karan who pushed away nandini and she agreed to marry ansh... it was no one's fault neither Ansh or Tanya's ...it was solely Karan's fault for outright lying, pushing nands away and for not having any convo with Tulsi regarding his love for nands...

now you mentioned he felt responsible towards tanya fair enough but why did he get angry when nands wanted to search a groom for tanya? isn't is bcoz he still had lingering feelings towards tanya...towards end of leap he came out of his feelings towards tanya...he mentioned loving nands alone...and it was tanya who accepted to stay in a loveless marriage..the terms were clear but just from another perspective is it not like karan was taking advantage of Tanya to look after kids...when he knew he cant love tanya, when he knew he will bring back nandini after she completes serving her jail term...when he knew what he would do ....why did he even agree in first place to stay with tanya? why did he remarry her? he could have backed out but he didn't....blaming tanya alone in all this is not right according to me...

Tanya had her own shortcomings which I explained in my other post...but karan was not a dood ka dhula...all in all I feel only sad for nandini...she wa a selfless soul and she went through a lot

She married ansh and probably she would not have left him if he didn't become psycho during their first night...she was ready to start her new life with Ansh according to the narrative but it was ansh who behaved like a psychopath in their first night and she ran away...she came to know Karan loved her and wanted to get back with him but she was raped...Ansh died but she became preggers ...she gave birth but she fell in coma...when she woke up from coma...her husband had married her best friend, her own daughter was addressing some one else as mother and finally she went to jail trying to protect her daughter...serving her jail term she came back to meet her daughter but her daughter was almost 17 and she already had accepted someone else as her mother...she saw her friend who had nursed her daughter and didn't wanted to ruin her family and she went away leaving her love and daughter back...so if there is someone who had went through painful events it was nandini...neither karan nor tanya

Tanya had her delusions but karan fueled her delusions...either he shud have backed out from staying with tanya else he shud have accepted her completely...if you are staying with a person for 20 yrs it looks like taking mere advantage of a person to raise a child...

I like karan-nandini as couple...their chemistry is top notch but story wise karan was not a great husband to nandini or tanya...he was in love with nandini madly but behind her back he went to meet tanya along with their daughter bhumi which is nothing but emotional cheating...then he was with tanya for 20 long yrs for his own selfish reasons of raising his kids...

tanya was a desperate wife living in her own delusions who turned evil when her delusional castle shattered...

The one who suffered for no reason was Nandini in all this fiasco...

Originally posted by: AninditaB

What is Ekta doing to Tulsi?? she's just doormat ×100

Originally posted by: BangBang_Shilpa

Noyna mera ghar kabhi ni todegi, I trust her says Tulsi

Galat kar rhi ho Noyna, agar tum soch rahi ki Mihir akele hai. Wo akele nhi hai Noyna, unka ghar parivaar hai.

Thank you Tulsi

Originally posted by: Me_Harini

I dont blame Tanya atleast till tripti brainwashed her and moreover she wasn't outright evil at least until Tripti brainwashed her...ppl may have diff opinion but she was not evil. She was basically evil by separating KN by plotting with Ansh and all but later she was a nice person post all this kaand.

Some may claim she married Karan despite knowing he was in love with nandini and cheated on her best best friend...but Nandini was in coma. Doctors had suggested to remove life support from Nands stating she would never wake up - it was karan who wanted to keep nands alive on life support. Basically everyone thought nands would never return. Tanya was in love with karan and may be she took this as an opportunity to heal karan - so she jumped into marriage thinking she would make karan to move on...nothing wrong in her thinking or marrying even if it looked like she was an opportunist...she was not behind his wealth at that time coz it was shown that she herself had some business and after marrying karan she became housewife I dont know what happened to her business but however she genuinely loved Karan and Bhumi.

Then Nandini woke up from coma...she saw how crazy Karan was for nandini. Either she should have left him for good and avoided to meet him in secrecy. But Karan and tanya had kind of EMA when nands came back from coma. She remarried karan after gujraal kaand but Karan now said listen I will treat u just as a friend and will only love nands. She knew what she was stepping into this time. During her first marriage doctors mentioned nands wud never wake up from coma but this time nands was alive in jail. so basically tanya signed up for a nanny job...in reality which woman would do this blame is not only on tanya even karan for that matter. Though he gave cold shoulder to tanya ...why was he with tanya when he knew someday he would bring back Nands...(dont say nands gave kasam and all...nands asked him to move on but he didn't)...just imagine if gender role were reversed, will any man be with a wife who is in love with her first husband basically this is not reality however this is fiction.

I feel tanya knew she shud go away when nandini would come back, she even agreed to manofy nands but nands came up with fake husband then there was huge drama...however tanya didn't turn evil...she started turning evil when karan decided to stay with tanya and said lets start fresh...she had a hope but she misunderstood KN...mandira and tripti fueled her misunderstanding and she turned evil.

Tanya expecting Karan to love her is not wrong initially but when she saw his craziness for nandini how did she even expect him to love her. And when her expectations didn't meet , she didn't care. Even karan was disrespecting her every now and then without reciprocating to her love and by reminding her that she is not Bhumi's mother when she literally nursed bhumi from her childhood. She was in her own castle contempt with just having karan as hubby, bhumi manthan as her kids ignoring the obvious fact of Karan disrespecting her and not having any interest in loving her and she just lived her life in a delusion...but she got triggered when nandini came back. Though she didn't had any love from Karan she was contempt playing another woman or say wife to karan for 20 long yrs...and when she realized karan would go back to nandini when he found her ...tanya's dream castle shattered

However she loved bhumi as her own but somewhere even that love had a bit of selfishness embedded...she should have reveled truth abt her birth mother to bhumi but she didn't even karan is at fault. Karan wanted a happy life with Nands after she serves jail term but he didn't even think abt how his kids react. Atleast he shud have said truth to bhumi but he never cared. coming back to tanya she selfishly fueled bhumi stating nandini wud destroy her marriage life and what not...this is nothing but taking advantage, she even took advantage of her own son Manthan.

Though she was not outright evil...she did her blunders but she turned outright evil after tripti and mandira fueled her...we never know what happened to tanya ...she met with accident and she was taken away by someone...Kyunki1 ended abruptly, if it had continued - I am pretty sure Tanya would have come back to create havoc in KN marriage.

yeah lol i didnt mean alimony as her wanting wealth, she had her own bigass house. i meant she was demanding eveyrhting from karan just to make divorce hard but he was at a no fcks given point he gave everything to her. and agree about tanya marrying karan, she always loved him and felt she can heal him, be that centre of affection nandini was always for karan. she kept telling herslf if tomorrow nandini comes back she can leave happily but clearly she wasnt ready to give up. probably relieved N was gone. completely understandable. yes she did love bhoomi truly, shielded her bad habits. maybe some selfishness was there bt her love was pure as acknowledged by KN too many times. nandini often said tanya had more rights on bhoomi.

i think when nandini woke up tanya was in her self imposed ek meera shyam ko chaha role, she was hurting bt left SN, secretly supporting karan etc. and karan was in guilt and hyper which made nandini suspicious and everything came out. karan was at fault trying to keep two women together, he thought he was responsible for tanya how can he let her go etc.bt he had to chose at times but shit hit the fan,nandini chose for evrryone and left

i think karan for years pushed tanya to breaking point hoping now she will get some self respect and leave his ass to wallow in nandinis yaadein but tanya held on hoping karan will return, and for the kids, and the family. even though she had zero pull towards the fam-especially visible when tulsi calls nandini the ex bahu for the functions, everyone happy to see her etc. tanya was like glorified caretaker thats all

oh my god that aseem actor i was howling cause thats tanus bf in kumkum the fav scene of that karan running his car over him ad punching cause he thought aseem was having an affair. hayeee majnu karan he was like ok nandini stay happy with another guy.... but how dare u dude cheat on N?

agree with how tanya changed to vamp

karan neglected the kids. manthan wannabe murderer trying to kill N and bhoomi the two timer and badtameez. tanya didnt raise the kids well at all, shileding their mistake always taking their sides even when karan was right. bhoomis truth had to be revealed by karan with the iconic dialogue "jee karta hai tumhara gala ghot du aur khud ko maar du" after all the shit she said to N.tanya made faces of sadness but internally she was happy bhoomi was on her side.

regarding tanya- she did stay in her dream castle. until karan was with her physcially she didnt mind. it was when he was returning late at night, visibly drunk and lashing out she asked him kaha jate ho tum har raat and he replied nandini ko dhundne. thats when she started to panic that what if he actually found nandini and she decides to come back. she kept telling herself she would leave,but she had hopes karan will start loving her the way he does to nandini. very fascinating these 3 are, selfless selfish messy all at once. and its kudos to rakshanda she played tanya so well. i understand her vamp ways i sympathize bt i also love KN

Iss Noyna ko Pari ne kaat liya kar,

Itna lamba dialogue bole hi ja rhi hai.

Originally posted by: BangBang_Shilpa

Noyna mera ghar kabhi ni todegi, I trust her says Tulsi

this shobha is the previous actress. so good to see her

Originally posted by: Ajab.Pehchan

Anupamaa had the same andh vishwas on Kavya..

Mihir " tumne bilkul sahi kaha Noyna, yahi rahunga tumhare ghar"

Mujhe mere haal par chhod do main tumhare saath nhi a rha hu says Mihir to Tulsi

And shobha beta badon ki baat hai bade karenge

She's not a bachi lol

Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

she forgot mandira flashbacks someone bring her back

this shobha is the previous actress. so good to see her

Tulsi would have thought its been so many yrs...we have kids and grand kids...why will Noyona want to be in this mess which I am in she is single enjoying her life and she wouldn't want to take responsibility of such a huge family Tulsi is also living in delusion