Rajveer has no right to control Preeta? - Page 4

Originally posted by: foreverlazy

"Girls usually are not as brattish as boys" is a toxic and old-school mentality and to say they don't require their parents after a certain age is a ridiculous notion - every child needs their parent/parental figure no matter what age, whether they're sons or daughters.

Shaurya being easily manipulated is not Rajeev's responsibility, it was, as you said, Karan and the rest of the family's responsibility. They let Nidhi be his sole guardian and once they saw her upbringing had a negative impact on him it was too late. I'm not denying that Shaurya is a victim of Nidhi's terrible parenting and he has a lot of unresolved trauma, but that is not an excuse for his behaviour.

As for Preeta, speaking from a medical perspective, the last thing you want is for her to be near someone/something that is a trigger for her, and to Rajeev, that's the entire Luthra family. He has never kept Kavya away from Preeta, he has only hidden the truth from her because of her health. And also, it's like Nidhi herself said, the Luthras know that Preeta's alive, if they don't want to make an effort to figure out what's going on with her, then that's hardly Rajeev's problem.

I think i used wrong sentence

what i mean is girls mature faster than boys and do not get easily influenced by others

shaurya is still an immature man hes 25 but acting 14--16 year old brat like at home mostly hes not his age at all by nature with his tantrums and anger and insolent acts

even if nidhi instigate him against preeta or his family, if it was kavya a girl in his place they would not get so easily influenced by a step mom

also boys need a father for discipline or the go out of control not all but yes 50% times

mom they molly coddle sons and do not discipline them unlike a father

its only fathers discipline and fear that keeps boys in check mostly in real life too

very few boys or sons grow matured without a fathers watchful eye and act intelligent like rajveer

Usually in a patriarchal society boys have much more freedom and encouragement from society and family to do whatever they want even wrong things and yet not be punished. That is what shauray is, a by product of a patrichial system that gives much more freedom for boys than girls at home and in public.

When you are not held responsible for any of your wrong acts by family or teachers in young age than as adult you get men like shaurya. If only in childhood shaurya was disciplined by karan or his grandparents or thought values and manners he would not turn up so brat and entitled in life

World and movies may go gaga over mom/mother/ma etc but in reality a child behaviour/growth/psychology etc all depends on having a father and his behv towards his kids. A fathers absecnce how it can damage a kid or son can be shown in shaurya life.

https://www.pediatricsoffranklin.com/resources-and-education/pediatric-care/the-importance-of-a-father-in-a-childs-life/

Originally posted by: myviewprem

What karan family threw preeta out why? I thought nidhi must have tried to kill her so she lost memory and shristi took her away from delhi

Pls can you say why karan family threw preeta and rajveer away?

Now when they see preeta why sudden showing love to her as if they missed her?

I am confused why preeta only took preeta and not shauray and kavya along with her

Oh my god, it was so stupid, I still RAGE thinking about this! So basically, Karan and Preeta took the boys to get vaccinated and I guess the family was like no it's dangerous or something and they were like, yeah no they have to be vaccinated. And then that other girl who was obsessed with Karan played by Sonal Vengurlekar (Nidhi's sister I think? someone please correct me if I'm wrong) tried to kill Karan, Preeta and the twins by running them off the road (which is why they showed one scene of Karan getting PTSD while driving and then never again). Anyway, when Preeta woke up in the hospital, the whole family started yelling at her and blaming her for everything as if she hadn't just gone through a traumatic accident. Kareena Aunty refused to let Preeta near Shaurya and told her to go find Rudraksh (aka Rajveer) as if she hadn't just woken up from a freaking car accident. They couldn't find Rajveer because the crazy woman had taken from the accident site, which Preeta had gone back to, and wow would look at of course the kidnapper lady also has a gun and Preeta chases after her and then both she and baby Rajveer nearly fall off a cliff.

As for Shrishti, she really came through for her sister - sabko dus baate sunake, Sameer se rishta tod ke nikli meri jaan Preeta ko bachane, and thankfully she was there on time. Based on all of that, Shrishti's hatred towards the Luthras is absolutely valid to me, so that's why Rajveer's actions, for the most part, I can sympathize with because the Luthras are honestly very kind to him, but he still knows what they did to Preeta so his struggle between revenge and their behaviour clouding his judgment could be more interesting if the writers knew how to, well, write.

Oh and for the memory, I guess Preeta's brain's way of protecting her was to block any triggers like memories of the Luthras and her kids (Rajveer included). And okay, Karan knows about the memory loss now, but what about back then? He was in a coma, and I guess after he woke up he just accepted what his family said about Preeta leaving and never bothered to look for her or to find out the truth. Pathetic man.

Arre don't even get me started on the Luthra family hypocrisy, specifically Rakhi! Inko bhi lagta hai memory loss hua hai kyunki sab aise behave kar rahein as if they didn't insult Preeta and kick her out (not even out of their house, out of the hospital she was still admitted at, by the way).

Originally posted by: myviewprem

I think i used wrong sentence

what i mean is girls mature faster than boys and do not get easily influenced by others

shaurya is still an immature man hes 25 but acting 14--16 year old brat like at home mostly hes not his age at all by nature with his tantrums and anger and insolent acts

even if nidhi instigate him against preeta or his family, if it was kavya a girl in his place they would not get so easily influenced by a step mom

I have to disagree with the last bit because while I understand what you mean, I don't think this is girl/boy thing, but rather just the whims of the show's writers. Kavya was six years old, if Nidhi (or rather, the writers) really wanted, Kavya could've been just as easily manipulated as Shaurya. Shaurya was an infant when Preeta left, and the entire family kind of just let Nidhi do whatever, so their surprised Pikachu faces at him turning out the way he did is still so ridiculous to me. Like, he's clearly been like this for years, and no one wanted to step in when Shaurya was younger. My little fan theory is that Nidhi tried to maybe get Kavya on her side as well, but Kavya was too attached to Preeta to be manipulated so Nidhi just sent her way to have fewer obstacles when it came to raising Shaurya how she wanted.

also boys need a father for discipline or the go out of control not all but yes 50% times

mom they molly coddle sons and do not discipline them unlike a father

its only fathers discipline and fear that keeps boys in check mostly in real life too

very few boys or sons grow matured without a fathers watchful eye and act intelligent like rajveer

Usually in a patriarchal society boys have much more freedom and encouragement from society and family to do whatever they want even wrong things and yet not be punished. That is what shauray is, a by product of a patrichial system that gives much more freedom for boys than girls at home and in public.

When you are not held responsible for any of your wrong acts by family or teachers in young age than as adult you get men like shaurya. If only in childhood shaurya was disciplined by karan or his grandparents or thought values and manners he would not turn up so brat and entitled in life

World and movies may go gaga over mom/mother/ma etc but in reality a child behaviour/growth/psychology etc all depends on having a father and his behv towards his kids. A fathers absecnce how it can damage a kid or son can be shown in shaurya life.

I somewhat agree with this. I think not necessarily just a father, but a disciplinarian type of figure which I think is what Shrishti was to Rajveer, because Preeta definitely coddled Rajveer like she does sometimes with Shaurya (with the kind of stuff she's let Shaurya off the hook for, this man could literally commit murder and Preeta would not say anything). As you said, if not Karan then at least like, Rishab or Kareena or Shaurya's grandparents should've intervened sooner in his life. I feel like Kavya wasn't kept away from the family, she could've talked some sense into him. A lot of parents don't like discipline their younger kids because bhaiya aur didi kisliye hai? (speaking from experience )

https://www.pediatricsoffranklin.com/resources-and-education/pediatric-care/the-importance-of-a-father-in-a-childs-life/

Originally posted by: foreverlazy

Oh my god, it was so stupid, I still RAGE thinking about this! So basically, Karan and Preeta took the boys to get vaccinated and I guess the family was like no it's dangerous or something and they were like, yeah no they have to be vaccinated. And then that other girl who was obsessed with Karan played by Sonal Vengurlekar (Nidhi's sister I think? someone please correct me if I'm wrong) tried to kill Karan, Preeta and the twins by running them off the road (which is why they showed one scene of Karan getting PTSD while driving and then never again). Anyway, when Preeta woke up in the hospital, the whole family started yelling at her and blaming her for everything as if she hadn't just gone through a traumatic accident. Kareena Aunty refused to let Preeta near Shaurya and told her to go find Rudraksh (aka Rajveer) as if she hadn't just woken up from a freaking car accident. They couldn't find Rajveer because the crazy woman had taken from the accident site, which Preeta had gone back to, and wow would look at of course the kidnapper lady also has a gun and Preeta chases after her and then both she and baby Rajveer nearly fall off a cliff.

As for Shrishti, she really came through for her sister - sabko dus baate sunake, Sameer se rishta tod ke nikli meri jaan Preeta ko bachane, and thankfully she was there on time. Based on all of that, Shrishti's hatred towards the Luthras is absolutely valid to me, so that's why Rajveer's actions, for the most part, I can sympathize with because the Luthras are honestly very kind to him, but he still knows what they did to Preeta so his struggle between revenge and their behaviour clouding his judgment could be more interesting if the writers knew how to, well, write.

Oh and for the memory, I guess Preeta's brain's way of protecting her was to block any triggers like memories of the Luthras and her kids (Rajveer included). And okay, Karan knows about the memory loss now, but what about back then? He was in a coma, and I guess after he woke up he just accepted what his family said about Preeta leaving and never bothered to look for her or to find out the truth. Pathetic man.

Arre don't even get me started on the Luthra family hypocrisy, specifically Rakhi! Inko bhi lagta hai memory loss hua hai kyunki sab aise behave kar rahein as if they didn't insult Preeta and kick her out (not even out of their house, out of the hospital she was still admitted at, by the way).

thanks for update

i did not know all this story

how pathetic they blamed preeta for accident horrible

i wish rajveer takes over luthra empire and teaches them a lesson

why is luthra family than acting as if preeta was lost and saying our preeta our preeta as if they love her shameless ppl

Originally posted by: myviewprem

thanks for update

i did not know all this story

how pathetic they blamed preeta for accident horrible

i wish rajveer takes over luthra empire and teaches them a lesson

why is luthra family than acting as if preeta was lost and saying our preeta our preeta as if they love her shameless ppl

@bold: That's Rajveer's whole plan - get revenge on the Luthras.

I honestly think the family's behaviour is just bad writing, but it's so irritating like, you did this to her, if anything you should be fighting harder to understand what's going on with her.

Originally posted by: myviewprem

thanks for update

i did not know all this story

how pathetic they blamed preeta for accident horrible

i wish rajveer takes over luthra empire and teaches them a lesson

why is luthra family than acting as if preeta was lost and saying our preeta our preeta as if they love her shameless ppl

The Luthra family are too sweet and sanskari to be believable. They have always been hypocrites when it comes to Shaurya's case also. Totally unrealiable. Showering affection at one moment and then withholding love and support when the other person fails the standards or disappoints them even slightly. Rajveer would fit in perfectly with this hypocritical family with his own style of personal hypocrisy.

Originally posted by: foreverlazy

Oh my god, it was so stupid, I still RAGE thinking about this! So basically, Karan and Preeta took the boys to get vaccinated and I guess the family was like no it's dangerous or something and they were like, yeah no they have to be vaccinated. And then that other girl who was obsessed with Karan played by Sonal Vengurlekar (Nidhi's sister I think? someone please correct me if I'm wrong) tried to kill Karan, Preeta and the twins by running them off the road (which is why they showed one scene of Karan getting PTSD while driving and then never again). Anyway, when Preeta woke up in the hospital, the whole family started yelling at her and blaming her for everything as if she hadn't just gone through a traumatic accident. Kareena Aunty refused to let Preeta near Shaurya and told her to go find Rudraksh (aka Rajveer) as if she hadn't just woken up from a freaking car accident. They couldn't find Rajveer because the crazy woman had taken from the accident site, which Preeta had gone back to, and wow would look at of course the kidnapper lady also has a gun and Preeta chases after her and then both she and baby Rajveer nearly fall off a cliff.

As for Shrishti, she really came through for her sister - sabko dus baate sunake, Sameer se rishta tod ke nikli meri jaan Preeta ko bachane, and thankfully she was there on time. Based on all of that, Shrishti's hatred towards the Luthras is absolutely valid to me, so that's why Rajveer's actions, for the most part, I can sympathize with because the Luthras are honestly very kind to him, but he still knows what they did to Preeta so his struggle between revenge and their behaviour clouding his judgment could be more interesting if the writers knew how to, well, write.

Oh and for the memory, I guess Preeta's brain's way of protecting her was to block any triggers like memories of the Luthras and her kids (Rajveer included). And okay, Karan knows about the memory loss now, but what about back then? He was in a coma, and I guess after he woke up he just accepted what his family said about Preeta leaving and never bothered to look for her or to find out the truth. Pathetic man.

Arre don't even get me started on the Luthra family hypocrisy, specifically Rakhi! Inko bhi lagta hai memory loss hua hai kyunki sab aise behave kar rahein as if they didn't insult Preeta and kick her out (not even out of their house, out of the hospital she was still admitted at, by the way).

Exactly Luthras are behaving like saints and now Rajveer was getting bashed for not allowing her to meet Luthras ...Luthras was really horrible inlaws and Karan was a full red carpet ...Before and after leap.At the time of Dheeraj,Shakthi also....And I felt at the time of ArjunI felt really disgusted about Karan that he thought Preeta and Rishab cheated on him.... I think after 20 year leap Karan was showing as little sane person....

Originally posted by: foreverlazy

Oh my god, it was so stupid, I still RAGE thinking about this! So basically, Karan and Preeta took the boys to get vaccinated and I guess the family was like no it's dangerous or something and they were like, yeah no they have to be vaccinated. And then that other girl who was obsessed with Karan played by Sonal Vengurlekar (Nidhi's sister I think? someone please correct me if I'm wrong) tried to kill Karan, Preeta and the twins by running them off the road (which is why they showed one scene of Karan getting PTSD while driving and then never again). Anyway, when Preeta woke up in the hospital, the whole family started yelling at her and blaming her for everything as if she hadn't just gone through a traumatic accident. Kareena Aunty refused to let Preeta near Shaurya and told her to go find Rudraksh (aka Rajveer) as if she hadn't just woken up from a freaking car accident. They couldn't find Rajveer because the crazy woman had taken from the accident site, which Preeta had gone back to, and wow would look at of course the kidnapper lady also has a gun and Preeta chases after her and then both she and baby Rajveer nearly fall off a cliff.

As for Shrishti, she really came through for her sister - sabko dus baate sunake, Sameer se rishta tod ke nikli meri jaan Preeta ko bachane, and thankfully she was there on time. Based on all of that, Shrishti's hatred towards the Luthras is absolutely valid to me, so that's why Rajveer's actions, for the most part, I can sympathize with because the Luthras are honestly very kind to him, but he still knows what they did to Preeta so his struggle between revenge and their behaviour clouding his judgment could be more interesting if the writers knew how to, well, write.

Oh and for the memory, I guess Preeta's brain's way of protecting her was to block any triggers like memories of the Luthras and her kids (Rajveer included). And okay, Karan knows about the memory loss now, but what about back then? He was in a coma, and I guess after he woke up he just accepted what his family said about Preeta leaving and never bothered to look for her or to find out the truth. Pathetic man.

Arre don't even get me started on the Luthra family hypocrisy, specifically Rakhi! Inko bhi lagta hai memory loss hua hai kyunki sab aise behave kar rahein as if they didn't insult Preeta and kick her out (not even out of their house, out of the hospital she was still admitted at, by the way).

Luthras slowly starting to show their true colours.... Kareena bua start to blame Preeta again...And Rajveer ko yaad aaya why he came to Mumbai...

Slowly I felt everyone will again turn against Preeta and Rajveer.In between if Shaurya will tell he want to marry Palki and Rajveer palki marriage also becomes dramatic....

But I felt Palki had the right to know about truth from Rajveer itself...I don't want any misunderstanding between them...They are like a fresh breath in between these forced marriage trope....

Makers really needs to come out of previous generation lovestory becoz it was already in a saturated point that viewers are not interested...And they should concentrate on this generation...And Rajveer was well written at early episode...in between they lost that depth now they should focus on Rajveer and Palki relationship....

Originally posted by: Vismaya03

Luthras slowly starting to show their true colours.... Kareena bua start to blame Preeta again...And Rajveer ko yaad aaya why he came to Mumbai...

Slowly I felt everyone will again turn against Preeta and Rajveer.In between if Shaurya will tell he want to marry Palki and Rajveer palki marriage also becomes dramatic....

But I felt Palki had the right to know about truth from Rajveer itself...I don't want any misunderstanding between them...They are like a fresh breath in between these forced marriage trope....

Makers really needs to come out of previous generation lovestory becoz it was already in a saturated point that viewers are not interested...And they should concentrate on this generation...And Rajveer was well written at early episode...in between they lost that depth now they should focus on Rajveer and Palki relationship....

Yeah, and honestly thank god because how can you forget the main plot point of this leap like be so for real right now.

I really want good things for PalkixRajveer (the healthiest couple I've seen in a very long time) and I'm only like 80% sure about their endgame because I don't think either one of these actors would be paired with a less-known actor, it's just not realistic.

They need to let go of PreetaxKaran because a lot of people were mainly drawn to this couple due to Dheeraj and Shraddha's chemistry and that aspect of the ship is long gone. Paras and Sana are easily the most talented (and experienced) of the new cast, I really wish they would get more focus!

Rajveer-Palki relationship might be healthy. But they are the one of the most snoozeworthy couples on itv. So perfect, so mahaan and so boring. Of course the makers are trying to cash in on Karan-Preetha chemistry to raise the trp and keep at least the old viewers satisfied. They certainly haven't succeeded in wooing new viewers. Shaurya-Palki at least had sizzling chemistry. But that ship seems to have been abandoned.

Originally posted by: foreverlazy

Yeah, and honestly thank god because how can you forget the main plot point of this leap like be so for real right now.

I really want good things for PalkixRajveer (the healthiest couple I've seen in a very long time) and I'm only like 80% sure about their endgame because I don't think either one of these actors would be paired with a less-known actor, it's just not realistic.

They need to let go of PreetaxKaran because a lot of people were mainly drawn to this couple due to Dheeraj and Shraddha's chemistry and that aspect of the ship is long gone.