DEVASTATING END!-Mods Note pg4

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Posted: 17 years ago
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I'M UPSET TO SAY IT, BUT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THIS FORUM IS THAT SU-KK LOVER'S R SO BLIND IN LOVE THAT THEY BACK UP NOT ONLY THE MISTAKES BUT ALSO THE BIG BLUNDERS IN THE SERIAL. SOMETIMES IT MAKES ME THINK TO A HIGHER PROBABILITY THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS FORUM,IS TO JUST SUPPORT SUMIT AND KK FOR PUBLICITY OR RATINGS IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY, WAT SO EVER.😡 . TO SUPPORT IS NOT WRONG.BUT TO SUPPORT THE BLUNDER IS A BIG MISTAKE.AND THIS BLUNDER WILL HARM OUR SOCIETY IF SUPPORTED.

The kk's death episode was BIG DISASTER of all times in the su-kk serial. DEFINATELY every1 will cry who were emotionally attached with su-kk for so many yrs. the creatives showed romance to an extreme to make sure that every1 cry and make them emotional.THE BACKGROUND AND ROMANCE AND THEN SEPERATING AWAY, HAD THE INFLUENCE. BUT IT DOESNT MEAN THERE WAS NO MISTAKE....

1st of all, SUICIDE. it is not acceptable wat so ever. sumit and kk tought their children the following principles :

1)WHEN A TIME COME'S WHEN U HAVE TO DECIDE BETWEEN LOVE AND RESPONSIBILITY, U SHOULD CHOOSE RESPONSIBILITY OVER LOVE.

2)IF FOR UR FAMILY'S SAKE U HAVE TO CROSS ANY LIMITS, DO SO AND FULFILL UR OBLIGATIONS FOR THE SAKE OF UR PAREVAR.

3)IF A TIME COMES WHEN ON ONE END IS UR PAREVAR'S HAPPINESS AND ON OTHER IS UR PERSONAL HAPPINESS, THEN CHOOSE UR PAREVAR'S HAPPINESS.

THE ABOVE PRINCIPLES R THE CORE VALUES FOR THIS SERIAL AND THEY HAVE DESTROYED AND SHATTERED THEIR OWN MADE CORE BELIEFS AND VALUES.

BASED ON ABOVE 3 PRINCIPLES, KK PROVOKED DRUV TO REMAIN WITH ANTRA AND GIVE PRIORITY TO HIS CHILD RATHER THAN SIYA. BY MAKING HIM REALIZE TO GIVE PRIORITY TO RESPONSIBILITY OVER LOVE. NOT ONLY THAT BUT KK ALSO TOUGHT THE SAME LESSON TO SHARMAN,AND SHARMAN SACRIFISED NETI AND HIS LOVE FOR SAKE OF FAMILY'S HAPPINESS OR TO MAINTAIN IZZAT. AND SUMIT FINALLY SUPPORTED KK IN THE END.

so when it came sumit's turn he BACKED OFF NOT ONLY FROM HIS OWN PRINCIPLES BUT PRINCIPLES OF KK AS WELL!!!. HOW CAN HE BE SO SELFISH AND ONLY THINK ABT HIS OWN LIFE ONLY. in every su-kk episode, "PAREWAR KE LEAY"," PAREVAR KI KHUSHI KE LEAY" ...bla bla...

and when the time comes he didnt even thought for 1 second ABT FAMILY,ABT HIS CHILDREN. and kk, she should have given HER PROMISE to sumit(NOT TO COMMIT SUICIDE) so he wouldnt have COMMITED SUICIDE.if kk can speak for 10 min after taking the bullet, then she can also give sumit PROMISE NOT TO SUICIDE(ANOTHER MISTAKE ON KK'S END).

The people who commit suicide ARE COWARDS.I'M SORRY BUT IN THE END SUMIT PROVED A COWARD,WITH NO SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY OR LOVE FOR HIS FAMILY,WHO RAISED HIM,BROUGHT HIM UP AND MADE HIM UP TO BE THE PERSON HE WAS. I NEVER THOUGHT KK'S END WOULD BE IN SUCH A LOOSING WAY.

IF LOVE IS EVERYTHING FOR SUMIT AND KK, AND FAMILY IS NOTHING, THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE MADE POSSIBLE MARRIAGE OF DRUV WITH SIYA AND SHARMAN WITH NETI. and NOT THOUGHT ABT ANTRA NOR DRUV'S SON.AS FAMILY COMES LATER THAN LOVE.😡 UR PERSONALITY IS UR ACTIONS NOT WAT U SAY. SO I BELIEVE THAT KK AND SUMIT TEACHINGS WERE MERELY DIALOGUES WITH NO MEANING.

if still any of the member in the forum supports SUICIDE, then i may think that he/she is lying FOR THE SAKE OF SUPPORTING KK SERIAL. becoz in reality if something happens to ur love, or ur parents, WUD U COMMIT SUICIDE. OR HOW WOULD U FEEL IF UR SISTER, UR BROTHER, UR FATHER OR UR MOTHER, COMMITS SUICDE(FOR SAKE OF ONLY 1 PERSON THEY LOVE) AND LEAVES U ALONE!!!!!.ANSWER THE QUESTION? I HOPE NOTHING BAD HAPPENS, BUT WAT IS A BLUNDER IS A BLUNDER AND SHOULD BE DISCOURAGED NOT ENCOURAGED.

THE PERSON WHO COMMITS SUICIDE SLEEPS BUT HE CREATES HELL FOR EVERY1 ELSE HE LEAVES BEHIND AND WHO TRULY LOVE HIM/HER.

IF SOME1 IS EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO HIS PARENTS AND HIS PARENTS DIE....HE COMMITS SUICIDE....(IS IT RIGHT?). AND DONT BACK UP SUMIT SAYING HE WAS 50 IN SERIAL AND HAD FULFILLED HIS RESPONSIBILITY. BECOZ FAMILY NEEDS HIM IN EVERY WAY, WAT SO EVER. EVEN IF LIFE WITHOUT KK IS HELL HE SHOULD HAVE LIVED IT, THINKING ABT KK AND FEELING HER IN HIS IMAGINATIONS. AND HE KNEW THAT IN NEXT LIFE HE WOULD GET HER. STILL.............(TOO DEVASTATING)

2nd major error....KK IS THE NAME OF SERIAL YET WHEN SHE DIES AS WELL AS SUMIT, THERE WERE NO FEELING IN THE WADWA PAREVAR'S FACE (EXCEPT NETI). IF U DONT BELIEVE ME JUST WATCH AGAIN WAT HAPPENS IN END. I DONT CARE WAT THEY WILL SHOW IN NEXT EPISODE.....BUT EVEN IF THE FAMILY IS IN SHOCK(1ST IMPRESSION IS THE LAST IMPRESSION)....HOW CAN THEY STAND THERE FEELING LESS AND QUIET LIKE THEY R IN THE CINEMA!!!. FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE...THEIR SON AND KK IS DEAD.HOW CAN THEY BE SUCH FEELING LESS AND PLAIN, LIKE STANDING IN A SCHOOL ASSEMBLY. EVEN SHARMAN WAS LOOKING NORMAL😡 . ONLY NETI ACTED BRILLIANTLY AND I SAW FEELINGS IN HER FACIAL EXPRESSIONS.I'M NOT SAYING THAT WAT SHE DID WAS ENOUGH .....BUT NETI WAS ATLEAST BETTER THAN THE OTHER'S. THEY SHOULD HAVE SHOUTED,CRIED ALOUD,SCREAMED AND FAINTED (EVEN IN SHOCK) .

CREATIVES DID GOOD JOB IN ROMANCE SEEN,NO DOUBT ABT IT, BUT THE END SCENE,if it is CREATIVES FAULT, THEN I'M UPSET AND SORRY TO SAY THAT WITH THIS 1 EPISODE CREATIVES DESTROYED THEIR WHOLE IMAGE AND REPUTATION.HOW CAN THEY MAKE SUCH A BLUNDER!. 1ST THE SUICIDE AND THEN FEELING LESS FAMILY.

and wat SURPRISED ME MOST,IS THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE R QUIET AND DIDNT REALIZE THE BIG BLUNDER IN KK. AND THE OTHER'S R JUST SUPPORTING. IS THIS FORUM A FAKE...JUST SAYING HATS OFF, OR BRAVO, NO MATTER WAT SO EVER. REMEMBER IF WE SUPPORT SUICIDE FOR SAKE OF LOVER, THEN TOMORROW IN OUR SOCIETY IT WILL BE COMMON AND PEOPLE WILL BE COMMITING SUICIDES(FOR SAKE OF LOVE) AND MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THEIR FAMILIES.SO PLZ PLZ PLZ STOP THIS FIRE FROM SPREADING.

CMON GUYS AND GIRLS...SPEAK UP AND PROTEST AGAINST THIS IMMATURITY AND UNREALISTIC END.

atleast we all have to STAND UP AGAINST SUICIDE, which is a BIGGEST SOCIAL PROBLEM OF ALL TIMES. IT SHOULD BE DISCOURAGED RATHER ENCOURAGED.SAVE THE WORLD AND TOMORROWS GENERATION IN GOING IN WRONG DIRECTION.CMON EVERYBODY, SPEAK UP WAT U FEEL AND IF U HAVE GUTS TO SAY, WAT IS RIGHT !

Note:Please donot use Caps...Its considered as shouting

Edited by anku2cute - 17 years ago

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Posted: 17 years ago
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You are absulutely right. Now they shown that their teaching to their kids were all fake.. I reallt agree with your 3 principls very good points.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i do not agree
firstly yes fmaily is important but for su his family was from kk
if his children were samll then he had to stay for them but his children r big enough to live themselves
if he had lived for them good but then would he be abel to he would keep crying and live fo rothers tht is also not right
he loved kk alot to live without her
his love was dieing in front of them how will he keep thinking all this abt reponsibilities at tht time
it is not easy to see ur love dieing
she was his love his wife his childrens mother
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i hv lot to say for this topic...
bt i think i will just say now that NO I DO NOT AGREE WID WAT U SAID!! 😕u may be rite on ur syd bt dont forget its just a serial...n sukk will do watever they r suppose to do!! 😊 i mean acc to the creatives..
somehow the story was to be brought for reincarnation so kk dies and su commits suicide.. 😭 from my point of view this ws a very emotional scene..and cumon wen ur love is abt to die who cares for the principles 😕
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i totally agree with everything u sed, but wen sumit was committing suicide he wasnt thinking of ne1 else but kk as she was dying in front of him so it was ll he cud think abt,

i totally agree with u abt the familys reaction it wasnt gud.

nevertheless i dnt agree abt the committing suicide its wrong but in the films, it happens a lot but it doesnt mean ppl copy n go o8 n commit suicide does it?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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syed shariq same thoughts here too.

Sumit's breath should have gone with Kumkum's breath naturally instead of Suicide so their thought that one cant live without the other and God too had to do it like that would have been perfect adieu to both Sumit and Kumkum
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Posted: 17 years ago
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THINK PRACTICALLY if it is right,that a father has fulfilled his responsibilities, should DIE when HIS WIFE(HIS LOVE) dies for any reason. THIS IS DISGUISTING 😡. some1 will loose father,someone will loose son,someone will loose mother,someone will loose sister.those people who support sumit's decision, I'M SURE, THEY WILL NOT COMMIT SUICIDE IF GOD FORBID SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ANYONE THEY LOVE. and media has influence over our behaviour. girls looking at kk, dream to potray that ideal bahu,beti,maa, concept in their marriage life and believe it or not they learn from influences of media and become better wives,lovers,sisters and maa. so it is important that the media should potray right behaviour and attitude. in uk,crime rates increased among children and when interviewed and research they found out that it was becoz of voilent games. similarly, kk is a serial,but it has influence. it is our duty to go against SUICIDE.at every age. if sumit would have lived for his family then kk's soul would have REST IN PEACE.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i dont think there is anything bad in tht
he loved her so much
and tht time he didnt think anything he just saw his wife his love dieing in front of him
wht couls he do he knew he cannot live without her and tht moment he thought abt them wht is bad in tht
there is nothing wrong it in
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Posted: 17 years ago
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well syed shariq c first of all. its just a serial..so u dnt need to take it so much to hr8..its always shown b4 each epi starts characters n scenes r all fictitious.

c ppl here do favor,encourage n criticise SU as well as KK, wenevr they do anytin wrong..il gv u an example..wen KK had brot Antara home,SU was agnst her,so ppl did nd up creating topics mentioning SU to accept KK's decsion and sayin v want our old Sumit bak..
ter also many suportd Su as well as KK. 😊

c wat u said bout promises is abso correct..But above all that Sumit had promised KK and KK too has promised KK wil doin d pheras(not only on 29th ka epi ,bt earlier too) that they will always b togetr b it life or death... 😊 n that's d promises that one shud keep..c it wont happen in real life..but in soaps u gotta ssume some things... 😊 dear as Su said to KK that witout her life is death n wit her death is life.. c if Su lives aftr KK's death wit d family he will b more a zinda lash(an alive dead body) rather than our old Sumit Wadhwa.. which will b more pain 4 entire family-his kids,parents n grandparents..They wil have to c ter kid or Dad(for Su's kids) acting as one pagal in frnt of tem witout KK.. so y not better die... 😊 He wudnt b same Sumit aftr KK's death,so its better n gud that he killed himself.

in TV ter r many gud things n bad things..one shud know to learn the gud things n leave bad,somtin which dosnt suit them behind n not evn care bout it..

KK did say b4 love ,ur kartavya towards family comes first but she sd to shr b4 marriage..but wat Su promised KK is durin d marriage that watevr b it life or death he wil b wit her.

n bout family's reaction on seeing SUKK dead..Neeti did well i agree..all we shocked...c it carefully..Veena had her own expressions.(she hd brought her i guess right hand forward nearer to her face,indirectly telin us as shes thinking o my go ,tis shudnt have hapnd), shr was breathing very hard..(see it carefully), Siya had tears in her eyes..otrs.as in Kul,Dada-Dadi wer so shocked that they wer stunt n so stud as if tey had no emotions or pain..it hapens sometimes wen u go expressionless,more so wen u c ur loved ones have left u forever.. 😊

well all n evrytn on tis earth cant b perfect!! u have to let go off many things.. 😊

its not d case ki ul only suport ur fav jodis in watevr tey do...wen things havnt went d way fans like,india forums had always mentioned it n wen d actors or producers r let known of ter fans need,creative heads have wrkd it in a beter way to make ter fans happy..

plz b patient 2 read wat otrs say...n dear TV is just a part of life,its not Life itself..so jst let go things off..im sure ul b more easy...

yup i do support sumit in his decsion of killing himself aftr kk was shot n he knew she wil b no more.

sry if i hurt u ,dint mean anytin, my intention was jst to explain u my views. 😊
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Posted: 17 years ago
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1st of all nands thankyou for making an effort to xpress ur views. 👏. abt expressions after death i believe that creatives or who ever is responsible has not done justice.i know they have shown xpressions,i'm not denying that but kk and sumit are main theme of serial.getting ppl's love and ppl emotionally attached by watching serial for yrs.i expected much greater emotions at 1st instance in death of kk and sumit, then wat i saw.they did same feelingless death of antra(only shock) but here,they did BAD JOB

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ur right that watching soap is just an entertainment and should be just for lighting up ur day. and dont worry i'm not dissapointed in u,atleast u had the guts to stand up and say wat u feel.
only diff is my point of view is different than urs. i believe that in REAL LIFE, PPL WILL START DOING IT.becoz media has influence(both +ve and -ve),towards our personality and if some1 is our favourite and ideal then we copy their behaviour and beliefs and bring them into our personality.for this reason i dont want ppl to commit suicide in REAL LIFE.EVEN IF THEY THINK THAT THEIR LIFE IS GOING TO BE HELL.
wat u say is true,as per serial, but wat i say i TRUE IN REAL LIFE.
and reality of life is that no matter how much we love some1,after their death,we r in pain but with passage of time we move ahead in our lives.even though we remember our past spend with them and each and every loving moment. hence we pray after death of our lovers and beloved ones.we remember them. but we do everything in life.we work,we party,we enjoy. and that is reality.
time is cruel and with time everything gets back to normal.we still remember and cry but intensity of pain decreases with time.
how many mothers have lost their children, how many ppl have lost their parents. did they commit SUICIDE. if not,does that mean they dont love their children or parents enough!!! not at all.
u c media has influence. yrs ago there were no (or rare) kissing scenes on television screen,now there r,so we can see them in society as well. crossing limits be4 marriage was not tolerated at all, now it is still tolerated to some extent(becoz of media).so media is moving us in wrong direction.and after 10 yrs, i'm afraid,that media is going to xpose all body parts and change beliefs of our next generation(they would think, no harm and would watch such scences in front of family!).wat is unacceptable today would be acceptable tomorrow becoz of media.it's not fun, it is abt values and beliefs.we should encourage only the +ve and discourage the -ve values which is harmful to society.it is human psychology that we copy our ideals(even sometimes we dont know we're copying them but we do to some extent).
ok, to cut short, i'm just afraid that if we accept today wat sumit did was right and no harm,then i'm afraid fans of su-kk and other ppl who idealize sumit and kk, will some how, some where, in some part of the world, would also commit suicide, when some1 they love die.(EVEN IF NOT EVERY ONE THEN MAYBE 1 IN 1000).
I JUST DONT WANT THAT AND THAT IS MY MESSAGE.

Edited by syed shariq - 17 years ago

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