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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -mina-

Yes this scene left me stunned!! To be quite honest, by serial standards for a heroine, this is a selfish speech. She is not taking responsibility for every ill in the world. She is not pursuing a hopeless fight out of pure principle. She is not blaming herself for being cursed or incapable or not trying hard enough. She is insisting on her humanity, on her right to frustration, fatigue, anger and disillusionment. She is speaking of her losses and sacrifices. She is describing a future vision of herself as healing and moving on alone. In some dictionaries this kind of protest and self-justification would be called self-respect.

So for me, this scene was amazing. It demonstrates one of the ways in which Kumkum Bhagya is unique and fresh. I have argued with friends before who claim that Pragya is not a feminist example because of the compromises she has made in her life in the past. Rare scenes like this show that she, and the writers and creative team behind her, actually are feminist at the core. A rare thing to see in a serial and I absolutely admire and adore it!


YESSS MINZZZ!!! I'm sooo freakin' glad Pragz is shown to be human at times. She literally said everythinggg we're always writing about her!! I felt like they creeped into Sriti AT for this monologue 😆 But yes yes yes everything about this scene was pure BLISS!!! I was literally gaping, jaws-dropped especially when she brought up Tabhi from revenge marriage and how she said "He loves me he wants to marry me but says he can't" in the most frustrated-angry voice!!

I'm equating this anger to Angry Abhi at Lonavla!! He was giving up on them at that time. She's giving up on them now!!


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nainz, thank you for making an effort and doing this.🤗 When I am reading this, I am actually getting thrilled.. like wow Pragz said this today...I wanted this.. I wanted Pragya to give up for some time. And this is so good. To see her speaking out that she very well know the sacrifices she has given and the amount of energy she gave to all the wishes of daadi just because that woman does not trust her grand son. Lol Nainz, the thing which really makes me sad is even after all the struggles and sangharshs, there are still questions on what Pragya has done to remove Tanu from Abhi's life? Isn't it clear that Pragya prioritize Abhi more than all the plannings abd plottings? Somewhere in this ML track journey Pragya thought that may be if Abhi will realize his love he himself will accept her because he wasn't that serious about Tanu and her dying mother.
And dadi, the way she entered AH, main apni bahu ko lene ayi hun! Daadi your lack of trust in Abhi and you wanting a simple human like Pragya to solve all the problems in your pota's life, is making Pragya suffer like this today. Pragya clearly told dadi after her accident that she will tell everything about Tanu to Abhi and Abhi will do what he feels is right. That time also Pragya was told the same dialogues by dadi. And today also she came back to do the same thing. And that is why I am glad Pragya showed her the mirror and how much she has lost.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mitushi_MP

Nainz, thank you for making an effort and doing this.🤗 When I am reading this, I am actually getting thrilled.. like wow Pragz said this today...I wanted this.. I wanted Pragya to give up for some time. And this is so good. To see her speaking out that she very well know the sacrifices she has given and the amount of energy she gave to all the wishes of daadi just because that woman does not trust her grand son. Lol Nainz, the thing which really makes me sad is even after all the struggles and sangharshs, there are still questions on what Pragya has done to remove Tanu from Abhi's life? Isn't it clear that Pragya prioritize Abhi more than all the plannings abd plottings? Somewhere in this ML track journey Pragya thought that may be if Abhi will realize his love he himself will accept her because he wasn't that serious about Tanu and her dying mother.


Bold-Mitssuuu, in LM track, her priority was taking out Taaliyah from his life over him, and she was "criticized." Now she kept him a priority over them and she's still "criticized" 😆 lolol whatevvvss.

Daadi has been the biggest obstacle in Abhigya's life. Every arranged marriage starts out with awkwardness. With differences in opinion. With different outlooks on life. And this marriage was a little more extraordinary since it was planned out to be a revenge marriage, which the girl had no clue about. As a parent, Daadi did nothing to bring them closer together ever since Kidnapping Track ended. She's been the creator all misunderstandings between them. :(

Hearing her being told she has been a horrible support system by Pragz was a whifff of fresh air!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Naina-


Bold-Mitssuuu, in LM track, her priority was taking out Taaliyah from his life over him, and she was "criticized." Now she kept him a priority over them and she's still "criticized" 😆 lolol whatevvvss.

Daadi has been the biggest obstacle in Abhigya's life. Every arranged marriage starts out with awkwardness. With differences in opinion. With different outlooks on life. And this marriage was a little more extraordinary since it was planned out to be a revenge marriage, which the girl had no clue about. As a parent, Daadi did nothing to bring them closer together ever since Kidnapping Track ended. She's been the creator all misunderstandings between them. :(

Hearing her being told she has been a horrible support system by Pragz was a whifff of fresh air!!

See, this is the problem na. When you hate someone you try finding only the bad things in him or her. Poor Pragz has so many haters who keenly observe only her in the whole episode just to point out
that one mistake and make a molehill out of it..😆
But the good thing is we actually got to see a Pragya we wanted, can you believe that? A silent Pragya agreeing to dadi was so annoying tbh. But really glad she opened her heart out. And you know when the questions come about exposing Tanu, I would say "Pragya ne kisi ka bhi theka nahi le rakha hai, Pragya ke sath aur bhi log hain jise Tanu ki sacchai pata hai, Abhi Pragya ko dahej main nahi mila hai!! " Tanu kaisi hai ye to Abhi ko bhi pata hi tha, selfish, having superiority complex, wants him for his money! Lol these reasons were not enough!! Pragya crying today, is because she trusts others more than herself, fir chahe vo Abhi ho ya dadi. I am not going to blame anyone else for it. Similarly, Abhi is also crying because of his ignorant behavior and him not trying to solve the problems of his life on his own.
Nainz, sorry if I stretched it so much.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mitushi_MP

See, this is the problem na. When you hate someone you try finding only the bad things in him or her. Poor Pragz has so many haters who keenly observe only her in the whole episode just to point out
that one mistake and make a molehill out of it..😆

But the good thing is we actually got to see a Pragya we wanted, can you believe that? A silent Pragya agreeing to dadi was so annoying tbh. But really glad she opened her heart out. And you know when the questions come about exposing Tanu, I would say "Pragya ne kisi ka bhi theka nahi le rakha hai, Pragya ke sath aur bhi log hain jise Tanu ki sacchai pata hai, Abhi Pragya ko dahej main nahi mila hai!! " Tanu kaisi hai ye to Abhi ko bhi pata hi tha, selfish, having superiority complex, wants him for his money! Lol these reasons were not enough!! Pragya crying today, is because she trusts others more than herself, fir chahe vo Abhi ho ya dadi. I am not going to blame anyone else for it. Similarly, Abhi is also crying because of his ignorant behavior and him not trying to solve the problems of his life on his own.
Nainz, sorry if I stretched it so much.


WORDDD Mits. Couldn't have said it better myself. 👏 Either way, I said this to Harshu too. Pragz totally answered and shot back at all her critics yesterday. Loveddd her speech from start to end! She's human, but I guess people like Daadi often forget.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Good morning girls !!!!! Have a moment, so I just wanted to say this.
I am in a state of shock after watching Pragya. Just brilliant. Thank you writers and directors for giving us this Pragya who completely spoke her mind out ( my mind too ) and unloaded on that annoying daadi. That daadi and her expressions annoyed me yesterday. She should really thank her stars that she is not my daad😈i. The lines she had were infuriating.

But PRAGYA WAS BRILLIANT. SRITI WAS PHENOMENAL. SHE LOOKED AWESOME. EXPRESSIONS BEYOND WONDERFUL👏🤗. The lines you highlighted, " he is searching for his happiness in somebody else" and " he told me he loves me, wants to marry be, but will not", those went straight to the gut, heart and brain all at once and eyes smarted and teared up😭😭😭. She really made us feel her pain. I am so glad she told everything I have bottled up inside me about her life👏. She is completely beat, exhausted, hurt beyond anybody's imagination🤗.

I agree Pragya has nothing more to do or say in this situation. The guy she is fighting for REJECTED her for a flimsy reason. I also cried the other day when she said " mein koi nahin hun kya, aise koi karta hain kya, galat hain na maa" when she tells her maa what Abhi said to her. That went straight to the heart too with an arrow💔 I am sorry, I agree just like you, Nainu and Mitu, it is not her responsibility to take the 🤬 out of his life. With what right can she do that? Mitu, I love how you worded it 🤣 especially the dahej wala lines👍🏼

Because with this stupid naya usooli Abhi, there is simply no recourse for her. Any argument or proof can be turned down with him being usooli😡 Even if he is told he is married or proof of chudail mom's non existent illness, the fact still remains that he had given his " vaada" to a witch. This is a foolish situation much like " bhasmasura and Lord Shiva".

I am so glad that this is the first time, Pragya is expressing her sadness, her struggle, her imtihaan since the beginning of time. And for the VERY FIRST time, Abhi is also acknowledging that he has hurt Pragya and is concerned for her⭐️👏👍🏼. Do you guys remember any other instances where he felt bad for her, except may be a few moments during Lonavala?

I want Pragya not to try to comfort him, console him or do anything more. This time, I want Abhi himself to realize that his heart and the love of his life takes precedence over EVERYTHING else and decide what to do FYI, I hated that blank phone call too.

OK guys, have a good weekend.
Edited by mili9 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mili9

Good morning girls !!!!! Have a moment, so I just wanted to say this.

I am in a state of shock after watching Pragya. Just brilliant. Thank you writers and directors for giving us this Pragya who completely spoke her mind out ( my mind too ) and unloaded on that annoying daadi. That daadi and her expressions annoyed me yesterday. She should really thank her stars that she is not my daad😈i. The lines she had were infuriating.

But PRAGYA WAS BRILLIANT. SRITI WAS PHENOMENAL. SHE LOOKED AWESOME. EXPRESSIONS BEYOND WONDERFUL👏🤗. The lines you highlighted, " he is searching for his happiness in somebody else" and " he told me he loves me, wants to marry be, but will not", those went straight to the gut, heart and brain all at once and eyes smarted and teared up😭😭😭. She really made us feel her pain. I am so glad she told everything I have bottled up inside me about her life👏. She is completely beat, exhausted, hurt beyond anybody's imagination🤗.

I agree Pragya has nothing more to do or say in this situation. The guy she is fighting for REJECTED her for a flimsy reason. I also cried the other day when she said " mein koi nahin hun kya, aise koi karta hain kya, galat hain na maa" when she tells her maa what Abhi said to her. That went straight to the heart too with an arrow💔 I am sorry, I agree just like you, Nainu and Mitu, it is not her responsibility to take the 🤬 out of his life. With what right can she do that? Mitu, I love how you worded it 🤣 especially the dahej wala lines👍🏼

Because with this stupid naya usooli Abhi, there is simply no recourse for her. Any argument or proof can be turned down with him being usooli😡 Even if he is told he is married or proof of chudail mom's non existent illness, the fact still remains that he had given his " vaada" to a witch. This is a foolish situation much like " bhasmasura and Lord Shiva".

I am so glad that this is the first time, Pragya is expressing her sadness, her struggle, her imtihaan since the beginning of time. And for the VERY FIRST time, Abhi is also acknowledging that he has hurt Pragya and is concerned for her⭐️👏👍🏼. Do you guys remember any other instances where he felt bad for her, except may be a few moments during Lonavala?

I want Pragya not to try to comfort him, console him or do anything more. This time, I want Abhi himself to realize that his heart and the love of his life takes precedence over EVERYTHING else and decide what to do FYI, I hated that blank phone call too.

OK guys, have a good weekend.


MILZZ I told youuu I think Pragz took the convertible by herself without us, if it wasn't you. 😆 I was hoping we'd get feedback from you since her monologue reflected our feelings since day one!!!

Tell me more Milz about why you didn't like the blank phone call! I actually loved it so would be interested to know your views! :)

Bold-DITTO (everytime I say ditto I feel like I'm talking about the ditto subscription lol).

Hmmm Abhi realizing he's at fault. Last time that happened was when he found out Tanu was pregnant and Pragya wanted to leave him.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yes right. actuaal after lots of pragya depressing rpisodes. It was watch worthing episode today. I liked how she pointed out everythin on from beginning. And made it point to dadi what and how she would come to their
A mindblowwing beyond express Episode
I JUST LIKE HOW DADI STOOD SPEECHLESS 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: NasreenAyesha

Yes right. actuaal after lots of pragya depressing rpisodes. It was watch worthing episode today. I liked how she pointed out everythin on from beginning. And made it point to dadi what and how she would come to their
A mindblowwing beyond express Episode
I JUST LIKE HOW DADI STOOD SPEECHLESS 👏


Hahahahah!!! Love the GIF Ayesha!! 😆 With the way Daadi had walked in with so much confidece of manao-ing Pragz, I'm estatic she got the brunt of all of Pragya's frustrations. Totally deserved it.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lots of love and thanks to you for writing and posting this 🤗
I am glad that Pragz was allowed to be a human yesterday. Isn't it unfair to expect her to be an emotionless and ideal robot? There's always something that she could have done, right? 😭 When Daadi said, you let it happen, I was like WTH 😲

Hope Daadi doesn't say Tanu is in Abhi's life because Pragz is alive and breathing. Sorry I am so annoyed with this old woman who doesn't guide her grandson but expect others to babysit him. 😡
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