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We can either judge characters based on what we would do if we are in their shoes or what are our tolerance levels as a person or just as a viewer etc. Or we can define them in the context of what is presented. I prefer the latter because none of those characters would do reasonable things going with the real world outside.

Originally posted by: Ashlaika

As Lkb said, if we are to debate on the word Abuse, we can spend the entire day and night here discussing and debating.

Just want to point out something - Eastern World, Western world, North, South - it all matters not. Abuse is Abuse! Regardless of location. Its just that it is illegal in some countries while it's not illegal in others. Verbally abusing someone whether you can be charged for it or not, is STILL verbally abusing someone.

I absolutely disliked how Abhi manhandled Pragya in the restaurant for many reasons. It was indeed typical Abhi behaviour... BUT - he did it in public and public humiliation adds another 10 tonnes to private humilitation cause you will have to face the staff and the ppl there after. If your supposed husband don't respect you in public, why would others show you any respect.
Secondly, the use of the knife was to make a point sure... and we can say from now to damnation that Abhi would NOT use the knife and I know that and maybe Pragya does too... but he brought it out and he was threatening her... and well... what if a waiter tripped into him and him with the knife went straight at Pragya... the point is, he used it and anything could happen.

Abhi however, doesn't and hasn't ever and probably never will take responsibility for his actions. Neither does she actually see that every action as an equal and opposite reaction nor does he realise there are consequences.

I dont know how much longer as a viewer, I can respect Pragya when she doesnt respect herself. Furthermore, not sure how much longer I can respect Abhi since he has none for anyone (expect Dadi).

As for real v. reel... thats another debate that can last a lifetime. But not all of us can differentiate between the two and whether we want to admit it or not, many ppl can relate these stories to their own lives or ACCEPT what happens on these shows as what can/should be the norm.

If we can pick up our sense of style and dressing and clothing from these shows, and want to emulate the styles and looks and clothes, then it begs the question - what else CAN we pick up. What are we saying?

Yes... we don't watch soaps to get a msgs... but it's still sending one isn't it?

Right On!
Agree with the point in bold the most. Recent events are making me dislike Pragya almost as much as I dislike Abhi right now. I've said this before- but Pragya is behaving like someone who has very low self-esteem, quite unlike what she was like pre-marriage. She gave it back to that guy who wanted to marry Bulbul instead of her, but now she is behaving like a lovesick puppy.
Abhi hasn't done anything to warrant this affection/soft spot from her. It seems like she feels like she can't come first with any one and is falling for Abhi just because of their conjugal bond. She definitely wants to make it work, based off of the Kiss Scene where she remembers Sarla's advice. How can such a mature woman possibly apply that advice to the non-marriage that she and Abhi have?
She is rationalising Abhi's behaviour and sees the good in him because she has lost her sense of self-worth.
I am on Pragya's side currently, but if she continues this behaviour, I will have to throw in the towel.
What is frustrating is that the initial premise of KB as a love story of the hearts- between a plain Jane and a materialistic man has been completely lost. 😕

The problem with Real Vs Reel is that as an audience, if we are dissatisfied with the turn shows are taking, we have more than the right to voice it. We can't accept the argument that this is how Indian TV works. If we did, there would never be change. Yes, and reel life is closer to real life than people think. I have seen real life stories which are actually worse than reel life stories.
Why can't we,as the audience, demand a change? If we don't like something, we should be able to state it.

Originally posted by: clarity

Right On!
Agree with the point in bold the most. Recent events are making me dislike Pragya almost as much as I dislike Abhi right now. I've said this before- but Pragya is behaving like someone who has very low self-esteem, quite unlike what she was like pre-marriage. She gave it back to that guy who wanted to marry Bulbul instead of her, but now she is behaving like a lovesick puppy.
Abhi hasn't done anything to warrant this affection/soft spot from her. It seems like she feels like she can't come first with any one and is falling for Abhi just because of their conjugal bond. She definitely wants to make it work, based off of the Kiss Scene where she remembers Sarla's advice. How can such a mature woman possibly apply that advice to the non-marriage that she and Abhi have?
She is rationalising Abhi's behaviour and sees the good in him because she has lost her sense of self-worth.
I am on Pragya's side currently, but if she continues this behaviour, I will have to throw in the towel.
What is frustrating is that the initial premise of KB as a love story of the hearts- between a plain Jane and a materialistic man has been completely lost. 😕

The problem with Real Vs Reel is that as an audience, if we are dissatisfied with the turn shows are taking, we have more than the right to voice it. We can't accept the argument that this is how Indian TV works. If we did, there would never be change. Yes, and reel life is closer to real life than people think. I have seen real life stories which are actually worse than reel life stories.
Why can't we,as the audience, demand a change? If we don't like something, we should be able to state it.

hi!! now here!!!is this an ekta show???? if so then def the female lead will be without a backbone and put up with all crap forever!!!

Originally posted by: kyph21

hi!! now here!!!is this an ekta show???? if so then def the female lead will be without a backbone and put up with all crap forever!!!

We all have choices. There are countless shows on count less TV channels. This is a fiction show and all characters /situations are OTT. Why equate with real life when that is not meant. This is a story and this is how writers want their story to progress .In India evry1 has freedom of expression .. If this is how they want the leads to be, who are we to question their creativity or tell them they are wrong. This is their story. Abhi and Pragya are characters created by them.We have a choice to see it or not see it. The writers are under no compulsion to change their story. True.. Some people are liking this story and want to continue watching it. When no one watches on TV .. Then the show will end.

I'm tired of this constant criticism and some criticize like this is the worst on TV. Then why can't they just ignore the show and watch something better. There is no dearth of channels and shows having other kind of stories. I also don't like some aspects of this show but keep cribbing about it is not going to help. They will show what they want and we have the remote control to make our choice.

Some people find enjoyment in criticizing the show, comparing it to the real world, etc. It really isn't for anyone else to decide how those people watch, how they respond, and when those people should stop or are ready to stop watching.

I don't think anything can get worse than Abhi telling Pragya to commit suicide. That was just low of him.

In the knife scene that's being discussed, I found the worst gesture was throwing the knife which went flying at the table and was stuck there at the end of that scene. That was seriously creepy, knowing someone could've been walking past or it could've hit the staff at the bar. Yikes!

Originally posted by: Ashlaika

I dont know how much longer as a viewer, I can respect Pragya when she doesnt respect herself. Furthermore, not sure how much longer I can respect Abhi since he has none for anyone (expect Dadi).

As for real v. reel... thats another debate that can last a lifetime. But not all of us can differentiate between the two and whether we want to admit it or not, many ppl can relate these stories to their own lives or ACCEPT what happens on these shows as what can/should be the norm.

If we can pick up our sense of style and dressing and clothing from these shows, and want to emulate the styles and looks and clothes, then it begs the question - what else CAN we pick up. What are we saying?

Yes... we don't watch soaps to get a msgs... but it's still sending one isn't it?