Is Mallika that much in the wrong?

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Posted: 13 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: Chitrashi
Ok before I get massacred, I don't support what Mallika is doing right now.

Think about it logically, we feel outraged when seeing intimate scenes between Mallika and Ashutosh. However from both their conversations it is apparent that this type of behavior was normal between them.

So what was Ashutosh doing, getting so intimate with Mallika, if not leading her on?

Would any woman stand to be blamed, if a man is so intimate with her for 12 long years and then one fine day turns around and says, but I never was in love with you, I'm in love with the young hottie, who's just joined us at work?

It doesn't excuse Mallika's current behavior, but let's not put the entire blame on her alone. Ashutosh is equally if not entirely responsible for this mess.

Ashutosh never led her on... He made it clear to her from the very begining,even before Nidhi came on the scene, that it's only friendship that he can offer nothing more than that. On many a occasions,he has made it clear to her... Even when they were in college,he made it clear that it's nothing but friendship ( in one of the earlier episodes MB says that ) between them.

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Mehek25

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Posted: 13 years ago

#12

Very nice post dear...

But first of all I must admit that the last whole week's episodes I have been unable and at times even unwilling to watch...so am not aware of the 'intimacy' u all are referring to...

But one thing is quite clear...That any such intimacy is inconsistent with Ashu's character...He was a doctor who was dedicated to only two things in his life till he met Nidhi...his profession and his Baba...I clearly remember a dialogue where he said he had no time for anything in his life except his profession and his Baba...(Think it was a while ago when MB was portraying the role of Ashutosh)...Ashu is a person who had always shied away from girls...Mallu was simply his classmate first then his colleague and a very good friend...Time and time again he had told her he does not love her...And if my memory holds good Mallu also had never told him she loves him...At least not till Sultry Sue came on to the scene and told her to admit her love to him...

Under the circumstances whatever little intimacy they may have shared could have been totally platonic...and also more from Mallu's side...Sorry if i am wrong but as I said I have not seen the recent episodes...In fact I don't blame either Mallu or Ashu... The person to blame is the writer...He has contradicted his own self...with the sudden change in Ashu's character...from being as reserved but dedicated and caring doctor to a person who appears to have led Mallu on in the past so that she believed he loved her...Had he stuck to Ashu's original character then all this confusion would not have occurred...

So after doing a little maths and putting 2 an 2 together I can only say one thing...KPji please see the previous episodes and write the future scenes and dialogues bearing in mind what u have shown to date...

Conclusion: This is a daily soap where characters are assassinated and then resurrected...Mallu has always been bad...And Ashu has always been a pawn she has used to achieve her vile means...The only thing Ashu could be blamed for is his extra-caring and good nature and his undying loyalty to his friend...Pity him when I think what a blow it will be for him when he realises what Mallu really is...Reminds me of a saying that with a friend like Mallu, Ashu definitely does not need enemies...

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koyelbasu

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Posted: 13 years ago

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In one episode Ashu told Nidhi Mallika agar kisi chiz ke piche par jate hae to bhagwan hi bachae. Actually Mallu's character is chahiye toh chahiye. For 12 yrs Ashu answering negative but she is just behind him. Ashu is a person who cannot say no to any demand easily and Mallu isi batki faida uthai and Ashu answered positive most of her demand except marriage and love proposal where Ashu was sure Mallu is not his cup of tea. Marrying Mallu is ditching her and Ashu can't do that. Ashu is a very emotional. Mallu uses it 100%. Before & now. Ashu told uske dil ek bachhe ki tarah hae. Yes, very true , if you try to take a favourite toy from child he/she started crying and stopped when given back . Like this Ashu is mallu's choice and she used every means emotional to evil to get him. Kabhi bhi koi bhi larki Ashu ke jindegi me aati she would face the same problem more or less as Nidhi. With time Mallu's love become extreme obsession. Now she has become completely evil. But Ashu always proved himself as a great friend. Its her problem after so many denial she never give up. She never understand Love kosish karne se nahi milta hona ho toh bus ho jata hae. In one earliar episode Ashu told Mallu gharwale pressure de rahe hae toh shadi kar lena chahiye Mallu ko. But as usual 12 yrs jap.Waitin for 12 yrs is Mallu's choice Ashu never gave any hope. So Ashu is not responsible but Ashu failed to understand that with this with type of characters he should keep distance.As Arman told Ashu that " for such hyper woman you never know kab kya kar baithe toh be careful ki tumhare Aur Mallu ke dosti tumhare aur Nidhi ke pyar ke bich dakhal na dene lage." Bus yehi galti kar diya Ashu ne. Kash ek sachhe dost ki baton pe dhyan dia hota...

Edited by koyelbasu - 13 years ago

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Bishal

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: fanktlk

Marriage is not the end all. I have aunts who have always prioritized their career and hence never got married... Not that they didn't want to but just never did.

So from Ashu's stand point... Arman is not married... Ashu wasn't so it isn't out of the ordinary that Mallu wasn't either. I don't think he put too much thought into it. It just wan't on his radar and if it wan't right for him... then how could he convince his friend...

But it wasn't unknown to Ashu why Mallu isn't marrying,surely it's fr Ashu...As for Ashu,he was lost bcas Baba left him,Armaan's case must be related to sum old Love-case(During Mumbai Con. he gave the hints)...
As a best and closest friend he should huv a guess of her obsession,she hadn't any professional or economic reason...I'm not saying he encouraged but could do better to discourage...However,it's insignificant regarding Mallu's deeds...She has crossed all limits..

Edited by SwastikAshNi - 13 years ago

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alka

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Posted: 13 years ago

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ofcourse ashutosh is/was not wrong anytime.ashutosh and mallika are friends since 12 years.but when a girl come ina friendship with the boy she always become possessive towards him,but ashutosh never thought about that type of relation with mallika[he refused her proposal for so many times]but in london the things were diff.they both went from india.this was the factor they know each other[pardesh main apne log milnewala].but mallika started to love ashutosh,but ashu rejected her proposal directly/indirectly.now come to nidhis point nidhi loved ashu from bottom,but she didnot forced ashu to love her .her truthness,boldness and simplicity works on ashu.and slowly he started love her.why mallika not told ashu about her love before nidhis arrival.and now malllika is victim and ashu is not that type of guy who can forgot mallika as his friend.mallika is taking all ashus care in a wrong way.that is not fault of ashutosh at all.

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hope

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Posted: 13 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: SwastikAshNi
I will not say Ashu is equally responsible but to an little extent,he is but this can't b the justification of Mallu's deeds.

true cuz you can't clap with one hand 😆 Malika basically started this "illness" but Ashu despite of being a doc is not treating her in the sense she needs to be treated. She needs to be at the hospital not at his house

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fanktlk

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Posted: 13 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: SwastikAshNi

But it wasn't unknown to Ashu why Mallu isn't marrying,surely it's fr Ashu...As for Ashu,he was lost bcas Baba left him,Armaan's case must be related to sum old Love-case(During Mumbai Con. he gave the hints)...
As a best and closest friend he should huv a guess of her obsession,she hadn't any professional or economic reason...I'm not saying he encouraged but could do better to discourage...However,it's insignificant regarding Mallu's deeds...She has crossed all limits..

I doubt if you can guess anyone's obsession... I spend many hours on the forum my husband doesn't really know how many? How is he to guess?

Ashu never gave Mallika any hints. I think as a friend he respected Mallu's choice to be single. There is no rule that girls and guys have to get married by a certain age.

I am married close to 10 yrs and most of my friends are not. Can i guess their reason? Can i ask them? It could be choice, circumstances, just no love found or even for that matter sexual preferences ..

Can one ask? Can one guess?

However close there is still that line that shouldn't be crossed. I think it was might decent of Ashu never crossing that line. That's what gives the indication that he was aware of Mallu's emotions but did not imagine that she would obsess over him.

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Bishal

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Posted: 13 years ago

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@fanktlk-The analysis is really very fine.But as a best friend,Ashu could huv asked directly to Mallu why she isn't marrying instead of just guessing.Crossing a certain age is rare cases,there must huv some reason including all u said.But Ashu had the right to know the reason directly...

And he mightn't b aware of her obsession,but definitely should huv guess of her emotion-otherwise the best friend word will b ridiculous-he can at least try to distance...

Edited by SwastikAshNi - 13 years ago

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fanktlk

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Posted: 13 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: SwastikAshNi
@fanktlk-The analysis is really very fine.But as a best friend,Ashu could huv asked directly to Mallu why she isn't marrying instead of just guessing.Crossing a certain age is rare cases,there must huv some reason including all u said.But Ashu had the right to know the reason directly...

Sorry i disagree here. Mallu could have shared.. But if Ashu thought he had the right to know, then he is closer to Mallu than KP would like us to believe.

As close friends we don't have the right to know everything. My best friend is single. I cannot force her to tell me why? I guess she chooses to be. Can i insist and say... tumhe hamare dosti ki kasam tell me... ? Doesn't work that way, does it?

And if there was a guy in her place... would i have asked?? I might think they are having difficulty finding a partner and by asking I don't want to embarrass them...

I understand that was a distance between the two, Ashu tried to maintain it. So it is unlikely that Ashu would have liked to discuss Mallu's love life.

Again.. sorry if I seem to come out very strongly on this... But I like to believe we are responsible for our actions and it is very easy to blame someone else. Mallu is responsible for what Mallu believed and if she chose not to get the situation clarified untill Sue instigated her... her loss actually...

Ashu is responsible for his actions... and 2nd episode... Mallu tried to dry her hand under the dryer as Ashu and he moved his hand away. Ashu clearly maintained the distance.

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Bishal

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Posted: 13 years ago

#20

I'm a Male...I think i could guess it...Ashu had hardly any other friend or any other relation(after Baba leaving) except or like Mallu..so he did huv the right nd chance to know...what may be the reason Mallu wdn't express her feeling if asked?I see nothing,she could huv said-i wd wait fr u and then Ashu could just decide to accept her or make the wider distance if accepting isn't possible...

Actually the whole closeness debt is confusing in this case-sumtimes it looks very deeps,sumtimes not so...but when Ashu gives Mallu the place bfor Armaan like friend then he must huv a strong-strong close relation...

Logically speaking ,i think if Baba didn't leave him,Ashu wd huv married Mallu,not bcas of Pyaar,just bcas of evryone does marriage and Mallu was the best choice in that case,it wd b like more Arrange Marriage kinda-his Baba wanted it too...That's why when Jagan asked why he didn't marry Mallu-he said bcas he loves Nidhi,that means marrying Mallu could b a option,but he didn't do it bcas Baba left him,he started hating any relation but Nidhi like an Angel changed him even bfor Baba's re-entry...

Edited by SwastikAshNi - 13 years ago

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