KTLK - promise unfulfilled? - Page 3

Originally posted by: wizardofoz

Hi welcome to the forum😊. The era of gripping love stories disappeared from indian tv more than 15 years back. The one show that left a lasting impression on me was "kashish" starring malvika tiwari, sudhesh berry and kalpana iyer. But that again was the era of doordarshan, no trp pressure and no cable tv. Given all the pressures that channels and production houses are under these days, I think KTLK is far superior to the rest of the crap on tv.So i will definitely continue watching. 😊

last but not least loved your post. 😃

Originally posted by: imdudehead

Yeah! I feel the love was forced,

I hope Nidhi realizes this was just a crush..and actually falls in love, if that makes sense...

Originally posted by: Keva

Hi DMGFan-2b-not2b

Subtlety is what is missing in this show. There were a few people on this forum who use to analyze the episodes of KTLK earlier but many have quit. I still watch it coz I am a Mohnish Behl fan and currently he is the only guy on Indian television that can act according to me and hence I watch it for his acting otherwise I am very disappointed with the show.

Originally posted by: Mehek25

Hi Welcome to the forum. I liked the way you have expressed ur views on both DK and KTLK. I particularly liked the following lines (and agree with them too)

The charm of Dhoop Kinare (DP) lay in the gradual development of attraction and the acknowledgement of that.. there were episodes where the lead pair didn't even have scenes anywhere close to romantic together... a series of events, episodes, conversations threw them together.. and they fell in love, slowly but inexorably, true to their characterisations...

But to quote wizardofoz ... The era of gripping love stories disappeared from indian tv more than 15 years back. .... But that again was the era of doordarshan, no trp pressure and no cable tv. Given all the pressures that channels and production houses are under these days, I think KTLK is far superior to the rest of the crap on tv.

After reading both the posts I would just like to give my POV...Both of u are right in ur own way but I too would have liked Nidhi to recognise her love in a more mature way than has been shown...So far as KTLK v/s DK is concerned...I think KTLK is now on the verge of leaving DK behind and is becoming a serial in its own right. All the similarities with DK are now practically at an end and it is now becoming a typical Indian TV show...As for pitting Mallika opposite Nidhi...the cat fights are now going to start...And I am quite show that Maalu harassing Nidhi and Nidhi will face all her challenges bravely and will even come out successfully from them all...This will definitely be a winner in increasing TRPs...lets not forget what wizardofoz said...TRP pressure goes a long way in influencing any show...

But despite all the above points I love this show and will definitely watch it. But I have realised now that if I want to enjoy the show I have to look at it as KTLK and not as a remake of DK. Once we look at it in its own identity I am sure we will all enjoy the show...despite some flaws which can happen even in the best and most successful of daily soaps.

Originally posted by: nureat01

Lovely post! I especially agree with these bits...I had some expectations from this show when it started cuz I felt it started off on a good note and was carving it's own identity in a sense beyond the concept of DK but then as the show progressed, many TRP type elements were added in which left me disappointed and at times irritated with the show.

Finally I gave up having any expectations and am now watching this show mainly for MB's charm and that is why I still watch this show on and off...

Along with KASHISH as you pointed out, THEHRAAV is missing as well...which is what would have made this unusual relationship b/w two individuals so interesting but the makers have chosen not to go that route...alas.

Right now the show has taken a turn towards showing Nidhi like a giddy schoolgirl with a crush on her professor...there is not much maturity in her feelings or her bond with Ashutosh...I'm not sure if that will be evolved in the future or things will just remain at this surface level only.

Originally posted by: DeepShadow

I have to say, the lines in red are so well put and summarize the reasons why DK is still considered a classic. Not only the characters themselves even the backdrop of a hospital and the medical profession were so well handled and portrayed in the most realistic manner. The long hours, the emotional trauma, the stress, the hardships of the profession were executed so brilliantly. The relationship between Zoya and Ahmer had depth and was developed slowly and gradually over time and depicted in a very mature manner. The writing and direction of the show is what I believe made the show what it truly became.Thats what KTLK thoroughly lacks, there is no depth, there is no consistency, there is no logic or sense and the writing, screenplay and direction is absolutely inane.

The first two weeks of the show were actually interesting but that was mainly due to the fact that everything was pretty much copy pasted from DK but once Nidhi quit, the show went haywire. Some of the most ridiculous scenes came in the form of kids going on a hunger strike, running away from hospital, the hospital turning into some sort of a Nidhi Verma fan club...and the shaadi track that ensued was extremely cringe inducing. Apparently that was the creatives reaction to the lower than expected TRPs of the show. It seems like the writers had no faith in their own show and thus resorted to a really lame track which apparently is considered "viewer friendly". I've been finding it very hard to make sense of the show with Nidhi landing up at Dr. Ashutosh's place every day and acting like his nurse/maid/counselor/interior decorator/cook etc. Its been only a week according to the shows timeline yet she is behaving like a lovesick puppy who is chasing after Dr. Ashutosh, which is just extremely embarrassing.

Till last nights episode I thought Dr. Ashutosh had atleast some redeeming qualities left but sadly with ice-cream and alarm clocks that has flown out of the window too. The shaadi track was the WORST thing that ever happened to this show. Both Nidhi and Ashutosh's characters seem to have done a major back flip ever since all the shirt washing - getting wet in the rain nonsense came around. It was so so so so cringe inducing to see all of that.

Sigh...the story itself is supposed to be MATURE but it seems the writing of this show is very very IMMATURE. It all seems to be a game of TRPs with the makers become desperate with each week to get their numbers up by throwing in anything and everything. I'm still hoping beyond hope that somehow sense strikes the writers and they come up with more meaningful tracks and scenes to develop the story further. I know they are aiming to stretch out a 28 episode show but that is not enough reason for the weird and stupid tracks being forced into the show. Monish Behl and Kritika Kamra are capable of delivering so much more than what they're currently being subjected to so atleast for their sake, especially MB's, I hope the writers re-evaluate their writing and get a grip of things quickly.

Originally posted by: ashblore

I have never seen DK nor know the actors.

For me KTLK has been a refreshing & different show.

Nidhi is afterall an Intern who has just completed her studies & joined her first job so she is bound to be immature,bubbly,oozing with enthusiasm.Thats how her character is in this show & thats what makes her different from Ashu or Mallika.This is the main character which draws Ashu towards her otherwise if you see Ashu & Mallika are of same nature-serious,strict hardly any humour in their life.

So Nidhi's character is refreshing & I am sure the CVs will show her slowly evolving into a mature & responsible doctor and she will gain more respect in the eyes of Ashu.

Also one more thing I liked about this show is the whatever few romance/romantic scenes have been between ASHNI looked different from what we see in the daily soaps be it candle light tea making,ashu looking at the roses have all been lovely scenes.

Coming to changing the curtains I think Nidhi wanted ashu to come out of his bad mood & make him feel cheerful.If he kept looking at the torn curtains he would think of his past & his frustrations so as she said "Jab parde badalte hain to insaan bhi badalte hain " was just her another attempt to help him come out of his pain.Nidhi just cant see him in pain so whatever she could do to bring him out of it she has been doing & Ashu too acknowledges that.

Lastly I am liking this show a lot mainly due to MB and there are less number of characters with less su.b-plots & no saas-bahu scenes or kitchen politics.

Originally posted by: ujs30

well even if we don't compare KTLK and DK even then it is little bit difficult to digest nidhi's behaviour for ashu. in last episode the way she react when shahenshah told her that ashu is in his cabin was like 😕. don't know how to express her immaturity. the way in which she overreact on everything related to ashu is not looking good. i am not against her but don't like her behaviour. i haven't seen any girl who is in love behaving like this.

Originally posted by: Marybarton

I agree with everything you said. I admit I like romance between them but when it is subtle, like you said. I do not care for four days of hari-channey ke curry-making and eating. I swear if I hear that word again, I will be tempted to stop watching.

I agree with the immature, cringe-worthy behavior. Watching these scenes where she is being "cute" and rushing into his personal space makes me hope that no woman behaves like this. It is not cute and certainly not proper. She is being repeatedly told she is in love and she does not get it. The preview today showed that she just realized that she is in love. Screaming it off rooftops does not convince me of their love. It HAS to be DEVELOPED, just as you said.

The whole specialty of a May-to-December love story is it's slow development, not immature, inappropriate behavior. Men who go for young women because they make the men feel younger again are different from the character Dr. A is. Those men are in a mid-life crisis, this man is just supposed to reluctantly fall in love. The creatives have cheapened it or just don't have the capability of handling this kind of subject matter.

Originally posted by: pippa

First of all, allow me to say that I love the way you write.

It's rare to read such a well-written and well-thought out post.

Now, to the topic itself.

I have not seen DK and was quite unaware of its existence till KTLK was announced. I remember reading a lot posts since then about the original and the fear that the Indian version might not live up to expectation.

Nevertheless, I was excited over the prospect of watching KT:K mainly because of MB...and, when the show began, I did watch with bated breath...and waited for the shoe to drop.

Well, in a nutshell, it didn't drop!

In other words, I agree with your take a 100%. I don't have the knowledge of the original to compare it with, but I still feel exactly as you do.

The cvs' headlong rush into portraying the romance makes little sense to me. Tampering with the character of Mallika makes no sense at all...the almost cartoon caricatures of some of the side characters annoy. Nidhi's attitude towards the good doctor almost that of a stalker!

Needless to say, I've stopped watching the show out of sheer disappointment.

I can't imagine how you must be feeling.

PS: I enjoyed reading all the responses to your post as well