*Season 2, Week 31* Analysis Thread - Page 11

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Posted: 8 years ago
Ishwari ji, aap jab insecure hoti ho toh hum handle ya tolerate nahii kar paate , aap jab over sweet hoti ho, tab bhi hum tolerate nahi kar paate .. Kyaa paate hain, Kya khote hain, jab Ishwariji interfere karti hai Dev aur Sona ki zindagi me...
#JusticeForDev 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
Today I started watching the series from the beginning and realized that no matter how many writers have changed,, the makers have kept the original story intact. In fact in the second episode, Neha mentions Rakshabandhan and says that she will wait for the rakhi festival like riya and Nikki the day he changes her fate. If he can find a guy who will marry her as per her conditions then she will think that she got the due for her contributions.

In the same episode, Sameer(the guy who is supposed to marry Neha) tells both Neha and Dev that he can no longer accept the condition of not wanting children in future. And Dev says you should have thought of that before. It was not ok to back off now. But Sameer says he has no choice, he cannot accept to this condition as it would break his mothers heart.

In current episode he is proving what that guy couldn't do. That guy chose to not have a wife without the child she will bear. Dev chose the wife and not the child that she might bear.

The other thing is the beautiful white cupboard in his room. Which has all those things that represented Ishwari's pain and struggles. The bad and painful memories of his life that he has safely locked up within himself. The ones about which most of the people around him don't know. From outside it is one of the most wonderful cupboard with such an intricate design. But on the inside it has all those ugly memories. I wish there was more time so that he could open that cupboard and slowly heal. 😔 . It would have been a beautiful journey to see him finally be able to replace the things in the cupboard with good memories.

Conversely the box of memories in Ishwari's cupboard are filled with those memories that she cherishes of her children. Although like Sonakshi he won gold medal and trophies, they are not displayed proudly like in Bose house. He doesn't even acknowledge them anywhere. And Ishwari has only good memories stored in that box like the shawl he wore for janmashtmi or the toy he won for Neha in the fair.

How I am going to miss this beautiful serial and the story it brought forth. The way the makers are retracing all those points that makes Dev Dixit, Dev Dixit. It would have been nice if the makers had time to show his feelings for once, the pain he feels to what his dreams are. Where the people around him stop wanting something from him and for once give him something in return.

P.S: I had previously mentioned about tomorrow being special because this was the day Ishwari landed in hospital following the overdose of sleeping pills. For whom Dev gave up his dreams and the life he wanted. And tomorrow all 3 of the protagonists are in the same place. Where once Dev did not want to build his life on his mother's unhappiness and her giving up her life, today he is faced with the same situation. The only difference is if last time his mother and the love of his life were on opposite sides, this time they are together.

P.P.S: I was glad to see a shocked Ishwari on getting to know that Sonakshi's life too is in danger along with the baby.

It is going to be both heart warming and heart wrenching journey next week filled with bittersweet memories. I think I will keep the tissue box handy. 😆 😆

Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Got clarifications today ...

# Ishwari maa was jst speculating bout a baby boy.
# Dev Dixit recollected wat Sona tried to say the other day bout her pregnancy.

# Dev considers Sonakshi over everything . She's indeed his prime priority , nt choice.

# Ishwari was nt aware of the complications fully which may nt only affect baby but also Sonakshi .


Btw, @Shaavi...talking bout Sameer n comparing him with Dev..I think , that;s totally irrelevant. Can u expect Dev to say yes to a girl who has a demand that she won't get pregnant bcoz she don like babies due to her bitter harsh childhood. Will Dev's mom ever allow him to do that ? Will Dev's mom allow him to marry a girl who's nt willing to giv " ghar ka chirag " ??

Now coming to this scenario... say Sameer did marry Neha . Neha is having complications with her pregnancy. Don u think Sameer too will think like the way Dev did ? Usually every husbands who genuinely in luv with their wives, will think the same way as Dev. IMO, Sameer too will say he wants Neha, nt this complicated pregnancy .


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: aarcha

Got clarifications today ...

# Ishwari maa was jst speculating bout a baby boy.
# Dev Dixit recollected wat Sona tried to say the other day bout her pregnancy.

# Dev considers Sonakshi over everything . She's indeed his prime priority , nt choice.

# Ishwari was nt aware of the complications fully which may nt only affect baby but also Sonakshi .


Btw, @Shaavi...talking bout Sameer n comparing him with Dev..I think , that;s totally irrelevant. Can u expect Dev to say yes to a girl who has a demand that she won't get pregnant bcoz she don like babies due to her bitter harsh childhood. Will Dev's mom ever allow him to do that ? Will Dev's mom allow him to marry a girl who's nt willing to giv " ghar ka chirag " ??

Now coming to this scenario... say Sameer did marry Neha . Neha is having complications with her pregnancy. Don u think Sameer too will think like the way Dev did ? Usually every husbands who genuinely in luv with their wives, will think the same way as Dev. IMO, Sameer too will say he wants Neha, nt this complicated pregnancy .



Aarcha, I was not comparing Dev with Sameer. What i was trying to convey was "karma". Once upon a time Dev had tried to buy a guy for his sister. He was ready to give up 30% of his company so that, that guy can marry his sister. I don't know if he would stand by Neha or not, but he was shown for a short period of time and in that time he was shown to like the other things he was getting more than Neha. If he wanted to marry Neha, he would have accepted her conditions without expecting Dev to give all the things that Dev had promised him.

It was also one of the things that i was remembering where Sonakshi had called Dev "spineless". And as I said I was watching the series from the beginning, watching all those initial episodes. What was shown in those first few episodes are now the very relevant points in the story. Like Dev's friend Bunty asking him what his dreams are and Dev replying that he never had time for "his dreams". To Neha complaining about the differentiation that Ishwari showed between her and Dev. To setting up of IN and the way maamaji, maami and Vickky were at that time. Where Ishwari questions Neha's conditions for marriage. Neha's conditions were that she should live away from her in-laws and not have kids for life. In a way Sonakshi separated Dev - Ishwari relationship and now even though they would love to have kids, it is not an easy dream. And as you said since Dev genuinely loves Sonakshi, he will pick her and want her more than anything.

As to me thinking if guys like Sameer would do the same, in my experience, I doubt it. I have seen both ways. Husbands who have stood by their wives as well as husbands who have treated their wives as some property/investment on which they should be getting interest back. treating them like baby making machines. Asking their wives to fulfill all the demands of their parents. And I don't want to debate on that.

Ishwari is not like Sameer's mom. Sameer's mom no matter how she justified accepting the conditions, bottom line was the money and riches she was getting. And very soon it turned into wanting her daughter as the wife of Dev more important than anything. If she was a good mom, she would never have turned her son's wedding to a business deal and expect that Dev should marry her daughter. Ishwari has always been a good mother and will continue to be one. And as you said she didn't know that the complications were not just for the baby's life, but also Sonakshi's. She definitely wouldn't want to become grandmother at the cost of losing the mother. She will not want Sonakshi to go through any pain. But I think this acceptance of Ishwari for herself and not because she is pregnant will give that courage to Sonakshi for going through with the pregnancy.



Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

While the past few episodes have focussed on Sonakshi's pregnancy and its arising complications, I was more keen to see a closure on Vicky's and XGKB's track, of understanding their mistakes and asking for forgiveness. I was keen to see the Tripathis move out of DIxit home as it's now going to be Dev's family that needs to be there forever. Let Mamaji decide to move in with his son and cordially bid his Kachori goodbye. Distance makes the heart grow fonder and helps keeping relationship intact. Since Dev was never able to fully forgive Vicky, it would be a half-hearted approach if Vicky is accepted again and forgiven for his mistakes. Forgiveness is indeed divine and that is also acceptable, but I don't believe that inherent qualities in a person can change overnight!!! Vicky and Elena-Golu along with Mamaji-XGKB have to start their own life.

Well, that's all for now.



-Rekha
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Posted: 8 years ago
Elena impressed me in the last two episodes. I don't know if dev told her or she guessed. What matters is that she has figured what is vicky's issue. Because she was shallow and selfish but never had this hideous sense of entitlement towards Dev and Ishwari.

Vicky craves for attention away from Dev. He wanted his worth to be recognised. Elena cut her losses and gave him that. She decided that the best way out of this downward spiral is to let Vicky understand his self worth. For that he needed a fresh start and she gave him that with help from Dev.

The constant taunts were getting him nowhere. He was simply getting worse.
Instead she is giving him that sense of worth. Letting sleeping dogs lie. Especially because dev and sona have made peace with it. She has managed to get Golu to spend time in IN too.

I don't know how long her patience with Vicky will last. I guess so long as he doesn't do anything wrong she will take him forward. She was the same even in IN. Used to ignore a lot of what Vicky did.

Elena always wanted to be like sona. She never has a family and we don't know why h we family in kolkotta cut ties with her. So this is very important for her. Someone whose she is.

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Posted: 8 years ago
I sooo badly want a purely hubby wife conversation... and honestly Sonakshi choosing a kid over her safety is very unfair to her husband.
Sigh.. will Dev get a break..ever... phir se tension.

Wish to see Devakshi conversing like a matured husband wife and deciding after weighing out their options. I know it's common for parents and in laws to interfere.. but...

Oh and I always knew once Bijoy realizes how much his son in law adores and prioritizes his daughter over an unborn kid, they will get along like a house on fire.

Hope Sonakshi stresses to Ishwari that she wants to prioritize her husband, and discuss with him..
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shaavi...

In current episode he is proving what that guy couldn't do. That guy chose to not have a wife without the child she will bear. Dev chose the wife and not the child that she might bear.

I was jst readin thru that comment of u'r's. V've n't shown much bout Sameer , so it's n't possible to dissect his character , that's one thing. But watever v saw, that was enuf to understand Sameer's mom as a greedy n over pride lady .

I've n't watched those prev episodes for so long but watever I remember , Sameer was @ first reluctant to accept Dev's offer of 30% share. Later he accepted that offer , may b thinking, he can satisfy his mother with this offer since she's a greedy one. I know, people r different , though personally I've n't met such guys but heard bout from relatives n friends . But wat was shown of Sameer , felt he kinda + ve guy. In the serial world , these 2 extremes( +ve's & -ve's ) r always goin thru a very narrow bridge , can go either side anytime acc to the story line depending on the drama quotient .
Like the way u said , there r guys who asked their spouses to fulfill demands of their parents. Btw, didn that hapnd with Dev too ?? Even if he didn ask Sona the same directly, they had to undergo somewat similar experience . How can v forget the mission dixit baby drama in Shimla ? Even talking or thinking bout all those tracks still making me uncomfortable even though it's reel .

V hav seen Ishwari as an insecured mother & how horrible that was. But I'm okay with this Ish maa but I'm expecting her to allow her son n daughter in law to take their own decisions or @ least allow them to b together , they 're nt newly wedded couples , they r parents of a 7 yr old girl ( Btw, mamaji was referring soha's age as 8 )

6 more episodes to go .. anyways , always a pleasure to exchange a few words with u all.
Edited by aarcha - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Agree with Rekha. I am interested in Vicky GKB closure only. I too would like to see Mamaji walk out of Iswari Nivas with his wife. More than RR he irritated me with his bhashans and misplaced advices. I hope they will go and settle with my Red.


The pregnancy track is irritating and brings back bitter memories. Iswari 's intrusion and over enthusiasm could have been avoided if Sonakshi told her the full truth that her life may fall in danger . Atleast when Iswari is reading Gita then she could have informed her point blank. How could she tolerate Dev hanging outside with tension and concern for her well being?


I was surprised at Asha's attitude. She should have gone with Dev to IN and make Iswari realise how she is getting intrusive and not letting them discuss and decide.


Finally I believe no one can over power a person if he or she resists to be overpowered. Especially not when they claim to be infividuals with their priorities well fixed.So I can't swallow Sonakshi getting overpowered by Iswari. Not again. This is not season 1 this is Season 2



As usual feel bad for Dev. His mother and wife vie with each other to spoil his mental peace.



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Posted: 8 years ago
More than ishwari I was surprised with bose family. I know ishwari was wrong but she didn't know the whole truth sona didn't tell her but what's wrong with aasha and bijoy . Are they not concerned for sonakshi . I think yesterday dev told them every thing but why they r so calm and compose . I didn't expect anything from asha she is always calm but what's wrong with bijoy . I thought he's most concerned father in the world . And mamaji seriously he again start his lecture . Yesterday I was super disappointed with asha bijoy .

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