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Posted: 8 years ago
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Payal..awesome response.
Granted that current Sona is sounding too preachy for my taste, but I do respect that earlier she had very little ego and lot of goodwill while interfering. Now she is smarter and interferes with better strategy.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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@payal, each and every question of yours is valid. I believe each one of us irrespective of our gender has right to live our life the way we want then I also believe that each right comes with its own responsibility. Till we have clarity about our priorities in life and when we communicate the same to the other party by equally respecting their rights, nothing is wrong. I don't think it's problem with the generation, the problem comes when we say "I love you the way you are" before marriage and "I love you the way you are with the changes I want" after marriage. When we say it's our right to live our life the way we want then we should also know that it's our responsibility to own up it's consequences. I believe in equality but I can't agree to superiority on the name of equality by playing victim card or woman card as per convenience. It's just my POV.
Good to see you back Payal.😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LiveLife321

@payal, each and every question of yours is valid. I believe each one of us irrespective of our gender has right to live our life the way we want then I also believe that each right comes with its own responsibility. Till we have clarity about our priorities in life and when we communicate the same to the other party by equally respecting their rights, nothing is wrong. I don't think it's problem with the generation, the problem comes when we say "I love you the way you are" before marriage and "I love you the way you are with the changes I want" after marriage. When we say it's our right to live our life the way we want then we should also know that it's our responsibility to own up it's consequences. I believe in equality but I can't agree to superiority on the name of equality by playing victim card or woman card as per convenience. It's just my POV.

Good to see you back Payal.😊


Latha,

Heard the famous lines-
A woman marries a man expecting that he will change and he doesn't. A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change but she does😆

Jokes apart, I know that it is wrong to change the rules of the game in the middle of the game but sonakshi who knew of Devs love for his family automatically expected herself and her family to be included under his family umbrella by him. The way his family was her's, she expected her family to be his.
She never expected that Devs unconditional support for his family would not extend to her or that her every dream would be at the lowest rung of the ladder of his preferences.

She also never expected that the family which treated her like their own would start treating her as an outsider and competitor after marriage just because of their insecurities.

Latha, fact of the matter is all three protagonists made mistakes. The seven year period has made them introspect and realise where they have gone wrong and hence are now dealing with similar situations in mature and sensible fashion.

Even I am not appreciating sonakshi's giving importance to everyone above Dev or trying to set everything right but that is maybe her guilt coping mechanism the way Dev keeps on apologising and ishwari is trying to keep herself occupied.

Each one of them is guilty and each is trying to attain forgiveness in his own way as per his personality.

I object only when sonakshi is made responsible for everything that went wrong when she herself was a victim like others.

And my being absent, I am abstaining from only the weekly thread as I felt that maybe my presence was viciating the atmosphere. I shouldn't be responsible for spoiling a peaceful environment just because of a difference of opinion.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Payalj_


Latha,

Heard the famous lines-
A woman marries a man expecting that he will change and he doesn't. A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change but she does😆

Hi5 yaar. 😆

Jokes apart, I know that it is wrong to change the rules of the game in the middle of the game but sonakshi who knew of Devs love for his family automatically expected herself and her family to be included under his family umbrella by him. The way his family was her's, she expected her family to be his.
She never expected that Devs unconditional support for his family would not extend to her or that her every dream would be at the lowest rung of the ladder of his preferences.

Lets accept this bitter truth Payal. Relationships wont work with assumptions and one sided decisions. He accepted her as his family but we cant expect the entire family members to treat her the same way over night. It takes time some times years for this change. This is unreasonable demand. If his family treated her like an outsider then her family also treated him like an outsider. Its just that he never made a big issue out of that. If he failed to become a bridge between his mother and his wife then she failed to become a bridge between her father and her husband. The main issue was lack of communication and trust between them. She never communicated her issues with him properly because she never trusted him and she wanted to handle everything on her own. For Sona, Its always like either My way or Highway.

She also never expected that the family which treated her like their own would start treating her as an outsider and competitor after marriage just because of their insecurities.

Whether Dev knows it or not, She exactly had clear idea of people mindset about her relationship with Dev before her marriage itself. I still remember how pathetically ishwari commented about their relationship before her and behind Dev's back.

Latha, fact of the matter is all three protagonists made mistakes. The seven year period has made them introspect and realise where they have gone wrong and hence are now dealing with similar situations in mature and sensible fashion.

Even I am not appreciating sonakshi's giving importance to everyone above Dev or trying to set everything right but that is maybe her guilt coping mechanism the way Dev keeps on apologising and ishwari is trying to keep herself occupied.

Each one of them is guilty and each is trying to attain forgiveness in his own way as per his personality.

I object only when sonakshi is made responsible for everything that went wrong when she herself was a victim like others.

Agree with you on this that all three had their own share in the past mess but i have problem with the way they handled their half baked reunion as well as the current track till 2 days back because of lack of balance. Its looking like all guilt belongs to Dev and all strength belongs Sona. For me, It was looking like a Ishwari-Sona love track where Dev is the third angle. More than husband and wife, these two are looking like teacher and student where Sona dictates the instructions and Dev follows as it is. Give me a break from those never ending lectures. 😆

And my being absent, I am abstaining from only the weekly thread as I felt that maybe my presence was viciating the atmosphere. I shouldn't be responsible for spoiling a peaceful environment just because of a difference of opinion.

Come on yaar. As part of discussions there will be difference of opinions but that should not stop us from voicing our thoughts right. Till we wont disrespect or hurt others with our words, nothing is wrong. Missing all the fabulous write-ups from you guys. So think again.😊
See you later, time to go to pick my son from school. 🤗

Edited by LiveLife321 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Latha, with respect to the illogical goings on currently in the show I have two submissions-

1. It's business and the primary audience women. So be thankful that Dev doesn't need sonas help for finding his way to the bathroom. Just look at other shows

2. Regarding sonakshi's cold treatment of Dev again it's business. Consummation is big business and trip magnet. They just hooked in some audience by the reunion track. Consummation will come when there is threat of show being closed. Till then leads will behave like thirteen year olds in love
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Payalj_

@Latha, with respect to the highlights illogical goings on currently in the show I have this opinion

1. It's business and the primary audience women. So be thankful that Dev doesn't need sonas help for finding his way to the bathroom. Just look at other shows

Hahaha.😆 I only watch KRPKAB so no idea about the current trend in other shows. So please pardon me.😊

2. Regarding sonakshi's cold treatment of Dev again it's business. Consummation is big business and trip magnet. They just hooked in some audience by the reunion track. Consummation will come when there is threat of show being closed. Till then leads will behave like thirteen year olds in love

Everyone's requirements may be different yaar. But i am not looking for any hot romance at present, all i am looking for is little empathy from Sona towards Dev's emotions because they both need to heal each other first. All i am seeing is, Mrs. Dixit turning in to Mrs. FIXIT.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Grace

Thanks for sharing the conversation. I think I can guess who that other one is but it is immaterial now.

The part where you explained how you understood Sonakshi's reasons for not exposing or accepting her part I can not agree with anything or on any point.
Want to say only that much since there is a long gap between both our thought processes.

Lakshmi


Lakshmi...Thanks for the comments. I know it's difficult to accept that Sona is hiding her emotions, as most of the time it was shown she feeling guilty, it was shown in a very subtle way. That's why I also couldn't accept Sona's mahanatma & extra sweety behaviour initially. That's why I rewatched those scenes, especially Sona's expressions closely, that I reached this assumption that Sona is trying to hide her emotions as she is still at doubt somewhere. My post being made before Thursday's episode, the next 2 episodes somewhat confirmed my doubt. Because, the way she reacted on hearing Ishwari's struggle in the past, was like she hadn't understood their past with such a intensity earlier, which made her to step into Dev's shoes and think about him the whole night. That's why the next day, we see that change in her, where she steps aside and give the charge to Dev to make everything right between him & Ishwari. Only when he misbehaves with Ishwari, she then suddenly puts on the old Sona avatar; but then she immediately comes out of it and makes him understand why Ishwari loves this job. Hope we will continue to see this changed Sona in the upcoming episodes.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: pkbdas61

Good lord, are you still analysing the show? wow, hats off to you.

i am taking it one day at a time, one episode at a time.. ONLY for Sharica, but get away disappointed each time as their screen time is dwindling so rapidly.

my sincere advise - do not spoil your mood or your mind with analysis. it is not worth it. Apologize if my statement offends you. At least i have long stopped doing so.

Enjoy!


Dasji...good to see you back again and thanks for the comments...I agree with you that now a days we have to take one episode at a time, considering the stress it is causing to us. Tbh, even Sharica scenes are not pulling me to the show. It is the other occassional scenes like the Bose house scenes, Ishwari-Lakshya scenes & Dev-Ishwari scenes that give me that old warm feeling. And still sticking to the show, as once it used to be the darling of all of us.😊

Regarding the above analysis, it was a part of our private conversation that happened when she tried to lift me up seeing me down with the developments, especially when I backed off seeing Dev alone being taken on a guilt trip.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sp12

@grace4317 Very well thought post and thanks for sharing the conversation, while I do agree with some of the points I am still not able to connect with the thought process that Sonakshi has right now, that might be because I am comparing this Sonakshi with the Sonakshi of the old which might not be the right way of looking at it.
I also hope that things happen according to the conversation that you have posted, the expectation of that is what keeping me invested in the series despite the story being illogical for some time now. Hope things change for better.

Just my POV, no offence.


Thank you for the coments sp12...I can understand the disconnect as I also was feeling the same. And that's why I rewatched those scenes and tried to find out what the makers were actually trying to portray. If you read my above reply to Lakshmi, you will understand why I felt as what I have posted in my first post in this thread.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LiveLife321

Thanks for this post grace and also to our invisible friend. I really hope that this show goes the way as our friend guessed/analyzed. Fingers crossed.😊


Thanks Latha for the comments and guessing our invisible friend. 😊

I am also really wishing that our show will regain back its old charm in the coming days.

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