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Posted: 8 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Shaavi



But Geena, isn't Bijoy himself the "author" of the "catastrophe" that befell them. Isn't he the one responsible for his daughters broken heart and trust. Why I say that is Dev and Sonakshi's marriage broke after the 5 cs fiasco. But Bijoy is the creator of that fiasco when he advised his daughter who was "Dev's wife" to hide the fact that she was planning to open a company from her "husband". Did Bijoy think even for a minute that Sonakshi cannot become the owner, CEO or MD without her husband knowing about it. Especially since her husband is a famous businessman in the same city and is well known to all the banks, loan managers and investors. This destruction of Sonakshi's marriage was started by Bijoy on "bhaidhooj" which was way before Dev's birthday fiasco or the wardrobe fiasco or any of those things that followed. Dev lied because of Sonakshi hiding things from him. He felt it was urgent that Sonakshi and Ishwari bonded so that Sonakshi can start telling the truth and not go by her fathers advice. But when that "adviser" cared only about his pride and ego and not about his own daughters happiness there was very little he could do.

If Bijoy who preaches truth and honesty had not told his daughter to lie, Dev and Sonakshi would have been happily married. But Bijoy never wanted that. For him his pride and ego was more important than his daughter following her dreams and making them come true. All the insults and devestation that happened was because of Bijoy's blindness regarding himself. He thought himself so morally superior that he failed to see what he was doing or what the consequences of his words and actions can be. It is not that Sonakshi looses her senses when it comes to Dev, it is Bijoy. He lets his hatred blind him to the extent where he ends up hurting his own family, but because of his double standards ends up blaming Dev. Whatever pain, hurt and any of those feelings that Sonakshi is going through today is because of Bijoy and not Dev.


Kudos to you Shaavi for saying it which I feel is the ultimate fact. If Sona loses herself before Dev it is because atleast that moment she is being true to herself. She is listening to her heart's call that they are meant for each other. Once she comes away she again becomes BD the ever loyal daughter that Bijoy wished to see her as.
Truly the father is becoming the reason for the daughter's suffering.Dev is the scapegoat here.

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Posted: 8 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Shaavi



But Geena, isn't Bijoy himself the "author" of the "catastrophe" that befell them. Isn't he the one responsible for his daughters broken heart and trust. Why I say that is Dev and Sonakshi's marriage broke after the 5 cs fiasco. But Bijoy is the creator of that fiasco when he advised his daughter who was "Dev's wife" to hide the fact that she was planning to open a company from her "husband". Did Bijoy think even for a minute that Sonakshi cannot become the owner, CEO or MD without her husband knowing about it. Especially since her husband is a famous businessman in the same city and is well known to all the banks, loan managers and investors. This destruction of Sonakshi's marriage was started by Bijoy on "bhaidhooj" which was way before Dev's birthday fiasco or the wardrobe fiasco or any of those things that followed. Dev lied because of Sonakshi hiding things from him. He felt it was urgent that Sonakshi and Ishwari bonded so that Sonakshi can start telling the truth and not go by her fathers advice. But when that "adviser" cared only about his pride and ego and not about his own daughters happiness there was very little he could do.

I would not hold him entirely responsible for that whole fiasco Shaavi. He might have contributed but a very small percentage compared to others. This is again caused by the difference in thinking, their culture and also the difference in their class and status. These families didn't understand each other in the first place. For Bijoy his families self respect was of utmost importance. He didn't want the people to say that Sonakshi married Dev for money or that their families expected monetary gains from this match. Bijoy understood the Dixits especially the mentality of Tripati's better than anyone in the family. That is why he insisted that they will not inform about the business venture and the need for the capital to Dev. The thing was that even Dev understood this. When Saurabh returned the car even though he was hurt he understood the why. That is the reason he kept it a secret and asked Saurabh not to inform Sonakshi. Because he wanted it to be kept as a business deal and not to involve family. But Vicki and Mami blow it out of proportion and the worst thing was he was not able to do the damage control before things went out of his hands. It was already out of his hands when he entered the picture.

If Bijoy who preaches truth and honesty had not told his daughter to lie, Dev and Sonakshi would have been happily married. But Bijoy never wanted that. For him his pride and ego was more important than his daughter following her dreams and making them come true. All the insults and devestation that happened was because of Bijoy's blindness regarding himself. He thought himself so morally superior that he failed to see what he was doing or what the consequences of his words and actions can be. It is not that Sonakshi looses her senses when it comes to Dev, it is Bijoy. He lets his hatred blind him to the extent where he ends up hurting his own family, but because of his double standards ends up blaming Dev. Whatever pain, hurt and any of those feelings that Sonakshi is going through today is because of Bijoy and not Dev.


This I have to completely disagree Shaavi. If not Bijoy someone else or something else would have definitely tore them apart. No one was ready for this marriage. Sonakshi was right regarding this. Their relationship was not strong enough to withstand any external turbulence because these two never gave the respect and and importance to their marriage. They tried to live according to others and not for themselves. They both didn't knew how to live for themselves in the first place. I have been watching the old episodes including the marriage and the separation because of the disconnect I am feeling right now with the show. But thank fully it changed a lot of my perspectives. Bijoy asked Sona to not forget her father's insult because he didn't want her to forget who and what she was. If she doesn't respect herself no one else would. He wanted her to not let others take her for granted. If Sona wanted to stay married she could have asked Dev to live separately and not in IN where her father was insulted. It was ultimately Sona's decision to break the marriage and both Dev and Sona were responsible for things to reach that stage. Who is more at fault doesn't matter because ultimately they both lost or failed.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Looks like bijoy also agreed (going by this scene and toi spoilers). Wonder where is all this heading to? I would have understood had bijoy just released sonakshi from his promise and take her own decisions but asking that Dev is waiting??? I mean he has not seen much of changed Dev ( many facts are hidden and many are unexposed)... well I really want reunion of Dev and sonakshi as I think they deserve each other and never got enough time to stabilize their relationship with all the external factors affecting them eventually but not like this. My mind still feels perplexed with the thought of bijoy agreeing so soon into this.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Geena. Doesn't the author hold the key to how the story goes. Here that author is Bijoy. For me being the author, he has a lion's share in destroying his daughters marriage. If the first step is wrong, then the steps following them will be wrong too. And he was the one who charted this course for Sonakshi when he advised her to "lie" and hide the "truth". He failed to accept or respect that his daughter was married and she was answerable to Dev and Ishwari. If he was acting based on his self respect and was not blinded by his pride and ego, there were 'n' number of ways to handle that situation. He could have directly talked to Dev and told him about his concerns regarding taking Dev's help. Dev wouldn't have forced him nor given money to Saurabh in secret. He would have happily backed out and provided other kind of support. Dev would have introduced Saurabh to other investors or loan managers and then the story would have been completely different. A guy who preaches honesty and truthfulness chose the path of lying for what, to keep his pride and ego intact. Pride is not a virtue and no self respect doesn't take away ones sensibility, but pride does. Hence I don't consider what Bijoy did as something to keep his self respect. He was being totally selfish.

In one of the episodes Sonakshi gave a huge speech about how the names of relationships are the same and questioned Ishwari if she taught Dev that. If as Sonakshi said that she considered both Asha and Ishwari the same as her "maa", then hiding such a big truth from her "maa" was wrong wasn't it. Wasn't this the result of Bijoy's advice. Didn't Bijoy failed to be a "father" in true sense. If he was a good father, he wouldn't have given such an advice to his daughter whose consequences can be so disastrous. It is not Dev who failed Sonakshi, it is Bijoy with his so called "self respect" and "righteousness", his "perfectness". He would have cared for his daughter and her happiness and not sacrificed them to satisfy his ego.

Only when the first step is corrected the following steps can be corrected. That is why Sonakshi is stuck where she is, where she is ready to destroy another girls life to keep her facade in turn her image in front of Bijoy intact. Whatever is happening is not on Dev or Ishwari, it is on Sonakshi. She is responsible for all the consequences that will happen if she doesn't admit the truth. It is not about Dev's inability at all for standing up for her. It is about Sonakshi's inability to accept the truths regarding herself and her father. She cannot just rearrange everyone's life so that her and her father's image of perfection is not broken. She has to contend with the fact that neither she nor her father is perfect. Far from being perfect, she has to acknowledge that they have caused a lot of hurt and harm to the Dixits to maintain their facade.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Shaavi


As far as I remember Bijoy never told Sona not to tell her in-laws about the business venture. It was Saurabh who requested her not to tell any one.


Saurabh told her "Abhi tere sasural mein iske baare mein mat batana" .. That too when Bijoy & Asha were not present in the room (Check episode181 at 12:30 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS6krrVuNis)


I am not sure why is Bijoy blamed for this ?? Wondering if I am missing something ??




Originally posted by: ltelidevara


Kudos to you Shaavi for saying it which I feel is the ultimate fact. If Sona loses herself before Dev it is because atleast that moment she is being true to herself. She is listening to her heart's call that they are meant for each other. Once she comes away she again becomes BD the ever loyal daughter that Bijoy wished to see her as.
Truly the father is becoming the reason for the daughter's suffering.Dev is the scapegoat here.

Lakshmi

Edited by SoniSoni12 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Shaavi


As far as I remember Bijoy never told Sona not to tell her in-laws about the business venture. It was Saurabh who requested her not to tell any one.


Saurabh told her "Abhi tere sasural mein iske baare mein mat batana" .. That too when Bijoy & Asha were not present" in the room (Check episode181 at 12:30 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS6krrVuNis)


I am not sure why is Bijoy blamed for this ?? Wondering if I am missing something ??




@Sonisoni12, I dont remember the episode numbers or the exact time, but Bijoy twice tells Sonakshi not to tell Dev or Dixits about it or that she gave the check before to cover the marriage expenses. It is at the dining table where he is sitting and he says don't tell Ishwari that you are looking for loan. That Ishwari will take it wrong and adds that it was a "Bose family matter". But Sonakshi was not a Bose, she was a Dixit at the time. By telling what he did be closes all the doors for Sonakshi to Dixit house.
Saurabh does say what you said in that episode, but he says "abhi mat bataana". He doesn't say never reveal. But that is exactly what Bijoy tells her to do. Never tell them. That is why I hold Bijoy responsible and not Saurabh.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaavi



But Geena, isn't Bijoy himself the "author" of the "catastrophe" that befell them. Isn't he the one responsible for his daughters broken heart and trust. Why I say that is Dev and Sonakshi's marriage broke after the 5 cs fiasco. But Bijoy is the creator of that fiasco when he advised his daughter who was "Dev's wife" to hide the fact that she was planning to open a company from her "husband". Did Bijoy think even for a minute that Sonakshi cannot become the owner, CEO or MD without her husband knowing about it. Especially since her husband is a famous businessman in the same city and is well known to all the banks, loan managers and investors. This destruction of Sonakshi's marriage was started by Bijoy on "bhaidhooj" which was way before Dev's birthday fiasco or the wardrobe fiasco or any of those things that followed. Dev lied because of Sonakshi hiding things from him. He felt it was urgent that Sonakshi and Ishwari bonded so that Sonakshi can start telling the truth and not go by her fathers advice. But when that "adviser" cared only about his pride and ego and not about his own daughters happiness there was very little he could do.

If Bijoy who preaches truth and honesty had not told his daughter to lie, Dev and Sonakshi would have been happily married. But Bijoy never wanted that. For him his pride and ego was more important than his daughter following her dreams and making them come true. All the insults and devestation that happened was because of Bijoy's blindness regarding himself. He thought himself so morally superior that he failed to see what he was doing or what the consequences of his words and actions can be. It is not that Sonakshi looses her senses when it comes to Dev, it is Bijoy. He lets his hatred blind him to the extent where he ends up hurting his own family, but because of his double standards ends up blaming Dev. Whatever pain, hurt and any of those feelings that Sonakshi is going through today is because of Bijoy and not Dev.


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seriously have u seen the show really ...
u cooked up ur version on bijoy asking sona to hide about business seriously i ask u too watch those episode yet again .
sourabh was the one asked her to hide not bijoy and sona didn't know dev helped unless it was open .
dev was never trust worthy .
bijoy is righteous from the start till now he preaches which he follows .
dev only used to play games hide things from wife and mom
if u have to blame its dev he always played safe and sona bijoy used to get stuck .
don't forget infertility track dev hid with both family but what happened ishwari blamed sona for cheating .
don't forget prenup dev asked bijoy infact requested him to hide it from sona ..
stop blaming bijoy for everything .
dev is useless now to get sona he is going to hurt other girl's heart .
when will dev learn to be a man up ...
bijoy is awesome father he stood by thick and thin for sona as a father he rocks he doesn't trust dev dixit and his mom because those ppl are not trust worthy .
dev wants sona because of soha and sona helped in ish case otherwise minus soha he wouldn't even care
mother and son are same there love depends accordingly ..
sona is loved because she helped ish to heal
sona gave birth to soha so now she is given respect
but love has no rules ..
dev threw sona out of the house not bijoy so ya blame bijoy he could have thrown her out then u might be happyšŸ˜†
ya dev has charms handsome even though he does had many gf in hotel room when sona and family were struggling to set there lives no matter what he does sona has to fall what has bijoy got big mouth which runs with high voice thats it and hyper at times righteous person who only thinks of his daughter well being what a sinful thing he has done šŸ˜†
Edited by rockstar.sj - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Dear Rockstar,

I completely respect your POV eventhough I disagree with you as well as can't appreciate the way you presented your views. You can always present your POV in a respectful way. Keeping aside what you said is right or not, To justify a fictional character you don't have to belittle or make fun of other fellow members views.

With love,
Your fellow forum member.
Edited by LiveLife321 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rockstar.sj



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seriously have u seen the show really ...
u cooked up ur version on bijoy asking sona to hide about business seriously i ask u too watch those episode yet again .
sourabh was the one asked her to hide not bijoy and sona didn't know dev helped unless it was open .
dev was never trust worthy .
bijoy is righteous from the start till now he preaches which he follows .
dev only used to play games hide things from wife and mom
if u have to blame its dev he always played safe and sona bijoy used to get stuck .
don't forget infertility track dev hid with both family but what happened ishwari blamed sona for cheating .
don't forget prenup dev asked bijoy infact requested him to hide it from sona ..
stop blaming bijoy for everything .
dev is useless now to get sona he is going to hurt other girl's heart .
when will dev learn to be a man up ...
bijoy is awesome father he stood by thick and thin for sona as a father he rocks he doesn't trust dev dixit and his mom because those ppl are not trust worthy .
dev wants sona because of soha and sona helped in ish case otherwise minus soha he wouldn't even care
mother and son are same there love depends accordingly ..
sona is loved because he helped ish to heal
sona gave birth to soha so now she is given respect
but love has no rules ..
dev threw sona out of the house not bijoy so ya blame bijoy he could have thrown her out then u might be happyšŸ˜†
ya dev has charms handsome even though he does had many gf in hotel room when sona and family were struggling to set there lives no matter what he does sona has to fall what has bijoy got big mouth which runs with high voice thats it and hyper at times righteous person who only thinks of his daughter well being what a sinful thing he has done šŸ˜†



"hide" and "lie"? not sure where that version of Bijoy or story came from. Bijoy has officially been made the scapegoat for Devakshi failed marraige by the makers. Real culprits mahaan šŸ˜† what a waste of an amazing story 😔
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: vibg



"hide" and "lie"? not sure where that version of Bijoy or story came from. Bijoy has officially been made the scapegoat for Devakshi failed marraige by the makers. Real culprits mahaan šŸ˜† what a waste of an amazing story 😔



That's what I say ppl hate bijoy seriously what has he done he stood like a rock to his daughter when dev threw sona out and dev made them homeless I mean Vicky did still he never tried to find out what went wrong dev never did anything to repair the relationship still ppl blame bijoy
I want to ask what has dev done good to sona were bijoy will send sona back
Sona mind is fickle she is physically attracted towards dev that's it but mentally not ready to go
Dev is never trust worthy has he assured sona that he won't do mistakes or will balance between mother and wife has he done that
He has selfish motive soha he wants her for himself and sona comes to pix otherwise mother and son won't even care
Such crappy script yet ppl defend dev and blame game on bijoy
What nonsense
If Asha has lost it why bijoy needs to lose his mind
Has dev find out gkb Vicky were involved has he punished them
What if same occurs in further will bijoy bare it
Sona is she ready for one more breakup
Did sona forget dev had random gf in hotel and how can she forgive him
A coffee shop incident with jatin made dev call sona characterless what if she had affairs will he except her the answer is never then why women needs to forgive

Edited by rockstar.sj - 8 years ago

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