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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi

@DRCS. Lets agree to disagree. For me both Dev and Sonakshi are golden hearted but are clouded by their loyalty to their parents. On the surface it does look like Sonakshi took independent decisions outside of Bijoy's influence or she was better than him. But not really. During the whole marriage phase whatever Sonakshi did was not exclusive of pride. Anything a person does in prideful state is not selfless. It might seem like they are doing a lot, but it is all for their greater good. Whatever Sonakshi did was ultimately to prove that she was the best choice for Dev to Ishwari. But her wish to prove to Ishwari itself is incorrect.

It is true that Sonakshi called Ishwari as "maa". But did she really treat her as that. Did Sonakshi really not differentiate between Asha and Ishwari. Would Sonakshi feel the need to prove Asha wrong if Asha had said or did what Ishwari did. I am in no way saying what Ishwari did was right, please do not take me wrong. I detest everything that Ishwari did or does. But it does not mean what Sonakshi did as right either.

Dev's falling in love with Sonakshi itself was a step against his mother. He decided to stay away from Sonakshi after she made him promise in that office. He might have said "hume alag hona hoga" in the heat of the moment, but was he really sure of those words, not really. In that whole time it was him holding on to their love not her which is once again going against his mother's wishes. On the other hand, Sonakshi was ready to forget Dev, marry Ritwick and move on in her life just because Bijoy said so.

It is true that Ishwari had a hidden agenda during the vrath. But the decision was taken by Sonakshi with her own hidden agenda. She did it to please Ishwari, something which Dev had not asked to do. she also took that decision without talking to Dev first or even thinking about him. If she was so sure that her decision was right, then why didn't she defend it when Bijoy questioned it. She could have clearly said that it was her decision and give Dev a clean chit. But Sonakshi did nothing of the sort. As much as she expected Dev to be the bridge between her and Ishwari, she should have been a bridge between Bijoy and Dev. But she failed to be so.

What happened during the birthday was very unfortunate. But her too Sonakshi was not 100% faultless. She could have told Ishwari or the family members about their decision to celebrate out. She was ok to reveal it to Bose family but not the Dixits, why. Why did she feel that she/they should hide it from Ishwari. It was one of those really really unfortunate occurance of life. He wanted to wait, but he was forced to do what he did. He is someone bound by guilt which Ishwari misused for her purpose constantly. This was something that Sonakshi knew. Instead of supporting him, she constantly did things which put Dev on the spot and he was forced to play the umpire. He was continously asked to either take her side or Ishwari's side. And most of the time, Dev took Sonakshi's side even though on the surface it did not look like that.

As much as Ishwari's influence was toxic on Dev, Bijoy's was/is on Sonakshi. The whole infertility and Shimla trip was a tragedy. I totally agree that Ishwari shouldn't have done what she did. But here Dev was as much as a victing as Sonakshi was. He was not in any better position than she. The news came as a shock and before anyone could actually understand what is happening, things had spiralled out of control. What Ishwari did at that time is the same as what Bijoy did yesterday. Hasn't Sonakshi proven her loyalty to Boses by walking out of her marriage 7 years ago. Yet Bijoy again asked her to prove her loyalty. Ishwari is the same. She did the exact same thing to Dev 7 years ago when she forced him to do what happened.

From my perspective Sona is no better than Dev. She is neither magnaimous nor has to be venerated for anything. I feel Dev as a much better person than her. The way I see is Sonakshi hurt a lot of people and caused a lot of mess in her quest for perfection. She failed to take into account the feelings of others and only kept expecting others to accept her decisions as the "right decision" for all of them. If she has forgiven them, then so has Dev. Sonakshi hurt him the most yet he hass forgiven her. This actually shows his greatness. Just because it is subtle doesn't mean it is not better. Sometimes looking beyond what is just visible to our eyes gives a better understanding of the situation.

This is my pov. Not intended to hurt anyone. If anything, please lets agree to disagree. 😃


I totally agree with all of the Shaavi. This is exactly the same way I interpreted the story too.

We call Dev out for not living up to his promises but what about Sona? Has she lived up to every one of her claims? If she can tell Dev that if you love someone you can wait for them forever. Well hold on.. why didn't she wait? Why did she rush into marrying Ritik? Its very easy to say these things but its very hard to live up to. If Bijoy had almost committed suicide over her relationship with Dev, would Sonakshi really have not questioned her relationship? I feel like Sona was expecting Dev to live up to principles that she herself wouldn't be able to live up to. But instead of realizing the flaws in her principles.. she would make Dev out to feel like a failure for not living up to them

When Dev and Sona argued about whether Neha and Ranveer should get married-- it was Dev who had to admit fault by saying he is a difficult man. But Dev had a very valid point about Ranveer's finances but Sona took it personally. I feel like had Dev been "allowed" to voice his concerns from the outset instead of being made to feel wrong-- it may have prevented Neha from going through what she did. But Dev never called Sona out on being wrong. Even when she interfered unnecessarily which caused the situation to blow up he never tried to change her. He saw her flaws in a positive light that her intentions were good. And that's what love is. But for some reason Sona was always trying to change Dev. She never accepted him just as he was.. warts and all.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi



I don't think that there will be any new girl in that remarriage track anymore. This prediction is based on Monday's precap and the hospitalization spoiler. My guess is it it will be Dev who will be hospitalized. The reason is Dev right now is under extreme stress and duress. Neither Ishwari nor Sonakshi are helping him in any way to reduce it. He has almost reached the breaking point and my guess is following his outburst he will end up in hospital.

His landing in hospital will serve as an eye opener for both Ishwari and Sonakshi. It is like "ek tree do nishana".

For Ishwari it will be like "yeh maine kya kiya". She will have no option but to accept her role and responsibility in Dev's suffering. Also this event will act as a reminder for the rest of her life never to manipulate Dev to fulfill her selfishness. Even if Sonakshi proves Ishwari innocent and Dev offers her the pedestal, I don't think Ishwari will ever accept it. She will look at the pedestal as though it is a hangman's setup. She will run far far away from it once the Khatri truth is out. It definitely will help her to mend her relation with Sonakshi and for them to understand each other better.

Sonakshi as mentioned in previous threads believes in transcendental love. She knows that Dev loves her and will do so forever even if he marries someone else. Meaning his love will always be for her. So she will not really be that worried with Dev's remarriage track. But if Dev is fighting for his life, then that will set Sonakshi panicking. She will then have to contend with the fact that she may lose him forever. That he may never come back to her. This is the one thing that can trigger extreme emotion in Sonakshi. Only when she will experience a jolt will she be able to break out of her shell. This will act in the same way as Sona Ritwick engagement acted for Dev.

KRPKAB CVs are too smart and awesome. They come up with such unique way of story telling. I am now eagerly waiting for the future story to unfold as I feel that we will see a side of Sonakshi whom we have not seen till now. Looking forward to Sonakshi's deewangi. 😆


Dear I like your prediction. As I am fead up of Ishu's Hospitalization and blackmail. By if dev get hospitalized then Ishu had to take the help of sona as dev is angry on Ishu mata and sona be the one who will be mediator for dev and Ishu. As You know Sona has given the photo frame of dev and Ishu on Ishu mata's bitrhday. And some how I feel Jatin and dev will become friends as dev is ok with the jatin's role in sona and soha's life.so jatin will help both of them. And for that girl from the family I think dev will consider her as sister and take care of her future as the girl look small. By this event Ishu will not accept sona but she will not try to interfere in dev's life.So she will not do any manipulation.And focus will get shift to soha, sona and dev. this will make mami and her red insecure.
Edited by timbarucha83 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Great discussions n POVs everyone 👍🏼
The last 7 yrs of separation taught sonakshi how to change a punctured tyre though nt driving . For dev, it taught to swallow the bitter truths n escape from reality . But the same last 7 yrs, didn make both learn how to mend a broken relationship, how to voice for themselves n how to make their only child happy ...strange naa ? V usually learn @ least something from failures. V learn gradually how to make our failure , a stepping stone to success. The long 7 yrs...it's indeed a lengthy time to understand the failures v had encountered in the past & it definitely give ideas as how to rectify those mistakes v had committed earlier. I'm feeling sorry that our protagonists r far too away from reality or they may b simply in their denial mode.

Dev overcame his fear of snakes jst to b with his daughter suhana. He said that the fear of going away from his daughter is more than his fear of facing a snake. The mere thought of going away from his daughter is like encountering his own death. He forgot all these n jst danced with the tune of his maa regarding his re marriage talks. But may b he was having this hope that sona will agree n they can b a happy family together.

Along with others , i too wish the precap dev ish encounter a reality. It's high time that ishwari shud realise her mistakes. Her "maine kya kiya " shud b changed to " yeh maine kya kiya ". During re marriage talks with dev, v saw ishwari saying "maine bhi kuch kiya "... chalo, @ least kuch toh admit kiya . Dev is already stressed n the encounter with the new family will definitely gonna shoot up his stress. He hav said that many times that he's nt @ all strong compared to sonakshi. "Sonakshi, tum toh strong n independent ho ! ( btw, writers hav dropped that feminist word from the script along with strong n independent ...😛 ) lekin mein aisa nahi hu ". He used to go after drinks to make him strong.

The hospital spoiler pics suggest either it shud b soha or dev hospitalised otherwise there's no need of both family members.Most probably it's dev but i hpe he jst nt follow his mother ..overdose sleeping pills drama. Dev being in hospital , sona can further investigate khatri bout ishwari truth along with jatin & dev ( shaheer ) can pursue his movie commitments . Ek teer se doh shikaar !!

@ shaavi ..u'r take on " tumhara " n dev ish , precap was fantabulous. U jst took me bak to one of those scenes wer shaheer nailed in that emotional scene n one of my favourite scenes of kuch rang.

The re marriage talks , i seriously don want to c it as a track, will act as an eye opener for sona. In everyone's eyes , b that bijoy or dev, sona is strong n independent & can face everything coming her way. During ritwick track, on her engagement day, wen ritwick was bout to put ring on her finger, sona was looking @ dev for an answer but dev cudn gav a proper one but ends up losing balance n fell down . Sona ran to dev , eventually breaking her engagement with ritwick. Wen she brought dev to IN, she told him that ,"u know dev, i can't c u like this. I tend to b strong in front of everyone, but i cant c u like this ". Her strength is dev actually , a strong dev . Once she sees him shattered, she looses her strength. She becomes weak. Sona understood that his mom is his strength n weakness. She told that to jatin wen they went to find out bout khatri. But sona hav to understand that the 3 most important people in dev's life, his mom, sona n their daughter...all 3 r his strengths as well as his weaknesses. Poor dev ! He only needs to put some outlines n boundaries to his relationships to mend all these 3 . But alas !! So far, he cudn ...

The re marriage talks with sona n dev.. Shaheer r erica.. it was mind blowing , stupendous performance!! I want to borrow sona's words today...it was Perfect ! Just Perfect !!! 👍🏼 It was subtle, composed n to the point. No drama , no yelling but it left us with a heavy heart n hurt mind... dil, dimag sab kuch flat !!! The BGM was too apt n v felt like as if v r experiencing an actual break up..( silly me ! 🤪) Sona's milestone ...ache parents ke saath, ache dosth ! Dev 's dosth was like as if he heard ghost !! 😆 Jokes apart, that scene reminded me wen sona came to c dev @ his office late night after that ritwick dinner date sponsored by dev & asked to make a promise that they will nt c each other anymore . Dev's " kya wadah " was similar to " dosth " as if he uttered those in disbelief. He didn want to face that reality. But since both r true to themselves, both needs some trigger to make their true self out , until then v've to bear this . I luv to believe in ture luv never dies. Luv is forgiving, luv is sacrificing, luv is forgetting, luv is adjusting but last but nt least luv is being with each other .❤️




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Posted: 8 years ago
he never tried to change her. He saw her flaws in a positive light that her intentions were good. And that's what love is. But for some reason Sona was always trying to change Dev. She never accepted him just as he was.. warts and all

@ malikakas

Exactly my point. Love story will become successful when both the partners co exist along with their flaws . Dev is noble to the extent of overlooking the flaws of both his mother and Sonakshi. Unfortunately Iswari and Sonakshi never acknowledge their part when things don't go well . They would like to pass on the failure to some one else.

Iswari 's famous line Maine Kya Kiya exposes her reluctance to accept her faults. Sonakshi on the other hand believes in transperancy in a relationship but fails to be transparent before Dev. She hides things as per her convenience even if it is not necessary. We can see the way she handled Khatri issue without sharing information with Dev. She still hides RR's and Vicky's unwelcome taunts from Dev. As a result Dev is always kept in dark regarding the situation in IN. Sona did the same in S1 and she is continuing it in S2

I feel sad thinking of Dev who was driven to the extent of getting hospitalised due to mental stress. Today being Mother's Day I wonder how two mothers became responsible for him losing out physically and mentally.

Iswari his mother hung the sword on his head by her emotional blackmail that resulted in him drifting apart from Sona forever.

Sonakshi,the mother of Soha did not think twice before getting ready to sacrifice her love for her father. Did she think about Soha at all?

If Sona hoped that Dev will wait lifelong for her by being single why did she support Iswari's warning to Dev?

Sona should have said let us remain single and be co parents. If she is transparent she would have . said that. But she did not object Dev when he indicated he needs a partner. So Sona like behaviour.

Is there a guarantee that a new girl if she becomes Dev's wife will let Soha get her father's love ? Will the girl tolerate Soha, if she gets her own children? Won't she raise objection to Sona's friendship with Dev? Ultimately Dev and Soha will suffer because of Sona's blind love for her father who is not different from Iswari in ruining three lives. Sona's Dev's and Soha's.

I say both the mothers did injustice to their children. On this occasion of Mother's Day I hope they realise and introspect. They should justify their motherhood by keeping the happiness of their children at the top. I wish and hope things will change for better.

Lakshmi


Edited by ltelidevara - 8 years ago
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I don't think Dev came to Sona with a proposal at all. They were both very clear on their stand. Dev wants to get together with Sona. But he agrees with her that, they are still not sure if they won't mess it up again. I saw a friend coming to another friend. Sona is his sounding board.
Dev asked her should he marry again? Sona asked him does he feel the need for a life partner and he said yes. She led him to the answer.

It's their equal responsibility to think about the promise they made to Soha. If Dev is happy to get married to someone else, sona can't stop him when he is clearly saying he needs someone to support and companion him. If she isn't prepared to be that person, how can she stop him?


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Posted: 8 years ago
Sonakshi failed to be the sounding board. Dev came to her to discuss and to know whether he can honour his mother's word or not. Yes. He admitted he needs a life partner. What is wrong with that? Sonakshi in season 1 accepted marriage with Ritwick may be for her father may be to show she could really move on in life. Her attempt failed,that is a different issue.

Dev stood at the same juncture now. He solicited Sonakshi's advice. He also confessed he could think of her only to share his thoughts and discuss. What did Sonakshi do in turn? She first admitted Iswari is so right in her place. Then she questioned Dev what he wanted. Dev said he needs a Jeevan sathi



Sonakshi should have discussed what could be the after effects for Soha if he gets married. As a friend and co parent she needs to do that. But she did not. She indirectly hinted Bijoy's displeasure also and Dev understood. Surely he did not come with a proposal. But in his heart of hearts he must have felt hopeful that Sonakshi would think about it or suggest they should take time to decide what should be done.

Dev's hospitalisation proves he remained the same , emotional and desparate in love. Only difference is now he doesn't want to trouble Sonakshi with his overpowering love.



Like Shaavi said Sonakshi will start introspection seeing Dev in hospital. She will feel the pangs of love and separation that is waiting at her doorstep either with his remarriage or with his collapse. I wish Dev overcomes this phase and emerge stronger even if he has to survive without Sonakshi.


Lakshmi





Edited by ltelidevara - 8 years ago
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I don't think Dev came to Sona with a proposal at all. They were both very clear on their stand. Dev wants to get together with Sona. But he agrees with her that, they are still not sure if they won't mess it up again. I saw a friend coming to another friend. Sona is his sounding board.

Dev asked her should he marry again? Sona asked him does he feel the need for a life partner and he said yes. She led him to the answer.

It's their equal responsibility to think about the promise they made to Soha. If Dev is happy to get married to someone else, sona can't stop him when he is clearly saying he needs someone to support and companion him. If she isn't prepared to be that person, how can she stop him?


i really don't think he was asking for her permission for him to move on.i just feel he would have waited for her if that's what she wanted.but Sona is not the kind to place such "unreasonable" demands from Dev. He can't withstand Ishwari's blackmail when he is is hearing a firm no from Sona. Isn't it same like Ritwick situation?

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@lakshmi-my point exactly. We all need emotional support and companionship. But Dev is too vulnerable to manipulations. As for Sona, like I said, there is conflict of interest. If she mentions soha, she could get labelled selfish. This is very similar to last 7 yrs. She brought soha once. And if she kept trying to contact Dev she didn't know how he will react. Trust only goes for so long. She is deflated. Dead inside. Nothing more to offer. That's why it's unfair on dev. But only he can pull this now.
@devakshi1- no he came for no permission. He didn't want Ishwari to pressurise sona. He came to his lover. When she refused (because of fear of failure), he asked him to be a friend and she told him all she could.

Sona is like a sleeping beauty now. The Prince has to come and rescue her. This is why the scene with Golu was important. Dev has have the confidence in sona's love (that she will come through and agree to marry eventually), just like Golu is confident in Dev's love. Sona needs time. Just like Golu gave Dev time
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Posted: 8 years ago
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How would Sonakshi be termed as sefish if she mentions Soha? Soha is their joint responsibility. I wanted their discussion to continue pertaining to Soha's interests. May be Dev expected Sona will do so and got disappointed. Remember ,Sona proposed Seven day stay for Soha only. She went to the extent of living under the same roof with Dev despite Bijoy's opposition. Then why can't she suggest that their decision should endorse Soha's well being,both physical and emotional.


Dev could have jumped at her initiation and supported her decision even if it makes him disobey his mother. At this point of time Dev is not vulnerable I feel. He may consider his mother's word but ultimately his concern for Soha will rule his thought process.

Unfortunately I witnessed the pain of children who suffered due to their father's second marriage. That is why I think of all the ways to avoid such torture for Soha and I can't help it.

Sona coming with baby Soha,you mentioned but till today I can't understand why she should come to IN without reaching up to Dev first. Surely for a smart Sona who could trace unknown families tracing Dev Dixit is the easiest I may say.

Lakshmi
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Posted: 8 years ago
It just strike my mind after again reading Shaavi's "tumhaara" post that Sona never read that letter.

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