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Posted: 8 years ago

As I was thinking about the iminent shift to Ishwari Nivas, and the week at Bose house that has just passed, I had an epiphany about the purpose of the leap. In S1, one of my biggest discomforts was the fact that no character on the show really seemed to question the patriarchal system. Even the most progressive voices on the show, Asha and Bijoy, simply accepted the fact that a daughter would one day have to leave her parents' house and live with her husband's family. Dev and Sona both claimed to want an equal marriage, but didn't really examine how Sona coming to live in Dev's house enforced inequality on their relationship by placing Sona at a disadvantage.


Soha and the leap form an excellent plot device through which Sona uses her biological privilege as a woman (as in, she carries the baby) to challenge Dev's social privilege as a man.


We have collectively identified Sona's weakness in her and Dev's marriage as the desire to achieve an executive position in the Dixit family immediately. I still maintain this view, but it begs the question of why Sona had to earn that place at all. She had an executive position in the Bose household, which she had rightfully earned. If she had to earn her place in the Dixit family, starting from scratch, it all came down to the fact that she was a woman who accepted a system that was disadvantaged her, based on her gender. It doesn't matter how welcoming or loving the groom's family is (that is a separate concern), a woman still has to put in extra work to adapt to a new family while the same is not expected of men in the system.


What is interesting to me is that the show is still not questioning this directly. Even after everything that happened, Sona still believes in raising her child in a joint family and Ronita is still moving in with the Boses after she gets married. However, the writers are bringing these questions to the fore now through Soha. Sona's biological advantage as the parent who carried Soha allows her to be secure in her place as Soha's parent in a way that Dev can't be. This advantage is exacerbated by the fact that Sona had the freedom not to make Dev part of their lives for six long years, and she could have easily continued in that vein had Dev not intervened of his own accord. By introducing this plot element, the CVs are forcing Dev to earn his place as Soha's father the same way Sona had to earn her place as a Dixit -- neither was fair and both stemmed from one partner failing to check their privilege.


Dev never thought about the fact that he wanted Sona, as an independent woman, to live in a house that was under someone else's name. With people like GKB and even Ishwari, money talks. It would have changed the equation completely if Sona and Dev mutually created a home for themselves and invited Ishwari to live there with them but that was not the case at Ishwari Nivas. To GKB and Ishwari's eyes, Sona lived under Dev's largesse just like them and it was therefore fair game to engage her in competition over Dev's wealth. Dev loved Sona's independence but he didn't really think through how this arrangement -- which he expected her to comply with even now -- would take a toll on the way she viewed herself.


Sona was equally responsible for not questioning the terms of their living arrangement before or during their marriage. That is what Soha, and Sona's exaggerated biological advantage have changed. Similar to Dev's home, over which Sona had no legal claim, Dev has no legal claim over Soha. Sona willingly entered a system that disadvantaged her in order to be with Dev in the only meaningful way she perceived -- marriage. Dev didn't question Sona's biological advantage because doing so could prevent him from being with Soha; he unquestioningly accepted the disadvantage of his position. But if we are to have an equal society, don't both of these inequalities need to be questioned? That is what I think this week at Bose house, and Sona's idea for this arrangement, kick started.


Sona's exercise of her biological privilege was a direct result of Dev exercising his social privilege, and story-wise, the latter had to be dealt with first. Dev's sojourn in the Bose house was all about dismantling male privilege, not just for Dev but for all the men in the household. Now that Dev had a chance to observe the Boses closely, their camaraderie and their solidarity, he has a window into why Sona couldn't approach relationships in the Dixit family with the cool detachment he had hoped to see from her. Sona may be independent and strong financially and professionally (which is the avatar he fell in love with), but she is heavily dependent emotionally on the validation and warmth of her loved ones. Similarly, Bijoy was forced, for the first time, to think of himself as others saw him, not just as he saw himself. This genuine questioning forced him to see Asha, Sona, and even Dev in a new light.


Even Saurabh and Jatin were forced to contend with new and complex situations. Saurabh reacted impulsively to Dev's alleged stealing and threatened to leave his home if Dev stayed there. He was brought back down to earth by Ronita, who followed him relentlessly until he agreed to listen to her. Jatin also had a fight of flight response to Dev's aggression; not wanting to fight him, he decided to run away from the complexity of the situation until Asha advised him to stick it out. Even Vicky began to feel the pangs of envy when he saw his son's relationship with Dev. Ever since the beginning of the show, men have been shown to see things in black and white while women see the greys. In this phase, the men were finally dragged into the grey area. Bijoy, Saurabh, and Jatin were each pitted against Dev as rivals, only to come to the realisation that it was so much more complicated than that; in none of their respective situations did it have to be either or. Neither does it have to be for Vicky.


In short, this week at the Bose house dealt with male privilege and Dev questioning his social advantages. I believe that the week at Ishwari Nivas will focus on Sona and the question of biological privilege. Apt, considering Ishwari's constant refrain: only a mother can understand a mother.


Disclaimer: This is a meta-analysis. I am NOT trying to say Sona is getting back at Dev through Soha, so please don't even go there. I am commenting on the clever dynamics of the storytelling, where they are using the leap and Soha to address some embedded beliefs in a very subtle manner.

Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Sam, This last post was mind boggling and something that really makes one think. 👏 👏 . A standing ovation to the post. It also brought too many questions with it.
It is true that Dev is now questioning his social privileges, but did he really take them for granted earlier. Was he not hurt that his mom loved him more than Neha and tried to make up for that in his own way as what he thought would compensate for that as he knew Ishwari wouldn't understand that. Did Dev also not wished to see his mom love Sona the same way she loved him even before Sonakshi's fake pregnancy.

Conversely it is true that Sonakshi is at an advantage of being the biological parent of Soha. But isn't Dev also a biological parent of Soha. Shouldn't he get similar privilege towards Soha and doesn't have to work so hard against all the insecurities that is being thrown at him. Isn't Sona constantly implying that he doesn't have a place in Soha's life, something that she shouldn't do.

Just trying to understand the story as well as relationships better. Thanks in advance if you are able to provide any insight to these thoughts. 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shaavi: So glad you enjoyed the post, and I am all ready for your questions!

Before I start, I want to clarify one thing. I don't think that becoming a feminist is a one-time thing. It's true that the definition of feminism is fairly simple; believing in the equality of all sexes and genders, but unpacking what that means, confronting our embedded misogyny, and continuing to learn how we can truly achieve that equality is a lifelong process. So while I do maintain that Dev was and is a feminist, there were still a lot of embedded beliefs that he had not questioned before Soha came into the picture and a lot that he still has to face.

The glaring one, and half the point of my post, was the assumption that if they were married/co-parenting, Sona would live with him in *his* house. To someone who has not questoned this belief, it seems silly when you make it about men vs. women (exactly Dev's reaction when Sona brought it up), but that is exactly why we use the word "embedded" -- you never consider why you make these assumptions, but if you look carefully, gender is the only explanation. Dev did realise this, checked his privilege and showed up at the Boses -- that is what keeps my faith in Dev's feminism alive. He is always willing to reflect and change when his embedded beliefs are pointed out. Most men never move past their initial, defensive reaction.

His actions towards Neha did not come out of a feminist sentiment; they came out of guilt for having monopolised Ishwari's love. That is why he never sought to empower Neha and treated her more like a victim than a survivor. If Neha had argued that she was treated differently because she was a girl, Dev probably would have taken Ishwari's line, that Dev was the most capable and so she concentrated her resources, financial and emotional on him. But let's think for a moment. What if the family structure was exactly the same, except that Neha was a boy. Would Ishwari have demanded that he take the same level of domestic responsibility? Would it have been as easy for her to 'choose' which child was more deserving of her resources? I don't think so.

Dev was feminist in the sense that he knew women could do anything men could, but he didn't know how to encourage or instigate that empowerment. When Riya came forward with the idea of working for his company, he knew how to handle it. When Neha expressed the desire to learn English, he tried to arrange it. So my point is, Dev believed in the equality of men and women and wholeheartedly supported independent women but didn't think how he could use his male privilege to further the cause. For example, he could have set up separate bank accounts/fixed deposits/trust funds for each of his sisters (especially Neha) so they could have their independence and not ask him for every little thing, but he didn't question the existing structure that the man being in charge of all of the wealth.

Sona was a breath of fresh air for Dev. She opened his eyes to new possibilities and gave him an aspirational vision of an equal marriage. But he had a lot to unlearn before that was going to be possible. He was used to a household where his every action was supported and he was never really held responsible. Look at Ishwari's reaction when he broke off the engagement with Natasha -- there were absolutely no questions asked. Dev didn't anticipate how much equality came with accountability. As an equal partner, Sona felt entitled to his thoughts, his honesty, and his explanations. Dev wasn't ready for this because of how he had been brought up -- as a man in a patriarchal household -- but the fact that he wanted it counts for a lot. So what I am pointing out is not his personal desires, but his inability to question and act against deeply entrenched inequality independent of an outside force. That is what I see changing now.

When I say biological advantage, I am referring specifically to the fact that the woman carries the child in her body. Most men cannot have this experience (accounting for trans men here). The father plays an integral role in conception, but then there is no getting around the fact that the child is physically dependent on the mother for the 9 months of gestation and then the nursing period. This is reiterated by the fact that artificial insemination is possible, but they have yet to find a viable substitute for the uterus. With their physical separation, this biological advantage was exacerbated and Sona took full advantage of that to put off telling Dev. The point I am trying to make, though, is that story-wise, Dev's social advantage is being challenged by Sona's biological advantage.

Dev's social advantage went through the ringer in Bose house (precisely because he accepted Sona's biological advantage), and now I believe it is time for Sona's biological advantage to face the same questioning. Does she really have inalienable/greater rights over Soha because she gave birth to her? She has been enjoying the benefits of her advantage (being able to make unilateral decisions for Soha) without questioning them, just as Dev did when Sona moved into his house post marriage. I think this time at IN will cause her to rethink what she took for granted, just as his time at Bose house did for Dev.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Sam...WOW...what a post ya...u and many other writers on this thread just amaze me so much with your depth of understanding of human nature, behavior, relationships, complexities and what not... Kudos to all you ppl...u ppl just add so much more to those 22 min of run time...

Now going slightly offtrack from all the serious discussions... Although I love the tashan and how the relationships and their realities are coming in the open...the romantic in me now wants a lollipop scene...its been too long since these two have done more than lock eyes (that also is just for few quick seconds)...
Ab chahe dream sequence, chahe daaru ka nasha, or some sudden hormones on action... I really want to watch a nice romantic scene...like a slightly long one... Isn't anyone else craving that ???? I'm sure atleast some would be...
I hv a strong feeling nothing will happen in todays first scene also...even though it has potential of some nice moments...but i don't think kuch zyada conversation hoga...

I hope someone is listening and we get a lollipop soon...my television watching loyal heart and brain need it ;)
Edited by taara113 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I absolutely loved Devakshi today <3
One step ahead of coming in terms of atleast mummy papa.

I have one question and would love to hear thoughts, analysis and decoding from the fellow members.

Devakshi convo was sane one and as i said i liked it. But after that Dev suddenly wakes sona n soha up and moves to Dixit house. If they have only showed him excited that would have been fine, but that monologue about Sonakshi, waking them up was too bizarre. Someone pls explain what exactly was it. I find that shift very peculiar.

Next when he asked ex GKB to do Soha's mom aarti, that was actually very nice and even the kitchen scene was good.

Ps- If anyone is in mood to vent out frustration and bash Dev for his mid night trip then pls don't quote this comment. :/ I am looking forward to some rational explanations.
Thank you.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Sam Di, what a wonderful analysis!
👏👏

So now that Sona has stepped into IN once again, we'll now see the unraveling of each member here, just like what happened at the Bose house.

I can't wait to see this.

I'm so glad to be a part of this wonderful show.

And this thread too.

So we've already started getting glimpses of the suffering Sona now. her robot facade is slowly washing away.

And I'm sure her experience at IN is going to rip her facade apart and every other Dixit's too.

What a treat this will be! ❤️


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Posted: 8 years ago
Episode was much mellowed and simple compared to what I imagined it to be..and infact the upcoming episodes look very promising
Highlights
Sona's hesitation in entering Dixit house with all good bad moments tushing back to her..her eyes were moistened heart felt heavy..every nook snd corner of that house has tons of memories for her
Dev taking duo to Dixit house at night..Though I am kinda confused why he did it so want yo hear from you guys..whst do you think..please explain me but tje scene wasnt that dramatic as precap suggested..also thd flickering lights kinda indicated the ups and downs light snd dull moments they will be having in Dixit house
Dev asking mami to welcome just like Doha but mami escaped saying Sona is guest..Hmm intersting how Dev addressed Sona as Ex bahu..well this is just the beginning we have alot yo come up
Next was Sona Elena moment..Nice yo see susters bonding and Elena sharing her feelings how she missed sona nd how becsuse of boys girls forget everything..sighh..I am hoping that elena can tell Sonakshi how Dev has been in past 7 years..This stay can be a boon for this ex couple * fingers crossed*
Dev remembering Sona's habbits was a pleasent moment "7 saal mein insaan badal jatey hain ye toh sirf ek kitchen hai",showed his concern regarding Sonskshi's stay and instructing PK
Vicky amd Mami dint surprise me as this was expected from them..But the kind of confident reply Sonakshi gavd withoit being too tude to her was nice slso PK instantly scting on her instruction indicated things will be tough of this son mothr team in future ..Also the kind of right she showed on Dev's room was unmistakable..which never hsppened 7 years back..interesting
Cvs very cleverly used Aliya's illness for her absense and also now the sbs segments makes a little sense to me..now the question is how will Dev soend time with Soha since he isnt allowed to meet her and ond thing smart thst Dev in this age if suffers from chicken pox , it will be quite painful for him
I am happy to see sonakshi standing up on her own in front of mami just lile Dev tackled Bijoy..She knows how these 2 are smd she is mature strong enough to handle them..so thats positive for me..Waiting to see Dev's role more now


Looking forward for you guys to pour in your thoughts..
My POV No offence
Edited by sjain - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Why pindrop silence here? Aftereffect of today's episode?
BTW, how many of you feel that the makers are gearing for a shutdown of the show, by June end, as reported by some newsportals ? I felt so because of the below reasons.
Showing illogical things by making Dev shift in the midnight, so that Team Dev people also will start asking to stop the show with a good note.
Supriya ma'am missing from such an important scene and the reason given is unconvincing.
The way they are fast forwarding the scenes.
The Maker's comment in today's article that he will not drag a show if he feels nothing more is to be shown.
The Season 2 of previous show of the same PH had only 110-115 episodes.

I don't want the show to end so soon...But feeling bad seeing the state of a show which used to bring smile to us.
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Posted: 8 years ago
^^Grace you didnt enjoy the episode ??
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: grace4317

Why pindrop silence here? Aftereffect of today's episode?

BTW, how many of you feel that the makers are gearing for a shutdown of the show, by June end, as reported by some newsportals ? I felt so because of the below reasons.
Showing illogical things by making Dev shift in the midnight, so that Team Dev people also will start asking to stop the show with a good note.
Supriya ma'am missing from such an important scene and the reason given is unconvincing.
The way they are fast forwarding the scenes.
The Maker's comment in today's article that he will not drag a show if he feels nothing more is to be shown.
The Season 2 of previous show of the same PH had only 110-115 episodes.

I don't want the show to end so soon...But feeling bad seeing the state of a show which used to bring smile to us.

Yash Patnaik rubbished rumours created by Spotboye.
Different teams have been asking different things but makers will show whatever they will have to. Remember slap gate incident? They stick with their decision. They are not gonna change story as per audience convenience.
We have seen fast forward episodes before also.
N SH closing is a different thing. It was bcz the channel itself was shutting.

Edited by cscs - 8 years ago

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