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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: areeba_blossom



One thing I loved about the sequence was the use of symbolisms in injuries sustained. Both, Dev and Sonakshi injured themselves on their one foot signifying that both of there grounds are shaky currently.
Dev, with him stumbling through the pain of Sonakshi's separation and the realization that his mother wasn't a goddess but a flawed human being with insecurities.
Sona, has been playing juggling on one leg in past seven years with her mountain of responsibilities and a child to bring up by being a parent and a friend.

Both are finding healing with a crutch they had lost seven years ago. Each other and a manifestation of there love in Soha.

The injury while appearing to be a minor scratch was actually much deeper. Dev's blood was oozing out reflecting him wearing his emotions on his sleeve still while Sona's sprain was more of an internal injury reflecting on her ability to mask perfection even when she is completely shattered from the inside. Both have unwillingly recognized that in each other as well because of which the bitterness and anger hovering over there emotions has faded quite a bit. It's going to be more challenging for Sona hereon forth since she won't reveal the amount of pain bothering her until probed by someone she trusts fully. -and it won't be Bijoy.


Wonderful analysis of the symbolism of Dev and Sona's injuries! 👏 I would like to add a few more things that I thought were significant.

Sona got injured because of her pride, and her insistence that only her way could be right. Dev was sabotaged by an insecure rival, because he was winning. In typical fashion, he chose not to retaliate or bring his perpetrator to justice (camp mein ye sab hota rehta hai = family mein ye sab hota rehta hai). Each of their fatal flaws so aptly represented as the cause for their respective, "matching" injuries.

In order to be good parents, both of them assured Soha, falsely, that their injuries were not causing them pain anymore. What's more, Sona said that it was "perfect, just perfect" because Soha had massaged it. This represented Sona's belief that Soha completed her life once she lost Dev, and healed all her wounds. In reality, there is much healing left to be done and only Dev can do it. As you pointed out, the degree of her pain is hidden by the internal nature of her injury -- only Dev saw that it was bad enough to knock her out.

Their reaction to the race showed the complementary nature of their parenting styles. Sona teaches Soha to be practical, understanding, and limit her risks. Dev, on the other hand, is all jung vo jeete hai jo maidan mein utarte hai! Take the plunge and deal with the consequences as they come. Dev, like you said, wears his feelings on his sleeve. He is not afraid for his daughter to know that he isn't invincible, and shows his pain without shame (he taught Golu the same lesson: mard ko dard hota hai). For him, it's more important that she knows he would do anything in his power for her, and apparently that message was effectively communicated. In her flashbacks, Soha remembered everything that Dev has done just to be able to spend time with her and that is when she identified her Papa.

This is where I love the continuing gender role fluidity on this show. Soha already has a hero in her mother -- that person who seems capable of solving any problem and therefore makes her feel safe and secure. That's why Dev wasn't getting anywhere with his hero-giri. Where he did make huge headway was in a more nurturing role -- taking care of Sona when she was injured both times, endearing himself to Soha through sweet gestures like the rose on Valentines day and their secret signal, and just being there for her no matter what. With him, she holds herself to slightly lower expectations where being reasonable is concnerned, because he's shown her that he isn't perfect either, and I think it was telling that her "unreasonable" request was directed at him. She knows Sona has explained everything to her, but maybe Dev is willing to do something that she isn't, just as he participated in the race when Sona couldn't.

Soha loves seeing her powerful mother in action (so much like her papa!) and Dev enables that strong Sona with his little acts of care. Dev has understood and embraced this role now, which is also why I think he had no problem taking repsonsibility for the failure of their marriage. Showing Sona's weaknesses would cause Soha a lot of emotional instability at a time when she is already dealing with a slew of new information. Dev, after his first impulsive goof up when he revealed his identity to Soha off the cuff, has been genuinely remorseful and interested in making this phase as easy for Soha as possible. Taking care of Soha's mother so that she can be the hero that Soha needs is a big part of that.
Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

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Thank you DQ. I rewatched it and I think you are right. He was kinda choked up!! 😲 . Maybe it's because Sona so easily compared them both to different flavors of ice cream and concluded that they could never mix. Poor guy!!! 😭 . I think he's totally giving up on Sona ever loving him again. . If SOJA marriage track ever comes up I think he'll be ready to let go 😭 . I'm down in the dumps now thinking about that scenario.
P.S : I know it won't go up to marriage but still I don't have to like it...

I didn't even feel like he was sad at her comparison. I just felt they were both so sad seeing what could have been and they are convinced that ship has long sailed. They were mourning their marriage
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Posted: 8 years ago
@areeba...that was an awesome analysis, especially your symbolisms on Dev & Sona's injuries...👏👏👏...Me too waiting to see Golu's reaction, when he knows that his Bigcha is going to live in Bose's house...It can be played in two ways; either based on Soha's promise to him, she can request Dev to bring Golu along with him. Or it can be played in a way as an eye-opener to Ishwari, on how Golu inspite of being so attached to Dev, lets him go for Soha's happiness.

@Sam...as usual your findings made areeba's post more convincing & beautiful...made me slightly emotional too...thanks for the same.

@Shaavi...reading your post on the probable upcoming tracks, for one moment, I was like...was their love so weak that they needed such repetition of incidents in their life, to understand the other person...Regarding Ishwari & Bijoy, yes...to make them realise about their faults, they have to pass through similar situations...But for Dev & Sona I am still 😕.

@Payalji...loving the examples you are giving in your posts now-a-days...samajhdar logon ko ishara hi kafi hai...😊

Enjoying all the other discussions as well.

BTW, I had a question from yesterday's episode...At the orphanage, Dev introduced Soha & Golu to the kids...but didn't introduce Sona; also it was shown Dev missed to get a pizza pack for Sona...and I feel CVs have shown it purposely...Can anyone explain, why it was so?
Edited by grace4317 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: grace4317

@areeba...that was an awesome analysis, especially your symbolisms on Dev & Sona's injuries...👏👏👏...Me too waiting to see Golu's reaction, when he knows that his Bigcha is going to live in Bose's house...It can be played in two ways; either based on Soha's promise to him, she can request Dev to bring Golu along with him. Or it can be played in a way as an eye-opener to Ishwari, on how Golu inspite of being so attached to Dev, lets him go for Soha's happiness.

@Sam...as usual your findings made areeba's post more convincing & beautiful...thanks for the same.

@Shaavi...reading your post on the probable upcoming tracks, for one moment, I was like...was their love so weak that they needed such repetition of incidents in their life, to understand the other person...Regarding Ishwari & Bijoy, yes...to make them realise about their faults, they have to pass through similar situations...But for Dev & Sona I am still 😕.

@Payalji...loving the examples you are giving in your posts now-a-days...samajhdar logon ko ishara hi kafi hai...😊

Enjoying all the other discussions as well.

BTW, I had a question from yesterday's episode...At the orphanage, Dev introduced Soha & Golu to the kids...but didn't introduce Sona; also it was shown Dev missed to get a pizza pack for Sona...and I feel CVs have shown it purposely...Can anyone explain, why it was so?

He did not introduce himself either and had no food for himself. It was a child led session I felt. And sona said hi to the kids.

It's always been the dynamics of their relationship. When they are with others, she is always his equal and unless she asks he let's her get on with it.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

He did not introduce himself either and had no food for himself. It was a child led session I felt. And sona said hi to the kids.

It's always been the dynamics of their relationship. When they are with others, she is always his equal and unless she asks he let's her get on with it.


DQ...as gt2918 pointed out, i also felt that it was not the first time Dev was visiting the orphanage...the way the kids were free with him, calling him uncle, forces me to think he was a familiar figure to them. Also, if it was for the first time, the authorities of the orphanage would have introduced them all to the kids, na?
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Danseuse



Suhana seemed like a 15 year old talking - excellent upbringing, I would say! So she would decide whether her parents would live together - irrespective. I wondered if such situations happened in real life. But, then, I consoled myself. This is a TV soap, after all. 😃


It's an interesting question. I know that in real life, such questions are certainly asked by children of divorced parents, and such demands are made. I went to boarding school, and some of my classmates, who had divorced parents, were there because they saw it as a healthy way out of choosing which parent to live with.

Sona and Dev indulging Suhana's demand is definitely a generous use of dramatic license, because they need the next contrivnance to force Dev and Sona into physical proximity so they can continue building romantic undercurrents. Although I recognise this, I still appreciate the way they are keeping very relatable situations and feelings at the base of their storytelling, and building the drama off that foundation.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Came across this writeup on Ishwari, which I thought of sharing. It's a one month old article; but still relevant in the current context.

(hyperlink is not working.It's going to some spamdomain...so, those interested to read it google for 'Why Ishwari Dixit Needs A Shrink & Soon')


I liked the last sentence very much which says "it's about time someone seriously thought about getting her some much needed psychological help"...which is what has to be done with Ishwari, at the earliest...because we all would have heard the saying: You can wake up a sleeping chap, but you cannot wake up the one who is merely pretending to be asleep...Now that Mamaji has failed in recognizing her thoughts as her insecurities, which is leading to her current mental state, we have no hope other than a third person, who can view things neutrally, to help her out...Is there a chance of makers using Jotin in that aspect?
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen


<font color="#ff00ff">He did not introduce himself either and had no food for himself. It was a child led session I felt. And sona said hi to the kids. </font>

<font color="#ff00ff">It's always been the dynamics of their relationship. When they are with others, she is always his equal and unless she asks he let's her get on with it. </font>



I think he did not introduce Sonakshi because he is not sure of the relationship they share. He introduced Golu as "mera bhatija" and Suhana as "meri beti". It looked like he had been there before and the kids knew him. They also saw that the other people there came with him who were introduced by naming a relationship with them.

He knows what Sonakshi to him. Maybe with people they know it is easier to talk about it. But with strangers that too kids, it is not easy. What I mean is how could he have introduced Sonakshi. He could have said, she is my friend, Sonakshi, my daughter's mother, my ex wife etc. But no matter what he called her, it would mean there was a relationship between them. Something which Sonakshi has been very strongly denying. She has been constantly telling him that they are strangers and there is nothing between them.

He did not want Sonakshi to say anything or show any negative emotion especially in front of Soha. He has resigned himself to what Sonakshi has decided. It has to be Sonakshi who gives their relationship a name, the "right" that she keeps saying Dev did not give her.

Just my POV
Edited by Shaavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Hi all 😊

I am yet to catch-up with this thread, weekdays have become very hectic . However I would like to share few quick observations from yesterday's episode:


This time around, Dev seems to understand when Sona needs help and extend help without her asking for it - eg. keeping painkillers, volunteering to repair that toy car, tying stick to her feet, supporting her to the room etc. However, it is too early to conclude this; the future episodes would tell more.


In the orphanage, Dev only introduced Suhana and Golu; and not Sona. And was the shortage of pizza intentional? I dunno.😕 (BTW, was that the same orphanage where KRPKAB fans made donation? Was the orphanage part a tribute to this effort?😊)


Also, the episode seemed a bit rushed, though I enjoyed it. I would have enjoyed it more if they showed how Dev and Sona felt travelling in the same car with changed dynamics. They have so many memories associated with car - good (khargosh moment, Shimla return etc.) and bad (Sona had found the pregnancy reports in the car, Dev's accident). Maybe they did not go into so much details because Shaheer had to go for his movie shoot, but they can show flashbacks.😉


Like Sona, Suhana is - kind, compassionate, intelligent and beautiful😳😊. But with Papa Dixit in picture, she is also slowly learning to wear her heart on her sleeve and demand her deep seated desire to see her parents together.


Sona is melting faster than ice.😆😉 Golu is a sweetheart, I don't want the child to feel insecure because of Suhana. Dev pays too little attention to him when Suhana is around.


I am very curious about Sona and Golu bonding. He seems to gush over his BigChi😳 (Suhana ki mom kitni beautiful hai na BigCha 😳😆). I want to witness a scene between Sona and Golu where Golu asks Sona cute weird questions. 🤣


PS: Guess what? I had posted this on last week's thread 🤣 Weekdays make me completely crazy 🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi



It has to be Sonakshi who gives their relationship a name, the "right" that she keeps saying Dev did not give her.

Just my POV


I agree with the relation part...But, could just introduced her as Dr.Sonakshi Bose, na?

Also it is to be noticed that Sona didn't feel awkward too with not being introduced...Like Team Sona, should I say he didn't give the due respect to her in that scene? 😛

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