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Originally posted by: WeRockTheWorld
He loves her but comes with unsaid controls and is possessive , selfish love...and when a person loves you selfishly then that love becomes a bondage and will want to break free..
Originally posted by: rock&roll
Interesting take...I especially loved the last part of Osho that u have quoted.Mature people do indeed rise in love because of their attitude towards love and due to the security and confidence that they have in their relationships.I don't believe that Ishwari can turn Soha around so fast.The kid is too mature and too heavily influenced by Sona to be turned around even in 10 years time.Ishwari might have turned her around if Soha had been born and brought up in the dixit mansion,but now,it is a next to impossible task.Sona knows this and though she is scared(like any mother) of what Ishwari will do,she is also confident in the upbringing and value systems she has given to Soha.I believe that both Sona and Dev are both unconditional in their love.I would not rate one person's feelings above the other.But Sona is a more mature person and thinks more clearly.This reflects in her relationships. Dev is more spontaneous and this too reflects in the way he handles his relationshipsSona's love for Soha is completely unconditional.(just like any mom).Dev's love for Soha is also unconditional.He is not imposing anything on her and is giving her space and time.If he was possessive he would behave like Ishwari(hell bent on making her Suhana dixit or get into a custody battle).However Sona and Dev's love for each other was never completely unconditional.That is why they split.Sona imposed conditions in her love too...pushing Dev to do his own work ,insisting that he call her mother as "Maa",her manner in handling the 5 crore issue etc .Not to say that Dev didn't impose conditions..He did too..And many more probably..but the point I am trying to make is that both imposed conditions.If their love was mature,they would have behaved very differently.Mature people express opinions and then back off by giving space and choice.If Sona had told him that she would like him to do his own work and talked to him about it and then backed off,that would have been maturity.If she had said that she was hurt and upset by him not calling her mother "maa" and then said that the final decision would be Dev's ,that would have been mature love.She was immature.So he forced,pushed and gave him ultimatums.That is conditional love. Dev did the same..He also pushed and gave ultimatums...Each of them believed that their actions were justified because they loved the other person and they were doing this for the benefit and improvement of the other person..But that is where they were wrong..Love is about acceptance and gentle nudging towards improvement while walking hand in hand.Pushing someone towards an action when the concerned person is not prepared or willing to do it is not love,it is conditional love.Both Dev and Sona put conditions,ifs and buts in their love...and to top it all they burdened their love with unrealistic expectations.Their love couldn't carry the weight of their expectations and was crushed before it could bloom.Finally...though I have huge sympathies for Sona and what she had to tolerate in the Dixit household,I do have a hypothetical question.If roles had been reversed and Dev had moved in with Sona,wouldn't Bijoy's behaviour have been almost as bad and intolerable?Wouldn't Dev have been subject to constant criticism and comparison to Bijoy(the perfect husband and dad?).Wouldn't Sona have been caught in a catch 22 between Dev and Bijoy?If push had come to shove what would she have done?And where would our sympathies lie then?😊
@Bold, I am not so sure. What exactly in Bijoy Bose's behaviour would have made it intolerable. Dev and Sona have an argument and ended at the Bose's house. What did Bijoy Bose do? Did he insult and throw his SIL away? Did he tell him he was better husband and father and Dev was useless? Or did he just say my daughter is a tough, go crack her, good luck!
I find it hard to digest that without seeing Bijoy's anger being a disruptive factor we seem to label him and categorise him alongside Ishwari.
What makes us ignore the fact that when they were on the streets, it was Asha who asked Sona to go and fight for her self respect not Bijoy.
Bijoy says things to his family in close doors but Sona is fully capable of stopping her father. Even today, Bijoy Bose did not march by himself to the Dixits, Asha and Saurabh went along too. Just because he is loud doesn't mean he is a bad father or a bad human.
He is a much better human than Mamaji. Does mamaji get away because he doesn't raise his voice?And if Dev had kept Soha away from Sona for 6 years,wouldn't she move heaven and earth for Soha to call her "Mumma"?Would that make her possessive or would that just make her a normal mother yearning for her child?😳
Of course anyone will. There is nothing wrong with what Dev is doing for Suhana. But not acknowledging the source of that joy is immoral.
I am a Hindu and I can tell you at a temple when the priest comes around with the aarti we put a coin on the plate; not because of charity; thats our way of thanking the priest for connecting us to God. In some temples, the quue is long, the priests shove us around, after all that when we reach the inner sanctum, we still thank the priest.
I find Dev's attitude hard to digest. I can sympathise with his frustration, with his anger but he can't treat Sona like she means nothing while Soha is everything.
Agree with you Nitu. Dev's love is unconditional. Not Sona's . I liked what Shavi said in her post. She is playing three roles.Bijoy's daughter Soha's mother and Sonakshi Bose.Dev's love has always been questioned at every stage but in my opinion Dev's love is unconditional and time and again he has proved it .If he has really fallen out of love with Sonakshi then I would say he is very hurt deep down but unfortunately among the two he is the one still in love with her .I would not say anything about Sonakshi's love as I find it difficult to understand her feelings for Dev .The Sonakshi we will see once she is back to Bose family will be different than the one in jungle.
Another observation , among the two Dev always had to fight for the love in his life .Today he has to prove to Suhana when he is not at fault .How many men prove their worth to kid before being called as Papa .I would not call it as possession.If he really wanted Soha to himself he would not have signed the papers but would have knocked the cour doors for legal visitation rights .
Sonakshi comes with her own baggage .She is too sensitive when it came to money and their position in society in S1 .Along with that burden to satisfy Bijoy Bose's false pride n ego made things worse for her .
Originally posted by: _Payalj_
Sonakshi is and will always remain an idiot in love. Even at the age of 36 she believes in fairy tales.
Dev loves Sonakshi and it is a fact which even Sona is aware of. That never was the point of contention. The problem was Dev never lifting a finger to protect his love and forever trying to appease mummy.So sona like am idiot would again let bygones be bygones and enter the Dixit madhouse.But the story would differ from season one in a few salient points :1. Sona will no longer try to win Ishwari's love or GKBs acceptance. They are going to get Shit in return of Shit.2. Dev was brought up with the notion that he is God's gift to humanity. He also had lots of money. So he had never imagined that he could be dumped. Even when he had asked Sona to get out he was hoping that she would come back and say sorry. Just see his expression in the scene when Sonakshi puts her foot out of Dixit house. That is also his main grouse till date. Mujhe chod diya.3. Now Dev knows that he is dumpable and will not repeat the same mistake of taking Sonakshi for granted.4. Howsoever beti jaap he might be doing somewhere in his subconscious he knows that beti ke saath maa free. Just wait for his expressions when he finds about Sohas condition. He will pat his back for producing such a smart child. He might do some nautanki in the beginning to save his ego though.5. It's not that easy for Ishwari to poison Soha against Sona. Soha has been born and brought up by Sona. She might get angry on Sona for a day or two but will start crying when the time comes for her to sleep. Poisoning would have been successful if Ishwari had access since childhood. Using Soha by her would further alienate and anger DevSo I think the future episodes are going to be enjoyable with Ishwari getting her dues. I know people will say that Dev should be punished first. He has already been sufficiently punished and is still being punished only. It is acceptance of mistakes by him that is needed and that will happen after the natal cord with Ishwari is fully cut
Dev's love has always been questioned at every stage but in my opinion Dev's love is unconditional and time and again he has proved it .If he has really fallen out of love with Sonakshi then I would say he is very hurt deep down but unfortunately among the two he is the one still in love with her .I would not say anything about Sonakshi's love as I find it difficult to understand her feelings for Dev .The Sonakshi we will see once she is back to Bose family will be different than the one in jungle.
Another observation , among the two Dev always had to fight for the love in his life .Today he has to prove to Suhana when he is not at fault .How many men prove their worth to kid before being called as Papa .I would not call it as possession.If he really wanted Soha to himself he would not have signed the papers but would have knocked the cour doors for legal visitation rights .
Sonakshi comes with her own baggage .She is too sensitive when it came to money and their position in society in S1 .Along with that burden to satisfy Bijoy Bose's false pride n ego made things worse for her .