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Posted: 8 years ago
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I really felt bad for Dev today that Sona and co wanted to protect Soha from him!
Ever since he has known abt Soha, he has shown only love! And he did not abondon her or Sona!
I also felt like smacking Bijoy! He conveniently forgot all the good things Dev did! If not for Devs efforts, Sona would be dead now!
Both of thm
Em have gone through a lot! And for Bijoy to enjoy still manioulating his daughter and grand daughter but yelling at Devs paternal love! Really bad! I blame Sona for giving tgis much right to her dad! The same if Dev does, then he is mummas boy! What logic?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I feel a lot of people on IF, myself included, don't really know the law surrounding custody cases. We all make assumptions based on what we read/heard/seen on TV, the internet etc. CV's might be in the same boat, or taking the easy way out without doing any actual research. I found a very informational read from a lawyer on another thread over the weekend. if anyone is interested in knowing the law/facts surrounding Indian Law, please do give it a read.


Credit goes to tejaswiniwenham.
I hope she doesn't mind me copying & pasting
when people talk about hard custody battles between sona and dev i feel like laughing SO hard. firstly, although indian law states that child born after divorce within 280 days of divorce are considered legitimate, there is still MUCH ambiguity with the different religious family court laws in the country. basically a child born post divorce could still be considered out of wedlock and the father in that case stands zero grounds for full time custody unless the mother decides to name him as the child's legal guardian and then abandons the child. in fact sona was also under 0 legal obligation to inform him of a child post divorce as she was a single mother and financially capable of raising her child in a stable home.

even in the case that the child is considered "legitimate", a father would pretty much never get custody in accordance to the hindu family act if the child is female. fathers would not even be able to claim custody before kid is five and he would need to prove that living with him would significantly improve the child's well-being financially...which it wont. he cannot claim custody just on the basis of not having character defect and love for his child. especially if the child has been raised in a financially sound happy and safe environment then his case may not even be entertained in court and sonakshi could ask for a dismissal following the child's counseling which would determine if she was happy or not. court does NOT care if sona had or had not informed dev about the birth of a child after divorce.

basically dev stands zero grounds in terms of custody and it is actually FAVORABLE that sona never remarried in terms of custody. its sexist but apparently it shows commitment. in terms of providing a stable home- dev has been busy developing a careful bad boy image with an affinity for changing sexual partners and drinking over the six years whilst sona has built up a very successful start up. who do you think gets custody if this was even a contestable case? FYI- i am a licensed lawyer in 3 countries including India.

so yes, tv show custody cases are stupid. short of really bribing the judicial system and i mean severe blatant bribing that would make the judge not even try to seem fair and disregard every evidence, which is again much harder to do in family court cases where both parents are rich than in criminal court, dev will not be winning any custody. so yes, whilst im glad he isnt plowing his way forcibly into soha's life, he also just has 0 other options considering the fact that krpkab is a marginally more realistic show than most on tv.

so given the situation, i do think sona is legitimately much more concerned with dev forcing himself onto soha's life and ruining the stability. as a mother i believe its good to have both parents' love for a child but stability is much more important and with dev constantly behaving erratically at the behest of his mother's whims and the family's bipolar treatment of the child's mother, post divorce it wouldve been impossible to maintain civility and stability in the child's life. maintaining stability also means that u dont just interrupt a child's routine to push her into a relationship she doesnt quite understand, just cos dev wants it. he needs to grow the hell up and think soha before his petty haq and silly competition with sona. if he cant even bow down to sona for soha then he cant do much for her at all can he. his ego is even bigger than soha. log apne baccho k liye jaan de dete hain, hes not even prepared to give sona due courteous respect for soha's sake. nor her nana nani. so dev is hardly a good parent for a stable life.

i grew up with my mother from the age of 5 and my brother from -6 months old cos our parents divorced and we only saw our dad once in a year during summers. we grew up to b 'normal' highly functional adults. i HATE it whenever someone talks about the importance of having both parents' involvement for normal growth. both parents is wonderful but one responsible and loving parent is all you actually need for 'normalcy'.

sona's concerns are all pretty freakin legitimate. we can all argue that oh ishwari did this and that but dev still chooses to live with her and in making said choice he endangers soha's stability. moreso, living with dangerous criminals such as vicky, he endangers her life. he seems to know about vicky's illegalities and fraud and still ignores it.

sona's decisions make A1 sense to me as a mother. and now that soha is past 5, she (as the court would) decides what will happen. she has full freedom to and she did. she doesnt want to establish papa before trust. thats normal. not something sona put in her head. soha actually did not wanna meet her dad cos she is just fine and happy in her life and didnt wanna take the off chance that her dad disappoints. thats not hard to understand. we are all afraid of the unknown. and believe it or not most of us single parent children are tots fine with it. tv media should stop showing bullshit about how we are emotionally problematic. its society who is more bothered by our "plight". we are not.

id read the forum's outrage on her allowing a small kid to take her own decision and emotionally pressure her to not wanna meet dev and all...well that just a) legally speaking a normal procedure. stability is important well into the teen years but our judicial system recognizes children post 5 to be able to understand their own happiness and stability. post 9 the courtroom decision is majorly based on what the child wants irregardless of other factors. and b) sona in no way ever pressurized soha not to meet her dad in anyway that the court would understand as 'influencing'. she did not malign dev at all.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mehraan



Dear urthoughts are always bang on..N i have been harping in all posts today as to why i feel this contract thing is not right today...n not done by Sona...Wat infuritiates me further is the declaration thing that Dev is held responsible for being away from his kid for 6 yrs n he takes the sole blame for it!

I dunno but i want the end of this Im RIGHT N PERFECT attitude ...For me both are r responsible for their breakup n they shown
OWN it up!



Even I am unable to understand this sudden change of situation where Dev is blamed for not being there for Soha for 6yrs .Dev is the victim who was kept away fromSoha .I can only think its CVs who are stressing it's Dev's fault .I won't be surprised if they play with his character like they have always done .

Count me in ..I am unable to relate to this prefect word used so easily used in the show .The were 2 people who were responsible for this breakup but I only see one being blamed and other one being ignorant of her role in the whole mess

To be honest I cannot relate if they show Devakshi romancing after all this mistrust , contact tracks .
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@YY very well put..BINGO


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy



Even I am unable to understand this sudden change of situation where Dev is blamed for not being there for Soha for 6yrs .Dev is the victim who was kept away fromSoha .I can only think its CVs who are stressing it's Dev's fault .I won't be surprised if they play with his character like they have always done .

Count me in ..I am unable to relate to this prefect word used so easily used in the show .The were 2 people who were responsible for this breakup but I only see one being blamed and other one being ignorant of her role in the whole mess

To be honest I cannot relate if they show Devakshi romancing after all this mistrust , contact tracks .





Please explain how was Dev suppose to kow ki Sonakshi pregnant hai..inspite of the fact that she was medically unfit for pregnancy and had only 7 % chances..agar her getting pregnant itna normal hota then woh kab ki pregnant ho jati..and Dev koi mahatma nahi hai that suddenly randomly he will get this thought of Sonskahi's pregnancy post seperation..huh


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sona has experienced worst in her married life knowing dev and ish she couldn't take risk .
Dev is highly emotional and ish good player with his emotions they are great team when destroying lives of others .
When dev can maker her jobless , homeless and threw her out snatching soha is not big thing for him and his mom.
Mother and son are always a team nothing changed they blame sona for everything.
Ish made prenup to secure the property of her daughters but sona wants to protect soha from emotionally blackmailed / manipulation from the duo .
She doesn't want soha to get confused and hurtful she doesn't want what she had to face 7 yrs back .

I don't understand why cvs brought this when we had prenup as a weapon we will get to know later .
But this weapon was needed for sona so that ishwari is in her limits .
I feel sona did was to protect soha from dixits family more than dev .
Because she knows dev won't intentionally harm soha but his mom would and her separation was due to his mom twisty brain not dev directly his anger made things worst and sona failed to control the situation she couldn't take the insult which dixits put her bose family .
The situation went out of reach from both side dev side and sona side too so to avoid such situation these papers was the best thing sona did .
Trust me dev will be thanking her later because he will get to see real ishwari and dev will stand for the rights and fights for soha for sure and later he might sort out things with sona too try to understand her better respect from both sides that's when soha will Adress him as papa I feel devakshi might in fact win there quest this time .
Some times these papers will in fact act like a boon to the couple .
Trust me even dev will support sona in fighting for the rights for the first time in his life .
Dev is emotional with his mom and fears if he takes a stand ish will lose it and her health won't support her so he keeps mum and ish knows that so she is cashing on it but time will come were dev will say enough is enough that's when we might see improved dev .

Only one blunder which dev did was he could have contacted sona at least as a friend otherwise he would have been happy .
When sona could forget everything and come back why didn't he try to know her were about its unlike him hope to see a twist there too
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sjain





Please explain how was Dev suppose to kow ki Sonakshi pregnant hai..inspite of the fact that she was medically unfit for pregnancy and had only 7 % chances..agar her getting pregnant itna normal hota then woh kab ki pregnant ho jati..and Dev koi mahatma nahi hai that suddenly randomly he will get this thought of Sonskahi's pregnancy post seperation..huh




I cannot buy this reason that Dev was at fault for not checking on Sonakshi if she got pregnant after the breakup .Even the normal couple without infertility problem won't think in that way .How insensitive it would sound if Dev had asked Sonakshi if she got pregnant after their Shimla night when he knew she had less chances to conceive .If that showed that then there would another uproar that he is treating her as baby making machine so he wants to check if Shimla night worked .

Due to biological reasons , it becomes women responsibility to let the father of the baby know about the baby.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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🤣 what a way to justify dev .
Forget the pregnancy as a friend he could have contacted her or he has detectives right
Forget that too he couldn't even dig in to the matter when Vicky lied that day when bose family was made homeless .
Ok forget about sona but as a human being did dev even enquired about bose family no he was busy flirting with women in hotel to show he is cool and ride a bike and show some attitude to ish that's it .
This is not dev we knew he was sensible man who after doing blunder would correct his mistake but this wasn't his mistake he didn't even investigate why gkb and Vicky lied .
Ppl find wrong and flaws with sona but can't even reason out these questions.
After all this ppl expect sona to be liberal when ish gives warnings that she will snatch soha even dev gives such warnings what should sona do " ajao dixits take soha away I will give rasgulla to u be my guest"
😆 seriously u ppl don't even like sona as strong women u like her as punching bag to dixits like Elena right
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lol...even stalking is encouraged now ...good ..oh he wasbadly trashed and called names when he stalked her during first breakup ..now he is blamed for not stalking after second breakup ...

Definition of strong women is putting wrong allegations and manipulating the other to get signature.Oh I would anyday prefer a normal women over such strong women


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: idreamy

I feel a lot of people on IF, myself included, don't really know the law surrounding custody cases. We all make assumptions based on what we read/heard/seen on TV, the internet etc. CV's might be in the same boat, or taking the easy way out without doing any actual research. I found a very informational read from a lawyer on another thread over the weekend. if anyone is interested in knowing the law/facts surrounding Indian Law, please do give it a read.



Credit goes to tejaswiniwenham.
I hope she doesn't mind me copying & pasting
when people talk about hard custody battles between sona and dev i feel like laughing SO hard. firstly, although indian law states that child born after divorce within 280 days of divorce are considered legitimate, there is still MUCH ambiguity with the different religious family court laws in the country. basically a child born post divorce could still be considered out of wedlock and the father in that case stands zero grounds for full time custody unless the mother decides to name him as the child's legal guardian and then abandons the child. in fact sona was also under 0 legal obligation to inform him of a child post divorce as she was a single mother and financially capable of raising her child in a stable home.

even in the case that the child is considered "legitimate", a father would pretty much never get custody in accordance to the hindu family act if the child is female. fathers would not even be able to claim custody before kid is five and he would need to prove that living with him would significantly improve the child's well-being financially...which it wont. he cannot claim custody just on the basis of not having character defect and love for his child. especially if the child has been raised in a financially sound happy and safe environment then his case may not even be entertained in court and sonakshi could ask for a dismissal following the child's counseling which would determine if she was happy or not. court does NOT care if sona had or had not informed dev about the birth of a child after divorce.

basically dev stands zero grounds in terms of custody and it is actually FAVORABLE that sona never remarried in terms of custody. its sexist but apparently it shows commitment. in terms of providing a stable home- dev has been busy developing a careful bad boy image with an affinity for changing sexual partners and drinking over the six years whilst sona has built up a very successful start up. who do you think gets custody if this was even a contestable case? FYI- i am a licensed lawyer in 3 countries including India.

so yes, tv show custody cases are stupid. short of really bribing the judicial system and i mean severe blatant bribing that would make the judge not even try to seem fair and disregard every evidence, which is again much harder to do in family court cases where both parents are rich than in criminal court, dev will not be winning any custody. so yes, whilst im glad he isnt plowing his way forcibly into soha's life, he also just has 0 other options considering the fact that krpkab is a marginally more realistic show than most on tv.

so given the situation, i do think sona is legitimately much more concerned with dev forcing himself onto soha's life and ruining the stability. as a mother i believe its good to have both parents' love for a child but stability is much more important and with dev constantly behaving erratically at the behest of his mother's whims and the family's bipolar treatment of the child's mother, post divorce it wouldve been impossible to maintain civility and stability in the child's life. maintaining stability also means that u dont just interrupt a child's routine to push her into a relationship she doesnt quite understand, just cos dev wants it. he needs to grow the hell up and think soha before his petty haq and silly competition with sona. if he cant even bow down to sona for soha then he cant do much for her at all can he. his ego is even bigger than soha. log apne baccho k liye jaan de dete hain, hes not even prepared to give sona due courteous respect for soha's sake. nor her nana nani. so dev is hardly a good parent for a stable life.

i grew up with my mother from the age of 5 and my brother from -6 months old cos our parents divorced and we only saw our dad once in a year during summers. we grew up to b 'normal' highly functional adults. i HATE it whenever someone talks about the importance of having both parents' involvement for normal growth. both parents is wonderful but one responsible and loving parent is all you actually need for 'normalcy'.

sona's concerns are all pretty freakin legitimate. we can all argue that oh ishwari did this and that but dev still chooses to live with her and in making said choice he endangers soha's stability. moreso, living with dangerous criminals such as vicky, he endangers her life. he seems to know about vicky's illegalities and fraud and still ignores it.

sona's decisions make A1 sense to me as a mother. and now that soha is past 5, she (as the court would) decides what will happen. she has full freedom to and she did. she doesnt want to establish papa before trust. thats normal. not something sona put in her head. soha actually did not wanna meet her dad cos she is just fine and happy in her life and didnt wanna take the off chance that her dad disappoints. thats not hard to understand. we are all afraid of the unknown. and believe it or not most of us single parent children are tots fine with it. tv media should stop showing bullshit about how we are emotionally problematic. its society who is more bothered by our "plight". we are not.

id read the forum's outrage on her allowing a small kid to take her own decision and emotionally pressure her to not wanna meet dev and all...well that just a) legally speaking a normal procedure. stability is important well into the teen years but our judicial system recognizes children post 5 to be able to understand their own happiness and stability. post 9 the courtroom decision is majorly based on what the child wants irregardless of other factors. and b) sona in no way ever pressurized soha not to meet her dad in anyway that the court would understand as 'influencing'. she did not malign dev at all.



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I highly recommend everyone who visit this post to please read it. Thank you idreamy and tejaswiniwenham for enlightening us on the legal proceedings and your own thoughts/opinions/views. 🤗

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