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Posted: 8 years ago
#51
If I say Soha's attitude towards Dev was not ok,then I would be wrong. Here Dev was at fault.He can't take away the child without informing her mother.He should have asked Sona before .
I don't want to talk about Bejoy .How can you talk to your own son like that? And then blaming Saurabh for everything.This man.
Dev barging in to Soha's room .This is not acceptable. So guarantee was required and there's nothing wrong .
But putting all the blame on Dev is also not done.
Just like Ishwari used prenup docs against Dev Sona ,which became one of the cause of their separation, Sona can also use these papers against Dev and Soha.Sona can emotionally blackmail Soha by showing these papers.
Another ishwari in making.
I was ok with whatever Sonakshi was and is doing with Dev.But after watching the segment where Dev and Sonakshi are dancing in the rain, I am finding her cheap.
This is expected from Dev as this is how he is but what the hell Sonakshi is doing with a stranger.
If Dev a stranger for Soha then he is also a stranger for Sona too.
I am not going to enjoy the picnic track , I m sure .I can't see a mother of 6yr old kid dancing with a Casanova.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Conversely Dev and Bijoy were the two most important men in Sonakshi's life. During married time did Sonakshi ever give Dev importance over Bijoy. In other words was Dev ever the most important man in Sonakshi's life after the initial breakup.
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Golden words. After the initial break up she hardly gave importance to Dev ever. Final blow was the slap issue where Sonakshi failed to even listen to Dev and Ofcourse the prenup issue that proved how much trust she can place in Vicky rather than her own husband.

Yesterday's episode again showcased how hopeless and intrusive Bijoy is as a father. And he is the role model father for Sona and unfortunately for Soha too.

Sonakshi's attitude and the way she twisted the fact in the contract papers proved that she is another Iswari in the making. Miss Sonakshi Bose has no guts to accept that she is the reason for hiding Soha's truth. I know Boses always love to preach but won't practice. If Dev entered Soha's room through window he became a bad father for Sonakshi. But did she atleast for a minute think before making Dev responsible for hiding Soha's identity?

Sonakshi you really proved your self worthy to be Iswari's daughter in law.

The way Dev signed the papers without caring for anything once again proved he is a good father and the best father in the making. Come what may he will win his daughter's heart and make her smile,jump,scream,cry,dance...everything that she missed till now. Certainly parenting by Copy Book Style will get defeated by parenting with love,that won't be restricted by principles,inhibitions and not to forget trade mark Bose family preachings.

Yaa I want to add Sonakshi surpassed Iswari in self indulgence.


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Posted: 8 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: coolmeet

If I say Soha's attitude towards Dev was not ok,then I would be wrong. Here Dev was at fault.He can't take away the child without informing her mother.He should have asked Sona before .

I don't want to talk about Bejoy .How can you talk to your own son like that? And then blaming Saurabh for everything.This man.
Dev barging in to Soha's room .This is not acceptable. So guarantee was required and there's nothing wrong .
But putting all the blame on Dev is also not done.
Just like Ishwari used prenup docs against Dev Sona ,which became one of the cause of their separation, Sona can also use these papers against Dev and Soha.Sona can emotionally blackmail Soha by showing these papers.
Another ishwari in making.
I was ok with whatever Sonakshi was and is doing with Dev.But after watching the segment where Dev and Sonakshi are dancing in the rain, I am finding her cheap.
This is expected from Dev as this is how he is but what the hell Sonakshi is doing with a stranger.
If Dev a stranger for Soha then he is also a stranger for Sona too.
I am not going to enjoy the picnic track , I m sure .I can't see a mother of 6yr old kid dancing with a Casanova.



Are you trying to put down Sona or Dev here? 😉
I think you are missing a very relevant point from yesterdays episode - The conversation between Sona and Asha. Sona made him sign up the papers to safeguard their daughter from Dixit household because Dev is impulsive and emotional wreck in the hands of his mother until now - she is no Ishwari in the making because she didn't mislead him or used emotional blackmail as a tool.
I can sense sexism is your last line in bold. Request you to please adjust it, if you didnt mean it in the way it appears. Mother of 6 year old dancing with a casanova is offensive for both - mother as well as casanova. No point demeaning these roles of real life. Each to his own.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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March 06, 2017 - Monday

The coming episodes are going to be game-changers - Saurabh taking Bijoy head on, Sonakshi getting a legal document before sending off Suhana (Totally unnecessary!), Elena coming out of the closet, Dev calling Bijoy as 'Baba', Ronita getting introduced to the Bose family (from the outside) and the pre-cap where Suhana refuses Ishwari point blank.

I gave a thumbs up to Elena standing up for her son Golu, her BIL Dev and her sister Sonakshi. 👏 Finally, after seven years, she decided to give Vicky a piece of her mind. Well done! So the Creatives are trying to make it clear that Elena could have left the Dixit Mansion before, but decided not to, only for Golu-Dev. That's nice. I wonder what would happen if Vicky makes any drastic move against Suhana???

I give a thumbs down to Bjoy and Sonakshi. Bijoy for again treating his son Saurabh w/out any respect and refusing to understand the point he was trying to make. Sonakshi for making an agreement to ensure that Suhana is not snatched away from her. I think this is not the protective mother any more. Its more about her ego and her reason to show herself in a supreme light in front of her family. "I can handle Dev" appears to be her mantra now! From Sonakshi's perspective, she has seen Dev in a hotel room with Shruti and his temper continues to be his weakness, but this agreement is not for Dev, it is for Ishwari. The threat that she conveyed to the Bose family when she walked out, still hangs in the air. Sonakshi is now scared of Ishwari. 😃 Sonakshi does not know that Ishwari's weapon is her son Dev, but Dev has since changed. She did not see the father who was willing to do anything to be close to his princess. Way to go, Dev.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sia.krpkab



Are you trying to put down Sona or Dev here? 😉
I think you are missing a very relevant point from yesterdays episode - The conversation between Sona and Asha. Sona made him sign up the papers to safeguard their daughter from Dixit household because Dev is impulsive and emotional wreck in the hands of his mother until now - she is no Ishwari in the making because she didn't mislead him or used emotional blackmail as a tool.
I can sense sexism is your last line in bold. Request you to please adjust it, if you didnt mean it in the way it appears. Mother of 6 year old dancing with a casanova is offensive for both - mother as well as casanova. No point demeaning these roles of real life. Each to his own.



Putting down?
Nahi...I guess I am really confused about the track this time.
On one hand Cv's show how bad Dev is and on the other they show Elena comparing him with Vicky .
Yes to some extent I agree with you as Sona insisted Dev on reading the papers whereas Ishwari took his sign without letting him know.

My point is if Dev is a stranger for Soha as claimed by Sona then isn't Dev a stranger to Sona.

(I m talking about Dev Sona only)

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Posted: 8 years ago
#56
Sorry everyone for being absent but had some personal exigencies.
Coming back to the show, I think it is moving towards a track where even Bijoy will be shown the mirror and made to realise where he has gone wrong . His karma of always humiliating his son and differentiating between his children is going to bite him very soon.

No wife tolerates such insult of her husband, no man likes to be insulted thus in front of his inlaws. Most probably saurabh will go and start staying with his inlaws.
Then for bijoy will come the time to practice what he preaches. Only then he will understand Dev's perspective . I am not defending Dev here because both Ishwari and Dev were at extremes and wrong. there is no doubt about it, but bijoy was no less with his rigidity and false pride and only aggravated the bad position.

If he had for at least once set aside his pride, then the situation would have been different. For example after the slapgate, if instead of being worried about his personal insult, he had thought only as a concerned father, called home a scared and subdued Dev and asked him to guarantee his daughters happiness, security and respect in Dixit house, he could have moved mountains. Dev at that time would have taken firm steps (including financial guarantee) to ensure Sona's well being.

But then for bijoy his pride always exceeded everything. Therefore, obviously when the entire gaggle of elders was even more immature and self centered than their children, then it had to become a tamasha. And that is what Devakshi married life became.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Payalj_

Sorry everyone for being absent but had some personal exigencies.

Coming back to the show, I think it is moving towards a track where even Bijoy will be shown the mirror and made to realise where he has gone wrong . His karma of always humiliating his son and differentiating between his children is going to bite him very soon.

No wife tolerates such insult of her husband, no man likes to be insulted thus in front of his inlaws. Most probably saurabh will go and start staying with his inlaws.
Then for bijoy will come the time to practice what he preaches. Only then he will understand Dev's perspective . I am not defending Dev here because both Ishwari and Dev were at extremes and wrong. there is no doubt about it, but bijoy was no less with his rigidity and false pride and only aggravated the bad position.

If he had for at least once set aside his pride, then the situation would have been different. For example after the slapgate, if instead of being worried about his personal insult, he had thought only as a concerned father, called home a scared and subdued Dev and asked him to guarantee his daughters happiness, security and respect in Dixit house, he could have moved mountains. Dev at that time would have taken firm steps (including financial guarantee) to ensure Sona's well being.

But then for bijoy his pride always exceeded everything. Therefore, obviously when the entire gaggle of elders was even more immature and self centered than their children, then it had to become a tamasha. And that is what Devakshi married life became.



You maybe correct in that the CVs might paint a negative picture of Bijoy and I will find that hard to digest. As it stands today, I think Bijoy is an ordinary father, pretty realistically portrayed. Why he chooses to treat both his children differently is just because every parent knows - different strokes for different folks. All children are different, their needs are different. We can try and bring them up with similar values but their age, school, friends and hormones will have the ultimate impact. Was Bijoy wrong yesterday - in hindsight yes but at that moment, his worry for his one child was more than the other and he did what he did. Without being right most times, he couldn't have brought up such lovely children and for that I think we should not judge his parenting skills.

Did Bijoy take slapgate as his personal insult? Of course he did. Should he have put that aside and been asked Dev for his daughter's happiness? Pragmatically, no! Why would I want my dad to speak to my husband about my happiness putting aside his humiliation? What does that say of my husband? What does that say of me? So, no Bijoy did the right thing.

Actually at the slapgate incident you know what could have helped - if Ishwari managed to put aside her disappointment with her son and said "Dev, yeh tuhne kya kiya. I am sorry Bijoy, baisahaab. I am sorry my son hurt you. This is not the sanskaar I have given my child. Lets sit and talk this through."

This is the world today, isn't it? We are easy to accept someone who under performs and write them off but with someone who is performing well, we always expect more!!

The only way out for the Dixits was to take the money from Sona and then hope to build the relationship. You can't knock a person down in the name of money, slap them and then expect them to be the wiser one with a big heart. Sorry absolutely not!

Bijoy is the dad your average Indian family lacks. If every father of a daughter is like Bijoy, there will be no husband abusing his wife incidents or even families abusing their DILs in India.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: jigsaw1234



You maybe correct in that the CVs might paint a negative picture of Bijoy and I will find that hard to digest. As it stands today, I think Bijoy is an ordinary father, pretty realistically portrayed. Why he chooses to treat both his children differently is just because every parent knows - different strokes for different folks. All children are different, their needs are different. We can try and bring them up with similar values but their age, school, friends and hormones will have the ultimate impact. Was Bijoy wrong yesterday - in hindsight yes but at that moment, his worry for his one child was more than the other and he did what he did. Without being right most times, he couldn't have brought up such lovely children and for that I think we should not judge his parenting skills.

Did Bijoy take slapgate as his personal insult? Of course he did. Should he have put that aside and been asked Dev for his daughter's happiness? Pragmatically, no! Why would I want my dad to speak to my husband about my happiness putting aside his humiliation? What does that say of my husband? What does that say of me? So, no Bijoy did the right thing.

Actually at the slapgate incident you know what could have helped - if Ishwari managed to put aside her disappointment with her son and said "Dev, yeh tuhne kya kiya. I am sorry Bijoy, baisahaab. I am sorry my son hurt you. This is not the sanskaar I have given my child. Lets sit and talk this through."

This is the world today, isn't it? We are easy to accept someone who under performs and write them off but with someone who is performing well, we always expect more!!

The only way out for the Dixits was to take the money from Sona and then hope to build the relationship. You can't knock a person down in the name of money, slap them and then expect them to be the wiser one with a big heart. Sorry absolutely not!

Bijoy is the dad your average Indian family lacks. If every father of a daughter is like Bijoy, there will be no husband abusing his wife incidents or even families abusing their DILs in India.


I am sorry but most fathers in India are not like bijoy. Ishwari being a selfish and wrong person doesn't automatically make bijoy right.

It's like so what if I got only 30% in maths. My friend has got only 20%. Your friends failing by a bigger margin doesn't negate the fact that you also have failed.

Here I was talking only about bijoy so don't want to discuss Ishwari as anyways even thinking about her makes me sick. I change channel when she comes on screen.

Now coming back to bijoy, I really don't know since when maturity and patience became vices and pride became a virtue. At every stage in his daughters marriage, bijoy put his pride above her wishes. Don't tell me keeping non veg was a show of self respect. The impact of such stupidity is usually life long and is for the girl to pay. If I love my child, I will never do anything to inconvenience her. There were several other instances also.

If I know my daughter loves a guy and would never be really happy without him, I would at least try to improve that guy through mature elder counselling rather than doing everything in my power to get her out of the relationship I don't like.

It's like if I get insulted at my job, do I leave it because my ego is being hurt or Continue because my children need the money I earn. A parent first understands what his child needs and then leaving aside his pride works according to it.

Regarding the idea of bijoy being a good father to saurabh, if you really feel that, I have nothing more to say. I am a parent myself and would seriously wish that I die before I treat my child the way bijoy treats saurabh. You think my child doesn't have any weakness? But this is not how it is handled by a parent.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: jigsaw1234



You maybe correct in that the CVs might paint a negative picture of Bijoy and I will find that hard to digest. As it stands today, I think Bijoy is an ordinary father, pretty realistically portrayed. Why he chooses to treat both his children differently is just because every parent knows - different strokes for different folks. All children are different, their needs are different. We can try and bring them up with similar values but their age, school, friends and hormones will have the ultimate impact. Was Bijoy wrong yesterday - in hindsight yes but at that moment, his worry for his one child was more than the other and he did what he did. Without being right most times, he couldn't have brought up such lovely children and for that I think we should not judge his parenting skills.

Did Bijoy take slapgate as his personal insult? Of course he did. Should he have put that aside and been asked Dev for his daughter's happiness? Pragmatically, no! Why would I want my dad to speak to my husband about my happiness putting aside his humiliation? What does that say of my husband? What does that say of me? So, no Bijoy did the right thing.

Actually at the slapgate incident you know what could have helped - if Ishwari managed to put aside her disappointment with her son and said "Dev, yeh tuhne kya kiya. I am sorry Bijoy, baisahaab. I am sorry my son hurt you. This is not the sanskaar I have given my child. Lets sit and talk this through."

This is the world today, isn't it? We are easy to accept someone who under performs and write them off but with someone who is performing well, we always expect more!!

The only way out for the Dixits was to take the money from Sona and then hope to build the relationship. You can't knock a person down in the name of money, slap them and then expect them to be the wiser one with a big heart. Sorry absolutely not!

Bijoy is the dad your average Indian family lacks. If every father of a daughter is like Bijoy, there will be no husband abusing his wife incidents or even families abusing their DILs in India.

Some sensible post
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: jigsaw1234



You maybe correct in that the CVs might paint a negative picture of Bijoy and I will find that hard to digest. As it stands today, I think Bijoy is an ordinary father, pretty realistically portrayed. Why he chooses to treat both his children differently is just because every parent knows - different strokes for different folks. All children are different, their needs are different. We can try and bring them up with similar values but their age, school, friends and hormones will have the ultimate impact. Was Bijoy wrong yesterday - in hindsight yes but at that moment, his worry for his one child was more than the other and he did what he did. Without being right most times, he couldn't have brought up such lovely children and for that I think we should not judge his parenting skills.

Did Bijoy take slapgate as his personal insult? Of course he did. Should he have put that aside and been asked Dev for his daughter's happiness? Pragmatically, no! Why would I want my dad to speak to my husband about my happiness putting aside his humiliation? What does that say of my husband? What does that say of me? So, no Bijoy did the right thing.

Actually at the slapgate incident you know what could have helped - if Ishwari managed to put aside her disappointment with her son and said "Dev, yeh tuhne kya kiya. I am sorry Bijoy, baisahaab. I am sorry my son hurt you. This is not the sanskaar I have given my child. Lets sit and talk this through."

This is the world today, isn't it? We are easy to accept someone who under performs and write them off but with someone who is performing well, we always expect more!!

The only way out for the Dixits was to take the money from Sona and then hope to build the relationship. You can't knock a person down in the name of money, slap them and then expect them to be the wiser one with a big heart. Sorry absolutely not!

Bijoy is the dad your average Indian family lacks. If every father of a daughter is like Bijoy, there will be no husband abusing his wife incidents or even families abusing their DILs in India.

Some sensible post
Claps that you dared to post something like this in this post

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