A wife is no mother...EDITED after Dev Sona confrontation - Page 4

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Posted: 8 years ago
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You are right wife is not mother and mother is not wife.. Let's see example

Think you r a woman and.
Your mother slaps you .. What will you do?
And your husband/partner slaps you.. What will u do?

You would definitely leave your husband stating your self respect but you won't leave and break ties with mother..

Above example is a bit of extreme but gist of my point is that every relationship has different expectations. Finally it's all about expectations and once your expectations break you tend to fall out of love and distant yourself from that person. For parent that expectation is different you may be ok with getting slap once twice but even in that case of its frequent you will leave but in case of partner you will leave even after once.. Dev had expectation from sona that she won't leave him watever happens and according to him he did not make prenup and did not send eviction notice. That was maybe unrealistic expectation Dev had from sona. He thought despite of his fault she won't leave. He took her for granted. That's not the case with ishwari. He thought his mother as God so he never had that level of expectations from ishwari instead he expected from himself to keep ishwari happy alwyas. So it's easy for him to overlook ishwari S mistakes..

As sona said relationships dnt compete with each other . They complete each other. Perhaps Dev feels hurt that sona left him because he wouldn't leave anyone even if they make mistakes. I am not sure though about it.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: kankabhor

You are right wife is not mother and mother is not wife.. Let's see example

Think you r a woman and.
Your mother slaps you .. What will you do?
And your husband/partner slaps you.. What will u do?

You would definitely leave your husband stating your self respect but you won't leave and break ties with mother..

Above example is a bit of extreme but gist of my point is that every relationship has different expectations. Finally it's all about expectations and once your expectations break you tend to fall out of love and distant yourself from that person. For parent that expectation is different you may be ok with getting slap once twice but even in that case of its frequent you will leave but in case of partner you will leave even after once.. Dev had expectation from sona that she won't leave him watever happens and according to him he did not make prenup and did not send eviction notice. That was maybe unrealistic expectation Dev had from sona. He thought despite of his fault she won't leave. He took her for granted. That's not the case with ishwari. He thought his mother as God so he never had that level of expectations from ishwari instead he expected from himself to keep ishwari happy alwyas. So it's easy for him to overlook ishwari S mistakes..

As sona said relationships dnt compete with each other . They complete each other. Perhaps Dev feels hurt that sona left him because he wouldn't leave anyone even if they make mistakes. I am not sure though about it.



You have put forth an important point in the discussion. Let me try to answer it. Every relationship is different and command different rights/ expectations. Let me give you an example

My mother slaps me - acceptable.
My mother slaps you - unacceptable.
Why? She is a mother and mothers can slap.
Difference - she is my mother, not yours.

I kiss my wife - acceptable
I kiss your wife - not acceptable
Why? She is a wife and wives can be kissed.
Difference - she is your wife, not mine.

So the point is w are talking of respecting a mother and wife of this very same man, Dev Dixit.
He had to be sensitive towards both, respect both and save both from insults and we all know what Dev babu has done.

Also, this wife of his, sorry ex-wife of his, is a mother of his very child - so why doesn't he show double the respect to this mother!

Hope I made my point!

Edited by sia.krpkab - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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One need not be a perpetrator of abuse but watching saying I didn't do it and trusting the self seeking Vicky is Devs hamartia. The ishwari who glorifies Elena while undermining Sonakshi s role as a DIL did not condone the daughter who walked out of a marriage. She was willing to push her daughter into a marriage where the prospective groom was in a relationship. The way he questions how Sona climbed to her success spot, the way he snatches the trophy and says nasty things is outright mean. Just because you dote on your mom as she struggled to raise you it does not mean you can humiliate your wife.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sia, you bring in a true perspective. It is true that the way the ML is shown to behave, does not leave much to chose from, other than what you wrote. It is the way the CV's have crafted the character and it has been bugging me for quite some time... there is absolutely no semblance of balance in the characterisation that leads to justifiably negative analysis of the ML... and then sparks a bout of slanging between members, some of who take it very personally..
I have been, as you must have noticed recently, at the receiving end of such personal comments. Just don't bother about such comments, state your point of view and move forward... ignoring is the best form of response.

Finally, please do write more often.. at least I would like to read different perspectives... you have an audience...


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: moonwearer

One need not be a perpetrator of abuse but watching saying I didn't do it and trusting the self seeking Vicky is Devs hamartia. The ishwari who glorifies Elena while undermining Sonakshi s role as a DIL did not condone the daughter who walked out of a marriage. She was willing to push her daughter into a marriage where the prospective groom was in a relationship. The way he questions how Sona climbed to her success spot, the way he snatches the trophy and says nasty things is outright mean. Just because you dote on your mom as she struggled to raise you it does not mean you can humiliate your wife.


Spot on.. Loved what you wrote. A real man or woman own upto there mistakes and stand against injustice. How truth changes as per convenience is beyond my comprehension.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: pkbdas61

Sia, you bring in a true perspective. It is true that the way the ML is shown to behave, does not leave much to chose from, other than what you wrote. It is the way the CV's have crafted the character and it has been bugging me for quite some time... there is absolutely no semblance of balance in the characterisation that leads to justifiably negative analysis of the ML... and then sparks a bout of slanging between members, some of who take it very personally..

I have been, as you must have noticed recently, at the receiving end of such personal comments. Just don't bother about such comments, state your point of view and move forward... ignoring is the best form of response.

Finally, please do write more often.. at least I would like to read different perspectives... you have an audience...



Thank you Mr Das, I greatly value your thoughts and opinion. I try to ignore and avoid unnecessary meltdown and melodrama, that is probably the reason why I fret over the contrived plot of the show too.. Lol. I am losing patience with people who just want team dev or team sonakshi to win or lose regardless of how the story is developing.
I am just getting lazy to post, and honestly feel don't have much to contribute because I can't over-analyse things and situations like many others because it is too hypothetical now.
Last 2 days invoked a strong reaction. Today will be another one after Dev sona confrontation. I will surely if I feel challenged enough.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sia.krpkab


Thank you Mr Das, I greatly value your thoughts and opinion. I try to ignore and avoid unnecessary meltdown and melodrama, that is probably the reason why I fret over the contrived plot of the show too.. Lol. I am losing patience with people who just want team dev or team sonakshi to win or lose regardless of how the story is developing.
I am just getting lazy to post, and honestly feel don't have much to contribute because I can't over-analyse things and situations like many others because it is too hypothetical now.
Last 2 days invoked a strong reaction. Today will be another one after Dev sona confrontation. I will surely if I feel challenged enough.


Keep it coming.. I am sure all of us are in for something or the other tonight... it is inevitable... any confrontation between Dev and Sona is bound to spill over on to the streets... or should I say the forum... 😊

As long as there is no violence and verbal diarrhoea, I am fine... keeping my fingers crossed...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautiful post... 👏 Very well written thoughts...
And I sincerely wish Sona decides to continue her life the same way as she's living today away from the The Dixits, for whatever reason she left those people... Because nothing has changed in there after she had left that place and she has no reason to go back to the same state...

And I sincerely wish Sona to have a self-introspection about her own choices of life, owning up to her past mistakes on her own and move on in the real sense without opening up choices for others to drive her decisions... And if she blames others for her choices without taking accountability, she'll only put herself into a vulnerable state... Because it's only the sense of righteous in people that will make them feel guilty when they even sense a small bit of wrongness from their part... Let her take pride in her choices and be the confident self, learning from her beautiful life... Because she's doing great for herself and for Soha
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Push-pull

Beautiful post... 👏 Very well written thoughts...

And I sincerely wish Sona decides to continue her life the same way as she's living today away from the The Dixits, for whatever reason she left those people... Because nothing has changed in there after she had left that place and she has no reason to go back to the same state...

And I sincerely wish Sona to have a self-introspection about her own choices of life, owning up to her past mistakes on her own and move on in the real sense without opening up choices for others to drive her decisions... And if she blames others for her choices without taking accountability, she'll only put herself into a vulnerable state... Because it's only the sense of righteous in people that will make them feel guilty when they even sense a small bit of wrongness from their part... Let her take pride in her choices and be the confident self, learning from her beautiful life... Because she's doing great for herself and for Soha


Thank you PP. After her fantasy world came down crashing, I am glad that Sona came out stronger. Not just that, she understands that she was wrong too, but would love to have a monologue from her and how she comes out of the baggage (because there certainly is monkey on her back) and now that she will have to face Dixits more often. Maintaining her peace and sanity as a mother and separating that role from being a woman who was wronged will definitely be challenging and an uphill task.

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