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Posted: 8 years ago
#31
Thank you... 😊

Originally posted by: sona_naksh

U just explained it so beautifully n perfecytly ...

Wat can be more disheartening than dis

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Precisely. He can't be that oblivious to not notice that every time he spends time with Sona, his mother turns up with her whiny complaints. They are kind of obvious even to an idiot.

And yes, all Dev's solutions are temporary. I mentioned in one of my comments earlier on that Dev should have been in textiles instead of telecom. He does splendid temporary patch up jobs.

He knows Sonakshi is not unreasonable unlike his mother. So he is keeping his mother's insecurity down by dancing to her tunes which is doing no favour to his relationship with his mother, nor any favour to his relationship with his wife.

He did the same with infertility report, taking his mother's help behind Sonakshi's back, not speaking to Sonakshi about the swing, calling Sonakshi's mother aunty and then lying about it etc etc etc... He is the ultimate patch up king. He doesn't fix the situation for good. He puts a temporary patch on it.

Originally posted by: timbarucha83

HI

Nice Post. I just want to put One point which is I fell very Strongly. That Some where Dev is subconsciously know that his mom ones again started the old game Dev sabse jada kisaka he
and he don't what this should lead to his and sona's separation that's why he is making sure she should not get filling being neglected that's why when sons tells that what happend last night he knows what isu must be filling so he comes to give her assurance.He is trying to manage this issue by his own way but soon he is going to fail. because this is not the correct way. This way is a temp. solution because the way isu's insecurities are comming out it will be difficulte to manage.
This is completely my take on dev's behavoiur

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Posted: 8 years ago
#33
Responding in your post. 😊

Originally posted by: .annihilation.


So true. I felt awful for Sona as she showed so much sensibility and grace dealing with the entire situation. Can you imagine, she just flinched for a second when Ishwari passed that accusation of Sona trying to kill Dev? Another woman in her place with a lesser tolerance for bullshit would have lost her cool but no she maintained dignity because she understood the matter of importance at that moment was only Dev's health. She didn't even complain when Neha and GKB with a clueless Nikki and Ria came barging in, she said every argument else can be dealt with later. Then, she's the one who tends to Ishwari's wound in the morning when she could quite easily have spent the morning being pissed at her.

It troubles Ishwari so bad that a person can be genuinely so good, warm, caring and understanding despite the kind of shitty treatment meted out to her. It makes her feel threatened, bothered and guilty that she can never be a person like Sona is, a gem. Which is why she kept asking her to rush through the procedure because she couldn't handle Sona's allure. I had the urges to tape Neha's mouth, the moment she opens her mouth, all she spills is her own insecurities and short-comings. She too like Ishwari get's bothered by Sona because she too deep down knows but doesn't want to face it that she has royally failed at being a wife and a daughter-in-law where as Sona gracefully and tactfully continues to juggle all her roles.

Not that the episodes from the past couple of months aren't show casing elements/incidents that are down right distasteful to watch but today's just got me annoyed so badly. So much and so that, I ended up making a post. I'd like if you can give it a read. 😳

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4760059#138782563

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Good analogy in chess terms... 👏

Here the problem is that Sonakshi is playing a game, but not by the same rule of the current game. She is playing by the rules of her previous game.

She is thinking that if she behaves like Asha, then Ishwari will turn Dida and they will have the same relationship as Asha and Dida have like a mother and daughter.

But that is turning out to be the wrong move in the current game. Every move she is making is being misinterpreted by Ishwari because she is not Dida.

And Ishwari is playing the game of "one up man ship" where she is trying to bring Sonakshi down in an attempt to push herself up. Instead she is sliding into an abyss more and more because Sonakshi is standing strong.

Sonakshi needs to understand that she will never have Asha and Dida equation with Ishwari because she doesn't have Dida's heart and Sonakshi doesn't have Asha's duckback personality where nothing pierces her serenity.

She will just have to settle with Ishwari being the in-law who will forever remain the in-law and she will be the daughter-in-law who will also remain the same.






Originally posted by: gemini54

Tia great post and even better title.👏 Since we are talking about winners and losers I want to use a game analogy here in my post today..bear with me as it is long and I am in a philosophical mood today😉

There are two ways a game can be played in life

The zero-sum Game like Chess or Tennis (if one gains, another loses) means that any result of a zero-sum situation there is no equilibrium
Or
A Non -Zero Game where participants can all gain together so in essence a win win situation where both parties benefit due to the transaction

I am going to use the game of chess to elaborate on this point:
This show has 3 main players
Easwari the mother/MIL
Sona the Daughter in Law/wife
Dev the Son/Husband

In this game of Life Easwari wants to checkmate the opponents King by placing it under an inescapable threat of capture. The king in this case Dev like in chess he moves one square in any direction so when he lost Sona he moved her direction and when Easwari is mad he moves towards hers.

The queen in chess combines the power of the rook and bishop and can move any number of squares along rank, file, or diagonal, but it may not leap over other pieces. Here both the queens ( Easwari and Sona) are trying to leap over each other to not let the other person get to the king. Even though one of the queen in my opinion Sona is not doing it deliberately but her moves seem that way to the opponents Queen

In essence they are playing a Zero Sum Game where each one is trying to be a winner one consciously AND DELIBERATELY and other unconsciously.

Easwari, the queen took care of all the needs of the King (prince) cooked for him, cleaned after him and in essence her role was unparalleled in his life. Her identity as a Queen Mother ( Pun Intended) was with the Halwa or the Kachori she made, the clothes she folded because that is all she knew how . Enter another Queen who wants the King to be independent which means asking him to do folding of his own clothes so taking away one of the identies of the queen MAA and now the Kachori Saga taking away another identity

Both Sona and Easwari needs to realize that in order to win in life they have to play the Non Zero Game which will bring equilibrium back to their lives for that Sona needs to give a little if Easwari wants to cook let her and Easwari needs to give a little if Sona wants to take care of her son let her

A rambling post it became but since it is your post I am taking the liberty😉




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Maybe it is time for Sona to start learning the rules of the new game and be a game changer😉. Thanks for liking my rambles copied this onto a separate topic dont know why maybe because I want to play the games too😉

Good analogy in chess terms... 👏

Here the problem is that Sonakshi is playing a game, but not by the same rule of the current game. She is playing by the rules of her previous game.

She is thinking that if she behaves like Asha, then Ishwari will turn Dida and they will have the same relationship as Asha and Dida have like a mother and daughter.

But that is turning out to be the wrong move in the current game. Every move she is making is being misinterpreted by Ishwari because she is not Dida.

And Ishwari is playing the game of "one up man ship" where she is trying to bring Sonakshi down in an attempt to push herself up. Instead she is sliding into an abyss more and more because Sonakshi is standing strong.

Sonakshi needs to understand that she will never have Asha and Dida equation with Ishwari because she doesn't have Dida's heart and Sonakshi doesn't have Asha's duckback personality where nothing pierces her serenity.

She will just have to settle with Ishwari being the in-law who will forever remain the in-law and she will be the daughter-in-law who will also remain the same.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lol... May be because you don't want to type any more? 😉

Originally posted by: gemini54

Maybe it is time for Sona to start learning the rules of the new game and be a game changer😉. Thanks for liking my rambles copied this onto a separate topic dont know why maybe because I want to play the games too😉

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Good analogy in chess terms... 👏

Here the problem is that Sonakshi is playing a game, but not by the same rule of the current game. She is playing by the rules of her previous game.

She is thinking that if she behaves like Asha, then Ishwari will turn Dida and they will have the same relationship as Asha and Dida have like a mother and daughter.

But that is turning out to be the wrong move in the current game. Every move she is making is being misinterpreted by Ishwari because she is not Dida.

And Ishwari is playing the game of "one up man ship" where she is trying to bring Sonakshi down in an attempt to push herself up. Instead she is sliding into an abyss more and more because Sonakshi is standing strong.

Sonakshi needs to understand that she will never have Asha and Dida equation with Ishwari because she doesn't have Dida's heart and Sonakshi doesn't have Asha's duckback personality where nothing pierces her serenity.

She will just have to settle with Ishwari being the in-law who will forever remain the in-law and she will be the daughter-in-law who will also remain the same.




I think Sona is like Gandhi jee who is going to throw the British (ishwari) from India (dev) without any violence ( no taunts, clear cut questioning etc.) . I think she can beat Ishwari only if she is like Asha (pure at heart, pure in thoughts and actions). Ishwari is a master in dirty games and the only antidote is to not even play the game with her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lol... Sona is other kind of freedom fighter who wants British rule to end and live happily ever after with the same dictator. 😆

Originally posted by: baijubavra


I think Sona is like Gandhi jee who is going to throw the British (ishwari) from India (dev) without any violence ( no taunts, clear cut questioning etc.) . I think she can beat Ishwari only if she is like Asha (pure at heart, pure in thoughts and actions). Ishwari is a master in dirty games and the only antidote is to not even play the game with her.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Lol... Sona is other kind of freedom fighter who wants British rule to end and live happily ever after with the same dictator. 😆


Lol ! But she will change the British rule into BharatMata naa! Bijoy bose is not Gandhian ! He is like Subhash Bose who wants the freedom but not in Gandhian way.
Mami is pakistan who will be separated ( hopefully) but will try to create problems in India.
Riya and Nikki are Bhutan and Nepal respectively. Friendly neighbors!

vicky is POK ( Pak occupied Kashmir) right now but will eventually be with India !
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lol.. Brilliant... And who is Neha? Bangladesh? She was with Pakistan now, but will later separate? 😉

Originally posted by: baijubavra


Lol ! But she will change the British rule into BharatMata naa! Bijoy bose is not Gandhian ! He is like Subhash Bose who wants the freedom but not in Gandhian way.
Mami is pakistan who will be separated ( hopefully) but will try to create problems in India.
Riya and Nikki are Bhutan and Nepal respectively. Friendly neighbors!

vicky is POK ( Pak occupied Kashmir) right now but will eventually be with India !

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