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Posted: 8 years ago
Even if Ishu gives permission to Dev, I am sorry, he still can't be redeemed. He has fallen too low for me to even consider him worthy of any woman, let alone Sona.

Originally posted by: Rithu0203


Right.
About Sona's reaction to this, i think she will be kept unknown from this. In tomorrow' episode Ishwari may ask or give permission to Dev to call Asha as maa and Dev may do so, so this may go unnoticed by Sona. Letz see ho it unfolds.

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Posted: 8 years ago
Absolutely. People who can't keep a commitment, should not make one. If all he needed to get laid, he should have had a plaything on the side to visit and devote his life to his mother. After all sex is the only thing his mother can't provide, everything else she seems to got her fingers on. Why did he had to ruin another woman's life by marrying her?



Originally posted by: thedramaqueen


Exactly... this is the damage mamaji's incomplete discussions do to Dev's thought process. He rushes into damage control and makes a total mess of things.

You know Dev needed a Keep. Someone who would live in his bachelor pad and where he would go and romance when he likes.

Sona isn't his wife at all. You see glimpses here and there but overall I don't think Dev was ready for a wife. And a lot of mamas boys face this. And I agree this is a show so there is some drama involved. But some bits are unacceptable.

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Posted: 8 years ago
I hope Bijoy then gives the entire family a fitting answer and tells Dev that he should consider himself an outsider to Bose family from now on and is no longer welcome there.

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

I was thinking of that. But I doubt. I have a feeling Dev will just as a matter of fact tell this to Sona and asha in a room full of people one day and expect them to get on with it

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Posted: 8 years ago
Problem? What problem? According to Dev, his mother is absolutely normal. Anyone who suggests otherwise are just stupid people who don't understand.

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

Agreed. Which is why I am wondering why is he even assuming it's the way he addresses his mother in law that has caused an issue

He needs to understand the problem (and make ishwari spell it out) before solving it

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Posted: 8 years ago
I am more and more convinced that's the only thing. Dev needed a friend and of course his hormones work so he has needs.
This is still the same problem as before. Ishwari NEEDS him. And he needs sona.

Originally posted by: tia.o

Absolutely. People who can't keep a commitment, should not make one. If all he needed to get laid, he should have had a plaything on the side to visit and devote his life to his mother. After all sex is the only thing his mother can't provide, everything else she seems to got her fingers on. Why did he had to ruin another woman's life by marrying her?



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Posted: 8 years ago
What a fabulous thread to read.

@Push_pull loved your idea of Dev-donor, ya that would solve all of Ishwari's problem. Waise bhi now Neha is there to take care of Dev's kids, why would they need an outsider like Dev's wife for it. Bachpan ke din phir se repeat.

Those who are thinking this is the lowest point for Dev and Ishwari might be wrong, for we are yet to see some great good lows in the show.

I must say how satisfied I was today after reading update (yes, saved my sanity by not watching episodes 3-days in a row now), that Sona never shared Sourabh's business issue with Dev. In real life I would want a wife to share her family's issues with her husband, but not in KRPKAB where the husband doesn't give a hoot to his wife (outside bedroom) or to her family. If told, he might just create more problems for them and what he had to do simply oblige to his mother n not allow Sona to help even her family. Yes even that can happen and looking at Sona she won't even say anything.

Sona is an idiot ever since she fell in love. Or If it still feels like a realty, then must I say, Sona and like women in real world even domestic violence is not too isn't it when you truly love someone, you just have to understand the mental situation of the person who is doing the violence, finally aren't all people not perfect but with some faults too. Faltu mein domestic violence and women's rights is such an issue here...sick. People who think otherwise are wasting time. I am super angry on this attitude.

Mamaji, I never respected this guy for what he says, he is double standard like Ishwari, perhaps a bit less. But whenever he opened his mouth to advice Dev (never to Ishwari) it turned into a disaster.

At this point even If sona gets to know about what Dev has promised to Ishwari, she won't do anything. She may show her displeasure once, which would turn into a stupid bedroom romance (how cute!) for Dev is good only inside the bedroom.

Bina dekhe itna dimaag kharab hua hai mera, dekh leti to mera to fuse hi chala jata
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Posted: 8 years ago
Ok I am back from office to share my thoughts, and yes I am continuing with 'not watching' the show which comes across indeed as a good decision 🤔
But my points on Dev and Ishwari - What is this type of bond where one always suffers from the trauma of losing the other person and the other person has to constantly re-assure that nothing of that sort would happen ? This is personally very disturbing to me to see this Mom-Son relationship, because I had faced a similar incident in my life which I can relate to this emotion - I ended my 5.5 yrs of relationship with my only ex-boyfriend due to this same insecurity. The problem was same from my ex-boyfriend's side - his whole world would revolve around me, and that made him SO insecure at some points that me having a cup of coffee with my college male friend used to bother him like HELL 😳. Anyways, the point is, soon after that started suffocating me, I initiated the break-up for the same reason - Insecurity and not having a life WITHOUT me. Yes, howmuch ever odd it would sound, during the time when my matchmaking was going on, I made my point quite clear to the prospective groom that I am MORE into type-friendship and less into something called 'relationship', that me hanging out with another guy friend should not trigger ANY sort of happy/sad/fear/insecure thoughts in his mind, that he should also have his OWN life WITHOUT me where he CAN remain happy even if I am / anyone is NOT in it, that I don't intend to become somebody's WORLD and that he knows how to find happiness in himself. The thing is that insecurity alone might be a grey emotion which can be dealt with, but insecurity gives birth to possessiveness - a sense of 'possession' instead of a sense of 'belonging'. And whenever this 'possession' comes into the picture, it is more to do with the feelings of owning someone as someTHING. Instead of acknowledging the other's existence and having the 'togetherness', the 'my' thought overtakes which of course leads to extreme selfishness and sometimes turns a borderline/edgy psychotic patient to a sociapath.


(Well eventually I didn't know that I would fall in love with my hubby to such extent that I myself don't seem to follow those 'happy without him' rules anymore 😳😆 But that's totally different issue.)


And honestly I have to admit here that if not Dev and Ishwari, I hadn't known such relationships can exist even between Mom and Son as well !!!! It's SO creepy to even see someone behaving like a boyfriend/girlfriend and refusing to see the other person happy if she is not in it !! I stopped watching specifically due to this - I cannot relive all those horrible moments of insecurities of my ex-boyfriend where I will be more like a possessed thing to him who cannot walk/talk/laugh without him. Dev is the same to Ishwari, and the fact that they are not actually a couple but a Mother-Son really creeps me to no end 🤓. Let me repeat my few wishlist here which I have shared in last 4-5 months quite a few times and will do it again -

1. Let this show have a tragic ending and be a pathbreaker in its own league.
2. Let Dev and Ishwari continue live with each other and set Sona free from the kaalkothri.
3. Or, let be bold and show Ishwari having psychiatric issues and have her treated.

Can these be done please ?
Edited by Pehchaan.Kaun - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
You are better off by not watching the episode. It was very hard to tolerate and yes you are right. Dev and Ishwari has more lows to go.

But today, Dev officially became a massive failure along with Ishwari why showed that the one job she was supposed to do to raise at least one child right, she failed in even that. She is the definition of failure.

Originally posted by: mena_k

What a fabulous thread to read.

@Push_pull loved your idea of Dev-donor, ya that would solve all of Ishwari's problem. Waise bhi now Neha is there to take care of Dev's kids, why would they need an outsider like Dev's wife for it. Bachpan ke din phir se repeat.

Those who are thinking this is the lowest point for Dev and Ishwari might be wrong, for we are yet to see some great good lows in the show.

I must say how satisfied I was today after reading update (yes, saved my sanity by not watching episodes 3-days in a row now), that Sona never shared Sourabh's business issue with Dev. In real life I would want a wife to share her family's issues with her husband, but not in KRPKAB where the husband doesn't give a hoot to his wife (outside bedroom) or to her family. If told, he might just create more problems for them and what he had to do simply oblige to his mother n not allow Sona to help even her family. Yes even that can happen and looking at Sona she won't even say anything.

Sona is an idiot ever since she fell in love. Or If it still feels like a realty, then must I say, Sona and like women in real world even domestic violence is not too isn't it when you truly love someone, you just have to understand the mental situation of the person who is doing the violence, finally aren't all people not perfect but with some faults too. Faltu mein domestic violence and women's rights is such an issue here...sick. People who think otherwise are wasting time. I am super angry on this attitude.

Mamaji, I never respected this guy for what he says, he is double standard like Ishwari, perhaps a bit less. But whenever he opened his mouth to advice Dev (never to Ishwari) it turned into a disaster.

At this point even If sona gets to know about what Dev has promised to Ishwari, she won't do anything. She may show her displeasure once, which would turn into a stupid bedroom romance (how cute!) for Dev is good only inside the bedroom.

Bina dekhe itna dimaag kharab hua hai mera, dekh leti to mera to fuse hi chala jata
😃

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Posted: 8 years ago
You are totally right. It's freaking exhausting to constantly boost someone's ego and battle their insecurity when we have a life to live. Ishwari's drama will never end. But I think now I want to watch Sona dumping his ass and an older Dev all alone because his mother passed away and he has now no one by his side. That will make my heart satisfied. I was actually reminded today of the movie "Ijaazat". The movie had Naseeruddin Shah and Rekha. Naseer gets married to Rekha because his girlfriend didn't want to get married. But after marriage, she keeps calling him. Rekha tries to be understanding but one day she has enough and leaves Naseer. Eventually his girlfriend commits suicide and many years later they meet at a railway station.

After showing the past at the background, when Nasser tried to ask for a second chance, Rekha's current husband walks in who unlike Naseer made his wife a priority and didn't take her for granted and Naseer realises what he has lost.

In this movie Rekha knew about his ex-girlfriend. But she married her thinking that he will also honour his commitment to her. She left him when she finally realized that he will always take her for granted.

That's what I want to see in the show. I want that ending.

Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun

Ok I am back from office to share my thoughts, and yes I am continuing with 'not watching' the show which comes across indeed a good decision 🤔

But my points on Dev and Ishwari - What is this type of bond where one always suffers from the trauma of losing the other person and the other person has to constantly re-assure that nothing of that sort would happen ? This is personally very disturbing to me to see this Mom-Son relationship, because I had faced a similar incident in my life which I can relate to this emotion - I ended my 5.5 yrs of relationship with my only ex-boyfriend due to this same insecurity. The problem was same from my ex-boyfriend's side - his whole world would revolve around me, and that made him SO insecure at some points that me having a cup of coffee with my college male friend used to bother him like HELL 😳. Anyways, the point is, soon after that started suffocating me, I initiated the break-up for the same reason - Insecurity and not having a life WITHOUT me. Yes, howmuch ever odd it would sound, during the time when my matchmaking was going on, I made my point quite clear to the prospective groom that I am MORE into type-friendship and less into something called 'relationship', that me hanging out with another guy friend should not trigger ANY sort of happy/sad/fear/insecure thoughts in his mind, that he should also have his OWN life WITHOUT me where he CAN remain happy even if I am / anyone is NOT in it, that I don't intend to become somebody's WORLD and that he knows how to find happiness in himself. The thing is that insecurity along might be a grey emotion which can be dealt with, but insecurity gives birth to possessiveness - a sense of 'possession' instead of a sense of 'belonging'. And whenever this 'possession' comes into the picture, it is more to do with the feelings of owning someone as someTHING. Instead of acknowledging the other's existence and having the 'togetherness', the 'my' thought overtakes which of course leads to extreme selfishness and sometimes turns a borderline/edgy psychotic patient to a sociapath.


(Well eventually I didn't know that I would fall in love with my hubby to such extent that I myself don't seem to follow those 'happy without him' rules anymore 😳😆 But that's totally different issue.)


And honestly I have to admit here that if not Dev and Ishwari, I hadn't known such relationships can exist even between Mom and Son as well !!!! It's SO creepy to even see someone behaving like a boyfriend/girlfriend and refusing to see the other person happy if she is not in it !! I stopped watching specifically due to this - I cannot relive all those horrible moments of insecurities of my ex-boyfriend where I will be more like a possessed thing to him who cannot walk/talk/laugh without him. Dev is the same to Ishwari, and the fact that they are not actually a couple but a Mother-Son really creeps me to no end 🤓. Let me repeat my few wishlist here which I have shared in last 4-5 months quite a few times and will do it again -

1. Let this show have a tragic ending and be a pathbreaker in its own league.
2. Let Dev and Ishwari continue live with each other and set Sona free from the kaalkothri.
3. Or, let be bold and show Ishwari having psychiatric issues and have her treated.

Can these be done please ?

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Posted: 8 years ago
We keep blaming Ishwari for her double standard, but each and every member of that house should be blamed for making her epitome of double standard. Their habit to worship her double standard ade her completely hypocrite. Specially Mamaji who knows her true intentions, but still keep feeding her ego. What was moral behind that tale?
Is there anyone more partial than her?

Why doesn't she have problem with Naha calling 'maa' to Ranveer's om? Even Ria will have another Maa very soon. Nikki will get one day.


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