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Tia.0

@Tia.0

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Posted: 8 years ago

#41

Thanks.

Originally posted by: varshu_018
😉 how very true

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Shilky88

@Shilky88

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Posted: 8 years ago

#42

Thanks Tia for liking my analysis!!
Yeah..I don't know if all people who are over religious are like that but there are most of them who I have known are like that.Such people think that they dont have to fear anyone as they have GOD by their side in whatever they do ,,right or wrong,,good or evil..

I am still waiting for Karma to knock Ishwari's door.

It reminds me of one Doha from Kabir..sayings of kabir's wisdom

"Karta tha to kyon raha
Ab kar kyo pachtaaye
Boya ped babool ka
To aam kaha se paaye"

Originally posted by: tia.o

Ha ha... Like Sona mentioned, her and Ranveer should have got written warning before signing marriage contract.

Here I'd like to mention something you wrote in your comment on Vibg's post. I am mentioning it here so that I don't clutter up her post with my rambling. Lol...

You wrote:From last 29 years Ishwari has deeply inserted a thought into Dev's vulnerable mind that only their family is destined for happiness.
Whole world is obliged to them to help them in achieving what they want and anyone not doing so will deserve a punishment.

and so was Dev's outburst on Sona,Ritwik and now on Ranveer.

Dixits are not normal like us .They are special and Sona is getting a feel of it.

Just like Article 370 - Dixits have separate rule book, special autonomous laws by virtue of their tragic past. Most importantly THEY HAVE SEPARATE HUMAN RIGHTS AS WELL such that anyone can be treated inhuman by them in their own interest.

At this point I think Dixits should put a flag outside their Ishwari Niwas and Ishwari Dixit communications so that anyone entering it knows that he/she is entering into a special law zone
and what mess he/she is getting himself into.(JANHIT ME JAARI,issued in public interest😉)

That I must say was an excellent analysis.

And yes, you are absolutely right. Ishwari's lessons on how family is only defined by blood relations, everyone else (including spouses) are outsiders and anyone who says anything that family objects to should be punished and put back into their place immediately, is now coming out in the form of her own daughter's ruined life.

I have mentioned Karma many times in my posts and it doesn't spare anyone.

I have often noticed that people who are overly religious are either like that because they truly are very much devoted to God or they know that they have done many sins and wants God to absolve them so they are basically bribing God.

Ishwari is the later.

She does no good deed at home, but keeps her all good deeds for outside to gain pat on her back and approval.

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thedramaqueen

@thedramaqueen

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Posted: 8 years ago

#43

You are funny

I shall type up a single reply and paste on a few posts that have caught my attention.

Apologies for haphazard thoughts

Shall we deal with Devakshi Boxit first? Lovely scenes... all so natural... cute shararats, morning breath and sincere hugs. I was always of the opinion that the SR HAD to be done before this relationship moves ahead. Not because after the SR Sona will have Dev tightly wrapped round her finger... No, the consummation had to happen because, they HADN'T had anything physical interaction before the wedding (I was wrong here. I had been of the opinion (from inference only) they had kissed and had had some physical interaction before the break-up/post proposal... How was I proved wrong? The ease with which Sonanksi Bose and Dev Dixit started moving towards becoming Devakshi Boxit proved that the sexual tension had dissipated post SR). Why I think it was important? Because of what Dev said that day over their coffee date - They became GF/BF to man and wife way too quickly. Yes, the patch-up was very fast. It had to be... else they would have broken-up never to be brought back together again. So there was awkwardness. You see, they never went on too many dates etc before the break-up. Mind you, their courtship was hardly a few weeks..Thank You Sona for sorting that one thing (SR) out for Devakshi... You have other bigger fish to fry now. You guys are now talking. Dev is still love-sick but not s3x hungry... You can have relaxed Scooty, coffee and breakfast dates'. You guys are back to being friends first spouses later

Just a small note on dadi bua = Thank you (NOT!) for helping transform Miss Bose into Mrs Dixit. Your taunts, your body language all scared the $hit out of Miss Bose... She got so subdued/petrified (of losing her love to his greatest fear) thanks to the wedding dramas, that it's taken her weeks (My calculations show they got married about 4 days before Navrati and its Diwali now - so they have been married for about a month now) to morph back into Miss Bose. Dev fell in love with Miss Bose, not with Mrs Dixit. She has finally stopped reminding her husband that its mrs dixit for you'. You see, this is what Big Fat Weddings do... Devakshi, you guys are fine... You have your differences, you have some big challenges in your circumstances to deal with, however, you guys are married to the person you loved... Sonakshi lost some battles but is winning the war.

Neha and Ranvir on the other hand, had to morph into someone they both hadn't fallen in love with. Seen some posts on this. I can't make up mind on whether Ranvir is a self-respecting man or a ghamandi husband who isn't choosing his battles in his attempt to save his marriage. I can clearly see what is the issue with Neha (except that I still can't fathom if something happened the night Neha walked out of that house that we are yet to be made aware of). Part of me agrees with the viewers who think that the Neha-Ranvir ship has sailed... there is too much collateral damage to this relationship for it to be mended. Now, Dev needs to take a leaf out of Ishwari's book when it comes to wooing the guy back to Neha. Dev, you probably don't know, your mother went to the Boses and jholi falo-ed in front of them to get you the toy you wanted/your lost love. You only went to Miss Bose once with your stupid flowers... Mummy went there twice, was begging on your behalf (she had her own hidden agendas, but so do you in case of Neha) and was ready to go again and again. You on the other hand Dev did a lot of damage with Ranvir. Who has now done further damage - one that I think is beyond repair... Dev snatching Ranvir's job... Here is where I open a discussion with my fellow forum-wasis... I think we have seen a different shade of this power flaunting avatar of Dev with Dr Bose and Ritwick. What Dev Dixit was doing with Ritwick wasn't an attempt to discourage Ritwick. It was a (successful) attempt of keeping Sonakshi's attention on Dev... What Dev Dixit did with Dr Bose was drive her down to accept his job offer by eliminating all other job options for her. What Dev Dixit has done with Ranvir (does Ranvir's brother work for charity for Indian Defence?) is not the same. In my opinion (and I know it will differ from a lot of you and I am in no way defending Dev Dixit), what Dev did to Ranvir isn't as disgusting as what Ranvir has done to neha. Also, I don't think what Dev did to Ranvir by taking his job away is as dangerous as what Dev did to Ranvir by mentioning lawyers. Ranvir has made this nasty... I don't know what Neha did in her in-laws house, but, the legal letter to Neha from Ranvir can get her into big trouble. BUT... Dev can easily fix Ranvir's job and Neha's legal problems. What he cannot fix (without learning from his mother) is the words he used in Ranvir's office. That was out of character. Dev uses his money and power to arm-twist people only to the extent where money can fix the problem. He isn't nasty with his words. Sonakshi is rightly confused because she thinks her husband is still not looking at alternatives - i.e. talk to Ranvir and his family. Sona's visit to his Bhabhi have wrongly sent Ranvir down a downward spiral because he now thinks these Dixits are playing games with him. The viewers in us should remind ourselves of the conversation Dev & Sona had when Ranvir wasn't taking the flat that Dev was offering him before the wedding. Dev asked Sona to put herself in Dev's shoes. Sona asked Dev to put himself in Ranvir's shoes. Neither of them could do it. They are still the same. Sona is again petrified of her love. She is 1. Frustrated that people are still not discussing the issue (and not Ranvir's Bhabhi is being unreasonable too) and 2. she has been able to put herself in Ranvir's shoes and all the what ifs must play in her mind. Dev is acting like some kind of mafia as far as Ranvir's point of view is concerned... Enough said

Mamiji - You did Devakshi a big favour. No not the care you showed to Sona. But by that loud cough you did when Sona hugged Dev beech bazar main (they weren't even in their front garden.. they were on the road outside Ishawri Niwas)... that as usual, brought Devakshi in the open.. I like it when you do such things. Sona, what happened there? Your husband wants to romance chup chup ke. It was cute though

Now, Ishu ma... Supriya ji... award leeye bina manoge nahi aap... Kya acting kee hai...

I agree with the analysis of most viewers. Her bhramastra (guilt) wasn't used to its 100% efficiency this time. This time she used it subtly. Partly because her attention is diverted and partly because she now knows Dev is also a husband to a nice girl... A girl who takes care of him and his family like her own. Ishwari needs to however also take a leaf out of Dev's book... You just call out Dev and he will come down to go to the temple with you. He was disappointed at so many levels that moment in the bedroom with his injured wife sleeping in his lap. He was disappointed that his mother is still insecure about his wife who is such a content little girl at heart. All she needs is a hug... no drama... changes into her nightdress and goes off to sleep without taking her husband down a guilt trip. Disappointed that his mum doesn't realise that things have changed but they can still carry on with their little routines... Disappointed that his mum can't see how happy he is with this girl and all mum needs to do is call him... (Did you guys notice Dev didn't leave Sona for a minute when they were bursting crackers...)

PS: Shaheer - please change your glasses... I know I sound like a broken record... they are immensely unflattering

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Tia.0

@Tia.0

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Posted: 8 years ago

#44

Dev and Sona's physical intimacy has certainly made them come closer. And you are right, as I was also saying over and over for Sona not to change herself after marriage because as you said, Dev fell in love with Miss Bose, not Mrs. Dixit. He still wanted Miss Bose in his life.

Sona is starting to understand and slowly coming out of the prison that she herself created for her with the help of Dadi Bua after marriage.

Regarding Ranveer, I agree that the legal notice he sent was a very low blow. But we don't know yet if Dev took away Ranveer's job first or he sent the legal notice fast.

If Ranveer sent the legal notice first, that was a bad move on his part.

But if Dev took Ranveer's job first, then it of course can be counter-attack.

Dev however threatened Ranveer with legal action as we all know in any case.

That's why I wanted Sona to handle this and not Dev because Dev is hot headed when it comes to his family and that kind of person can't join a relationship, just break them.

However, both Dev and Ishwari claimed to know Neha better and asked Sona to stay away.

Now, I don't know what Neha did in her in-laws. But when Ranveer's bhabhi said that they both know who started what, Neha got silent. That brings the thought that Neha did something in there.

Moving on to Ranveer, in my opinion, he is both self-respecting person and a husband who has given up on his marriage. They are not mutually exclusive. Like most men who assume that it's the women's responsibility to mold their life to their husband's decision and family, he is doing the same.

But then Dev also assumed the same when he alone took the decision to cancel the honeymoon without discussing it with Sona.

The difference is that Sona, although upset, chose to not make it a huge issue and Neha refused to put up with it.

They are both right, in my opinion. The choice to let things go if that particular issue is not a big deal is a woman's prerogative as well as the choice to not put up with autonomy if the issue is a big deal.

But one thing is clear. Ranveer never claimed that he had much of ambition. He was content with his life. If Neha assumed one day he will be ambitious and get as rich as Dev, that was her mistake. When you marry a person, you marry as he is. You can make small changes in how he deals with you or whether he treats you as an equal, but you can't change the person fundamentally.

Ranveer never claimed to be ambitious. In fact, when Dev offered him a job in a better company, initially he didn't want to accept it but later decided to bend his self-respect for Neha. Now whatever made Neha think that he will continue to bend his self-respect for her, I don't know. But he didn't misled Neha. Her assumptions are not his fault.

Neha, on the other hand, should not have listened to Ishwari. She should have consulted her wish list. You see we can make a list of priorities. But that's the only things in our control. We should be able to decide what we can or can not live with. And if we have to choose between one or another, which one we will be able to give up. Otherwise, either we have to earn whatever is in our list ourselves or wait until we get everything in our list. But there's only a guarantee if we are willing to work for it. There's no guarantee if we depend on someone else to hand it over to us.

Neha could at any time go back to school and finish her studies and join Dev's businsess herself. She is smart and she can learn on the job. If Vicky can get a job, she can too. Then Ranveer would have no say in the money she earns. But instead, she wants to fulfil her ambition through him.

That is not to say Ranveer is completely right. He is also wrong in assuming the money Dev gave his sister for their home is his money to give to his mother's operation. If his mother needed operation, he could have arranged money from elsewhere. But he had no right to use that money without discussing it with Neha because that was essentially Dev's money and hence Neha's money.

I am waiting for today's episode to know how Neha reacts to the news of Ranveer's job being taken away by Dev. I hope she at least doesn't support Dev. Because whatever may be Ranveer's fault, his family is blameless and always treated her well. Making them suffer because of her and Ranveer's screw up is not the right thing to do.

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen
You are funny
I shall type up a single reply and paste on a few posts that have caught my attention.

Apologies for haphazard thoughts

Shall we deal with Devakshi Boxit first? Lovely scenes... all so natural... cute shararats, morning breath and sincere hugs. I was always of the opinion that the SR HAD to be done before this relationship moves ahead. Not because after the SR Sona will have Dev tightly wrapped round her finger... No, the consummation had to happen because, they HADN'T had anything physical interaction before the wedding (I was wrong here. I had been of the opinion (from inference only) they had kissed and had had some physical interaction before the break-up/post proposal... How was I proved wrong? The ease with which Sonanksi Bose and Dev Dixit started moving towards becoming Devakshi Boxit proved that the sexual tension had dissipated post SR). Why I think it was important? Because of what Dev said that day over their coffee date - They became GF/BF to man and wife way too quickly. Yes, the patch-up was very fast. It had to be... else they would have broken-up never to be brought back together again. So there was awkwardness. You see, they never went on too many dates etc before the break-up. Mind you, their courtship was hardly a few weeks..Thank You Sona for sorting that one thing (SR) out for Devakshi... You have other bigger fish to fry now. You guys are now talking. Dev is still love-sick but not s3x hungry... You can have relaxed Scooty, coffee and breakfast dates'. You guys are back to being friends first spouses later

Just a small note on dadi bua = Thank you (NOT!) for helping transform Miss Bose into Mrs Dixit. Your taunts, your body language all scared the $hit out of Miss Bose... She got so subdued/petrified (of losing her love to his greatest fear) thanks to the wedding dramas, that it's taken her weeks (My calculations show they got married about 4 days before Navrati and its Diwali now - so they have been married for about a month now) to morph back into Miss Bose. Dev fell in love with Miss Bose, not with Mrs Dixit. She has finally stopped reminding her husband that its mrs dixit for you'. You see, this is what Big Fat Weddings do... Devakshi, you guys are fine... You have your differences, you have some big challenges in your circumstances to deal with, however, you guys are married to the person you loved... Sonakshi lost some battles but is winning the war.

Neha and Ranvir on the other hand, had to morph into someone they both hadn't fallen in love with. Seen some posts on this. I can't make up mind on whether Ranvir is a self-respecting man or a ghamandi husband who isn't choosing his battles in his attempt to save his marriage. I can clearly see what is the issue with Neha (except that I still can't fathom if something happened the night Neha walked out of that house that we are yet to be made aware of). Part of me agrees with the viewers who think that the Neha-Ranvir ship has sailed... there is too much collateral damage to this relationship for it to be mended. Now, Dev needs to take a leaf out of Ishwari's book when it comes to wooing the guy back to Neha. Dev, you probably don't know, your mother went to the Boses and jholi falo-ed in front of them to get you the toy you wanted/your lost love. You only went to Miss Bose once with your stupid flowers... Mummy went there twice, was begging on your behalf (she had her own hidden agendas, but so do you in case of Neha) and was ready to go again and again. You on the other hand Dev did a lot of damage with Ranvir. Who has now done further damage - one that I think is beyond repair... Dev snatching Ranvir's job... Here is where I open a discussion with my fellow forum-wasis... I think we have seen a different shade of this power flaunting avatar of Dev with Dr Bose and Ritwick. What Dev Dixit was doing with Ritwick wasn't an attempt to discourage Ritwick. It was a (successful) attempt of keeping Sonakshi's attention on Dev... What Dev Dixit did with Dr Bose was drive her down to accept his job offer by eliminating all other job options for her. What Dev Dixit has done with Ranvir (does Ranvir's brother work for charity for Indian Defence?) is not the same. In my opinion (and I know it will differ from a lot of you and I am in no way defending Dev Dixit), what Dev did to Ranvir isn't as disgusting as what Ranvir has done to neha. Also, I don't think what Dev did to Ranvir by taking his job away is as dangerous as what Dev did to Ranvir by mentioning lawyers. Ranvir has made this nasty... I don't know what Neha did in her in-laws house, but, the legal letter to Neha from Ranvir can get her into big trouble. BUT... Dev can easily fix Ranvir's job and Neha's legal problems. What he cannot fix (without learning from his mother) is the words he used in Ranvir's office. That was out of character. Dev uses his money and power to arm-twist people only to the extent where money can fix the problem. He isn't nasty with his words. Sonakshi is rightly confused because she thinks her husband is still not looking at alternatives - i.e. talk to Ranvir and his family. Sona's visit to his Bhabhi have wrongly sent Ranvir down a downward spiral because he now thinks these Dixits are playing games with him. The viewers in us should remind ourselves of the conversation Dev & Sona had when Ranvir wasn't taking the flat that Dev was offering him before the wedding. Dev asked Sona to put herself in Dev's shoes. Sona asked Dev to put himself in Ranvir's shoes. Neither of them could do it. They are still the same. Sona is again petrified of her love. She is 1. Frustrated that people are still not discussing the issue (and not Ranvir's Bhabhi is being unreasonable too) and 2. she has been able to put herself in Ranvir's shoes and all the what ifs must play in her mind. Dev is acting like some kind of mafia as far as Ranvir's point of view is concerned... Enough said

Mamiji - You did Devakshi a big favour. No not the care you showed to Sona. But by that loud cough you did when Sona hugged Dev beech bazar main (they weren't even in their front garden.. they were on the road outside Ishawri Niwas)... that as usual, brought Devakshi in the open.. I like it when you do such things. Sona, what happened there? Your husband wants to romance chup chup ke. It was cute though

Now, Ishu ma... Supriya ji... award leeye bina manoge nahi aap... Kya acting kee hai...

I agree with the analysis of most viewers. Her bhramastra (guilt) wasn't used to its 100% efficiency this time. This time she used it subtly. Partly because her attention is diverted and partly because she now knows Dev is also a husband to a nice girl... A girl who takes care of him and his family like her own. Ishwari needs to however also take a leaf out of Dev's book... You just call out Dev and he will come down to go to the temple with you. He was disappointed at so many levels that moment in the bedroom with his injured wife sleeping in his lap. He was disappointed that his mother is still insecure about his wife who is such a content little girl at heart. All she needs is a hug... no drama... changes into her nightdress and goes off to sleep without taking her husband down a guilt trip. Disappointed that his mum doesn't realise that things have changed but they can still carry on with their little routines... Disappointed that his mum can't see how happy he is with this girl and all mum needs to do is call him... (Did you guys notice Dev didn't leave Sona for a minute when they were bursting crackers...)

PS: Shaheer - please change your glasses... I know I sound like a broken record... they are immensely unflattering

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Shaavi

@Shaavi

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#45

"That is not to say Ranveer is completely right. He is also wrong in assuming the money Dev gave his sister for their home is his money to give to his mother's operation. If his mother needed operation, he could have arranged money from elsewhere. But he had no right to use that money without discussing it with Neha because that was essentially Dev's money and hence Neha's money."

Ranveer took a loan in his name to buy the house for himself and Neha. But when he found his mom needs operation, he just used that money for that instead of using it for buying house. But Neha at that time insisted that Ranveer should take a loan from Dev and buy the house for which Ranveer refused.

When Ranveer came to talk to Neha, she once again says that why dont you take the loan from my brother and i want you to be rich like my brother. Ranveer also mentions that if she did not like being compared to Sona, he did not like being compared to Dev all the time.

I think this is what baabhi was referring too when she told Neha you know well who started what.

Whatever it is this is very interesting and i like how KRPKAB is showing so many issues that can happen in real life. Looking forward to how the story unfolds.

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