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Posted: 8 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

Hello

Been wanting to comment on a few posts, however, since I have only recently joined I can only make so many posts daily. Will try to write a long one.

The problem with Ishwari trying to keep the pair separate is that its tacky. This constant direct and indirect reference to consummation by various characters is cheap and makes me uncomfortable. I totally expected a suhagrat episode but not such a long annoying track. I actually expected something more grown up.. "A panting shirtless dev with a beautiful Sona on his chest... Done and over with. They have consummated. Now lets move on to the original theme." "Or a Ms Nosey Elena & Dadi teasing Sona to spill the details and Sona shying away... Suhagraat dealt with... lets move on" Keep it grownup and funny and move on. Of course Sex is another shade of love.. Of course it will happen.. but why does it have to be so explicit? Dev & sona are enacting it so well. Supriya is acting fabulous. But the point is, never have they shown such stuff in this serial. Why now? We need to get rid of these heavy sarees, loud ILs and go back to being soft yet strong scenes.

I dont expect a 5 minute suhagraat scene where Sona wears her nightwear and wraps herself in a golden shawl... eww... Hope they dont show that. The reference to Maine Pyar Kiya was enough. Seriously, I cant watch this with my dad or father in law or even older kids!

That's what I loved about that pink saree sequence between dev & Sona before the breakup. It was sutble, surreal, sexy... Did they kiss... did they not kiss... did he remove her clothes... who cares.. I think they did.. you may think they did not.. It doesn't matter. The point of that sequence was he wooed his woman and sona loves her man.Please keep it cultured. Of course MILs like Ishwari exist. But why do they need to show this "Dev chora na" type stuff... yuck...Atleast in the cities, men today cutely hug their wives in front of their parents. This "kya dev..., idhar aao" type talk is so trashy when shown in the non-romantic style. I love the intimacy, but they dont need to show the mother getting insecure over bedroom scenes. Of course no one other than dev-sona know if they went full 9 yards or not. So why drag this topic like this? Obsessing over that is psychotic and that's what so many of us have taken a slight dislike to these episodes and characters

Have the Dixits gone back to eating Paranthas after Dr Bose left her job? I thought Sona would mention diet and Ishwari would again get all insecure and controlling. I thought Sona will try to change some grocery lists and that will upset Ish. When did Dev start drinking Chai? He drank coffee and juice as far as I recall. There is loads they can exploit to show the insecurity. I like how they are showing the common mistakes a new bahu makes... the mistakes a newly wed son makes. Just keep it decent.

Dev working out, shirtless in his room, sona's payal - all strong yet decent stuff. Those dimly lit streets where they would stop by in their evening drives back home - was it not indication enough of what has and hasnt happened between the duo. Why make it so explicit now?

The chit passing, the gift posting etc while is cute for M&B type thrill seeking audience, this serial has never been that type. All that used to happen but no one else would find out. Remember how that pink saree had arrived and no one even found out. Why make it so public now?

The breakfast scene was way stronger. So much more decent for viewers yet aggravating for Ishwari. Ditto for the goodbye for office. The way Dev's eyes were searching for Sona, was again decent and very upsetting for an insecure mother. The lehenga vs benarsi saree was a great idea. They quickly killed it.

That would be normal.. natural reaction from a mother.

That is why the episode on Friday and then this 9 days of "alag rehena hoga (ewww)" is so annoying. My suspicion is Ishwari still wants Sona to sign the pre-nup before they consummate (if that is indeed a condition) or that we are heading into a nasty surrogacy track (where Dev sleeps with another woman and an ailing Sona spends the night in tears.)

I love this serial. After a very long time I am hooked to something. I hope Sony can one day sell box sets of DVDs for Fans like me who watch F.R.I.E.N.D.S. decades after it wsa first aired.

Please show decent adult grown up stuff folks. Not creepy stuff.


First of all thank you so much for voicing your thoughts 😃 But seriously i had a hearty laugh after reading your comment because somewhere down the line I loved your mild sarcasm and frustration in it😆 Don't get me wrong, I do understand your qualms and its quite valid too frankly😳.

I agree watching explicit scenes can be uncomfortable with families but I trust the CVs who so far managed to show the romance in very very decent way will deal the SR too in the same way! CVs are trying to get the best of both worlds (uniqueness and TRPs ) with this track and hence the focus on SR I believe, because the consummation is always the selling point in a serial to the markets (We can't blame the makers for trying to encash it a little bit, after all its all business here😆)

Why I loved the episode is the subtle neatly flowing scenes unwrapping ishwari's insecurity along with the newly wed desperations because somewhere down the line I have seen all this exactly the same way😆 so I found nothing dramatic here, of course we all tend to have different visions , so I understood yours as well😳.

And please don't overthink yourself with Dev sleeping with another for a child 😲 It will be the death of all including the show😆 Butchery at its best 😆

Aww Friends I hope KRPKAB makes the list and bring smiles every night 😳

As I said this is a real sensitive issue which can be seemed creepy very easily if not handled properly as there is only a thin line between insecurity and psycic obsession here. Lets trust the Cvs and see how all this unfolds 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: mily_mathew

Very good post.Totally agree with u.But I seriously think Ishwari has deep physchological issues,which needs to be addressed.I am actually sad with Sona as well as a bit angry too.She is trying too hard.Sona has never been this naive and needy.She has a lot to go through.she has no idea what she has signed up for


Thank you😊 More than physcological I sense some deep secret hidden from the past with the fear of loosing her son. I want to know whats with Khatri and his dhamki ! Hope CVs don't forget it conveniently. Poor Sona she is genuinely trying to fit in and get into the good looks of Dev's family just like every newly wed DIL thinks😳 But trust me, once she sense something is wrong with Ishwari, she won't waste a minute in trying to figure that out..till then her struggles are to be continued unfortunately.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonaliBakshi

if parent feel insecure i feel nothing wrong in it ...i have seen how badly son changes their colour after marriage which is not so right


Haha you are in entirely different track my dear😆 Every relationship has to be compromised at a certain stage be it MIL, DIL, Son, etc for a smooth running of family. Who compromise depends entirely on the situation 😳 Agree even I have seen sons treating mothers poorly after a marriage for reasons only known to them🥱 Irony is those type of Son and DIL will have a Mother teresa type Moms and for good understanding DIL, we get ekta version vamp type MIL
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shobhna.jha

Just wanted to share something with u guys! My family is also like Dixit family my father died when we were young I was just one year old, we are three sisters and a brother and my brother loves my mom so much and Vice versa! So the point is whenever I watch the show I can always imagine My family's future! N my mom watches it too I always have a fear of my mom turning like ishwari although my mom is not obsessed like her but still ! From my POV when people losses their partner then their life revolves around their kids and they don't want to make space for any another person! My mom is always insecure about my Di 's boyfriend, she always complaints about how my sister is not giving her enough time like she used to, she is changed now and etc.
But people make adjustments! So hope my mom will also adjust...


First of all thank you so much for sharing your life with us sweety🤗 May you and your siblings always be the strength your Mom need at the tough times. Please don't have any negative thoughts relating your real life and the show. But you are right, people who loose their partner at the early age always make their life around their kids. I m glad this show have touched so many life like yours and hope it will be an eyeopener and help in any ways possible. Just make sure your Mom feels that she is always loved by you kids and she will never get to the stage of insecurity. Take care my dear and may God bless you and your family!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: sia.krpkab




We all know that Diksha! I have read your post - By god tumsey zyada crazy Shaheer/ Dev fan koi nahi ho sakta! If I ever got a chance to meet Shaheer, I will happilt pass it along to you 😊


LOl..If you ever meet him without Diksha's knowledge first she will bring her inner Ishwari to pitai you for spending time with him and then will calm down to ask the details😆 Possessive fan hai ye sambaal ke😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Moony87

Lovely post 👏. My like button is not working.. Grrr. 😕


Aww thank you 😊 Never mind the buttons😆


But yes I'd like to politely disagree on few points. The slight jealousy is in every person regarding something or the other. But this is on actually a negative level. And very very realistic as well. Though I'll save my applauses depending on how this will be handled but yes the makers deserve an appreciation for bring ing this forth.

Coming to your father, oh that's actually a normal one. He is not trying to sabotage your relationship knowingly or unknowingly😊
Yes I know that, I merely stated to point that every parent is little possessive about their kids and Ishwari is the extreme version of that😆 (But trust me I have had my fair share of fights with my husband regarding this when I say I value my father more than him😆)

To be very Frank, because it's a show and a lot of layers had been shown of Ishwari before, viewers can give a benefit of doubt to her. But this doesn't happen in real life, in most cases. The hatred which is on the forum is what actually develops out of these scenarios. It's not that the daughter in laws start disobeying their MILs in the very beginning itself. No one does that. Specially in single parents, even the Daughter in laws naturally respect them. But there is a difference - to get naturally respected and to force respect out of someone.

@bold : I so agree with this one !!

These cases are a mix of two things, one forced respect that you have to listen only to what I have been saying in this house all these years and second the toy for the house. That is one of the mentalities which they showed in the promo in lot lot of cases. And ishwari lost my points with that promo actually. That didn't show her insecurity.. That showed her mentality. Sorry no offence. That is what mother in laws are so cursed about - they want a toy.. A maid not a partner to their sons. Someone who can do all the household work and give them a grandchild when demanded.

Actually along with that prenup, I didn't get the need to make that toy promo 😕 You were right, it left a bad taste in my mouth too and if we go by that promo, she does look manipulative😆 Maybe thats the reason the makers never implemented that promo in the show !

Coming again to the hatred, well this is a show and at the end everyone will be happy with no love lost for Ishwari.. But the hatred which is on forum is what actually remains by the end of these storms. The relationship is strained for ever, not on the surface but inside. The moment Ishwari told Nikki to ask Sona to sleep with them my mother grunted, just like your grandma. The wounds are deep and they don't heal. The prenup makes it worse to empathize with her. Just my POV. That is pure plotting.

Appreciate you being frank but I don't sense a plotting here. Only because Ishwari had to hear those intimate whisperings even if it is for seconds, her mind got clouded with anger and her irritation with Nikki is the result of that. So yes that was a spur of a moment decision though I don't condone her action for all I have to say😳

Ishwari made numerous sacrifices for Dev that doesn't give her browny points. Not from me at least. She likes no one near him. Natasha was great. She was not happy. Sona is her son's love, she is not happy. Every mother makes lots of sacrifices for their son but the niceness is just not in that.. It's in how your treat someone else's daughter in your house. Women ill-treat even their own choice of daughter in law.

Ishwari would have always had a problem with any woman in Dev's life be it Natasha or Sona.. when her own daughter's are kept away from him, how dare a girl from other family abduct him😆

The makers have taken a wonderful concept. However I never liked ishwari for I hate biased parents. The daughters are sidelined like some furniture. And that brings a bad bad taste in my mouth. Why can't the makers also highlight that daughters can also share your troubles and not just the son? Regarding the message, I hope for once the housewives take a good message out of it. For we are a country where major people want Ram as a kid but won't make an effort to not be like Dashrath and not do injustice to their own kids. Or they'll be blind like Dhritrashtra, but won't open their eyes and stop their kids from being Duryodhan. Wishful thinkings hopefully turn into reality this time.

You will never get a counter argument from me when it comes to biaseness shown to Neha and others in the show because thats one aspect I am deeply wounded too😳 I hope the makers highlight this issue too as you mentioned! Some comments deeply touch your soul and yours is one here 👏But I am sure your wishful thinking is already is the process of turning into reality with today's generation parents as i don't see them differentiate between a boy and girl😳


PS: The show is indeed Path breaking. Hope it is taken as a lesson by the real life mother in laws. Though yes, ishwari makes me shiver due to personal incidents and what I heard from my frenz. They are not beaten or physically tortured but this mental torture is equally hazardous.

True, this very post is turning to be a major example of how serious this issue is as many members came out with their personal life experiences here. I really hope the writers do full justification to the wonderful track they have formed!! Lets hope for the best😊


I must say this is one of the best comment I have read with a different POV yet with so much respect for the opposite perspective👏 Thank you, people like you make the healthier environment..enjoyed reading your post 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
#57
So long as suhagraat remains on dev and sona's mind while Ishwari doesn't think about it, the characters will remain true to their personalities.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepsel


LOl..If you ever meet him without Diksha's knowledge first she will bring her inner Ishwari to pitai you for spending time with him and then will calm down to ask the details😆 Possessive fan hai ye sambaal ke😆


@ Kirti: Hellooo...mere bina kaise?? Kaise ?? Akele akele?? hawww... Bolo bolo tel tel 😆
Yar main to fan ki stage paar kar chuki hu ..😉😆😆
the hopeless romantic in me has even imagined my first meeting with Shah ☺️🤣
Aur ye to mujhe batana nahi padega that uske aage ki meetings b maine imagine bhi kar hi li hogi 😆😆

@ Deeps: U knw me so well🤣
Main to bas ticket katwa k kisi din chali bhi jaugi 😆😆
Rukna bada mushkil ho raha hai din-ba-din 😳😆😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
#59
Reading about her insecurity is easier than watching it. Reading analysis is simpler but watching that analysis on tv is getting difficult.
That is all I can say.

I loved your post.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepsel


I must say this is one of the best comment I have read with a different POV yet with so much respect for the opposite perspective👏 Thank you, people like you make the healthier environment..enjoyed reading your post 😊


Thank you so much for the lovely response. The plotting one, I meant by the prenuptial. Not the sleeping.. 😊. It was great to have a discussion with you. 🤗

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