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Posted: 9 years ago
#11
exactly...wats the hurry...he is not even gving his mom the time to adjust to the new idea of sona being not a doc only...
it is natural that dev will be bored with only his mom as company...always so since ishwari said how dev always remains busy with phn...so ishwari shudnt react as if this is the first time dev got up from her side but yes it is the first time he got up from her side to go and stand beside another woman's side 😆

but like ishwari herself said the other day to mamaji yehi jagat ki reet hai...

now dev is to choose...obviously who will go with ishwari's dull colors...cant she see dev has long back shifted to bright colors...ishwari shud stop testing her son's allegiance all the time...

y gv him chance to fail and then act as if her son doesnt love her anymore...sick...
btw supriya is brilliantly portraying this character...extremely fine actress...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Good to see you back with your as usual wonderful analysis post. Looks like its not only just Dev even makers are in too much rush with the plot. Any way now a days i am not keeping much expectations and just going with the flow with out thinking much about whats there in store for us. Welcome back and keep posting more since its pleasure reading your posts.😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: JyotiBThakur

Amazing analysis yet again Maham.👏


Loved it... As always it was a beautiful episode and same goes with your write up. In the coming episodes i want to see some Sona and Dixit sisters scenes... Also i would like to see Dev trying to bond more with the Bose family. It'll be a treat to watch.😊


Thank you Jyoti! I'd love to see all of the same. Would be a nice break from all the stress Ishwari gives us. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy

Great analysis ..it's a pleasure reading your post...I wanted to share my views on two scenories. ...

Regarding photo session it was a tricky situation, since it was happening at home it would have been awakard if they had not included Sona...it would be like treating her as mere employee which is not true.When you introduce your GF to your family things start getting complicated in Indian families. You are either a family member nor a stranger. So no one is wrong in this situation ...for Dev rituals, customs holds no value and for him Sona is already part of him n his family so if you think from his PoV he is not wrong...accepting someone is important for him than any tradions...at the same time it's just a photo why make a big deal if she is included in some of the photos

Now coming to the bedsheet problem., I felt bad for Ishwari .Both Dev and Sona were insensitive .Dev should have spoken to his mom before inviting anyone .When you are new to the family it's not a good idea to try and change things at home or to introduce new traditions...also she could have stayed with Ishwari and helped her instead of selecting her own sheets ...this was an opportunity for her to bond with her future Mil.The purpose of this shopping was not to choose bedsheets for Ishwari mansion...



Thank you! Okay my problem with Dev over the photograph scene is the same one that you stated about the shopping trip. Dev needs to include Ishwari into these decisions. He goes and does these things, assuming that it's all good with his Mother and that is where he is wrong. Maybe Ishwari would have still not been happy about about Sona's inclusion even if Dev had asked her about it but I do feel it would have made some difference. Surprises really don't go down too well with Ishwari. The precap doesn't look that great either smh... I guess I'm just not very crazy about scenarios where Sona has to go through pain and insecurity thanks to the lack of communication and understanding between Ishwari and Dev. Though I think Dev will be more shaken up than Sona tomorrow. Lets wait and watch.

Word to everything you said about the shopping trip. :) Though I think Sona handled it smartly enough today by stating that she had never meant to pick out the sheets for Dev's room and they were for Riya and Nikki's room instead because hey anything to do with Ishwari's daughters is always okay. 😆


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Maham thanks for the splendid writing as usual I am waiting on Sam and your insights on today's episode the written update is giving me bad vibes
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayu1982

Very well written post once again 👏

How do u manage to to write it so well🤔. I can write only 4 lines that too after too much efforts😆

Anyway coming to the point- Yesterday whatever it is shown is more realistic. It may looked very rushed or speedy but it is realistic. In real life no one gives time to their mother after introducing his future would-be. The entire process is very fast and that is reason most of us ( daughter in law and mother in law struggles to keep a healthy relationship😕🤔)

See the difference -








Is communication is the solution of this problem🤔? May be yes but practically it doesn't happened this way.

My personal experience and observation -famous insider story- I can't share the name- but that actor is in love obviously with girl😆( aajkal kuch bhi ho sakta hai😆) but that actor's family was very traditional and wants their daughter in law in full traditional avatar and following traditional rules and regulations very strictly. But actor like his Gf in western avatar , but the very first day he told his Gf to come with him wearing western clothes only. She went wearing western clothes, family were shocked. For almost 2 -3 years family struggled to accept this western avatar bahu, but eventually accept her in western avatar

See my intention to tell this long story is - there is no right time or correct time . Ishwari will still suffer and will feel bad even if - "CHalo Shopping together -together " happens after 1-2 months.😳😆

But yes photography-shotography is beyond my knowledge and understanding

But agree with Nitu for this photography part 😆😆😆


P.S. Sorry for saying some crap .. Virutal killing is still illegal 🤔



Hey Mayu! Thank you for sharing your insights :) I agree with everything you said about Ishwari's reaction to Neha and Ranveer and her reaction to Dev and Sona. From my POV though, its not just that Ishwari was never attached to Neha that way and one day your daughter gets married and all that. The first time Neha confessed about her her love for Ranveer, I saw how determined Ishwari was about the alliance working out because she saw it as a way of removing Neha's previous grievances. In a way, it was a redemption of sorts for her. I remember her saying how they had to protect Neha's happiness/make sure everything works out like she wants. So in a way... Neha and Ranveer getting married was basically everything happening exactly the way Ishwari wanted it to. Her daughter finally gets to move on and she gets some relief from the guilt of neglecting her and not being a good Mother. It's a win win. Needless to say, Dev and Sona's situation is the opposite of Neha and Ranveer's and instead gives light to every single one of Ishwari's demons and the insecurities she has always harbored.

As for us expecting/hoping for Dev to slow down... I guess its also instinctive in most of us because we know how damaging it's going be for Dev and Sona? Personally I just wish and hope that to avert any future disasters. 😆 But I guess it's inevitable anyway so well...

Interesting story you shared. 😆 Its not just about communication here. Its also about learning to adapt to changes. I still don't think Dev should have sprung the shopping trip on Ishwari and Sona like that. Atleast not on the first day. Its like Sam said, Dev believes he is responsible for these two women connecting. He has no idea they already share a meaningful bond and by forcing things he is only damaging the same. We have seen them connect and share on their own pace and its worked out quite well. Maybe a few more days of that before the casual suggestion of an outing together? I actually think if Dev hadn't bulldozed over Ishwari's own plan of spending time with her son and come up with an idea of his own, she might have warmed up to it better. Though with Ishwari, you never really know I guess. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigirl987

Maham missed ur write-up especially last week, glad that you got ur laptop bak , now we get to read ur fabulous analysis ... 😊


Hello hello:) Thank you so much for reading and responding. :) Riya was always intelligent. But she is also the simple, quiet sort. She's very observant though and listens well. Previously we have only seen her be sensitive and perceptive to Neha's pain because she is definitely more closer to Neha than she is to Ishwari. No guesses why.😆 It's a very natural turn therefore, what with everything that has happened lately, that we see Riya learning to understand her Mother better. The incident with the saree on Ishwari's birthday is perhaps the best example. That is mainly what I meant when I mentioned Riya exhibiting a maturity we hadn't seen before. :)

Loved what you have written about the Sona Ishwari scene. I too was reminded of the time she came back to work and Ishwari tried to apologize but Sona chose to lighten up the situation instead.

That's a very valid point you have made about Dev trying to overcompensate due to everything that happened last week. If only he'd go a little slow... Eh who are we kidding? 😆 Tomorrow should be a bit of an eye opener for him though. Lets see.

I too loved that smile on his face as he saw Ishwari and Sona talking, blissfully unaware that things aren't quite as great as they look. 😆

Thank you once again! Loved reading your thoughts too!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Snehavinaya

Wonderful !! Maham, as always u have brought out all the minute details.
Was waiting since last week for your analysis.
U need to write daily to keep us sane as the story line progresses.
Tension is killing me.
I think it is all because of those first promos.
If they had not shown that then it would have been nicer to watch.
Now can't even enjoy devakshi scenes, because in the background always thinking they are going to part.
Looks like waiting for the inevitable.
Still my pov is that Dev is not giving enough time to sona to understand her / know more about her.
As he had promised on the first day.
Isn't that a major drawback ? Things look rushed to me with iswari in the picture, the chances of misunderstanding is high. Don't forget RR - she will also instigate.
So with a visibly weak bond between them , this was bound to happen.
Now neha & her problems also---

where they get time to understand each other?
Most importantly Dev is not worried about Sona's family's acceptance.
In this day & age isn't that important or still boy's family only is important ?
A new concept show should have included that from the beginning -
Rather than my mother / my family.
Sorry for the long rant
I hope maham , u would share your pov on this


Hi Soumya :) Thank you so much. Sorry to keep you waiting! You guys really, really need to relax though. I keep telling this to a friend of mine... It's a story and you can't always focus on the nice parts of a story or a character. I guess I enjoy complexity so I react differently to everything that happens in the show. Yes they are going to part, but not forever. They will marry.. There's apparently an entire section of the plot dedicated to that so lets try and take it easy shall we? :)

Addressing some of your other concerns - Dev actually got a little carried away on the first day. 😆It was very passionate and romantic but that's not how it happens in real life. You don't sit down and interview someone do you, just to get to know them better? Its like Sona said... to know someone, all you have to do is spend time with them. Dev knew a great deal about Sona already before he realized he was in love. He knew her to be a strong, independent woman, someone he admired and respected and someone who was his equal in every way. He could trust her with his deepest thoughts because he knew her to be far more emotionally intelligent than him and thus always went to her for answers. He's seen her dance like a chlid in the rain, discovered how the fiery Dr. Bose can turn several shades of red over the idea of intimacy and is actually quite shy, he knows she is hopeless in the kitchen, that she is scared of the dark, he even knows that as a child she wanted to be an engine driver and why she chose to become a nutritionist. He knows she loves travelling, romantic movies, what her idea of a gift is, how she takes her time in opening up to people... I can go on and on. But most of all... Beyond all these facts and figures, Dev knows Sona for the beautiful soul she has and that is really all that matters. He knows her to be a kind, sensitive, intelligent, perceptive woman (who always happens to be right 😆). It's unfair to say that Dev doesn't know anything about Sona. This is how any relationship works. You talk, you share, you learn random things about each other. You can never learn everything in one go. Lastly, Sona is a pretty straightforward person. She is not like Dev where you have to really dig deep to understand his heart. With Sona its "Jo hai, so hai." She's free spirited and voices her thoughts openly whether it be to tell Dev how much she loves him or to question his own commitment. Dev honestly needs someone like her only because he is so terrible at reading people in general. Any sort of cryptic messages will go right over his head. Sona on the other hand, is always painfully honest with him.

Also, why would you expect everything to be perfect within the first month of their relationship? Yes they will probably fight and misunderstand each other. They already have. Because which couple doesn't? And yet in the aftermath of every one of those fights, I have seen them understand each other better. I don't agree with their bond being emotionally weak at all. On the contrary, I quite admire how the writers have made some very clear efforts to deepen their relationship and allow them to discover more things about each other in the past month... Especially with respect to Dev because he is the more complicated of the two and carries alot of baggage. I have seen them fall even more deeply in love since the confession actually. Even in the promos, I was quite surprised by the strength of their bond. Technically they are separated but we see her question him freely, he explains, she tries to plead that he let her talk to his Mom but he declines and she is able to respect that. I guess other people were more fixated on the point that they aren't together. I, on the other hand, was surprised by the transparency with which they talked to each other and how she could understand his stance even though it caused her pain. There was a rare kind of strength and endurance in their relationship that I was intrigued by. And I have been very happy to see the writers actually working on building such a relationship between them.

I agree about what you said about Dev and Sona's family. I do hope that they give some due focus to that.That's the only thing lacking for me right now.

Hope my answers helped a bit. Take care :)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: FLW70

Great analysis ...as usual...you write so beautifully...keep writing everyday...missed your write ups last week...thanks Maham!!



Thank you so much! 🤗
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samanalyse

Wonderful post as always, Maham! 👏

Even though it makes me feel like I might be in the minority here (😛) I really love the way the character arcs of Sona, Dev and Ishwari are unfolding. And of course, can't forget my favourite Neha! Each of their stories is in conversation with the other's and that is what makes this phase of the story so gripping to me. Over the past few episodes, there is one sentiment that keeps occurring which I think is the core problem. Ishwari and Dev keep repeating that her happiness lies in his happiness, but the way I see it, that is simply not true. Being in denial of the fact that her happiness is something different from Dev's is what is causing so much of Ishwari's personal turmoil.

Today was the perfect example of that. Dev's happiness lay in Sona coming with them and getting to bond with his mother while Ishwari's lay in spending time alone with Dev. Unfortunately, this is where it becomes more complicated than just an issue of communication. To Ishwari it is unthinkable that something that makes Dev happy should be the very thing to take away her happiness. After all, if her entire emotional being is not wrapped up in her son, doesn't that make her a selfish and terrible mother in her own esteem? That's where Neha's direct approach with Ranveer was a breath of fresh air! She sensed Ranveer's silent plea and instead of playing along, opened it right up and brought it to the table. She may not sound as righteous, but at least she is able to communicate with honesty, both to herself and to Ranveer. It's one of the great tragedies of the story so far to see Ishwari trapped in the impossibly high standard she has set for herself, unable to express so simple a desire as an afternoon with her son.

Equally tragic is Dev's complete oblivion and the destruction he is unwittingly causing. As usual, he takes everything at face value, believng that it is entirely his responsibility to build a relationship between Sona and Ishwari, because they are to be related through him. He's unaware of the organic and powerful bond that already exists between the two as evidenced by the scene you so beautifully described. They need so few words and gestures to communicate, and yet so much is said and understood between them. This is the piece of the puzzle that Ishwari has yet to connect; with Sona in the picture (literally with the precap!), her relationship with Dev may change, but it will be complemented by the relationship she will have with Sona! And we've already seen how beautiful that can be: Ishwari and Sona naturally adore each other when everyone is clear about their respective roles. Dev is eagerly smudging the boundaries but as a result is creating awkward and inorganic situations for both women.

I absolutely loved your reading of Sona's actions at the store, and how it fits in with her general tendency to fall back instead of acting on her feelings! I guess it goes to show that I think a lot like her because I completely agreed with the way she did things until I read your post. I figured she was just giving Ishwari and Dev the alone time that she could sense the former wanted. But you're so right. In backing away, she actually exacerbated the either/or-ness of the situation where her usual assertiveness with Ishwari (when Dev is not in the picture) would have worked much, much better. The ticket would have been to exclude Dev (I'm sure he wouldn't have minded!) which Sona could have easily accomplished had she seen Ishwari as her patient and auntyji rather than Dev's Ma. Sona knows just how to put Ishwari at ease, often much better than Dev, but this pressure-cooker of a situation probably stopped her from thinking like her usual self. 😆


Sam! 🤗 Thank you so much :)) I read that absolutely brilliant post you made last week on my phone but couldn't respond. Blasted laptop. Obviously I agreed with everything. 😆

And when have we not been in the minority? 😆 We are suckers for all thing complex.. I guess other people are more normal. 😆 Anyway, that's a great point you made about Dev and Ishwari's happiness being two separate things. That really is a recurring problem. Loved how you contrasted Neha's honesty with Ishwari's struggle to be the perfect Mother. Spot on!

Word word word to everything you said about Dev's obliviousness to the bond that already exists between Sona and Ishwari, his assumption that he is responsible for the same and how in his attempts to bring them close, he is actually damaging the equation they have.

And oh my God, I actually made you see something you hadn't already observed for yourself? 😲 That really is a first. It's always the other way around. 😆 Sona's decision to stay away would have worked out well had Dev not chosen to come up to her. It was natural for him to do that ofcourse, but everything backfired because of it. Had she actually taken a seat besides Ishwari and as you said, Dev had been excluded, then everything would have worked out much, much better. Sona really does know how to put Ishwari at ease doesn't she? Pressure cooker of a situation... I swear. 😆 Lets see if things improve or just go downhill smh.

Thank you for your response.. You know I love to read what you write. 🤗

p.s: And Sam, could you do me a favor? Could you please please PM me whenever you make a new post? I just don't get the time to visit the forum anymore. Wouldn't want to miss out on anything you write though!


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