Is all fair in love?!

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Posted: 9 years ago

May be or may not be!!!!

On one side when this love connects the dots to the hearts, it affects everyone as part of it .. As a viewer when I am connected to these two little hearts, everything that affects them cascades on to me - the feel-good moments or feel-sad moments🤗... Dev and Sona love connects my heart with them, sharing their emotions as my own❤️... There is no right or wrong when it comes to heart to heart ❤️-❤️ connection.. The feelings come out of this connection becomes perfect without calling for any judgment... Whether it's Sona asking for her right to feel for him without hiding.. Or it's Dev's willingness to get it done then and there... Perfect emotional move with no question of being right or wrong...👏👍🏼

On the other side when this love connects dots to one's mind, it twists everything about it🤔.. As a viewer I was looking for a heartily emotional Ishwari whom I loved to empathize with and get connected with.. But this Ishwari currently on-screen is designed to have anything but heart connection😕.. And all her actions were nothing to do with her heart's real feelings.. Instead it was all her mind's doings very consciously... Which can always be questioned for being right or wrong.. Because logic applies to mind and not heart.. If that's not the intention of the writers and they are showing whatever we are seeing as some thing connected deeply to her inner emotions, then the execution is failing big time or the acting is saying otherwise😕... After all of her mind's drama if the CVs think of justifying her actions with some sad story of hers in flashbacks, I don't know how I am gonna buy it.. 🥱

Unless it's a big forward action and flow of events in her prese nt life, I don't know how else they can redeem Ishwari.. And I can't seem to stop waiting to see that happening😆.. An effort from Ish's side to understand the reality of her son's present moment of life and Sona's role in it😳.. Even if it's meant to get them married and have Ishwari witness the lovely life her son is living which can slowly make her self-introspect her own actions and behaviors😉..

Will Dev prove me wrong by taking on a different step of action than what he normally does when it comes to his mother i.e. not surrendering to her without any try for want of not having her disappointed by him??!!!😉

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mena_k

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Posted: 9 years ago

Lovely reading!

A heart to heart analogy. Wow. Such simple yet gets complex when it shifts to your mind. For me now a days I don't feel good when I find Ishwari looking at Dev when he is having a smile on his face or he is laughing like he did when talking to Riya regarding the foreign delegate dinner inside Ishwari' room. Ishwari doesn't look happy at those times but rather always trying to figure out If the happiness is due to her or due to Sona. Pure jealousy and when a mother herself starts getting jealous of her son's happiness, nothing can make her happy not her son's sacrifice nor her son's devotion. Ishwari is exactly at that stage.

Time and again members of the forum have suggested rather emphasized of Dev talking to Ishwari regarding his relationship with Sona so that she stops being insecure. I am glad Dev is finally going to do that. But but as I have always said, the problem with Ishwari was never Dev hiding his relationship status from her but Dev having a girl in his life. Ishwari cannot even in her dreams think Dev ever getting married and now that track is going to be shown. A while ago Maham pointed Dev should disclose to Ishwari not because its the right thing to do but rather to save him from the guilt of hiding things from his mom. Mind it Ishwari never said a yes even for Nats but she was forced to be part of Dev's engagement then only for the deal aspect.

I really had hopes from Mamaji but it seems he himself is not sure of Dev's and Ishwari's relationship and I don't see him coming to Ishwari and explaining things soon. Ha its going to be a roller coaster ride for Dev for sure from Monday onwards. Happiness-confused Ishwari's behaviour and Dev being tubelight wouldn't understand his mother's reactions and meaning behind it. Looking forward to the upcoming track.

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Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: mena_k
Lovely reading!

A heart to heart analogy. Wow. Such simple yet gets complex when it shifts to your mind. For me now a days I don't feel good when I find Ishwari looking at Dev when he is having a smile on his face or he is laughing like he did when talking to Riya regarding the foreign delegate dinner inside Ishwari' room. Ishwari doesn't look happy at those times but rather always trying to figure out If the happiness is due to her or due to Sona. Pure jealousy and when a mother herself starts getting jealous of her son's happiness, nothing can make her happy not her son's sacrifice nor her son's devotion. Ishwari is exactly at that stage.

I really had hopes from Mamaji but it seems he himself is not sure of Dev's and Ishwari's relationship and I don't see him coming to Ishwari and explaining things soon. Ha its going to be a roller coaster ride for Dev for sure from Monday onwards. Happiness-confused Ishwari's behaviour and Dev being tubelight wouldn't understand his mother's reactions and meaning behind it. Looking forward to the upcoming track.

Ishwari doesn't look happy at those times but rather always trying to figure out If the happiness is due to her or due to Sona.

Very well said.. Yes, her mind's too busy thinking thinking only thinking.. she's not allowing herself to feel the moment of his happiness... All her moments are frozen in the past and every action of Dev, she relates to a page from her history book.. Isn 't she stressed out from too much of thinking?! 😆

nothing can make her happy not her son's sacrifice nor her son's devotion

This is something gotta think about.. What will make Ish happy now?! 😆 birthday saree is gone.. doing the Pooja is a big backfire.. falling sick is not gonna help.. something gotta hit the Ishwari chord.. what's it?! Treasure hunt...😆

I really had hopes from Mamaji but it seems he himself is not sure of Dev's and Ishwari's relationship and I don't see him coming to Ishwari and explaining things soon.

Maamaji appears to be holding potential Ishwari traits.. he remembers the child Dev and boosts Ish with more expectations.. Thankfully Ish just said about Dev's change in a calm tone.. or all drama is reserved only for Sona?!😆

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Aiswarya

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Posted: 9 years ago

Sorry to disagree on ua take on ishwari
There are mny such ishwaris around us... n CVS are doing a brilliant job by interpreting the harsh side of ishwari... you can't connect with her bcz u believe such people don't exist... bt they do dear... :-(
And omg hw cud u say the actress failed in her part... supriyaji is the best and finest actress in tellywood... she have nailed it by interpreting the grey sides in a mother...hats off to her

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randommusings

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Posted: 9 years ago

Nice analysis.

Till now they have always given an explanation for Ishwari's behavior whether it was possesiveness for Dev, rudeness to Sona initially, Neha's childhood struggle, support for GKB. If she did something wrong, she wud be ready to apologise. She wud accept her mistakes and wud feel guilty. And so we could sympathise with her.

But the current track shows Ishwari as downright rude to Sona even after she realised its not a one sided affair, but even Dev loves her. What would happen if Sona tells Dev what all his mother has said to her 😭 Sona will nvr do that but atleast Ishwari shud rembr this.

I was amazed when Dev was unwell, Ishwari was complaining why is Dev making his mother suffer. Atleast when your son is ill, think about his wellbeing, not your own sufferings.

Everytime someone points out Dev is happy, Ishwari gets restless as this happiness is bcoz of Sona and not bcoz of her. She is being selfish by not thinking abt Dev's happiness. Instead of encouraging his son to confide in her, she is on a mission to make Dev feel guilty.

We would have sympathised with Ishwari had she suffered in silence without insulting Sona n playing guilt game with her own son. Its hard to justify why Dev Sona have to separate for a spiteful Ishwari. Maybe she wud get extremely sick, otherwise very hard to justify the separation track.

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_Payalj_

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Posted: 9 years ago

Maybe the aim of the cvs is to show the psychological imbalance of ishwari and make the audience sympathise with the leads. Fine, but 25 minutes every episode spent on showing the demented behaviour of Ishwari are a big turn off.

We all know that such mothers exist. But then so do serial killer and rapists. Do we like to watch shows on them? I know I am comparing a mother to such people but Ishwari is also being extremely cruel both to her son and Sona and her antics are leaving a very bad taste in the mouth.

Ishwari is behaving like a snake that eats it's own young. But audience interest and sympathy for Dev and Sona will slowly vanish if they don't show Dev soon taking a stand or Sona giving it back to GKB and Ishwari.

Real life is always painful and nothing is easy but at least in a show can we expect a little positivity? I know in the end everything would be fine but the journey to the end should not be emotionally taxing for the audience.

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: ash_devnarshi
Sorry to disagree on ua take on ishwari
There are mny such ishwaris around us... n CVS are doing a brilliant job by interpreting the harsh side of ishwari... you can't connect with her bcz u believe such people don't exist... bt they do dear... :-(
And omg hw cud u say the actress failed in her part... supriyaji is the best and finest actress in tellywood... she have nailed it by interpreting the grey sides in a mother...hats off to her

Glad that you brought this out... Thanks for giving me a chance to explain further...😃

Yes, agree Ishwaris' do exist.. I have no doubt about it... And this kind of Ishwari what's seen in the recent episodes are in abundant around in real and in serials too... And this kind of Ishwaris I don't relate to because I find them very much manipulative and emotionally blackmailing... Supriyaji isn't needed to do that kind of character... Any X and Y can do it... And I am not even liking to hate this character...

That's not what I thought this Ishwari gonna be based on the earlier episodes... When Natasha thing happened that Ishwari was too good... And such Ishwaris too exist but in rare kind... Who wants to be happy for her son but couldn't for some reason and not know what's the reason... And that's where Surpiyaji brings out the difference from other serial MILs/insecure mother... Only she's capable of bringing that nuance to this character... This character isn't like any other MIL or insecure mother that we get to see day in and out... The Ishwari in the earlier episodes were very very special and Surpiyaji takes all the credit for that...👏

I was relating to that Ishwari very much because one of my close family member is of that kind... I can't hate that person or judge that person for whatever actions she was doing because she doesn't even know that she was doing all that but in actual she was in all goodwill for her son... I really saw that person in this character... That's were I loved to love Supriyaji as that Ishwari.. This Ishwari is outright her alter-ego a complete different personality...

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: randommusings
Nice analysis.
Till now they have always given an explanation for Ishwari's behavior whether it was possesiveness for Dev, rudeness to Sona initially, Neha's childhood struggle, support for GKB. If she did something wrong, she wud be ready to apologise. She wud accept her mistakes and wud feel guilty. And so we could sympathise with her.

But the current track shows Ishwari as downright rude to Sona even after she realised its not a one sided affair, but even Dev loves her. What would happen if Sona tells Dev what all his mother has said to her 😭 Sona will nvr do that but atleast Ishwari shud rembr this.

I was amazed when Dev was unwell, Ishwari was complaining why is Dev making his mother suffer. Atleast when your son is ill, think about his wellbeing, not your own sufferings.

Everytime someone points out Dev is happy, Ishwari gets restless as this happiness is bcoz of Sona and not bcoz of her. She is being selfish by not thinking abt Dev's happiness. Instead of encouraging his son to confide in her, she is on a mission to make Dev feel guilty.

We would have sympathised with Ishwari had she suffered in silence without insulting Sona n playing guilt game with her own son. Its hard to justify why Dev Sona have to separate for a spiteful Ishwari. Maybe she wud get extremely sick, otherwise very hard to justify the separation track.

Yes yes yes... Missing... very badly missing that Ishwari... I am just holding all my emotions in tact to empathize with her... Surpriyaji was brilliant to squeeze in my inner emotions which I never thought that they existed... Empathizing with a mother who is expected to be on a role to just play an ideal/perfect mother... But I loved to see that mother as a human with emotional flaws struggling between being a mere human with simple emotional expectations vs a perfect mother with ideal characteristics... That Ish is still lingering in my flashback (Thanks to the CVs for so many flashbacks 😆) and waiting to see her in the present times as well... The way Ish went to pray to God during Natasha time, "Oh god I want to be happy for my son but why am I not able to.. And why is this nervousness"

@bold: Even one thought of Ishwari talking to herself "Oh my son is so happy... On seeing him happy I should be happy too... But why am I not... " I am just waiting for that one moment from Ish... all her drama maaf... 😆 That much I want to adore this character but the CVs are not letting me... 😆

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: _Payalj_
Maybe the aim of the cvs is to show the psychological imbalance of ishwari and make the audience sympathise with the leads. Fine, but 25 minutes every episode spent on showing the demented behaviour of Ishwari are a big turn off.
We all know that such mothers exist. But then so do serial killer and rapists. Do we like to watch shows on them? I know I am comparing a mother to such people but Ishwari is also being extremely cruel both to her son and Sona and her antics are leaving a very bad taste in the mouth.

Ishwari is behaving like a snake that eats it's own young. But audience interest and sympathy for Dev and Sona will slowly vanish if they don't show Dev soon taking a stand or Sona giving it back to GKB and Ishwari.

Real life is always painful and nothing is easy but at least in a show can we expect a little positivity? I know in the end everything would be fine but the journey to the end should not be emotionally taxing for the audience.

But this reality show of a regular MIL type Ishwari is available in abundance everywhere... Why show the same reality show? 🥱... There is also someone else of the other Ishwari type hidden behind their picture perfect motherly image with an emotional background of being hurt like any other human beings... That's what I wanted to see in this Ishwari... 🤔 And I was all ready to be emotionally taxed by the other type Ishwari who has the caliber to squeeze my inner most feelings with her one dejected/insecure look at Dev looking for some signs in his face but then trying hard to be her normal self when she's expected to be the mother!!!

And this Ishwari is only appearing to be a joker to me making me laugh... 😆

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