wtf: 18 Oct 2009

PCP NOTE: This is not being posted by Estee. She had mailed it to me in a super mad rush from JFK, and I was unable to put it up till now. Terribly sorry -- don't tell her or I'll hear a Earfull when she is back. 😆 --- PCP.

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y'know? all through the long darned queues at the airline counters, the longer darn queues at immigration, the long darned wait before boarding, the kdmhmd story had been buzzing 'round my head like one of those persistent, irritating flies that just refuse to leave you alone. i guessed that meant a wtf. 😆 so here i am, when i should've been working on improving the presentation.

wtf #1: the only real new thing to wtf -- why is heer being so accepting of ashlesha?

hasn't her reaction been odd? or am i misreading heer? i remember watching the first time that ashlesha showed up at the wedding -- everyone else was shocked and then disgusted.

well, glob was shocked and then pleased. gi-it looked rather expressionless; if there was an expression, it was puzzlement.

heer's was the most muted reaction of them all. of course, one thing about heer is that she has never liked to be open about her reactions in front of other people. and what she said was right -- if she had done a knee jerk horrified reaction it would been a spectacle for the public to ogle at. for them to think that she still had less than perfect trust in prem. and she could never stand for that.

so, no, i kinda understood her reaction at the wedding. but it has been her reactions to ashlesha after that, that i'm beginning to be puzzled at: to defend ashlesha to prem? that was odd. i thought maybe it was 'cause she thought he was very troubled, and didn't need her worries to add to his own. and that is of course, very heerish. still... i thought it was slightly odd. 'specially given her extreme reaction six years ago. oh well. i guess we'd have to watch further to see what happens.

'cause i was tempted to think of a very twisted thought: it's so funny that no-one had even a moment of doubt that heer was bringing up prem's child. no one -- not even us -- for a moment, even doubted that chahat was prem's. so. uh.. do we have to ask if she is heer's?

*ha! how's that for a twist!!??? 😆* *PCP Note: Completely and seriously unbelievable! How have you managed to get THAT MUCH COFFEE into your bloodstream even with Auntu around, I have NO IDEA!!!*

in case you can't tell -- i am seriously ready for a prem-heer-catch-up-with-heer-chahat's-past episode(s) right now! 😆 *PCP Note: Yes, and reading your possible twist above, I DO WISH they would give you some right now! It's a good thing you wrote this while you were far away from me -- I'd have SOOO Thumped you, post op-knees or not! Duffer!*

wtf #2: what new unpleasantly unbelieveable path is this story going to take next? 🤔

'cause anyone'd be tempted to wonder why or how a story with prem-heer-are-one is still trying to ''bring distance'' between prem-heer-are-one. but watching the odd, artificial way they did it the last time -- by making the loveliest mother into a bottom-of-the-pond-slime-sucking-green-faced-disaster of a woman -- i'm not really looking forward to what they are going to do next.

'cause, personally? i can't believe that whatever happened to the glob was even fictionally possible. i don't think that people like gayatri-mom could scheme and twist like we saw in this story. it happened even before the death of vitchface -- the death itself imho is a convenient excuse the scriptwriters are using to justify where glob is today, who she is today. but the reasons that she got there was totally unbelieveable.

just as the way that prem went ballistic and did his screaming-demo after seeing the cctv recording of heer and ig-idiot. i do not believe that prem would ever do that. especially given everything that had happened to him before, and how heer had dealt with the whole thing. i thought that that one moment of act by prem was totally unbelieveable. (among other things that prem has done on this show that i consider totally unbelieveable. actually prem has often been painted as doing unpleasantly unbelieveable stuff on this show, hasn't he? 🤔 )

so i guess that i almost know that they are going to do something else that is unbelieveable on this show as an excuse for trying to bring distance between prem and heer. and i'm just not looking forward to it. 🤔

wtf #3: and btw, on that list of ''totally unbelieveable'' comes ''cute prem-heer''. 😆 *PCP Note: Hey, Stu, lay off. Cute's better than Crying, remember? 😆*

''cute'' would've been what meet did. ''funny'' would've been what harman(new/old)-maya did. ''avoidable'' would've been what pbauji-glob did. 🤣 i'd put kuldi in the ''cute'' list except that these days she is more a prop for meher than anything more, no? 🤔 ''cute prem-heer'' are ... not quite prem-heer. even grown up. especially after their six-month long separation. watching ''cute prem-heer'' is like watching an alternative universe-version of this show -- still the only watchable show on hindi tv, but completely different from what we had been watching pre-six-year-tls**.

wtf#4: one interesting thing that happened in this week's shows was that pbauji still called it the ''ramayan''.

hmmm! what happens next in this version of the ''ramayan'', i wonder? w&w. with dread! 🤣

** tls: time line shift.

wtf #5: oh, and btw? wtf stands for weekend thoughts feature, 'kay?? even though it's past the weekend.... 😆

have phun, guys. paris, here i come!!! 😃

in case you didn't know, the creatives are planning on revealing ash's and the glob's truth. the way they go about is a w&w thing. 😆 oh btw, i am waiting for my souvenir from paris! 😃

*reserved*

Ravz -- may I call you that?

She didn't post -- I did. The preetstess is still away -- and procuring ''berets'' and ''chapeaux''!!! 😆 If you knew her the way I do, that is soo.... unbelieveable! She would lose them the day she wore them!

Stu, I really don't see where you are going with questioning Heer being Phukda's mom. And what does that have to do with Ashlesha?? Are you trying to imply that Ashlesha is the child's mother??!!! Then no way can Prem be the father, right??!

I HATE it when you drive me crazy with your crazy ideas -- and I can't even beat you up for it! ARGH!

PS: Ha! I can too get my own IF.com ID if I want to! So there! How d'you like the name? *Preening because I just KNOW you are going to be jealous.... 😆*

@ vice.versa: Yes you can call me that =) And I realized that after I saw it😆 I was just too excited to see the post😆

@vice.versa/pcp/vani, glad to see u r better.🤗

@PCP: thanks a ton for posting this. BTW glad to meet you finally. I thought you were part of E's vivid imagination and somebody called PCP didn't exist. And please do thump her on the knees when she returns. When is she going to be back? Because the only way the show will make some sense to me is when I read her btlt. BTW i do agree cute Prem-Heer are far far better than crying Prem-Heer. Though I really really wish they tone Prem down a bit. He is way too hyper even for his own good. Like everyone me too w&w and dreading as to how much they'll destroy Prem and Heer more in the pretex of revealing the truth.

@E: Miss you already. Come back soon. Thot won't get a WTF this week. It's strange that you kind of qustnd Chahat;s parentage. Because as i watched the show yest I couldn't help but thinking that myself. Esp in scenes between Heer and Chahat and Prem-Heer-Chahat. I don't know why I felt that. But I refuse to even think about it further because no matter how twisted the story gets or how weird Prem and Heer act Chahat is their child. Just like I believe that this story is all about Prem and Heer being one similarly I believe that Chahat is their daughter.

BTW my WTF doesn't stand for weekend thought feature.

WTF: are they doing with Prem? Why does he jump around so much? I totally love Prem being all excited and desparate with Heer (when they are alone) because somewhere I have always believed that Prem will and has to be different in his interaction with Heer esp after they were married (and it is a sad thing that we never got to see them spend some quality time right after they got married the first time). and now when we see them all happy and excited we can't relate to it. But I still don't understand why, at times, Prem has to be screaming or be so over the top with Chahat and his family? In the pre wedding rituals it was strange to see him be so open about his desperation, in front of his family, to be with Heer . Though it was cute but it wasn't Prem. I so miss that intense and passionate Prem, who didn't need any words and whose eyes said everything that was in his heart. I just saw a teeny weeny glimpse of him during the wedding and in their room that night. I miss him. I miss him terribly. Wonder will we ever get to see him? But I will admit that this Prem is much better than the crying Prem (i hate, hate to see him cry) which we have been subjected to for the last 18 odd months. Since character sketch or growth is not in our hands we have no option but to grin and bear or quit watching (I so wish I could do that.)

WTF: is wrong with Heer? Why is she so forgiving of Ash? It took her six years to trust Prem but didn't take her even 6 hours to trust Ash? How absurd is that? Agreed she has point about Ash wanting to do anything all these years but not doing it, but the very fact that she landed up at their wedding should have been an indication that Ash's not changed. But then Heer has been pretty dumb when it came to judging people. Esp the evil ones. What puzzles me most is her reaction to Gaya3. Inspite of Gaya3 being so open about her feelings towards Heer and the remarriage, Heer still thinks that everything is hunky dory!! I really don't understand Heer's people judging yardstick. I think she somehow seems to trust the bad people more easily than the good ones. Very strange.

thanks again.

Hi everyone. Thanks for the notes that you left me -- along with the ones to Stu. 😆 I am SO glad that you all agree that

• Chahat IS Heer's daughter (somehow I don't think even Stu's silly enough to think she is not Prem's. 😆)
• Cute Prem-Heer are WAY better than Crying Prem-Heer. But then again, that's Stu -- she insists on perfection. Always. And she is quite ziddi about such things. The tantrums that she can throw off this forum on this aspect of a story is incredible. Trust me. 😃

Biraj, Hope: Thank you. Yes, I'm on the road to getting better. Hope, they are my knees that are the bottleneck to Stu getting thumped for thinking such silly thoughts about Chahat and Prem-Heer. I had talked to her while she was at JFK -- I really think that it was the coffee writing that part of the WTF. 😆

Hope: On Prem -- I too am confused about why Harshad plays Prem like that with Chahat. It confuses me especially because I think that he really plays Prem against Heer very well. Maybe it is just because these days the script may be getting done more on a one-day-to-the-next basis rather than a full coherent story line? Or maybe the director's instructions are like that for Prem? Harshad sounds like he plays strictly by the script, no?

On Heer -- I think that her reaction to Ashlesha confused Stu so much because it needs for Heer to still be an innocent about life for her to behave that way? So far, we have been shown Heer to have suffered a lot in the last six years -- and I thought she would have changed from the old innocent Heer who preferred to trust people than not trust them. I thought that Heer's reaction to Gayatri was actually Superb -- that she would FIGHT to prove to Gayatri that she is her daughter. I liked that because it was a Grownup Heer who said that -- not the old innocent Heer who would take any nonsense blindly from anyone. This was a Heer who did things with a purpose. I do not yet understand how such a grownup, mature Heer would present such an accepting face to Ashlesha, the woman who she believes was unscrupulous enough to sleep her with husband. Or perhaps, it is because she believes that Ashlesha did not do it on purpose to hurt them -- that it was an accident. Just like she believes that it was an accident that happened to Prem -- who she now believes did not do it on purpose to hurt her (which she might have believed 6 years ago?). So if she can forgive Prem, why not Ashlesha? I must run this by Stu and figure out what she thinks of this reasoning.

I agree with you -- I do not understand Gayatri. If she believes that she has any power, why did she not throw a fuss earlier? Because she knows that Prem would not take it? She looks like she is biding her time and opportunity. But it is HORRID the way they have, and are continuing to twist the character of Gayatri -- what a nasty woman, saying nasty things, she has become now.

I did not mind Geet -- I want to have a true friend for Heer. I remember Stu telling me Geet is Heer's Preet. And I don't mind a character like that in this story.

On the rest, I agree with Stu -- It is about time that they told us what the family went through six years ago. They look like they are dragging out every character's story to fill the gap between now and the time they have to shut down the show. It doesn't seem to matter to them that they are damning this story to hell. A pity because I think it started off and was a Great story until the 6-year TLS.

As Stu would say, W&W. Unlike her (and maybe you as well?), not with dread. 😆