29, 30 jun '09: big things, little things

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argh!!! heer's trying to get married!???!?!?!? to someone other than prem???! again??? will this girl never learn??!!! 😆

boy! they weren't kidding when they said they were taking the story back to the beginging, were they? prem alone, and waiting for the love of his life (again). heer feeling betrayed by prem (again) and trying to get hitched to someone else. only this time not for the happiness of her parents. but for the happiness of someone to whom she is a parent, perhaps? *sigh* more sacrificial heer anyone??! ar....*cutting short my screech and sounding strangled before getting back to the bt,lt... *

29 jun

* little thing: y'know? i think i got that they wanted to remind us of prem and heer's separation on friday. but *sigh* i do wish they had done it with new footage, in a nicer way... *siiiiigggh*

* little thing: ooh, mad spinning lady! who has been tying a prayer at heer-prem's ajmer dargah every year for them. how sweet was that.. 😍 although, poor lady. who put that big fat ''om'' mark on her forehead??!

* little thing: doves! 🤣

* little thing: oooh, lj's beard has finally gone white! er... so is that 'cause his hair genetically was meant to go white at this age, 6 years later. or is it that he has given up on such worldly pursuits as dying his hair? no, no, this is important to understand the psychology that is lj... seriously. 😆

* little thing: four kids 'round lj. who lj calls ''khothey''! gee, isn't that a strange appellation from a grandfather to grandkids? after all, they are his genes, right? ''khothey''... lj, careful or we'll think you do know down-down that you are an ass. 😆

* little thing: *sigh* y'know? i seriously detest the entire karwa chaut ceremony thingie. worst possible demonstration of keeping indian woman-hood in ''their place'', imho. i mean, just as an experiment, i would love to ask whether all women would just not do this one year -- and see how many husbands suffer. seriously... 🤣

*sigh* and to celebrate siuch an antiquated idea with all that pomp and ceremony... personally, it kinda turns my tummy. 🤢

* little thing: lj abdicating his role as story-teller and leaving it to the younger generation... how many roles is he going to abdicate?? head of the family, grandfather as story teller, protector of his maan-friend's kids happiness, protector of his own son's happiness, keeper of indian traditions... next?

* little thing: gaali-maa smiling. why did that make me feel instantly want to hurl my shoes at the screen?? 😡

* little thing: ohhhhh-kay! can we stop with the nri and the stoooopid english accent thing, please?? that must be the oldest, most-tried and boring thing on hindi-tv-serial-dom by now, no??

* little thing: gosh, kuldi never ages, does she? 😆 she always comes across more as a sister or a baby-sitter to her kids than their mother? 😆

* little thing: ''doh-r thi''??? really? thi? aur woh ab kya hai? 😆

or, or! is ''doh-r thi'' short for ''doh rey mi fah so lah thiiiii'' 🤣

highlight of the episode: er... was that an episode? really? 'kay. if you say so. then, the highlight was... lj's white-ish beard? 😆

30 june

* little thing: hmm. jzoo-in-canada family head-count: there's gaali-maa, kuldi, kiran. four kids. there's maya, and there's meher -- who seems to be quite pally with each other now. there's harman. and -- omg! -- (god of smiles) preet!!!!

* little thing: heh. but that kid ketan has a sense of humour. like the way he said '''kay, ma... ya.'' and the ''once again a clash between indians and the english.'' 😆

* little thing: man, but is that little girl's of meher's a heavy little thing or what? meher was literally huffing and puffing as she picked her up. and btw, what was that name again - gunn? and what does little gunn do with her socks?? 😆

* little thing: meher hitting ''doh-r thi'' on the head when she comes to help preet with his coat. or wondering what the white girl is doing with her husband. hmm. meher's sitll possessive 'bout preet, i see. 😃

* meet thing: o. m. g. they are such a lovely pair. preet is still as wicked as he used to be with his wife as earlier. '''kay, please don't start that again!''. or yanking her to the side to do some heavy-breathing with his wife. *ssssiiiiigggghhh* 😍 or that under-the-breath ''give me a kiss'' that preet whispered to meher outside, while the east-european lady took their daughter off to school.

* little thing: ewww... but harman-maya have not grow up well, have they? and who's arjun -- one of the little ''kothay''s that were sitting the lj in the previous episode? and what happened to make harman juneja become a house-husband? now that i find most interesting -- much better than the karwa chaut thingie. (just mho...)

* little thing: totally liked the kid's intro to ''prem juneja''. ''be it a family function. or someone's b'day. or anyone's problems!!!!!!!'' that last one was very interesting!! so prem juneja no longer bails the rest of the juneja's out of their troubles??! oooh, prem's really, really been hit hard by heer's leaving him... oooooooh. prem... 😍not that i've suddenly started liking him or anything, mind you. still hate 'm.

* prem juneja thing:butt seriously? 😆 do not like long shots of prem from the back if he's wearing all black. no really, there's no point. the black kinda hides all the ... er... ''bottom wiggle''** action. 🤣

but long shots of prem from the front when he's wearing all black, oh. my. phrooling-all-over-anything-in-front-of-me gosh. gosh. gosh. o.m.g.

* prem-in-glasses thing: two reactions.
  1. hey! prem's back in glasses!!! it must be a canada thing, no? 'cause he used to have glasses while in canada as a kid, and as a teenager -- for his school prom, etc. then he lost it. and now look, he's back in canada and he's back into glasses. man! if the reason they showed us all those shots of young prem in glasses was to show us prem-juneja-in-glasses today, they had a heck of a lot of planning and foresight in making the story, eh? 🤣
  2. when i see prem in those glasses... i just to rip 'em off his face! i mean, c'mon, dude! in front of those eyes?? and those eyelashes??!!! like the old calvin klein ad goes, ''nothing (ought to) come between me and prem's eyelashes.'' 😆 and thinking to the logical conclusion -- think of these stoooopid things during a kiphph -- they are sooooo going to break the flow!!! darn, darn, darnit! man, those stoooopid undershirt thingies of prem have got competition of most hated article of clothing prem has to wear!! arrrggg!!!
hmmm! i think i've found a new job! person who will remove prem's glasses from his face when he is done. (and occassionally ''accidentally'' drop 'em on the ground and even more accidentally grind 'em under her heels...) 😆

* prem thing: prem, stone-like and still today, should've reminded me of prem, still and stone-like, before he met heer. but... he isn't the same, is he? there is such a world of a difference between that prem and this prem. that prem was still. he was intense. but that stillness was the stillness of an as-yet-unfurled flower? waiting to open up, waiting to breathe, waiting to experience laughter, waiting to experience joy.

this prem? this prem is .. carved in stone. graven. like the stone statues of the old kings, with deep lines on their face of worry and strife and sorrow of having killed so many people, of having seen so many loved ones die. that's what today's prem's face reminds me of. is soooo weird how there is not a line on the surface of those cheeks. or around those eyes. but i can still see 'em - as if they are engraved on the face of prem's heer-deprived soul. he comes across like he has been burdened by the sorrow of his guilt and a lack of his heer for so long, that he has -- as the kid said -- really forgotten how to smile. things called a smile doesn't come close to his eyes -- not even when he sees those two doves outside his window...

*er, btw, do doves rest on the windowsills of high-rise buildings? i want to know... 😆*

* hc thing: 'kay -- it might be that i have the entire context of the story. i don't know if that feeling of lines on the face of prem's soul comes across to everyone who watched prem today -- even if they had not seen the earlier part of this show. but hc, man! watching prem weighed my heart down in misery too. you rock, dude.

* little thing: er.. canada is now called canatta by people who live there? er.. since when? 🤣🤣🤣

* little thing: ewww... gaaali-maa is match-making for prem?! with a name like chandni?? was that an inside joke or s'thing?

(btw, smits! i sooo remembered destiny while watching this! remember that time when prem took heer out to dinner; and there were those obnoxious prem-mom-in-law-wanna-be's there??! man! this part soooo reminded me of that! gee, are you sure that you are not script-writing for them, smits? are you??!)

* little thing: meher remembering heer... *sigh* i can't believe that preet-meher came to canada with the rest of the jzoo family.

* little thing: detest karwa chauth so i kinda tuned out here. except i must say i totally fell off 🤣-ing when gaali-maa took out that paper picture of lj's and put it next to the moon to guzzle water. and those obnoxious large-women-neighbour types coming to twist the knife into her by commenting on ''breaking your fast with a picture.. again??!''

well, at least one good thing came out of this karwa chaut thingie -- we learn that obnoxious large-women-neighbour-types can be found everywhere in the world, not just ludhiana. 🤣

* little thing: gaali-maa looking at her family and realising that she is surrounded by troubled relationships. eat burning coals, gaaali-maa. and let them burn your entire digestive system as you skirt around the issue that you were never the reason for a great family -- it was first prem, and then heer, who kept those relationships alive.

'cause the most telling thing she told herself was the first statement: ''oh, i am sooooo alone.'' what a bloomin' selfish dame. go ahead, large woman, who obviously didn't stop eating 'cause she was miserable unlike her poor step-son! 😡 feel the same thing that you pushed upon prem and heer's hearts! eat burning coals, gaali-maa. and burn from the inside. 😡

* hc thing: did i mention that his projecting total, absolute, soul-engraved-misery is amazing?? prem's face did not lighten -- even when he looks at the moon, that he imagines is appearing for ''her''... *sigh*

* heer thing: she is getting married?????!!!! and that too to a guy who is soooooo different from prem in soooo many ways!! what? you didn't notice?? let me point out a few:
  1. item 1: prem's voice -- deep as the darkest lake on the top of the world in ladakh. this guy's voice -- like the sound of one of those pee-pee-pee pipes that are sold on the street-side in bombay to little kids who then drive everyone mad by blowing them all day till the pipes break/are-broken-discretely-by-a-maddened-adult. 😡
  2. item 2: prem's leonine mane, which begs to be finger-stroked no matter which desh he is in, and which hasn't been puffed up by those heer-is-nearby winds in soooo long. poor hair. this guy's hair -- like it has been pulled for three hours to make it get that long.
  3. item 3: prem -- who one instantly hates. this guy -- who one instantly wants to crush and roll up in one's fist into a ball-sized so small that no-one will be able to find him even with a 10x magnifying glass.
and btw, why doesn't someone give this guy some glasses to wear?? that way my fingers won't itch to destroy glasses all the time!

aaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh!!!! heer! *breathing deeply and thinking furiously to calm myself* actually, it's better this way -- if she'd picked out someone like prem, i'd have really broken my tv-set!

my heart is breaking. has heer been sooo badly hurt by prem that she has been able to put him aside in such a deep part of her heart, that she can even think of having someone else in her life?? how many people is heer thinking of cheating -- other than herself??? has heer really really really managed to bury prem-heer-are-one??! prem-heer-are-one, damnit!! how can heer bury that??! how??!

*sigh* if i had a wish for this show, it was always that we got to see a smart reason for whatever horrid thing was happenening to our characters. like the time that we found prem was faking his death all along -- for me that was okay, as long as they could tell us a good reason for it. but (as triv said) they didn't, 'cause a hole-in-the-hea[d/rt] was not a good reason, no matter what prem said! i suppose now they could tell us that heer is getting married to this guy 'cause it is going to be a better social environment for her little daughter. if it had been just her, then it might not have mattered if she was alone. but for a little girl, a woman needs a husband? man, i am going to get sooo mad when they try to tell us that -- but it will certainly be better than finding out that heer just gave in to the pressure of this guy persuing her and persuading her that his love will be enough!

argh, i so hate this story. i do. 😔 i don't want prem to have to go through the grind of having to prove prem-heer-are-one all over again -- and that too to heer, of all the people in the world!! 😔 although...

* estee confession thing
: although i must say, my heart is beating faster at the thought of seeing that ''tum sochchtey kuch ho, maantey kuch ho...'' scene between ... adult prem and heer. um.... much, much, much faster! so fast, that i think i'm gonna go *thud!* just imagining it!... *thud!!*

* little thing: y'know? i thought that heer can't be getting married -- she's not divorced from prem. but i think -- by the laws of the land that is india -- a six-year separation period is enough time for a divorce to go through automatically! 😔 gosh! is that why they picked six years??!!! 😔😔😔 or will prem have to come to sign divorce papers?? is that what will get him to india? a place that he said he will never go back to today? 'cause then, heer will have to come to canada, no?

well, actually, that might be an interesting thing to happen to the story!? kis desh mein hai mera dil -- moves to canada. 'cause the ''desh'' that matters is truly just the one where his heart beats for her... hmmmm 😍

* prem-heer thing:
omg, the contrast between prem and heer wrenched whatever beats in my chest in place of my heart!

prem looks like he has been living with heer in his head - to the exclusion of the rest of the world, no? like no-one else really exists for him.

heer looks like she has truly given up on prem. *i'm still going to fiercely hold on to heer never having given up on prem-heer-are-one. 'cause that can never happen -- it just can't!* but unlike prem, she probably had to live her life 'cause of her little daughter. 'cause when someone is so absolutely dependent on you, like a child, you just don't have the luxury to shut down like prem has. *sigh* hope, fatima, and the rest of you who wrote saying you felt sorry for prem 'cause he had noone -- you were right. this is truly the difference between ''having someone'' and ''having no-one'' that we are seeing in this difference between prem and heer, no?

and while, i do like that heer is not as unhappy as prem -- 'cause i thought she had had sooo much unhappiness before -- i... i... actually, y'know? i'm not sure what it is that made me feel so unhappy at the end of the show today.. i feel it. but i can't write it out. 😔

*sigh* man, i hate this story. and i hate prem and heer. i hate 'em from the bottom of my non-existent heart. 😔

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* little background score thing: did anyone else feel really really happy when they played the same old score after prem said that he was never gonna go back to india (to his office team) and then sat down?? oh, i was soooo relieved to hear it! a part of prem's old world remained -- and i was strangely tearfully glad for it. 😍 it was soo happy in contrast to prem's unshakeable stillness, no??
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highlight of the episode: prem removing those stoooopid glasses off his face! yes!!! those eyes... those eyelashes... all in clllllose close-up detail... 😍 no, seriously. was there any other highlight today?? 😆 i don't like 'em glasses. hmmm... if i could stand the sight of gaali-maa's face, i'd put her being miserable as one of the highlights. but i really can't stand the sight of her face anymore. so i won't. hmmm.... oooh, ya! meet making out (or trying to) in their room. btw, what is with little girls and breaking up totally yummy almost-kiphphes, eh?? i think we should ban all little girls from this show... *pouting in disappointment muh*

** ''bottom wiggle'' action: for the confused, check the bt,lt of 06/24/08... 🤣
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=978078

or just watch that episode. it is not at all painful to watch, i assure you. although, i must warn you -- you need to set aside some time specially for it. and watch ''it'' ..uh..carefully. 🤣
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: estee

argh!!! heer's trying to get married!???!?!?!? to someone other than prem???! again??? will this girl never learn??!!! 😆



its not her getting married...its some other girl...Jay & Panchi (of Kayamath are doin cameo)...i guess they want us to think it Heer is getting married...she's just the wedding planner....im sure they wont show us the bride yet till friday maybe..and make us bliv the bride is Heer...

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: khushix


its not her getting married...its some other girl...Jay & Panchi (of Kayamath are doin cameo)...i guess they want us to think it Heer is getting married...she's just the wedding planner....im sure they wont show us the bride yet till friday maybe..and make us bliv the bride is Heer...



😕 mod-am happiness -- are you sure??

'cause that woman who was standing around did call her ''prettier than the moon, like a bride to be'', didn't she??

i mean, i get she is a wedding planner -- that brightly chattering list of what needs to be done in a wedding was sooooooo non-heer! 'specially when she reassured that lady that the jewellry is all ready.

but i got the idea that she was to be the bride.

oh, if she isn't, i'll be as glad as ... an alphonso mango that is all ready to be eated! 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
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yay...prem is back!...his hot looks are back!!!!

i soooo love him.........
will be back after reading
'kay i'm back!!
will not comment on 29th coz it was not an epi for me......but....lemme join you...i had the same feelings as you the moment i saw gmom all smiling......and my heart ached remembering the pain she had given my prem.....but the moment i saw her all alone and she herself confessing that...i don't know y...but i felt sooo relieved.....as if...i was witnessing something that i had never did.....i didn't know why i was feeling so....then her words echoed in my ears...rem she had said......." jo jaisa karta hai....woh uska fal isi janam mein bhogta hai"....so gmom....just look in your past....you are reaping watever u had sowed.....
hmmm.......
coming to the best part of 30th june.......😍
you know wat...lemme confess.....prem made me fall in love with him all over again......
😍
* prem juneja thing:butt seriously? 😆 do not like long shots of prem from the back if he's wearing all black. no really, there's no point. the black kinda hides all the ... er... ''bottom wiggle''** action. 🤣
🤣🤣🤣yes...yes.....i know very well wat this bottom wriggle reference is all abt😉..well i agree with you.....all black black hides loads of things......i wish he would have worn the same pajamas he did that day....then all the action would have been clearly visible😉
when i see prem in those glasses... i just to rip 'em off his face! i mean, c'mon, dude! in front of those eyes?? and those eyelashes??!!! like the old calvin klein ad goes, ''nothing (ought to) come between me and prem's eyelashes.'' 😆
i swear...i sooooo wanted to rip them off the moment i saw his first look in SBS.......but i guess he knows us very well.......coz before the epi was aired he said in an exclusive interview with IF that he'll be wearing tthose glasses just for 1 or two scenes......not always....thank god!!!.....
and thinking to the logical conclusion -- think of these stoooopid things during a kiphph -- they are sooooo going to break the flow!!! darn, darn, darnit! man, those stoooopid undershirt thingies of prem have got competition of most hated article of clothing prem has to wear!! arrrggg!!!
yess...i was coming to that underthingie thing.......now with these polo neck tees...i just hop he won't wear them........but if he does....don't u think we should start shouting all over the forum...so that our cries reach him just as the specs cry did....and he stops wearing them!!!

this prem? this prem is .. carved in stone. graven. like the stone statues of the old kings, with deep lines on their face of worry and strife and sorrow of having killed so many people, of having seen so many loved ones die. that's what today's prem's face reminds me of. is soooo weird how there is not a line on the surface of those cheeks. or around those eyes. but i can still see 'em - as if they are engraved on the face of prem's heer-deprived soul. he comes across like he has been burdened by the sorrow of his guilt and a lack of his heer for so long, that he has -- as the kid said -- really forgotten how to smile. things called a smile doesn't come close to his eyes -- not even when he sees those two doves outside his window...

😭i was very hurt seeing this sad prem.......the look on his face....made my heart bleed.......😭

i don't want prem to have to go through the grind of having to prove prem-heer-are-one all over again -- and that too to heer, of all the people in the world!! 😔 although...
well estee....we won't have to witness this...as it is confirmed now that heer is not marrying this guy....😃
highlight of the episode: prem removing those stoooopid glasses off his face! yes!!! those eyes... those eyelashes... all in clllllose close-up detail... 😍 no, seriously. was there any other highlight today?? 😆
agreed.....there couldn't have been any other highlight....😍😍😍
btw...do u have any idea how will prem land in india.......i mean there are lots of predictions.......wat if his daughter somehow comes to know of his whereabouts....and calls him to india...it will be very sweet naa
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Estee, heer is NOT getting married.. The creatives are fooling us by making us believe soo.. And this guy Jay just has a cameo in the serial, and Panchi also will be there.. As we read in the article, that heer is working in a marriage bureau, so she might be a friend of jay, and is the wedding planner here, and Panch will be the bride here.. Jay and Panchi both ave a special appernce in the serial...But the creatives are making it look like that heer is getting married, and i think that it will be only by the end of teh week that tr real bride will be shown..

Farah

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: estee


😕 mod-am happiness -- are you sure??

'cause that woman who was standing around did call her ''prettier than the moon, like a bride to be'', didn't she??

i mean, i get she is a wedding planner -- that brightly chattering list of what needs to be done in a wedding was sooooooo non-heer! 'specially when she reassured that lady that the jewellry is all ready.

but i got the idea that she was to be the bride.

oh, if she isn't, i'll be as glad as ... an alphonso mango that is all ready to be eated! 😆



well...Heer is still married to Prem...no?...😕

Wats the role of Panchi then if Heer is the bride?...oh well...guess we have to w&w....😆


I think from now on..we're gonna see a different Heer...like she's gona act all happy n bubbly infront of others but wen alone..she'll b Heer...kinda like GS...



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Posted: 16 years ago
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*sigh* Estee..have to admit..I am a tiny bit disappointed that you fell for the Heer marriage drama. She is the wedding planner E..it's not her wedding..this was just a trick to make us believe that Heer is getting married so we tune in to next day's epi🤔 And Heer has not given up on Prem..if you notice then Heer was holding the Karwachaut riwaz ke umm😳things..she is going to be breaking her fast and I am hoping for a Heer imagining Prem near her scene *prays* when breaking her fast.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hiya E,

Et tu, E? The one who strongly belives in prem-heer-are-one thinking that Heer is getting married to somebody else? 😆 I know this has nothing to do with prem-heer-are-one.

As khushi said, she is just the wedding planner. But only in BT land do we see the wedding planners looking and glowing like the brides. Did you catch up with the caps? Heer looks as miserable as Prem does. She's just trying too hard to conceal it.

Loved Preet and Meher convo. And Maya and Meher dosts? Missing something here. Harman staying at home without any work? Its nice to see the show getting back on track especially when the story line allows us to ask questions. I seriously want to know what happened after Prem left the station and why all of them moved to Canada?

The episode was kind of a introduction to all the characters after 6 years. Guess we will have to wait a bit to see the actual camaderie between the j-zoo family members. Loved the kids though. And you are right. Meher's daughter is a handful. 😆

G3 - I am waiting for the day she is really left all alone - even by Prem. I am waiting.

Prem - what can I say. I hate him. He was looking really delicious in that full hands, tight fitting, chest hugging black. And those eyes - aaii haii...... mar jaawaaan. My heart lost a beat when I saw him. And his strong conviction that Heer will get back to him. Cool dude!!

Heer - as everybody said it was a stupid BT stunt to show us that she is getting married. As if we believe!! Still waiting to see the little angel.

Prem doesnt want to go to India. Wonder how he will meet Heer. And then I had a thought - What if lj dies and wants Prem to immerse his ashes in India? That is a strong reason for Prem to go to India. And maybe before he dies, lj tells Prem the truth abt Veera? I dont want lj to die. But seems like a good storyline.

Anyway, gotta w&w how things move along. Loving the tls shift though. Seems like a breath of fresh air. Hope they keep the momentum going.

Take care. Have fun.
Love,
Ash
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Posted: 16 years ago
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i loved the epi especially prem

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