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Posted: 16 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: -Bee-

Yesterday's epi made me feel sick. I'm not even kidding. I love you, E, I really do!

bee! er... i'm sure there's a connection between the way you started that para and ended it. er... somewhere... 😆

honestly? i thikn the closest i've come to feeling sick ever, watching this show was the dirtchachi publicly humiliating heer, hitting her over and over in front of a passively watching audience -- some of whom were her own family! -- dragging her out in the rain, hitting her over and over some more, and then dumping her into her room like trash.

i've never admitted it before -- but that was when i felt sick. yesterday was no-where close. yesterday was tragi-comic 'cause of the sheer stooopidity of vitchface in having engineered her own little burning act. yesterday, i had my head spinning 'cause i was swinging between feeling the doom in the lj-gayatri-mom sequences (didn't you see gayatri-mom??! that was not gementor anymore -- it was a mother, even if only vitchface's mother...) and the silliness of vitchface.

and yes, that silliness was kinda pitiable 'cause she was soooo flighty .. till the very end. and in a way, i thought she sooo deserved it. not death. not that. but she deserved her little accident - she was that stooopid. till the very end.

i guess what i left the episode with was that sense of doom... a resignation that everything is going to go to hell from now on. that from it being a show where happiness hinged on prem keeping his faith in heer (which was always simple 'cause prem-heer-are-one) to one where nothing is in anyone's control anymore. it's now become sort of like an avalanche -- there's never any stopping one, didja know? i saw some while in nepal -- it was scary.

this story has sorta moved into that zone. and everything will go downhill. only question is where is it going to stop... and i think that will depend upon whether vitchface is actually dead or not.

y'know? i meant to write this up in my wtf... but felt compelled to write all this! just in response to that one statement of yours! man, i am tooo long-winded!

I also don't understand this show's fascination with people getting burnt to death. Is is to torture Prem even more, by making him remember what it was like caught in that fire, and realising that his sister went through that, before dying herself?!

i dunno -- i guess the fire thing (in this case at least) was the most inevitable attempt that vitchface could make ''to get nihaal's sympathy'' (stooopid girl!). but i had forgotten that link to prem!!! you are right -- he is going to freak out!!! man, are these creatives sadistic or what...?
But, for now, this show is dead. I don't see an eternal love story anymore. Although I AM thankful we didn't get any ig-idiot today.

i always see the love story -- maybe that's why i keep watching this show? 🤔 i dunno... i like to know why i keep watching this show.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sourpuss

In a Greek tragedy kinda way. Except written way worse. Because there was no catharsis. Okay yeah I'm not making sense. (See, I knew I shouldn't have brought in the Greek tragedy thing! )

bhav.. 😆 ... it was a good analogy. there was no catharsis, 'cause it is in the nature of hindi tv-serials that the catharsis has to be stretched out over multiple weeks! if not multiple months! 😲

in fact, that I nearly cried seeing her in Nihaal's arms, desperately trying to atone for her actions, trying to tell Nihaal that she does love him. I genuinely felt bad for Veera and Nihaal.

funny, i liked that part -- thought they did it quite well. but there was something about the sheer vitchface-style-silliness of first her conversation with gementor. and then, the way she cooked up (so to speak! 😆) her own fate in the kitchen. her whole body language, the way she was striking and killing those matches -- that was sooooo vitchface. and that's what i remember 'bout her from today...

And then the tragedy with G-mom and Lalit. That horrible irony of his daughter's happiness being infinitely ruined. It was just disgusting, all the tragedy of it.

ya, that was miserable, no? one thing these people are really good at is how to juxtapose happiness in parallel with tragedy, no? like two trains approaching each other on parallel tracks. coming from different directions. but then moving together for a while? and the actors -- dq and sd -- did those segments superbly! brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. miserable for us... but that was brilliant.
But more than anything it was the precap that got to me. I have no idea how I'm gonna be able to watch Monday's episode...
*sigh* given the episode, the precap was .. inevitable, no? i wonder ... lj, gementor, prem, heer are there -- where are the rest of the family? did no one call them?

*sigh* lots more hysterical crying to endure... *sigh!!!*

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thank you for that!!🤗
I just have to say,how STUPID and THICK does one have to be,to want to BURN themselves for their husband to......like them??!!!!!😕 Veera brought about her death herself!!🤢IDIOT.
But what i find most pathetic is that her death is going to lead to very very bad things. Ofcourse Premeer-are-one always.....but im not sure whether it applies in the physical sense too!Mentally,emotionally yes they are one....but otherwise?.....
I got scared of the precap actuallyPrem
Well Veera IS really dead. She died in Nihaal's arms. And going by the article just posted,Krystle doesnt want to be a part of the show after the leap,so there.😆
oh one last thing, I Luv u🤗🤗
Edited by huzie12 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hi,

I just don't know what to say. I am thoroughly confused not at where this story is going (it is obvious all this will lead to Prem and Heer separation) but the route it is taking to reach its destination. I thought this whole Sameer and Rajveer thing was done to show Prem doubting Heer and separating. If that was the case then what was the need for killing Veera? What purpose does it serve other than separating Prem and Heer? But then that could have been achieved with the Sameer story also, right? Then what was the need to kill Veera? You know what the most interesting thing is that two people who were the reason that Prem and Heer would split are dead - Veera and Sameer and that too in the same week!! What a strange coincidence?? So does it mean that either Gaya3 or Maya will also join these two?

Veera thing: It is really weird the way Veera's sudden turnaround happend. I have always maintained that Veera was not completely evil but plain stupid and a selfish brat. All she wanted was attention and importance. Unlike Maya who has some ulterior motive in ruining the Junejas. Veera loved her family as long as they gave her importance. But I never understood her love for Prem and Kuldi. I mean she actually went ahead and stole the evidence, which could have saved her sister's husband from a jail term, all because Maya promised her a better future. I never understood why she hated Heer was it because Prem left the house for her and became penniless in the process or that Prem valued Heer's opinion more. I never really understood as to how she could swtich back and forth about her love for her step siblings. I don't know whether I am happy or sad at Veera's sudden death because her being alive or dead meant the same thing - Prem and Heer being separated. So it doesn't make much of a difference. Though I would have loved to see Veera finally repent for everything she did. I would have loved to see her actually understand what Prem and Heer have for each other because she has finally found love herself. I would have loved to see Veera actually confessing to Gaya3. What I don't want to see is Veera coming to Nihaal like Prem did when he was dead. Oh before I forget Veera is stupid (i think that is an understatement). Seriously who believes that sympathy gets you love. But must applaud the writers and creatives for actually maintaing consistency in Veera's character. Veera has always believed that sympathy gets you love and attention. That is what she's been doing all along esp with Gaya3.
Gaya3 thing: I agree with you i have never understood her logic about thinking that hurting one child will lessen the pain of the other. But she was more Gaya3 mom yesterday than we have seen her in so many days. Why do I feel that this will be last we will see of Gaya3 mom for a loooooooong time to come? Now that her darling daughter is dead is she going to blame Heer for getting her married to Nihaal in the first place? Will she punish Lalit also for giving Nihaal a second chance? What is her attitude towards Meher going to be like? And most importantly what is she going to be making Prem do now as a punishment? You know what I feel bad about the whole Veera's death thing is that I'll never know what Gaya3's reaction would have been when she would have known that Veera actually manipulated her and Nihaal was never wrong to begin with.
Lalit thing: He's really happy that Veera and Nihaal's marriage is working. He was so confident that the decision he took of getting Veera married to Nihaal and then giving him another chance was not wrong afterall. My question is will lalit also turn against Nihaal? He shouldn't because he knew what Nihaal had planned and also he knew that Nihaal was finally going to get Veera to confess her love. Will Lalit also be punished by Gaya3 for his role in the Veera and Nihaal marriage thing? Whose side will Lalit take? Will he be a father or a father-in-law?
Prem thing: Not much today. But i liked that he went to know about Heer's friend's truth only because he didn't want any body pointing a finger at Heer including his mom. This is what I am getting very confused about Prem. What are the creatives trying to do with him? Taking him up a cliff and throw him down. I don't get it.
Nihaal thing: He really loved veera, didn't he? Her death has completely shattered him. Does it mean that now he'll take the blame for her death?
Heer thing: actually she didn't have much to do except be very happy at her brother and father in law's happiness.
WTF are they thinking thing: i really don't understand are the creatives and scriptwriters idiots or do they really think that people who watch their shows are idiots? Who came up with that Veera burning to death scenario? I think the most stupidest person on the show is Mansi. You know why because this team has not changed since Doris or Ipsita's time and even during those days it wasn't as absurd as it is now. So I guess these guys are just following Mansi's thought process which seems totally twisted. I am sure she spent all her life in some mental asylum. And as soon as she was realised she joined BT. I mean even a mad person can't come up with such absurdity. I really feel for the actors who have to go through this day in and day out. Atleast we have the choice of not watching but poor HC and AG and the rest. I feel for them.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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E, *bone-crushing hug* I wrote that when I was sort of miserable, so it may not have made any sense. Anyway, the connection is, that yesterday's epi I felt sick, but I didn't even WATCH the darned epi. I just got sick from reading the highlights. At the actual epi, and then thinking about what this death is going to mean for the rest of the people in the Juneja family. Anyway, your bt,lt just put me in a good mood. That's the connection from the beginning of the para to the end.

Btw, I know the reason I still bother reading the updates to the show. because of the fabulous actors. I'm never watching a bt show again, unless they have hc-ag as the leads. hc-ag really deserve a set of better creatives.

So, anyway, sorry for sounding so blue, I'm off to watch some SBS segments of hc-ag. That will definitely cheer me up. I think I'll start on the 'finger on your lips' one. 😆
Edited by -Bee- - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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hey estee.......
i'm at the height of my depression today......
i just couldn't stay away from answering to ur btlt...coz reading them always gave me hope....
to tell the truth.....i'm more depressed than wat i was on the 2nd october epi......coz i firmly believed that premeer are one...and even if death has come in between them....they will always remain one.....no matter wat...heer willalways live for prem and prem....he will always be there for heer.......
but wat i saw yesterday...made me sick......coz i was reminded of death by fire which i had started abhoring since last october......
secretly i always wished veera to doe due to her nature...but believe me yesterday wen nihaal was holding her...i was actually shouting out...plzzz take her to the hospital god i want her to live.......
with veera....all the truths have died...there is no hope left which can now save premeer's relarionship anymore.......
till date in midst of the shit crap(i'm sorry i'm using such a word)..i had a riny rweeny ray of hope that maybe veera would confess to gmom...who would ultimately realise her mistake and mend her ways....but no...that hope died with veera......
premeer separation is on its way estee.....no matter wat!
and to top it all....i guess we'll see them both hating each other.....
prem hating heer for her infidelity(which gmom will make him believe...he's too angry to even think rationally)........and siding with a murderer...i.e nihaal who killed his sis.....
heer hating prem for thinking that she cheated on him...and more than that for punishing her innocent brother........
thats the end......
can u plzz suggest a way to me by which i can cure my epe...cozi tried not watching the show...but somehow or the other i end up watching it!
you know wat.....people are speculating that prem might marry ash,......but i have a deeper fear than that........
i don't know why but i feel that after preet's death post leap...we might find prem marrying meher.....i know its a wierd prediction...but i'm scared....very scared now.........
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Posted: 16 years ago
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oh ephtee veera is 100% dead the actrees playing veera confirmed it!!! With her gyatri mom is dead forever so is lalu probably ... and Premeer may never be together physically now 🤢
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Posted: 16 years ago
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c3p 🤗

what do i say?

i simply hated the way they showed veera's death! All along i thought i'd celebrate if veera or maya or dj likes die..... but wat i'm feeling is sadness n repulsion. Btw the latter for destructives for cuming wid Such a kind of death for her! If nything is good or atleast turns good shuld it b finished off? G3 who was good now turned evil.... veera who turned good is killed off.... n next in line could b preet :( who was always adorable!

ohhh n veera realised her love n died...all in 15 minutes or so! y the hurry? till now they stretched the epi's suddenly speeding up the process y? 🤢

As for prem n heer..... i'm totally angry at heer for listening to IG idiot than to herself... *grrrr* n i love prem! :) but of course alot is in store!!!!!!
so w&w..... oops only one w..... coz no watching.....just waiting to know wat'd happen! :|

Edited by ...Anita... - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thanxs Estee for the Bt.,lt, this was much needed. Even i felt the same as u, with Veera's death, It felt sad to see veera die and that too when she realised her love for nihaal but that doesn mean she is a changed person. She was, one of the worst self centered person. She never considered anyone above herself, evn now she has realised the love or her obsession for nihaal only bc he avoided her. I can never forget what she did with her unborn child just to trap nihaal & heer. As she said in her last moments, that destiny did not give her a chance, So true, All her life she was causing pain to others bc of her stupid deeds so it was natural that she had to pay the highest price for her own deeds.
Now all iam worried is what this death is going to do to "premheer r one". One more hope going down the drain is G3 truth, whether she really turned negative or faking it. I so wanted her to fake it, its just to hard to see a mother like G3 truned completely negative. Regarding lj, i must say i was feeling very sad seeing his happiness and the assurances he was giving to g3. I know he will be the one, worst affected by guilt. Here i have a doubt, if they r planning to keep lj silent then what was the point in revealing Veera's truth to him. Even yesterday, apart from heer, lj knows that nihaal has nothing to do with veera's death, bc he had a convo with nihaal. r they going to show that lj will reveal the truth after premheer seperation, post leap. omg thats so stupid. I agree with u the show is heading downhill but i still feel that, if the creatives want, thy can take this track positively without premheer seperation. I just dont want to predict anything right now. just w & w.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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had written a post earlier but lost it before i could post and didn't feel like doing it all over again. i think if.com doesn't like me. i too was wondering after yesterday's epi whether vitchface was really dead, but just saw some article on the forum confirming this news. so now what? don't we already have enough misery on this show that we now have too watch even more tragic things. maybe you should start having "terrible things" along with all the other "things". veera caused enough trouble in her life and now she will cause even more in her death!
all the twists and turns this story is taking is making my head reel and giving me motion sickness! and this when i thought I had signed up to watch an eternal lovestory!
You were right about veera not liking meher long before nihal. she didn't like heer too from the time she blew the whistle on her and ratpal. her marraige to nihal came much later. her only soft moment with heer that i can recall is during her haldi when they are both thinking of prem. other than that she always behaved liked a b**** to both of them all along.
so confused about where things are heading and what they are trying to do. Waiting for your wtf.
Edited by KDHMDfan - 16 years ago

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