19 jun 09: big things, little things

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er... hmm. i dunno if i should even bother writing this bt,lt. feel like i should be doing the ... er ... wtf immediately. 😃 but hey! writing this has become a habit. and why change a habit as long as it doesn't do any harm, no? er.. don't bother answering that question, actually. i don't think i want to know... 😆

* little thing: hmmm. so when prem took off for the hotel, who else had a teeny frown on their forehead at his explanation that he was doing it only for his mom? personally, i think that ... ''possessive prem'' wouldn't mind find it out for himself either... 😊

* little thing: gementor on the phone with vitchface. y'know, when they swing the character from a mother to a gementor, it makes me feel ... seasick. seriously. how can we be shown gementor destroying the essence of one child's heart, and then showing the deepest concern for another?

* vitchface thing
: today, i guess she deserves ... things, no? 😆 'kay, i'm seriously freaked out by this sudden need of vitchface's to attract and get nihaal's love. y'mean, all this time, the only thing nihaal really had to do was give vitchface some competition??? i've heard my economists friends saying this about indian companies -- that they don't do a thing until they get competition. never figured this was also true for indian... girls? wha...???

* vitchface thing
: but one of her statements to gementor would've made me giggle if i didn't dislike the characters so much. when gementor said ''so what if you're not here, i see you all the time.'', vitchface said ''what comes from your seeing me, mom??'' 🤣 er... vitchface, i wouldn't got there, if i were you. your gementor-mom has been displaying some rather unpleasant tendencies towards her step-son recently...

*sigh* pity that vitchface was so careful in blocking out all her comments about wanting nihaal's attention to gementor. or... *thinking* .. is gementor so dense/stuck-in-her-notions about nihaal being a bad husband that she would'nt have got it anyway?

* little thing: great! so nihaal's great plan was to make vitchface jealous?? and that's what he spent soooo much time telling lj (lalit juneja) when they met after the court case hearing??

* little thing: lj's happiness that his daughter's life and happiness is now secure.

oh dear, he really looked very happy. that a decision that he had taken for his daughter's life -- without having taken permission from gayatri-mom first -- is actually working out nicely. in the immortal words of capt. han solo** ''i've got a baaad feeling about this''.

* little thing: oooh, they're playing the rajasthan music when prem is driving to the hotel. the one that played when he came to rescue heer from ratpal. they've been playing that a lot on prem thinking about heer recently, no?

* vitchface thing: i've said this before, and i'm going to say it again -- loudly, even though i may look as cold-hearted as the white witch of narnia. vitchface is the most stoooopid character ever written in any show! she is a caricature of a human-being - and is beyond the pale in stooopidity.

i know i said that the worst thing you could say about a person's intelligence was to call them an idiot. vitchface is not an idiot. she can think rationally. it's just that she has the most twisted thinking possible.

so. in vitchface's view, love comes from pity/sympathy. oooh, great. so the most loved people on this earth must be the starving beggars on the streets. after all, who wouldn't feel pity for them? and yet, no one brings the starving beggar home and love them to death after. aaaarrrrrggggghhhh!!! this character drives me up the wall!!!

and who on earth keeps kerosene at home when you have a mansion of a house? and a kitchen with a gas stove??!! who? why? which universe??? did the creatives forget that they are no longer living in that ''poor house'' (which was anyday bigger than the chawl house of prem-heer...😍 and meher 😆) aaaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!

oh, i know, i know. i get what they were trying to show: girl in the first flush of feelings of love; anxious, waiting for her -- finally though absurdly! -- beloved husband to come home; careless with what is around her. imho, it is apt that she died. she wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes in the gene pool by herself anyway. i'm glad she didn't get a chance to populate the world with more of her genes. (i told you i would be cruel in this?) she was an absurdity in this family. and other than the first days of introduction, she has always been an absurdity. yes, yes, she was a consistent absurdity -- the only good thing i can say for her.

which is why this whole ''is this love? can i feel it?'' song she sang in this episode was totally jarring. 'cause it was totally inconsistent with everything we have been told about vitchface so far! another thing that i've said before, and i'm saying again: the pacing of this story ... sucks coke from rocks! it's that bad! for a stooopid vitchface creature to fall in love -- the creatives took all of a week of episodes? after showing us a year of evil stooopid vitchface??? what is wrong with this picture?? the creatives are idiots.

* little thing: but i must admit -- the actress playing vitchface is extremely pretty. she was extremely appealing as that stooopid creature in her last moments of being tremulous and uncertain in a happy kind of way. just as appealing as the smile on nihaal's face as he looked forward to getting home to give vitchface a surprise by declaring his love .. and probably telling her his plan after.

and for a moment, i felt pity they didn't even have a chance to smile at each other in that happy sincerity before everything went to hell for them. 🤔😔

* little thing: so. did vitchface die in a fire 'cause... they figured out how to handle actors safely in a fire-sequence during the prem-death thing? seriously. what's with this team and death-by-fire?

* little thing: there were lots of things that really didn't make sense to me at all about the fire-sequence. 'especially the death. y'know? usually, the victim -- unless they get burnt fully -- has superficial burns (ie, on the surface). or if it's a closed room, they die 'cause the oxygen gives out and they asphyxiate.

in vitchface's case, since she was talking after nihaal brought her out, she didn't asphyxiate (obviously). so all she had was superficial burns. y'know? cruel as i may sound (again) i don't think people just die of such kind of burns. they may pass out, go into shock, etc. but death? not likely.

so the question i had after nihaal's rescue was... why the heck he didn't immediately call the ambulance? look, nihaal's been prem's right hand man at the hotel, right? so he's been in and out of all kinds of situations at the hotel. surely, dealing with accidents must've been one of them. and yet, all he does is cuddle his wife? *sigh* i guess what they say about being emotionally involved in a situation must be true -- you tend to not think the right way when your heart is involved?

* big thing: but i must admit, even more than the nihaal-dying-vitchface convo -- which was well-done as long as you weren't screaming ''call the ambulance, you idiot! call the ambulance'' at the screen -- what was touching in a doomed way was lj's conversation with gementor.

y'know? one of the things that has been a constant ever since this whole vitchface-in-trouble-with-nihaal thing started was the depth of lj's feelings about it. it's been a superb depiction of the trauma of an old-fashioned father with a youngest daughter. remember, this was the guy who first tried to get vitchface's marriage arranged with an old friend from canada. this was the guy who staunchly stood against ratpal coming to marry vitchface. this was the guy who slapped ratty across the face for dancing with semi-naked... er... cousins! (woot-woot-woot for that slap! forgive me suspending my gandhian principles for just a microsecond, please? [Big smile]). and of course, he was the parent in charge when nihaal stepped into marry vitchface -- and he happily conceded in spite of vitchface's discomfort with the situation!

he has been one person who has been getting tortured by gementor's claiming that he is the worst father in the world, 'cause he cares more about heer -- daughter of b.maan -- than his own child. and yet, he has been stressed about vitchface's unhappiness too. both watching a daughter cry about her painful life, and dreading the consequences of what she will have through as a divorcee.

so in the little lj-gementor segment, it was soooo painful to watch his inner joy and thrill as he talked to gementor, ''you will see, your daugther will get all the happiness from now on''. 'cause it is soooo infectious that, for once, gementor becomes gayatri-the-wife and gayatri-mom as she gets convinced by his ''talks''. i for one was touched when she said that she had ''never seen a bride's smile on vitchface's face.'' she felt totally like gayatri-mom at that one moment.

i must admit that when nihaal's call came through, i felt a chill. and a sense of impending misery. i really hadn't felt as sad at vitchface's death as i did when i watched this scene. that's when the enormity of her death struck me. that it's really going to hit -- and hit hard -- every member of this family. that, inexplicable though it always way, she is a most beloved child in this house.

and the next lj-gementor landing up at nihaal's place was just a continuation of this moment -- a father and a mother, lj all confident, gayatri-mom getting infected by his happiness. i totally loved how he kept shouting for veera, and ringing the doorbell many times (which i just hate, but totally understand). and the way she gestured at him to stop. *sigh* probably the very last that we will ever see of a normal lj and gayatri-mom for a very long time? *huge sigh*

* little thing: but watching as nihaal stood there, blind, deaf and mute, in front of lj and gayatri-mom asking questions, i wondered: if it had been me who opened the door, how would i have told the news? and thinking more, i figured: the way nihaal did. no? 🤔

* little thing: d'you know? i wonder who called and told prem about vitchface? did nihaal? did nihaal tell prem that vitchface was burnt and dead? 'cause it looked like prem knew about vitchface when he ran out of the hotel, no?

* precap thing: poor prem. man, is he going to go through a ton of guilt for having let nihaal and his sister try the one-month pre-divorce re-attempt at marriage. poor heer. she is going to defend her brother. who will be taken into police custody for this -- after all, vitchface had tried to get out of the marriage citing marital violence. poor nihaal. he has just seen his beloved wife dead. after he made her miserable by play-acting that he didn't care any more about her. what does he care about the physical blows that prem is raining on him? poor prem. who wants to wrench nihaal apart limb from limb -- even if one of those limbs is his heart, heer.

though i wonder: is vitchface actually dead?

but that, my phorum pals, is something to wtf about, no? 😆 so lemme wind this one up. and maybe i'll catch up with what this amazingly traumatic episode means for this poor ole show of mine. and write it up later. 'cause it does need some thought, no? hmmm!

highlight of the episode: hmmm. no. nothing comes to mind really, if you don't want to choose lj-gayatri-mom's happiness at the thought that vitchface will be happy forever after as a highlight? no? hmmm. thought not. *sigh* then, no highlight it is.

so once again, i thought i'd dig out some sweet stuff from the past to ... highlight-double! 🤣 and i randomly picked this one -- i swear! and see what vitchface is wearing!



seriously -- vitchface has had a lot of prem-hugs, no?? 😆

ya, this was the time that first heer proposed to prem...


and got rejected, poor heer...

but then, gayatri-mom made him do the ''right thing''! sigh, those were the days?? 😆😍

(source of caps: http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=879394&TPN=25)

w&w, people. w&w, still. 🤗 why a hug? just like that... 😆 i've got to run to fetch the first batch of mom-clones from the airport. yes, it's that time again. the annual meeting of the mom-gang. look forward to seeing me on the phorum even less than usual... *sigh*

**: capt. han solo -- dashing caption of the fastest space-ship, the millenium falcon, in starwars 4,5,6.
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Soaps1 thumbnail
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Posted: 16 years ago
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the show just makes e fee sick now ... too much of evil winning and good suffering for longest periods of time
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estee, all i wud say is that, I simply HATE it.....I SIMPLY HATE IT when they kill the negative characters rather than turning them into positive....*sigh*.....since my plea will fall into deaf ears, so it's better to keep my mouth shut, no? *deep deep deep sigh*.....
thanks for the post dear....your posts are always interesting *hugs*......
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wow..esteee amazing BT and LT.word by word written and expressed was exactly in my mind yesterday.>i mean is vitchface really dead??? don't think sooo...I still have doubt...But then i don't know with these stupid creatives who are giving us episode by episode the worst horrid things.I dread that more worst things is going to come from next weekend.
Yesterday, was the most stupidest episode, highly illogical.Any way, why i am finding logic in BT and Mansi's world.They can only think of crap.Nothing else.I am totally lost now.
You are right, The creatives are Idiots.
Still your bt and lt makes me smile .so a 🤗.
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And if veera didn't die does that mean its part of another evil plan to trap nehal and heer? ... that means heer would be out of juneja house ... and evil would rejoice for full 5 years? How sick would that be
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soaps1

the show just makes e fee sick now ... too much of evil winning and good suffering for longest periods of time



hmm.. actually, it hasn't been so bad, no? i mean, i agree with you that the bad guys have been plotting and plotting for the longest time now. but y'know? whether they are winning is not so clear, no? i mean, gementor+vitchface+shrimp-maya have been really slogging at getting prem to push heer out.

but really, other than heer getting her brains twisted, scrambled and fried, the prem-heer-are-one still goes strong. all thanks to our lovey-dovey-husbandy prem? no? 😃 so ya, good is... suffering. but are the bad guys winning?? me? i'm not so sure...


Originally posted by: Soaps1

And if veera didn't die does that mean its part of another evil plan to trap nehal and heer? ... that means heer would be out of juneja house ... and evil would rejoice for full 5 years? How sick would that be



no, no! this plan of vitchface's was totally impromptu. i seriously don't think that the situation was such that vitchface is dead. i can't believe it. i seriously think that nihaal was freaked out, and didn't really check? i dunno, of course.

i can imagine that if she is not dead, then gementor-in-kali-maa mode (which is what i think she will have gone into immediately, targetting everything maan!) could definitely set up a plan to get nihaal and heer ... and technically meher as well! to pay for having burnt her precious vitchface. and if vitchface goes into a coma or something, that could go on for a while. but i don't think that it was devised as a plan.

and if heer leaves jzoo, then i suspect meher and preet would leave as well. and my bet is that prem would leave too. but then, i dunno...

i need to wtf on this badly.. and sitting in a little internet cafe keeping a ear out for flight arrivals is not helping. 😆 so look out for a post tomorrow or s'thing?

see ya, soaps. smile. have phun -- remember prem-heer-are-one. always will be. even if prem is a little ... distraught just now? 🤗 let's w&w...

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Originally posted by: Rehana86

estee, all i wud say is that, I simply HATE it.....I SIMPLY HATE IT when they kill the negative characters rather than turning them into positive....*sigh*.....since my plea will fall into deaf ears, so it's better to keep my mouth shut, no? *deep deep deep sigh*.....
thanks for the post dear....your posts are always interesting *hugs*......



hey, rehana!! i thought you were on holiday in bangladesh! how's aapka desh treating you? is it fun?? is it mango season there? did you eat a lot of 'em??? 😃

i am not sure that vitchface is dead, no? and i'm not sure that she would've ever become a real positive character -- even if she did fall in love with nihaal. s'how, the anti-meher vitchface attitude was there waaaaay before her marriage to nihaal. and i thought that the anti-heer attitude was something that came up after the nihaal marriage thing.

i dunno... but ya, if she had fallen in love with the maan brother and been kept busy in that life, it would've been nicer than her having to die. and hopefully, she would not have been whining to gementor. and gementor would've turned back into gayatri-mom if vitchface had been happy! which would've meant life at jzoo would have come back to having a real mother in it again.

that was the real cost of this vitchface death, imho. that we didn't get a chance to getting gayatri-mom back. and prem-heer having peace and quiet for once... sad, no? 🤔
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Originally posted by: Intellienough

i mean is vitchface really dead??? don't think sooo...I still have doubt...But then i don't know with these stupid creatives who are giving us episode by episode the worst horrid things.I dread that more worst things is going to come from next weekend.

i know! i can't believe that -- if they used medical logic -- vitchface can be so ... easily dead! (i still think they need a blackhole to achieve that -- nothing less will work! 😆) but i'm afraid that i kinda agree with you on the latter part -- i do think that this ... event will give gementor the ammunition she needs to do the most horrible things the coming weeks... and pity of it is that lj will have lost the spirit to fight. 'cause he will blame himself for the hope of getting happiness for his daughter -- and losing everything.

i seriously wonder if lj will have a heart-attack and die, or he turns into a vegetable this time...

Yesterday, was the most stupidest episode, highly illogical.Nothing else.I am totally lost now. You are right, The creatives are Idiots.

oh, no! no, no, no! yesterday was not the most idiotic owpisode! that had to be the one with the heer-ig-idiot getting to ''samir-in-leather''s room and his discovering them there!!! omg. that was a stooopid owpisode! that one takes the prize for idiocy ... at least in the recent past.
Still your bt and lt makes me smile .so a 🤗.

heh. thank you. i like those.... giving and taking. so here... 🤗

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Yesterday's epi made me feel sick. I'm not even kidding. I love you, E, I really do!
From here on, I can see things getting worst. Prem is still to find out about the long list of Heer's lies... and I don't think he's capable of rational thought anymore. His baby sister is dead. Btw, I hate that the creatives made her die by getting burnt! I also don't understand this show's fascination with people getting burnt to death. Is is to torture Prem even more, by making him remember what it was like caught in that fire, and realising that his sister went through that, before dying herself?! What is WITH these creatives.
But, for now, this show is dead. I don't see an eternal love story anymore. Although I AM thankful we didn't get any ig-idiot today.
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Honestly, E, last night's episode was tragic. In a Greek tragedy kinda way. Except written way worse. Because there was no catharsis. Okay yeah I'm not making sense. (See, I knew I shouldn't have brought in the Greek tragedy thing! )
Anyway, I didn't really notice that Veera's emotional progression and the realisation of her emotions were rushed. Heh. But I did think that the actress portrayed it beautifully. So beautifully, in fact, that I nearly cried seeing her in Nihaal's arms, desperately trying to atone for her actions, trying to tell Nihaal that she does love him. I genuinely felt bad for Veera and Nihaal.
And then the tragedy with G-mom and Lalit. That horrible irony of his daughter's happiness being infinitely ruined. It was just disgusting, all the tragedy of it.
But more than anything it was the precap that got to me. I have no idea how I'm gonna be able to watch Monday's episode...
Waiting for your wtf!
Love,
Bhav (:

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