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Posted: 16 years ago
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i cant see prem being negative or hc being gaurav .that make me feel 🤢😡.the theme is about preemer lovestory ,so i want PREEM HEER BEING TOGHTER at any cost & being passinate & romantic always ,so my request to creatives that stick to the main theme plzzzzzzzzzzzz..i know this is fiction ,but kuch natural to ho na chahiye .afterall real lovestory or fiction lovestory me itna negativity nehi hota hai.try to understand .otherwise trp will go dowwwwwwwwwn. just like that👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Intellienough

you know what Misty i really feet very bad that KDMHMD after prem's come back is going no where.Though the episodes seems to be ok but that FEELING of prem and heer is missing.Its now so many days or you can say months that we hardly felt that passion and sensitivity that was with prem and heer .The article is very well written.I think we should send this to creatives and request them to take a copy of the same .Paste it infront of their desk, office , everywhere and request them to read every day atleast 10 times so that it should go inside their head.
WE LOVED THIS SHOW SO MUCH with our HEART AND SOUL .Ekta and BT should be proud of.How mant shows today get so much of appreciation and true love.
Creatives we want this show to go on with Concept of True love , Eternal love and PREM-HEER are one.
PLEASE STOP SHOWING US THIS HUMSAKAL TRACK as soon as possible.IF you cannot then please end this show.

I really feel guilty of being part of bringing HC back on demand.We never expected that after his come back we will be torturedt so much.
It would have been positive if he did not come back on our demand.Atleast this show till now would have been off air.HC would have got better serials or show to work on.I feel sorry for AG and SR.They are misused by BT and creatives.

We will then request other production houses to cast both HC and AG together in some other no nonsense show.They are very popular jodis and definetely they will be welcomed by other production houses like anything.

CREATIVES DOESNOT DESERVE THESE GOOD PEOPLE.


I am really feeling bad.I wish Vikas is back.He has handled this character of Prem and heer so well.When i watch the old episodes they are outstanding piece of work.All scenes beautifully worked.direction, editing everything was just perfect.I love watching old episodes.They have become integral part of our live.

Its not about wanting Vikas Back Re. Its about wanting the soul of the show back. They are getting there, but they are still afraid to cash on the prem - heer part. They are unclear on their thinking and wondering what masala, they will churn. They think that by showing prem and heer together, they have no masala to give out but they fail to understand that marriage means responsibility and commitment and is a whole dofferent ball game together.
I would have loved to see Prem & Heer working togther and Prem and Heer taking each step together, solving and facing each difficulty that comes their way, together. But they will never show this, because I dont think, they want to try and I fail to see why.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: harshitifonder

i cant see prem being negative or hc being gaurav .that make me feel 🤢😡.the theme is about preemer lovestory ,so i want PREEM HEER BEING TOGHTER at any cost & being passinate & romantic always ,so my request to creatives that stick to the main theme plzzzzzzzzzzzz..i know this is fiction ,but kuch natural to ho na chahiye .afterall real lovestory or fiction lovestory me itna negativity nehi hota hai.try to understand .otherwise trp will go dowwwwwwwwwn. just like that👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼.

Well, I think all the actors including HC are doing a brilliant job and I have to compliment them for that. I can understand your fears, After showing us an avtar of Premwhich is positive, they are trying to force something down our throats, which is an avtar which is a grey shade/negative. They are trying to make us believe that this is indeed a humshakal, after showing us all the plausible things and reasons that this humshakal is indeed prem. They think they will show us and we will accept it!
It doesnt work any more like that! or does it?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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i know hc is brilliant in any role.but point is can u see DON'S don (srk) with simran in DDLJ.i know i cant see this the same way i cant see gaurav with heer in kis desh i want hc playing prem's character with heer in kis desh.i dont want gaurav anywhere near heer.coz he will heart prem's heer.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: harshitifonder

i know hc is brilliant in any role.but point is can u see DON'S don (srk) with simran in DDLJ.i know i cant see this the same way i cant see gaurav with heer in kis desh i want hc playing prem's character with heer in kis desh.i dont want gaurav anywhere near heer.coz he will heart prem's heer.

true as the thing is that one cant be showing a hum shakal track... its so passe...
Edited by mistyeyed_25 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hey Misty, I completely agree with you. Just my two cents:
This is definitely not my first time that I've watched a BT serial, but this is the first one that had me obsessed to this point. I mean, in other shows, (even though I hated it), I could see that a couple had to separate. But, honestly I had high hopes for this one, because it was about the ETERNAL love story of Prem-Heer. I honestly hadn't seen a story like this, where they had a couple who were destined to be together. It used to be a beautiful story between two amazing individuals. For the first time, I found both a hero and a heroine worthy of my respect. In other shows, I've had to make excuses for the (idiotic) mistakes that the lead hero or heroine make. Here, Prem-Heer wouldn't even give me the change to do that.
Coming to The Prem. I started watching this show ONLY for him. I'd seen some episodes of this show before, but I had completely sworn off Balaji soaps after I'd seen too many ruined. Even here, I was sure that the lead hero and heroine would go through the whole misunderstanding tracks. But, then I saw "kyunki main tumse pyar karta hoon". After that, my exams started, so I felt guilty wasting my time watching the whole show, but I STILL downloaded all the Prem scenes (when he was after Heer) since that day onwards. By the end of May, I was hooked. Prem was a character that I had never seen before. I was bored of all the arrogant guys who fall in love with the simple lead heroine (and then also turn into wimps, in the name of love). I was bored of all the love-hate relationships, full of doubt and misunderstandings. Here, I was getting this passionate pair who were made-for-each-other.
So, it HURTS when the character of Prem is being destroyed. I realised it's ok if other lead heroes doubted their wives or had shades of grey, because they were always shown as flawed human beings to start with. Here, it hurts more because this is The perfect Prem we're talking about. We need the essence of his character to be retained, because his character (along with Heer's) is what Kis Desh is all about.
I agree that BT is one production house that ALWAYS plays with the emotions of it's viewers. I'm sorry, but I don't think I've seen any other production house do it to such an extent. Nowadays, simple shows are much more popular because they don't take their viewers for a ride, and they don't give them months of mental torture for a few seconds of happiness in the show. So, please, respect your viewers, and you will regain your former glory. Play with our emotions, and you will fall even lower...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: iqbalrox14

Hey Misty, I completely agree with you. Just my two cents:

This is definitely not my first time that I've watched a BT serial, but this is the first one that had me obsessed to this point. I mean, in other shows, (even though I hated it), I could see that a couple had to separate. But, honestly I had high hopes for this one, because it was about the ETERNAL love story of Prem-Heer. I honestly hadn't seen a story like this, where they had a couple who were destined to be together. It used to be a beautiful story between two amazing individuals. For the first time, I found both a hero and a heroine worthy of my respect. In other shows, I've had to make excuses for the (idiotic) mistakes that the lead hero or heroine make. Here, Prem-Heer wouldn't even give me the change to do that.
Coming to The Prem. I started watching this show ONLY for him. I'd seen some episodes of this show before, but I had completely sworn off Balaji soaps after I'd seen too many ruined. Even here, I was sure that the lead hero and heroine would go through the whole misunderstanding tracks. But, then I saw "kyunki main tumse pyar karta hoon". After that, my exams started, so I felt guilty wasting my time watching the whole show, but I STILL downloaded all the Prem scenes (when he was after Heer) since that day onwards. By the end of May, I was hooked. Prem was a character that I had never seen before. I was bored of all the arrogant guys who fall in love with the simple lead heroine (and then also turn into wimps, in the name of love). I was bored of all the love-hate relationships, full of doubt and misunderstandings. Here, I was getting this passionate pair who were made-for-each-other.
So, it HURTS when the character of Prem is being destroyed. I realised it's ok if other lead heroes doubted their wives or had shades of grey, because they were always shown as flawed human beings to start with. Here, it hurts more because this is The perfect Prem we're talking about. We need the essence of his character to be retained, because his character (along with Heer's) is what Kis Desh is all about.
I agree that BT is one production house that ALWAYS plays with the emotions of it's viewers. I'm sorry, but I don't think I've seen any other production house do it to such an extent. Nowadays, simple shows are much more popular because they don't take their viewers for a ride, and they don't give them months of mental torture for a few seconds of happiness in the show. So, please, respect your viewers, and you will regain your former glory. Play with our emotions, and you will fall even lower...

I totally agree, I have never been so obsessed about any serial ever. I am even obssessed about greys anatomy, like I was about this serial. I cant take the ill treatment of characters that they are doing right now and I hate it when it came across that they are jusr riding on our emotions. I mean what was Friday's episode all about. Heer was never so naive and so stupid, the way they were portraying her to be. The only saving grace for BT on fridays episode had been seeing preets relationship and equation with his mom. Had they not shown that, BT would have seen more of my wrath.
I dont know what wrong with BT. I seriously didnt expect them to handle a show like this and I dont know why they keep faltering. Meaningful entertainment, it seems is something unheard of, it seems. Its sad, its unfortunate. Other Production Houses and producers are more in sync with what they want, they are more in tune with the viewers. BT it seems, hasnt done their homework at all. They really need to research, what they are doing right and what they are doing wrong. What others are doing right and what others are doing wrong.
I dont even believe that I have written all this. If I as a viewers can think in these lines for BT, I dont see the reason why, they themselves cant.
Edited by mistyeyed_25 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: khushix

Thank you Misty... that was beautifully written...exactly how i feel..how everyone feel...i just wish the creatives see this...they have too...this isnt the same old kis Desh anymore...and i dont think it will ever be the same...everything is gone...its all lost...they better fix this show by bringing THE Prem back or just end it!... coz i dont even know wat this show is all about now...dont even know why im watchin??...for wat?..🥱🥱

Thanks Khushi... I dont know if the creatives will see this and if it will make any difference to them. It seems as if they dont care. I know, they should just end this serial on a good note rather than getting a notice from star to end the show or recieve a warning.
None of what, they are showing makes sense. It would have been so much better had they not killed off prem. It would have been ace on their part.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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👏👏👏

That was excellent, literally spoke im sure not only mine but many of us heres mind.
Honestly though, I began watching this show because it was different, unique, pure, and full of things to learn and feel. The show that was about traditions, family and love, turned into revenge, money, and unfaithfulness. Something we've already experienced watching in many other balaji production shows. I don't see any reason to continue watching this show, because it only lets you down as it goes.
Was it just to much to ask for? To want to see the Prem and Heer love story not end, if their love was destined? To ask for Heer's love and faith to not be broken and to bring her Prem back? For miracles to happen, and to portray the power of love and faith? For us to believe that Prem had come back, after all Heer's longing and to swipe away all her pain?
Ever since the day we got to see Prem after the Rajasthan setting, the show has been going completely downhill. How can Prem aurf Gaurav change so much from the moment in rajasthan to when they came back. Those were completely two different people. We had hope for Prem's existence when we saw him in rajasthan, but after that I don't know it just completely stunned me to see the character change from someone who could feel someone elses pain in their tears to someone who wakes on the call of money (greed) looming around his head.
I'm really disappointed in the creatives, they've taken this show for granted as well as our hopes. Yes we wanted Prem back, but if this is what they had in mind, then it really wasn't necessary, the show could have been put to an end when we would still have only those very precious thoughts and memories of the show that existed before Oct 8th.
I still continue to watch the episodes before Oct 8th, and will continues to do so, they remind me of what the show really was about, and not the current nonsense we get to watch.
If this really is Gaurav and not our Prem, then he should just stay away from Heer. Becuase Heer only deserves Prem, kyunki Prem mein sabse zada Heer basi hai. ❤️
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Posted: 16 years ago
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er... since this is a post with notes to the creators of this show, i thought i'd just post my views on what i like/do not like 'bout it.

i guess every show's a story. every story has a beginning and an end. in hindi-tv land, there are stories too. but not like in books. these are stories that are like chapters in the life of characters. the chapters are situations and events that happen. and through these chapters we find out about who these characters are. what they are made of. and as we see more and more of their life, we understand more fully who they are. by the time we are 200 odd chapters down, we think we pretty much understand the characters.

in this show, i've had a ball understanding the characters. well, the main ones. i don't quite get the point of new characters who come on, appear important (like vishaka and the muckmeet-prashant-family) and then vanish like a small, blackhole on earth have found 'em. (btw, would it be possible for you to create such a blackhole for veera/vitchface? she's terribly boring. you can create a new character for nihaal - i don't mind.)

but your main characters? they are very interesting people. prem, heer, lj (lalit juneja) gayatri-mom, preet, meher, nihaal, harman, kuldi, her husband, ash, dirtchachi, her husband (he was interesting -- where is he?), jugni, the moon, the doves. 😆 ratpal, satya(pal), kodiyon(pal, aka sumer singh) -- they are interesting people. the rest are trite. as creators of characters, i'm sure you understand that it's really terrible to have totally boring (ie uni-dimensional) characters on the show, no? why not just get rid of the rest?

your main characters are lovely. they make for interesting character-dynamics. which are best when the outcomes are ... unexpected. unforseen. and the best of the lot are prem-heer. why? 'cause i think that in a jaded world of love, love-again, love-yet-again, marriage, divorce, death, mariage-again, love-again, sleazy-affair - their togetherness has got a totally unexpected flavour. what was amazing is that you managed to make me believe in what's an old-fashioned love story. i've seen lots of (real) broken relationships, (real) broken people -- and yet, i believe in prem-heer-are-one. not just 'cause of prem. but 'cause of heer too. they're truly equal mains. 'cause when prem was ''temporarily removed'' from the show - i honestly believed that these characters retained their old character. and gained in several dimensions. perhaps, they would have become interesting even with prem around. but who the characters are today -- is amazing. i really do love them all.

but, i must admit: i've always had a problem with the pace of your story. two things seem weird to me (across other shows as well).
1. how come you show the bad guys as more smart, more capable of achieving things, as having control of the situation for longer? is that how it is in your world? 'cause even when the good guys win in this show, the happy times last for a pretty short period of time. is it just easier to write bad guy dialogues and stuff? i'm seriously curious. 'cause the pacing makes me irritated. and resorting to flashbacks as part of telling the story is a terrible way of pacing a linear story line! am i supposed to remember what i saw two weeks ago today, when there will be a flashback that will explain it today?? i can understand needing to remember the essence of things -- but details?

but though the pacing makes you feel sea-sick in your living room, one of the things that i love in this show is t - no matter how brilliantly the bad guys try to control things, the prem-heer-are-one concept wins out. that rocks. 'cause it certainly hasn't in your older shows. kudos to you for this.

2. given such internally dramatic characters -- i mean, sometimes i hear the dialogues that prem/heer/lj/gayatri-mom spout and wonder -- man! who ever speaks like this?? given such dramatic characters, why does the script have to have some rather unnatural dramatic situations? why did it take for gayatri-mom to disappear from the house for her to see ''the guy'' (the chap with prem's face who you call gaurav sharma, i believe. 😆)? what purpose did it serve for ''the guy'' to pick up his keys from the monitor room when heer was crying there? nothing was served except for .. yeah, making me feel seasick. there is a difference between hysteria and drama. and sometimes, it feels like the story is not able to distinguish between the two. it'd be nice if you did.

3. no matter how beautifully hc-as-prem and ag-as-heer have delivered on prem-heer in the past, i don't think they can do such an exceptional job without good direction, and a good script. i saw some old episodes of the first two weeks of april 2008 and that was a good story! there was drama. there was continuity. there was pacing.

btw, one place that i think the show has done major improvements compared to back then is that your camera-work has become better -- no more of those zoom-in-zoom-out face-slapping camera tricks! but those overhead shots? then and now -- they are brilliant! the more recent floor shots? not that great... seriously. more seasickness... the background sound can still be improved. those hysterical cymbals and tatada-tatada-tatada-doom! sounds are ... ya, more seasickeness causing.

but i guess the biggest question is your story. i watch the show and i think that you are in a bad spot just now, 'cause we the audience have no clue - and i mean this most sincerely - what the story is. as story tellers, this should be your worst nightmare. i happen to believe that a confused audience cannot be your aim. so then, i'd figure that you have two parts of the story and a hole in the middle. and you're struggling to patch up the hole?

if it helps, i offer the things that i think have made this show rock so far:

1. prem-heer-are-one. this has always remained. despite all kinds of standard hindi-serial situations that disrupt relationships, this has always remained. i think prem-heer-are-one is what keeps us here. 'cause the story hasn't broken that yet. and i'm hoping it never will.

2. the consistency of your characters are the second. by the time we were in the middle of the show, i think i could figure what the main characters could be trusted to do each time. really. i was surprised when? um... prem listened to gayatri-mom and had to struggle so much to tell heer 'bout sanjana. when prem slapped heer. i'd never have figured him to have done both those things. but other than these? no major surprises. i love these characters. i love how they've grown. i love how they react true to themselves to all kinds of situations. i love everything they have done so far.

so one of the things that is sooooo going bad for your show just now is that you've chosen to take the face of prem -- one of the most beloved character in this show -- and try to put it on a new character (or not, 'cause i'm seriously confused what you're trying for with him!)!! and then, the worst sin: you don't get as much time to develop the character so we understand who he is. of course, that maybe a deliberate ploy on your part -- to kinda squeeze the drama of the moment. but i must warn you -- of course, your audience is gonna freak out!

c'mon! this is prem. we know prem. okay, okay! we adore prem. (the 'we' is figurative. 'cause i hate prem. 😆) having this new character have prem's face looks (just now) like a baaaad mistake. no matter what other stories trying similar things have done, they've not done true love the way prem-heer-are-one is true love. this is new, people. treasure it. you're gonna have to come up with a reaaaaally cool story to weave anyone other than prem into prem-heer-are-one's story! or have it be prem. or have a really unhappy, mistrustful audience from now on.

well, good luck. it's past 2:30am here. and i'm rapidly getting incoherent. but i lookforward to enjoying the show again. 'cause i admit: haven't really enjoyed it since gaurav ''hip-hop bunny-with-fleas'' sharma came into the show. just been watching it - 'cause of my faith in prem-heer-are-one. and the characters being true to who they've been so far. 😊 good luck with keeping the faith.

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