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Posted: 17 years ago
Btw do you remember Milind in a dark brown shirt anytime and resting on his easy chair? Sometimes there is a sense of familiarity...sometimes it looks fresh😕
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Ryka



How did you forget baba & Ayesha? Now Milind is cornered from all sides and in all relationships I think Ayesha would have a better chance about gaurding the truth if she tells Prachi that she knows the truth That Baba has done himself some good by staying away from my sight.... when he created such a fuss about Milind asking for a divorce...he took Prachi's word when she said she is ok with the divorce😡 So it wasnt about Michi... as much as it was about Prachi...and to him Milind isnt Prachi's husband but merely a gaurdian of the Shah's😡

I am so mad at Prachi and Suk currently 😡😡that I forgot about Ayesha and baba,sorry dear.True,this guy is cornered from all sides.Everyone is taking undue advantage of him.😡😡This baba is a big namuna,instead of looking at Prachi as his daughter-in-law he looks at her as Inder's daughter whom he brought up.Now what about Mills mishraji?Don't you have any relationship with him?😡

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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: optimist

Alaap can turn into a brand new leaf for all I care. But I cannot cheer him ticking off Prachi. It is like the pot calling the kettle black.

Prachi may have been foolish in her deeds. She deserves to be told firmly what she did has not really benefitted anyone, including herself. But Alaap right now is not the character to do that, considering he is still a lecherous creep, going by his behaviour with Suki. And moreover this guy had enough and more clues to unearth the truth by now and he did'nt. Instead this dumb ass put us through so much torture along with the rest of the dumb creatures of SM. For his dumbness and his creepiness he does not deserve the right to suddenly ask questions.



Opti, Ticking off Prachi is totally different from questioning her.... esp because he has been held responsible... he IS responsible for all this... which is why he needs an answer if he decides questions. He will have to take responsibility for the Ritwik's existence(and I dont mean he should be given Ritwik's custody by that) and before that he will ask why wasnt I told before... and it is a valid question. He has a right to an answer because he is paying for the mistakes he has done(i am not sympathetic towards him because of that) So if he questions Prachi within the realms of his right to an answer... you need to give it to him... because he is taking the responsibility also. Just because he is the bad guy...doesnt rob him the right of a trail because this is the 1st time that he will be facing this truth...unlike Sukruti who has had her chances for more than a year with the truth. So i personally will wait to see his reactions before i take a call on wether he has a right or not to a question he wants an answer for. And if I say I want Alaap to question... i mean those questions answer to which he is entitled to. Even law doesnt rob a guilty person his right to a fair trail...and same goes with Alaap too... because this is a new set of charges against him which comes to his knowledge just now....and his natural reactions will come out in the form of questions and fair enough... irrespective of the stand that he takes... he might chose to defend himself or admit... his stand will become a point of contention and not his right to a trail or question. I hope i managed to get to the point i am trying to make😕.

and as far as unveiling the truth goes... I am ok because even though he hasnt figured it out(like many others)... he hasnt given up even after so many failed attempts(like others)😆. Anyway the deadline is set... 2 days it is... the truth will come out cause Divorce isnt going through... lets see who solves the riddle(?)😆
Edited by Ryka - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: blind horizon

I agree Ryka Bharat is capable of doing a lot more I just hope he's shown on a more positive note now. 😊 Sujal not finiding Kashish arey yaar jeeta kaisey woh phir. 😆 😆 since he claims her to be his life.



Arre Wo Kashish se milta nahi tho there wont have been a chance to claim her to be her life na😕 No use talking about Sujal... if he makes a stand... then he is going to stand by it forever😕 The only reason to bear with kashish is Sujal...because if you love him, there is no other choice😕 Agar Kiddo ultimately haar mansakta hai for his Big B's sake...tho I guess we dont have a choice😕😆

I hope they cash in on Bharath's talent... and dont ignore him like Jay😕 Infact they could have cashed in on Jay & Bharath in Shabbo's absence... instead they drag this Raaz because of Shabbo's schedule. I dont know when they knew Shabbo's commitment to MI long before... why didnt they time it well😕...but to their credit i must say they did a commendable job banking Shabbo's scenes for a month before... and now loosk like they are set for atleast 3 weeks without Shabbo😕
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Posted: 17 years ago
ryka thanks for the update.
the creatives r indeed lack brain in their head instead they have some mud in their heads.
whole nation or whole world is celebrating new years eve and these duffers celebrated aprils fools day by ayeesha so called dream of michi hug to fool the viewers.

no hope with these creatives that they will end the baby raaz so soon.

ok i will settledown with michi dream hug as anew yr gift to us...
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Posted: 17 years ago
Finally after a gap of almost 3 weeks I watched today's eppy.And that too I watched the MICHI hug almost 10 times. 😳 The hug wasn't as good as the C-night one but something is better than nothing,beggars can't be choosers na.Now I wonder who got hold of the letter. 😕
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Ryka

Ya Anju, I liked Ayesha today😊 Good that atleast one of the characters made a slight change from their stand in life at this point. I wish someday the good in her does come out and conquer her evil & saddist mind.

And coming our Bacha.. he is one gone case only.. I was thinking about the same thing... he is worried about his things and food. Prachi cllaed out for Ramu Kaka standing outside the room and Hero came out... bahana chahiye bath karne keliye and show how much he is hurt😆 I am glad he is that cranky... makes him adorable😛 Btw where is Ritwik, missing that baby... teh last time he was seen was when he came back after being kidnapped.😕

Ya,No body asked him to come out ..He could have easily avoided her but NO. He has to registers her presence and face atleast once and excuses are food,shelter and clothing🤣.About Kaif Shabbo Uncle seems to have gone for the shoot,right?No one around to handle the baby(me assuming)..

If this is how they treat eachother when the truth comes out,then Ill bang matkis on their head .Knowing their ways there is going to be no communication and expalantion and they will decide to make babies . Milli Mishra better demand explanations from his wife after that Milli can cry,beg ,say sorry,stand on his head etc. 2 mos and still running torture ..I refuse to take the same patterns of torture and behaviour and bad judgements anymore(Its MICHI so I will be lineant though😆).

Until Alaap does something about the baby drama ,I am not rooting for the dude.He let me down last time.I dont want Neev to get the letter.too.Is there anyone left?😕I dont really know who should really get the letter and tell the truth to Milli😕.

.'The only reason to bear with kashish is Sujal...because if you love him, there is no other choice'

Hihihihi..Ayyo its true..Sometimes I used to think what is sooooooooooo special in this Kashish that Sujal couldnt survive without her.But even after saying that I should say they are one other jodi other than MICHI that I adore.Fab chemistry😳 and Im still an RA shipper.That ship aint reaching anywhere though😕.Rajeev Khandelwal , Sujal-Kashish are topics barred to talk at my home😆😆 and nowaadys im not supposed to talk about MICHI too .Along with Kashish I have neglected the brat Kiddo behaviour just for the BigB's sake when that boy used to get on my nerves with his bigda shaitaan behaviour.But Kashish Sinha's so called kashish(it means attraction,right?) still remains a mystery..

@Opti Saket do respect Prachi and Milli.In front of the temple when they had eloped he was the one who really told Milli that they didnt get married and that M was accusing Prachi regarding a marriage that hadnt taken place..I was happy that he spoke up to Milli even when M was fuming. .Dont know if he knows about Suki though.If yes,I hope he steps up.

Edited by lvsgm - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: Ryka


Opti, Ticking off Prachi is totally different from questioning her.... esp because he has been held responsible... he IS responsible for all this... which is why he needs an answer if he decides questions. He will have to take responsibility for the Ritwik's existence(and I dont mean he should be given Ritwik's custody by that) and before that he will ask why wasnt I told before... and it is a valid question. He has a right to an answer because he is paying for the mistakes he has done(i am not sympathetic towards him because of that) So if he questions Prachi within the realms of his right to an answer... you need to give it to him... because he is taking the responsibility also. Just because he is the bad guy...doesnt rob him the right of a trail because this is the 1st time that he will be facing this truth...unlike Sukruti who has had her chances for more than a year with the truth. So i personally will wait to see his reactions before i take a call on wether he has a right or not to a question he wants an answer for. And if I say I want Alaap to question... i mean those questions answer to which he is entitled to. Even law doesnt rob a guilty person his right to a fair trail...and same goes with Alaap too... because this is a new set of charges against him which comes to his knowledge just now....and his natural reactions will come out in the form of questions and fair enough... irrespective of the stand that he takes... he might chose to defend himself or admit... his stand will become a point of contention and not his right to a trail or question. I hope i managed to get to the point i am trying to make😕.

and as far as unveiling the truth goes... I am ok because even though he hasnt figured it out(like many others)... he hasnt given up even after so many failed attempts(like others)😆. Anyway the deadline is set... 2 days it is... the truth will come out cause Divorce isnt going through... lets see who solves the riddle(?)😆

I dont understand what you mean by questioning Prachi and what is this thing about charges against him. Who has levelled any charges against him? It is Neev who is bearing the brunt of Prachi-Suki secrecy. Where is Alaap in the matter? And how has he paid for his mistakes? In fact he has still not paid for his mistakes. So do you mean that he should ask Prachi why he was not made to pay for his mistake?

When the truth comes out, Alaap will know what he has done and yes, he has to take a call as to howm he deals with it. But why should he demand that he be told of the child? This guy did not think twice about spoiling Suki's reputation by getting his friend to replace him in Suki's bed. Imagine the girl's humiliation when the entire Shah and Shergill witnessed the fiasco at the hotel. Now he wants to stake a claim to the baby which was a product of his relationship with Suki? Which girl would want to tell a guy that he fathered a child when he had ruined her reputation in the eyes of the world, caused her father to shun her and pushed her into hiding? Do you frankly think that if she had told him that she was pregnant that he would have married her or something? I dont know how they intend to shape Alaap's character in future but at the point of Suki's pregnancy and even much after that (I still feel even now) he did not appear as the guy who will accept the responsibility and do the right thing. And it is still not clear what would be the right thing. Marrying a girl you despise because she is the mother of your child?

My grievance with Prachi is that she hid the truth from Milsi and Saket and not that she hid it from Alaap. Alaap's intentions have not been honourable so far. So how he would have used the truth is anybody's guess. Why would Prachi take such a big risk of ruining Suki's life for good? On the other hand given what Milsi has done for Suki, he has every right to know. He has not only been her brother but also a mother to her. Saket is Suki's husband. He has gone against his family (atleast initially) to wed her. He has the right to know. Even she had first adviced Suki on those lines. But her advice later to keep it a secret is absolutely foolish and wrong.

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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: optimist

I dont understand what you mean by questioning Prachi and what is this thing about charges against him. Who has levelled any charges against him? It is Neev who is bearing the brunt of Prachi-Suki secrecy. Where is Alaap in the matter? And how has he paid for his mistakes? In fact he has still not paid for his mistakes. So do you mean that he should ask Prachi why he was not made to pay for his mistake?

When the truth comes out, Alaap will know what he has done and yes, he has to take a call as to howm he deals with it. But why should he demand that he be told of the child? This guy did not think twice about spoiling Suki's reputation by getting his friend to replace him in Suki's bed. Imagine the girl's humiliation when the entire Shah and Shergill witnessed the fiasco at the hotel. Now he wants to stake a claim to the baby which was a product of his relationship with Suki? Which girl would want to tell a guy that he fathered a child when he had ruined her reputation in the eyes of the world, caused her father to shun her and pushed her into hiding? Do you frankly think that if she had told him that she was pregnant that he would have married her or something? I dont know how they intend to shape Alaap's character in future but at the point of Suki's pregnancy and even much after that (I still feel even now) he did not appear as the guy who will accept the responsibility and do the right thing. And it is still not clear what would be the right thing. Marrying a girl you despise because she is the mother of your child?

My grievance with Prachi is that she hid the truth from Milsi and Saket and not that she hid it from Alaap. Alaap's intentions have not been honourable so far. So how he would have used the truth is anybody's guess. Why would Prachi take such a big risk of ruining Suki's life for good? On the other hand given what Milsi has done for Suki, he has every right to know. He has not only been her brother but also a mother to her. Saket is Suki's husband. He has gone against his family (atleast initially) to wed her. He has the right to know. Even she had first adviced Suki on those lines. But her advice later to keep it a secret is absolutely foolish and wrong.



When i said responsibilty, I said it isnt about Ritwik's custody or claim to Ritwik. No! COming to questioning Prachi, he needs an answer as to why the truth has been hidden from him. As far the blame goes... when the truth is going to come out... he is going to be the one who will be blamed for it, no one else. So his reaction will be come out in the form of questions. If one wont blame him... he has no right to question aswell... but it will all bottle down to that. And I do feel one of Prachi's reasons to bear this nonsense is also because Alaap is her brother... because she had promised herself that she will set right what Alaap had spoiled for the Mishras... so if she is taking Alaap's mistakes on herself on her own will, then Alaap will have his share of questions.

Coming to Alaap paying for his mistakes... are we forgetting he has been married to Suyesha for close to 2 years(if BT calendars are anything to go by) and being married to Suyesha and bear her tantrums day in day out account for his punishment. Milind has reduced him to a mere employee in his business for over a year now and he seem to go about that job aswell....and there cant be any better punishment to Alaap otherthan robbing him of his riches and the glory that goes with being a Shah. So yes, atleast according to me he is paying for his mistakes.

No one said Alaap deeds have been honourable... but yes the changes in him with regard to his family is noticeable(it is a diff question that the creatives havent elaborated on that after showing hints on his return from turkey) At the end of the day it is a matter of choice... and if I want a change in Alaap... it is more in a creative interest... his change will have a lot more possibilities to explore in case of the next calamity striking the family... him being negative will stagnate the show and take it back to a point it all began. Redefining Alaap's track convincingly would be a challenge for the creatives, directors and bharath himself... and with Anil & Bharath... there are very good chances they can pull it off and if they intend to show some hope in Alaap's character... they have to do it with this track because there isnt going to be another chance the creatives wil get. I dont know about the others... but it would surely go towards helping me retain my interest in the show.

I guess i have said enough with regard to this...if I say more i will be repeating myself... So I rest my case😊.
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Posted: 17 years ago
a raaz never remains a raaz, it will one day will surface then what will prachi gain from all this? i dont understand her mother didnt explain to her that husband and wife relationships is based on trust, pl spoke with prachi on her wedding day saying to forget her past with neeve... the mother quite foolish...not to mention trust, understanding one aonther and my fav;love.. 😃 😉 😭

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