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Posted: 17 years ago
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i can only say that....
prachi...milind...ayesha all are confused souls....

the only sane one is neev at least he knows what he wants he made his heart clear that he loves prachi but he can never get her again and just be happy in her happiness although he feels the pain....
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Posted: 17 years ago
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^ disagree

Most of them are sure of what they want:

Prachi: She wants Milind..period

Ayesha: She too wants Milind.....or must I say, she wants PRachi to remain unhappy forever, and hence is obsessed with snatching anything and anyone close or getting close to her

Milind: PErhaps the most confused man, although it's apparent he has fallen for Prachi...still, some of his actions are a tad confusing
Edited by krangara - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mages

i can only say that....
prachi...milind...ayesha all are confused souls....

the only sane one is neev at least he knows what he wants he made his heart clear that he loves prachi but he can never get her again and just be happy in her happiness although he feels the pain....



Agree with the bit abt Neev... Sane fella and I still stand by the fact I find Ayesha sensible too! They know what they want, and what lies ahead... if they jus let go of the memories of the past... they would be a rocking pair... unlike Michi, who are jus rawking with their sad puppy eyed looks at eachother! Pricks , I know.. but well thatz why Michi are a rage arent they ? Khaamosh aankhen... and silent looks! Ufff!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: pippa

Wow! Ryka, that was some justification for Milind...but for someone like Milind whose instincts and understanding of people and the way of the world have made him the successful person he is today should be able to see things in perspective. Of course, y'll say these are emotions he's dealing with...those related to the heart. But ultimately, doesn't everything boil down to emotions, whether at business or at home?

Neev said he was in love with Prachi, not Prachi. So, when Prachi told Milind that she didn't return those feelings anymore, he should have believed her. His instincts should have kicked in...as it did time and again when he told her earlier, 'tujh mein kuch baat hai.'

The irony here is this: Prachi didn't believe a word of what Ayesha said after the fake ONS and she'd put up a spirited fight for 'mera pati.' But, from the moment he declared he wanted a divorce and she heard him telling Ayesha, of all people, that he and Prachi have no relationship and is tagging along for the father's sake, her spirit failed her and she gave in.
Where, earlier, she had the courage and reason to put Ayesha in her place , she felt she no longer could.

You are right that things go on behind his back...but is he so blind to Ayesha's innocence? He ought to figure out Ayesha's intentions by now..that woman cares nothing for decency as she has proved time and again.
So, he should have guessed that Ayesha's just as capable of going for Prachi verbally just as she is of trying to brainwash him and convince the whole world about her feelings for Milind.



Pippa… U are right abt everything boiling down to emotions and instincts. What are instincts? They are flashes of the subconscious mind abt what is right. But how many of us can interpret it or make that our decision? What makes someone stand by their instincts is supreme self confidence and self belief and the courage to stand by it… because mostly instincts don't provide u with reasons and logic and most often than not, they defy it. Instincts fail miserable when insecurity or sense of doubt seeps in. And Milind has been a very instinctive guy from the beginning…because he has been confident and courageous. He should be able to apply his instincts and sort out this mess. But it is not every time people go by their instincts… do they? Esp when their instincts have failed them time and again (it might not have in Milind's case… but the evident results and Milind's interpretation of them say it is a failure) Before we get started with Milind blowing his fuse over Neev's confession and making his own assumptions later on… we should realise that this wasn't a stray incident. Milind had reasons to believe that there is something drastic going on between Neev-Prachi. He had the hotel scam where he believed Prachi in partnership with Neev is out to tarnish his reputation and hard work. He had the money issue where he believes that Prachi is stealing from him to give it to Neev. In both the occasions having promised dire consequences Milind let it go without any further action. He never had reasons to let it go… nor did he give reasons for his silence. So in that case it is a comfortable assumption that Milind's instinctive trust over Prachi won…. Because even after those two occasions it his trust in Prachi remained. The 3rd time when it happened, he couldn't overlook because it was staring at his face. Yet, he did try to put it behind him… He went to the garden and he had the whole introspection 'Aur kitna dhoka kahega, Milind?' I don't know what answer he got…but he headed back to his room only to confront another confession from Neev abt his undying love for Prachi in HIS room. That really did it for him… his confidence in his instincts were ruined, his self defense mechanism took over immediately to prevent his complete breakdown and the end of his purpose of life… thus came 'Main Prachi se pyar vyar nahi karta.' And No one made a mistake of buying that statement… It was evident he was lying else he wont have been so shattered. Ayesha knew it too…

Yes, Prachi said she doesn't reciprocate Neev's feelings & their marriage means everything to her… But she didn't say she loved Milind… which was the most important thing at that point. Because Milind was letting her go for the sake of Love… when she said she said her marriage is the most important thing to her, she could have might as well told him she loves him… wasn't that what she was waiting to tell him the prev night? Then why didn't she?

Prachi put up a spirited fight for HER husband because she knew she was the Woman in his life and had a right over him. She let the right go when he announced the Divorce and she said explicitly stated she loses her right as his wife from that moment on… It was that moment that broke her and not the conversation she heard on her return… That is what I feel atleast. Didn't Ayesha confess to Prachi that Milind was shattered after Neev's confession? Didn't she say 'Milind tujhse dil laga bheta tha na?' And hear Milind's words when he spoke abt Ayesha… he spoke abt her in the Past tense. He said 'Phele ek ladki mujhe doka deke CHALI GAYI.' & 'Phele apna pyar dard deke CHALA GAYA' Then from where did Prachi begin to feel that Milind is still in love with Ayesha? If he was in love with her… would he have reacted the way he did to Ayesha in the I Day's party? I feel Prachi is more to blame Ayesha for the 'False Hopes'… She time and again reiterates that Milind is available for Ayesha. Be it giving the Matki's Shagun or leaving her seat by Milind or ending the eye locking competition in that fashion. I wont blame Prachi alone… I am angry with both Milind & Prachi for not understanding eachother… both are on the same plane… no one is better or worse. Which is what I think was the basic point of contention of this post

On his conversation with Ayesha on the day of his Bday abt Prachi returning to the house not his life… he had a point… he was quoting Prachi here. When Prachi left she very categorically stated 'Main Ja rahi hoon… Es Ghar se…Apki Zindagi se' Now there were two different aspects… leaving the house and leaving him. Prachi leaving him was what crushed him…his reactions spoke volumes for that. He would have stopped her if she was leaving the house, because he believed she had a right over the house more than him… like the way he said when she came back, he never wanted her to leave the house. The reason he out stretched his hands to stop her and instead stopped himself was because she was walking out of his life, which he assumes is best for her. He didn't go out in search of Prachi after that because it wasn't abt stepping out of his house but out of his life… he was setting her free. So when she came back, she came back into the house…and irrespective of what Milind had to say, Prachi had decided she was coming in to the house for the sake of Milind's dad, right? So that really didn't make any difference to her, except that it hurt her and naturally so… but it didn't get any hopes crashing down. So it is important for both of them to ack that they are back into eachother's life or rather they were never separated from the world they built together and were, are and ever shall be a part of eachother's lives as their soul.

Coming to Milind guessing Ayesha is capable of harassing Prachi… I am sure he does, but then given his beliefs he can also assume that Prachi brushes off Ayesha saying she isnt here for Milind but for his dad and she has walked out of his life for good. And more over that is what he makes out from his conversations with Ayesha…Ayesha said Prachi wants to be with the family on the picnic… so he assumed (Like always) that Prachi said so. Sounds illogical right? That is precisely what I am getting at… If he needs to take on Ayesha on harassing Prachi then he needs to know what has actually happened… because he cant go around fighting without knowing the magnitude….if it is all about guessing it is possible he assumes it is fairly harmless situation where Prachi can take care by herself(else she would have told him) or he can assume the worst life threatening situation…. Which such a vast scope for him to guess… what will be or should be his degree of reaction based on assumptions?

I am super mad at Milind… because only he can put an end to our Misery and most importantly Prachi & his own. But I also know for him to set everything right, he needs some vital expressive information…. He is Human after all and I will go light on my expectations from him because he is going through an emotional crisis…he has too much on his head… An ill father, a broken heart & marriage and to top it is his business which needs him to work even on a holiday. And I don't blame him for being involved in his own life… esp because he gets too worked abt things… He has a right to put his own life ahead of anyone else's, doesnt he?
Edited by Ryka - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: sareeta

Ryka, I have to agree with Pippa Ji, that, that was some defense in favor of Milind, but that aint surprising now is it?! 😊 With due respect, your stand point is something I have enjoyed reading, but not necessarily something I have completely agreed to…!

Well, I do see your stand but then with due respect, I disgree...

At the risk of being misunderstood and misinterpreted, I go on here to put forth my opinion and stand point...

My apologies to anyone who directly or indirectly feels offended... none is intended however...

I believe that with the viewers connecting to the characters at a level, beyond the fact that they are jus characters, we tend to bias our viewpoints, which are but natural and in no way can be held against one...

But yet, I beg to differ and see it different…

Ayesha, a pivotal character in the story, has been shown as an ex-love who feels jilted in love, which jus only leads the viewers to treat her as a negative character, and not choose to look beyond than what we are expected to see…

Sad, that we chose to be lead by the creative team to believe that to feel jilted and sad , on losing something is to be negative , and not attempt to look beyond and deeper into the character…

Please bear in mind, this is not a rampant Ayesha's defense post, but rather as I perceive it , a objective view of what is transpiring now, considering Ayesha's integral role in the sequence of events….

Ayesha and Milind have grown up together, seen each other through the thick and thin, and one can safely say, they are predictable enough for each other, to react and respond to each other's reactions…

A deeper connection, a step beyond their close friendship might have only been natural… but if one were to look at Ayesha… and her support system; Milind has been an integral part, even if one may argue, that he wasn't the only one…

Milind has been always aware of Ayesha's rationale behind her actions, her anger, and her bitterness…which was only evident during the episode of him snatching the shah house from her back, to give it to his darling wife…

The man did play on her weakness to suit to his advantage… and someone who has had a undeniable knowledge of how she would react and her rationale for her actions, could have done what he did…

The very reason, Milind married, was coz he was playing on Ayesha's jealousy… and to vent his own anger at what had been done unto him by her, and to get back to her, by hurting her where it pricked the most … his importance in her life…

The man has been aware of how Ayesha felt towards him, reacted to him, and more so, saw in him… and the importance of him in her life… and that cannot be denied…no matter what…

The supposed ONS, that transpired, only made Milind cringe in guilt for the fact that he had not given the support to Ayesha, that she was looking for, instead, took advantage of her presence …

The aftermath of the birthday party, saw Milind rushing to Ayesha, with concern about her behavior…the very gesture of rushing to her, could not make it any clearer than it has , that Milind stands by her today too as a good buddy… as someone who has seen her , through her tuff times, shared his own pain, and her pain …

It was certainly a very empathic moment between the two when Ayesha poured out her heart to Him, momentarily forgetting her vengeance and angst at his marriage to Prachi, but for the simple fact that she was losing out on his support on her life… The only constant thing in her life, until… things took a turn on a different tangent…

No denying that, Ayesha is responsible for the mess that she is in, but when it comes to her relation with Milind, there is no denying that he is the support factor for her, in her life…

With an ailing, demented, jilted in love woman for a Mum, who she had to mother, when she needed that support herself and to grow far beyond her age, losing out on childhood innocence, Ayesha has walked a tuff path. She wasn't even blessed with a family as was Milind… who eventually, she regarded as family… her complete support system…

And Milind was aware of this more than anything else, about his importance in her life… and that's undeniable…

One would only expect Milind to stand by her as a friend and let her know that all is over between them, and that he would stand by her as a friend… coz he does know Ayesha is still holding on to the past …

But much to add to turmoil to Ayesha's troubled psyche at the moment, he choses to keep quiet and only utter that he dosent have anything to do with Prachi… which only adds fuel to assumptions of Ayesha, that she is still important in his life, coz he didnt deny her presence..!

I see that Milind treats Ayesha as a frined, and pours out his heart to her… even his denials to her, but the same way he should even let it out the he dosent see Ayesha as a life companion anymore…. Knowing she is building her hopes… by the minute, what with her screaming her lungs out screaming he is hers all the time, in his face….

One may argue that Milind is lost in his own god forsaken sad saga of love, to give Ayesha any importance, but the man, will find only himself to blame … at a later point when things out of hand…

Not accepting a relation is way different from denying it on the face, which always gives a tone of finality…

Silence may be golden, but misinterpreted the most!

Ayesha will be justified if at a later point she turns to Milind " Tune kabhi inkaar bhi nahin kiya ki tu mujhse pyaar karta hai" because Milind has only done that… Kept mum… for his own pathetic sake…

Ayesha has been given every reason by Milind to be believe that what she was thinking was right… even when he said.." Maine tujhse pyaar kiya hai .." Mere aur prachi ke beech mein kuch nahin hai.." …

The man had umpteen chances after the so called ONS to clear his stand and apologize to her but didn't, instead he sulked given his sad assumptions abt his saga of love…and chose to ignore the ONS faade and not clear the stand that Ayesha was wrong in her thinking…

Milind may not be leading her on deliberately, but the fact of the matter is … "HE IS "… Period… Keeping mum and ignoring things don't solve matters…it jus worsens them…

If Milind indeed treats Ayesha as a friend and intends to be one to her, he certainly isn't behaving as one… certainly not… well actually , as a selfish friend to vent his own god damn denials abt his love to her…

If there is anyone who can bring Ayesha out of her turmoil, it would be Milind, by letting her know , she has not lost his support, but only that he has a life with prachi too... and he has accepted too...

Ayesha's actions have always been revolved or based on Milind's actions.. or words and he has been the only one person, she has paid heed to ... and he being aware can only respect that and stand by her... instead of staying mum...

If anyone can make Ayesha realize... it will have to be Milind, coz Ayesha would only be willing to listen to the one person she considers family... the one support in her life,... she has held on to ... in her life...for her own dear life... for her own troubled...sake..!

Neev spoke to Prachi, knowing she was the quieter kinds, who possibly might not have voiced out her thoughts in front of MIlind and cleared her stand, but was only surprised to know she had ... and then chose not to interfere...

Well surprising Milind didnt even come close to being as good as a friend as what Neev is to Prachi!

Milind stands guilty as charged in my eyes!

Thanks Pippa for putting up this post!

I rest my case …



Milind, mujhe ek din marvake rahega… Ok. here is the Devil's Advocate…. I guess there are no surprises on that front😕. Yes, I am biased and will stand by Milind come what may, but that doesn't necessarily mean I say he is right all the time. I don't need reasons to stand by him, but I surely need reasons to defend him. Don't worry, Milind gets the hammering from me the 1st and that too live😡. I am not justifying him…because there probably cant be a right and wrong out here… I am just putting his side of the story.

Sareeta, that was a wonderful post, very well written…I appreciate the fact that it is very balanced👏😃 (because that is something I guess I can never manage😆)

Coming to Ayesha I do see her as a pivotal character with various shades. I will not write her off as a negative character in the entire story… but she surely is a negative character with respect to Michi's Love Story. I am ready to understand the trauma Ayesha is going through and sympathise with it….but I am not ready to set it right at the cost of someone else's happiness….Which is what is happening at the moment.

There is no denying that Milind WAS the support system in Ayesha's life. But she chose to give that up for something else that was more important to her. Milind was the support system because she was a part of his life and a Very Important part. She gave up on Milind and she cant come and seek the same support…. Because Milind has moved on from where SHE had left him. Why should we expect Milind to be at her disposal whenever she wants him to be by her side? I ask if Milind hadn't come into the picture at all… hadn't married Prachi to give Ayesha a taste of her own medicine… do u think Ayesha will still be doing the same? Def No. It is because Milind's entered her so called fight and became her enemy's armour… she put down her weapon…. Because she realizes she cant fight him… so she wants him back into her life. It doesn't work that way not with Milind atleast.

Milind knew Ayesha very well… hence he set up his game and played his game right and won. But he didn't do without a giving her a fair warning… He told Ayesha to watch out for him and expect the unexpected… he would do anything to defeat her. And when he had victory… he came up and accepted his game plan. So whenever he is fought to win he has made sure he has declared war and it came with a warning that he will do anything that it takes to claim his victory. Well, defeating Ayesha was the purpose of his life… till he fell in love with Prachi… and everything else was immaterial…from then on it has been Prachi, Prachi, Prachi and Prachi and will always remain. From that time, he has changed, his priorities in life have changed, a lot of values have assumed a different meaning. He isnt the same guy anymore… that would explain his lack of understanding towards Ayesha. He admitted he feels sorry for Ayesha but doesn't feel her pain and accepted that it could be the end of his association with Ayesha. His concern was surely there when Ayesha was hurt in the fire or when she was on a rampage when Prachi returned. But that was about it…it was concern, not understanding and surely not support! He seemed clueless about what had caused Ayesha's out burst. Now how difficult was it to understand that it was because of Prachi's return? But the fact is that Milind didn't understand… now how can we hold him responsible for not being able to connect to Ayesha or understand her anymore? He isnt the same guy who loved Ayesha, And Ayesha is no longer the girl he loved… both of them have changed. Both are having a problem relating to eachother's identity… forget Milind finding the rationale behind Ayesha's actions now. Ayesha broke his sense of commitment towards her the day she married Neev… and one cant hold Milind answerable to atleast a part of that commitment.

Milind has always been the very quiet kinds… I might be wrong with this fact, but from what I know Milind-Ayesha were never 'officially' a couple were they? It was assumed that they are a couple… but did they ever confess and commit to eachother in express terms? As far as I think, they haven't. Correct me if I am wrong. So why is Milind's silence such a huge problem now esp when Ayesha knows how much the guy loves Prachi?

Milind thinking is very traditional. He needs absolute relationships in his life… he isnt going to be a second priority in anyone's life nor will anyone have a second priority in terms of a particular relationship in his life. Which is why he couldnt take Neev's clear presence in Prachi's life and nor will Ayesha be a replacement to Prachi in his life. His definition of relationships is very definite & absolute. Which is why he never offered friendship to Prachi… She would be his wife or she would not. There is no scope of having anything in between like a platonic relationship… he is too traditional for something like that. When he stepped ahead to give his marriage a chance… he began as a husband and not as a friend. He can never be merely a friend to the woman he loves/loved. You are right when u say Milind isnt even a friend to Ayesha…because he is not and don't expect him to be… He will care for Ayesha on complete human grounds, nothing else. Ayesha wont be on his mind if she isnt doing something idiotic in front of him...and even then, there are times he is too lost to figure out Ayesha. Milind is always a loner in life, he doesn't need many relationship nor does he believe in expanding his relationship circle. This is one man who will place his family above everything and everybody. For him His dad, wife and Sister matter the world… he is slowly warming upto the Shahs and accepting them as family and Ayesha doesn't feature in it. His friendships though genuine have been very socially rather than emotional. He will share his happiness with his friends but never his heartbreaks. That is Milind Mishra for you.

Coming to a different point, he doesn't stake Ayesha around to pour his heart out and find solace for his broken heart or to hear his denials. He always chooses to be alone and Ayesha shows up and begins to talk something he doesn't want to listen to. His interactions with her are frustrated because he doesn't want to have the conversation with her… he is plain irritated and more tuned towards ending the conversation and walking away more agitated…in that case no one can accuse him for doing so for finding comfort or solace. The tone is always 'For heaven sake Leave me alone, Ayesha'

Do u really think Ayesha is building hopes? I don't think so… and this entire thing abt Milind leading Ayesha doesnt make sense to me atleast. What is he leading her towards? Towards believing that he loves Prachi to death…. that he can put anything, anyone, everything & everyone at stake for Prachi's happiness? More jealousy? because Milind gives Prachi the love and respect of being the only woman in his life? Gives her more reasons to stoop down from dignity to stop every step that Michi take towards eachother? Every action of Milind has gone on to prove he loves Prachi… in that case how is he giving her hopes? When Ayesha has been vocal abt him being hers… she has got a definite answer…be it in his words or actions. You think he is leading her on when he throws hate bombs at her, scowls, snarls and snaps at her at every chance he gets?He doesn't even acknowledge her at times not because he is avoiding her, because he is simply unaware abt her. And Ayesha knows him well enough to read his silence… which is why she cries at the end of the day, doesn't she? If Milind is making a progress towards leading Ayesha on to believe he will be hers at the end of the day, u will have Ayesha more confident… and what do u see in Ayesha? She stooping down to a new low every single day to separate Michi!

I agree Milind is one of the ppl who can help Ayesha out of this Misery, the other one being Neev. But Milind's life doesn't revolve around Ayesha that he puts everything at hold and get to deal with Ayesha. He has his own set of problems to take care of it… and has priorities in life… and u cant blame him for Ayesha featuring somewhere at the end of the list. Let him get through setting right his priorities in life… he will help Ayesha out as well for what will be the last and the final time. But Ayesha doesn't seem to let him set his life in order, does she?

I am ok with Ayesha if she tells me she is out to break Michi's marriage… because she cant see Prachi happy. She better not give me a reason like she loves Milind. Because what she does in the name of Love… is surely not right in my eyes. Being an opportunist and deliberately playing around with the life of two people who genuinely cared for her 2nd time round doesn't warrant any sympathy from me alteast. She wants me to believe she loves Milind when she is fine to see him pine and shatter at the very thought of Prachi being away from him… esp when she hold the key to his happiness… with one confession that she staged the entire misunderstanding between him and Prachi will restore him with happiness and life. She wouldn't do that for her own selfish reasons… she decides to be an opportunist… instead of understanding his pain (because she claims to love him…) she increases his pain by lying abt Prachi and circumstances…This is surely not called love in my dictionary and surely not honourable to me. Just because she has doesnt know the meaning of love because she has never experienced it, I cant adjust my definition of Love to suit hers

Milind has nothing to be guilty about or blame himself for… because Ayesha isnt misinterpreting his emotions… she knows it too well and is using it for her own self at the cost of Michi's happiness. Obsession cant be justified in any given circumstances… which is why it is called Obsession. And Ayesha is obsessed with Milind.

As an audience I surely have the advantage of knowing what Ayesha is upto… and how she is playing around with Michi. She is betraying Milind's trust by fabricating something as heinous as an ONS. I am glad that Milind hasn't offered anything more than a sorry for that… the guy doesn't even have to feel sorry abt anything. Why should I expect him to be compassionate & guilty abt something when I clearly know he is the victim. The day Milind gets to know this side of Ayesha he is blissfully unaware of or has under estimated, that would be the end! He probably let her off the 1st time around, because her betrayal came as a blessing in disguise… the 2nd time he is going to make her pay… and make her pay hard. I will wait for the day Ayesha is brought to justice… and Milind will be the one delivering it because he is the Victim of her vicious mind. The only redemption possible for Ayesha is reuniting two souls pinning for eachother and be fair to Neev(Divorce him or give him the love she snatched away from him) If she doesn't… the fate she will meet with is going to be fatal and the saddest thing will be that no one is going to sympathize with her. She might have suffered a lot all her life, but that doesn't give her the right to snatch away the happiness of others.

Milind might not be doing the right thing, but he surely isnt wrong. There is a lot of misunderstandings that have taken place and he has played a part, just a part… they are many to blame along with him and knowing that for a fact… I wont let him face the blame all by himself…. I have a reputation to save, u see😆. Bad humour😡, I know. And I am against or for the fictional characters and nothing beyond that. As of now.. I will rest my case, because after all that writing finally my hands are hurting and I am sure urs would be hurt reading it and more over I think we have conveyed our points across...lets wait for the story to unfold.
Edited by Ryka - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Thanks Ryka for writing in! Have to admit , I was looking forward, ki is baar aapka standpoint kaunsa hoga! Nice to read...

But I guess... we have to agree to disagree on this aspect of Milind and Ayesha... and wait for the story to unfold, coz like all other characters Ayesha will be made a total black character and nothing close to gray and then well... its the expected ...! 😊

Thank you for understanding my stand point! 😊
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Posted: 17 years ago
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@Sareeta - Sareeta darling wonderful post dear😃...and do agree with some of the points you have made ...but disagree with some too..😆

@Ryka - Darling....lovely defense of Milli dalring as always dear...and do agree with some of your points too..

But looks like we all seem to see or view the characters and their action and emotions differently....thats because we all are human being you have different views and opinions about things...and all off us preceive or see things from a different prospective...no two people will ever see something from the same prospective or view a human being and his action in the same light....

Thus we all have different propectives on Milland, Prachi , Ayesha and Neev......and their actions and doings...

Some feel sorry for Neev and blame Prachi for his miseries...but I souly blame Neev for his miseries...as he is stuck in the past and not trying to move on with his life and loves blaming others for his state instead of him self.....the converstaion he had with Milland complaining about his life....

As for Milland ......being Ayesha's support...not too sure dear....hes more of a commodity...personal property ...that she beleives that belongs to her only...

How could someone who fell in love with her ....ever fall for someone else....thus the fake ONS...creating misunderstandings...and if she really thought highly of him...etc she would never have gotten married to Neev ...but would have taken Millis help...in getting even with the Shah family...

Here I feel no sympathy with Ayesha at all dear.....as she knows shes wrong...but chooses to ignore it ...shes so consumed with her hatered...that she does not see ...that she is on a path to self destruction...destroying everything and everyone thats in her path...along with herself.

If Milland is supposed to know her so well as a friend...doesn't she know...that Milland is not in love with her anymore...her dialogues do indicate ...that she does know...but wants him for herself ...and her enemy...Prachi...can't have him.....no matter what.

Its more about getting even with Prachi...or hurting her then.....about Milland...its like the the dog in the manger...my bone...if I can't have it ...no one can...thats Milland the bone.....

The fake ONS was to make Milliand feel guilty...make him feel sorry for her...she knows him so well...that she knows how to wind him up...and she soing a good job of it too.....

Milland has told her when he wanted to divorce Prachi that he's not doing it so they will become one...but because he wants Neev and Prachi to be happy...

Ayesha ....chose to ignore it...and ...thus....to even get him senseless...she had to tell him...Neev and Prachi were togehter.....

Thus Ayesha knows in her heart that Milland is not hers anymore ...but likes Prachi..and she can't see that happening...him becoming...or falling for Prachi...her enemy.

And Milland is some what ...not completley to blame ....the thing that he is doing worng......is he ...keeps ignoring her acts...like the speech on his birthday...knowing that Ayesha lied to him about Prachi...going to the picnic with her family...and not scolding her......or reprimiding her...and again..for beleiving her the second time around....

And his blurting his out loud that Prachi is no more a part of his life always to Ayesha...only after...he's instigated or aggitated by Ayesha...

For all this and more...that his silence is doing I blame Milland completely

Its just my point of view...no intention of hurting anyone at all...😃

Love

Krishna

Edited by kubare - 17 years ago
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Fully agree with you Krishna. Ayesha does not know the meaning of love. Granted she had a miserable childhood, her mother did not get her husband and she did not get a father. So her twisted logic says that Prachi (who had the good fortune of having both her parents and who was indirectly the reason why her father could not be with her mother) should not get the person she loves. Initially that was Neev. So broke that relationship and married him. Now she has realised that Prachi loves Milind. So she has to break this relationship too.

She may be fooling herself and us that she is doing this because she loves Milind. No she does not. She is far from that. She knows Milind is hurting because of her actions. Does she care? Oh no. Maybe she even wants him to feel miserable for marrying Prachi to hurt her. Who knows what that twisted mind of hers is capable of?

And why does she need a friend? She threw away the only person who loved her. Now why does she want him back. Milind can never be her friend. She is too obsessive to want a platonic relationship with him now. Is he leading her on? No. His actions speaks louder than words. He is indifferent to her. That can really hurt. If someone hates you, there is still some hope that you can convert that hate into love someday. But this guy now is plain indifferent to her. Now how do you handle that?

Granted that Millu is only digging his own grave with his failure to disclose his love to Prachi and his vociferous denial of it in front of Ayesha. But this is only hurting MICHI not Ayesha. His telling Ayesha his real feelings would not make any difference to his relationship (or the lack of it) with Ayesha. One may ask then why can he not just ignore her taunts instead of denying his love for CHI. Here even I am confused. I personally feel he does not have to justify himself and what he feels to anybody. If he is too bashful to declare his love to CHI (for fear of getting rejected), so be it. But he need not talk about it to anybody either.least of all to Ayesha. Not because he should not lead Ayesha but because she is not worth a discussion about his personal life. The silent treatment would be the best way to put her off.
Edited by optimist - 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ryka



I wont deny that Milind behaves like the biggest idiot to have ever walked the earth... But he isnt making these decisions and actions based on the Truth... If he knows the truth, he can set matters straight in a matter of a day... we saw how effectively and sensitively he put the Rape Episode behind both of them having known the truth. His hearfelt repentence & defeat was what helped Prachi put that trauma behind her and smile again. That is what Milind Mishra is capable of... He needs to know the real picture... and this wont happen util Prachi speaks the truth... the Entire Truth. Will Prachi, Sukruti and Ayesha stop making a fool out of him?



I have to say, Ryka, that one line, disappointed me , immensely , coming from you,... I have always appreciated your stand on things and the way your defend your stance, Never expected you to defend that act of his asking for forgiveness for an act that is perceived unpardonable...or may be I am reading different...

So any man, who attempts a near rape on his wife , and comes and says "Laanat hai mujhpe.." the next day or jus goes running and finds her a saree of her choice in rains...or shed a tear should be forgiven and allowed to get away ??

At that rate , half the rapists and men with near close intentions will jus be roaming scott free in this world and we will have no one else to blame but our own mahaaan dils which forgave those despicable intentions...

Milind's intention to scare his wife in that manner was despicable , whether or not the act was carried out in actual...Soch hi gandi thi, harkat tho door ki baat hai!

If Prachi forgave him and thought it was a heartfelt repentance... it was because she is a damn fictional character, but to believe that that was a awesome gesture and his repentance was a glorious act... am sorry, I find it indigestible... much worse... unpardonable......

The woman, who feared the sound of a footstep after the act, and the day after... jus chose to ignore... and look all puppy eyed.. when he called her his wife...

The fact that a rape scene is being given such a romantic feel to it... in these soaps by the creatives is disgusting and much worse.... mocking the trauma of the woman face such situations in real....

Aapki har argument , is valid in its own way, except this one , which I as a woman find hard to accept.. Am sorry.

I dont intend to question you or anyone in particular, but just that why is it that being woman we chose to ignore such a glaringly despicable act ...

The act of rape is a far cry , jus the intention to even attempt it , to scare or otherwise is as unpardonable as the act itself !

Milind can never be forgiven for the act, coz his sister was never forced , but gave in willingly to Alaap, whereas Prachi was literally threatened and manhandled... against her will... and physically abused... which stands no comparision, to the act of willingly going all the way with a man, one believes loves her only to be jilted later...
Edited by sareeta - 17 years ago
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@ Optimist - Agree dear.....😃

@Sareet - True...its dispicable that the creatives try to show rape or near rape as romantic.....it never is...be a woman raped by the hubby she loves...or by her BF...or by an unknown person....rape or near rape leaves a woman scared for life....

As for Prachi forgiving him his act.....what can one say...except that the story achracter needed to do it ...to make the stroy move forward...

But that action of Milladn was way out of line ....as you so well said...Sukriti..gave her self to Alaap out of love....their was no force in it...deception...but no force....

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