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Posted: 5 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: BombayGirl10

Suta,


First post as in on MF i usually comment here and there or in AT but this is my first every individual post 😊

That’s very nice

Please do keep posting now ..

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: BombayGirl10


Oppo,

Its fine if you don't find that similarity. Agree that they came from the different zone but if i am not wrong than along with an obsession for anu komo also wanted to take revenge from pre in the first track atleast that is what i concluded. Bajaj's past was not completely disclosed so i don't know if he was right or justified for hating basu's. He was not in love in start but over a period of time he was and later he did became obsessive in that to get pre and remove anu completely.As i said their approach to things were different but not intent. Let's agree to disagree that redemption was very thanda and writers very conveniently showed him mahan by letting pre go. I don't see any bravery in his actions because it was just his karma bitting him back but that's my opinion you are allowed to think otherwise.

Though my intent of using anu here in the post is just an example and its not for comparing him with bajaj. I am comparing bajaj with komo. Anu turned obsessive agreed but he was not a murder like komo and as DG very well explained in her comment that anu's love was not one-sided obsession like komo's was/is. Anu shared a relationship with pre and had his own reasons to believe that pre was lying to him about this marriage and he understood her facade over time and was trying to get her out of this marriage just like he did during NB track though pre was ziddi both the times. Their equation changed from friendship to partners/lovers in tracks.

I did my analysis of these two characters from the overall story perspective and tracks and made small examples of anupre based on that and not just based on one track.

Thanks for your viewpoint oppo.🤗


BG yes i dont find any kind of similarities . cos actually they had not . Bajaj had purpose and back story , yes makers dint show that . that a lot of times bajaj mentioned about this and also moloy's scary look said a lot , on beside masi's confession about the reason of coming kolkatat where bajaj wanted to take revenge from basus . so we never could deny the fact for the past baja was so much salty with basus.

and as per love , love has no bounds anything . prerna's niceness made him falling for her. bajaj was not obsessed lover at all. if he would then he would keep pressurize on prerna every time. he never let her go to help anu and basus everytime. yes as husband his ego was hurt n he was revengeful . and anurag's actions was just horrible those days , where every husband would offend to see his activity from my opinion. yes i am not justifying bajaj's action , ofcourse he was morally wrong and also some of his action. but it is never ever similar with komo ofcourse. n the redemption was thanda, the show is thanda , the story , leads love story , track everything is thanda in this show from beginning . so isse jeyada hum writers se umeed bhi nei kar sakti .

n komo dint have anything , she had ego and obsessed for getting anu on the name of love.

i know your post is about komo and bajaj . but you brought anurag also , that is why in the context i am bringing the similarities in bet them . n from last track , i said this a lot of times.

yes anurag may be ideal lead at the begging , now as well as.. but anurag jaise insaan tabtak acche hote hai jabtak situation unke control mai ho . whenever situation unke out of control chale jate hai tab they cant hide their inner insensitivity . and what was anurag in last track , no one could deny that . he went to attempt of suicide for giving pressure on prerna on the name of love. and the amount of mental torture, accusation , manhandled he did with prerna , that clearly showed his obsession on love. yes peyar lay liye fight karna jayej hai , but apne partner ko chot paucha ley nei ... and anurag in last track did the same... and jo komo everytime kar rahe hai .. farak bas itna hai in dono mai , ek positive lead, aur dusra hai vamp.. ek insensitivity apne had mai rakkhe show kia unwaqt, aur dura hadd par kar dete hai for getting love.. bass iyeahi mere explanation thi....


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Posted: 5 years ago
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@bg, although it's still the biggest mystery of kzk, 🤣, but until now they didnt show that the real reason behind bajaj marrying prerna was taking revenge from.the basus..he married her for kuki only..how it happened and the way it happened , was a disaster..no build up,nothing..pure blackmail..audience felt like she had many options but she chose the worst..



Anurag trying to win prerna, I see nothing wrong in it...obviously it was done so so badly ...this komo track is better ..prerna is sitting aaram se coz she knows anurag will come to her 😆.

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Originally posted by: BombayGirl10

Manzil,

Though i find that redemption very thanda but maybe its because it was rushed and executed badly with that mask and knife and what not but your take on that is very interesting. For me the disconnect with bajaj was mostly because of how he was introduced as the biggest kasuti between anupre. I felt it was very unorganic and was more ridiculous than komo's to be honest. They had many other opportunities to bring him in between the leads and output a better track/story than forcing him between with marriage drama.

I did facepalm when i saw bajaj asking pre to get married in their first meet. I wished they had progressed his character as ruthless and grey as they did in the first few intro episodes before starting his slow positive progression rather than changing his characteristic in every other episode. There was no need for knife , komo's silly plotting and all that stupid drama to show characters as negative one there are far better ways to execute that.


Though the story is not great but sometime its fun to understand characters and their equations here and there.


I agree with you that komo and bajaj's character journey ended on a different note.

Would love to read more about it so please do post when time permits. It was nice discussing with you 🤗 thank you


@BG

My most rooted anger with this show is HALF-BAKED everything. The Half-baked Soulmate Theory, the half-baked marriage progress, the half-baked redemption of both Anurag and Bajaj.

In totality, the entire premise of the show is half-baked.

I will tell you what biggest problem with this show is. It claims to be an exemplary divine romance, but the development was superficial. In terms of family drama, it's redundant too. It neither the quintessential dhak dhak romance genre which is currently rocking TRP's neither it is the fool's antiquity on the likes of the bahus and makkhis.

It's neither intelligent nor absolutely foolish. It's half baked everywhere. Started with a bang and fizzled out, especially the Bajaj track. I have seen deal or blackmail marriages in almost every second show. Whatever you call it 'blackmail' or 'deal' doesn't change the fact that Bajaj was an opportunistic manipulator of the situation and did turn events standing true to his word of being a shark who understood nothing but business.

Well, most such marriages work, and the story goes into various layers in most of the shows. Why? Because they do not make a BUSINESS TYCOON with a motto to DESTROY into a DOMESTICATED person doing catfights in a BASU BARI. Like the RIDICULOUS thing that could ever HAPPEN.


I would have loved a BOARDROOM dynamics rather than Anurag being the PEEPING TOM interested in BEDROOM Dynamics!

Also, the problem is not the show, because the ORIGINAL show had a HEADSTRONG female lead. Here, we had a FEMALE LEAD claiming to be a WIFE despite being HUMILIATED. That's not SASS that's TRAAS.


Similarly, Komo and Bajaj tracks were WRITTEN almost equally BADLY! That's the PROBLEM. Despite the main DIFFERENCE in their character arcs, they COULDN'T do anything with the story: period, repeated tracks of the party, pooja, accident, police, hospital. Viewers NEED A BREAK!

So, Bajaj POTENTIAL lost!

Komo POTENTIAL LOST!

ANUPRE POTENTIAL LOST TOO!

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Posted: 5 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: opsora2090


BG yes i dont find any kind of similarities . cos actually they had not . Bajaj had purpose and back story , yes makers dint show that . that a lot of times bajaj mentioned about this and also moloy's scary look said a lot , on beside masi's confession about the reason of coming kolkatat where bajaj wanted to take revenge from basus . so we never could deny the fact for the past baja was so much salty with basus.

and as per love , love has no bounds anything . prerna's niceness made him falling for her. bajaj was not obsessed lover at all. if he would then he would keep pressurize on prerna every time. he never let her go to help anu and basus everytime. yes as husband his ego was hurt n he was revengeful . and anurag's actions was just horrible those days , where every husband would offend to see his activity from my opinion. yes i am not justifying bajaj's action , ofcourse he was morally wrong and also some of his action. but it is never ever similar with komo ofcourse. n the redemption was thanda, the show is thanda , the story , leads love story , track everything is thanda in this show from beginning . so isse jeyada hum writers se umeed bhi nei kar sakti .

n komo dint have anything , she had ego and obsessed for getting anu on the name of love.

i know your post is about komo and bajaj . but you brought anurag also , that is why in the context i am bringing the similarities in bet them . n from last track , i said this a lot of times.

yes anurag may be ideal lead at the begging , now as well as.. but anurag jaise insaan tabtak acche hote hai jabtak situation unke control mai ho . whenever situation unke out of control chale jate hai tab they cant hide their inner insensitivity . and what was anurag in last track , no one could deny that . he went to attempt of suicide for giving pressure on prerna on the name of love. and the amount of mental torture, accusation , manhandled he did with prerna , that clearly showed his obsession on love. yes peyar lay liye fight karna jayej hai , but apne partner ko chot paucha ley nei ... and anurag in last track did the same... and jo komo everytime kar rahe hai .. farak bas itna hai in dono mai , ek positive lead, aur dusra hai vamp.. ek insensitivity apne had mai rakkhe show kia unwaqt, aur dura hadd par kar dete hai for getting love.. bass iyeahi mere explanation thi....



Oppo,


This back story can lead to two ways maybe bajaj had justifiable reason maybe not who knows as it was never shown.


He was not obsessed about his love but rather obssesed about keeping pre with him as wife mother bound in the marriage it's a different question whether she wanted to or not. If he really cared and respected her than what was his reason to hide his real intention of doing hit and run at that time ?

Again i don't see why pre needs any permission or green signal from bajaj to help x z y? just because you are the wife you have to ask for little things? i don't get that part. Pre never lied to him about Anurag or how she feels about him and that will never change so asking permission in such kind of relation seems off. Though occasionally pre did seek approval from him as a wife and since he knew the dynamics of their relationship he didn't have other choices as this very marriage happened for someone's safety as deal. It was not some normal arrange marriage. Well, i did hear words like "me prerna se badla leke rahungi " "I will not spare her" all from komo's mouth during that track. She treated anu as trophy and pre as a threat and i do see similarities in bajaj track with that.

Pointing to the same thing that you have mentioned love has no bounds anu's love also doesn't have any bounds. he is blamed for stalking someone's wife than what was bajaj doing when pre was engaged to anu? is there a different label that you can stalk someone's fiance but not wife? Anu's behaviour is nothing to do with him being lead and others not. After hearing things from pre's mouth about what she said in swiss and what he saw in BB made his motive strong that pre was not happy with this marriage he has experienced her happiness with him(she was not some stranger) and could differentiate easily. His reason for the attempt to suicide was self-blame and not pressure on pre. He was looking for answers about his mistakes and what he did that made pre ditched him. If i think in real-world people start questioning girls love and what not when ditched in such situation but anu didn't question pre's love for him instead he questioned himself for faults and mistakes in him.

His way was not right he lost his core sense of right and wrong that i agree. But for him pre's happiness which he was clearly able to see from her behaviour was above all these society rules (fear of her getting hurt the same was Naveen was trying to hurt her) and that was not new in this track but was same in previous tracks too. He did point out the same thing to pre when she slapped him that why was her action ok during his marriage with komo and his is wrong now? She also stalked and slapped him at that time. Again i am looking at them and their character as a whole from the first track and not from 1 track. I am not justifying his wrong actions like misusing pre's trust to do his own accident or hurt his own family. But he didn't do anything different than what pre did with him to pass this kasuti. Someone else came between his and pre's happiness and he fought back. Komo was behaving the way she was but it was all from her side only and anu behaved in a way he did but he was not one-sided.

Don't want to drag anu's topic more so stopping here.


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

@bg, although it's still the biggest mystery of kzk, 🤣, but until now they didnt show that the real reason behind bajaj marrying prerna was taking revenge from.the basus..he married her for kuki only..how it happened and the way it happened , was a disaster..no build up,nothing..pure blackmail..audience felt like she had many options but she chose the worst..



Anurag trying to win prerna, I see nothing wrong in it...obviously it was done so so badly ...this komo track is better ..prerna is sitting aaram se coz she knows anurag will come to her 😆.

Hahah i would love to solve that mystery someday charu 😆 second reason was not any better or logical than first one but its ok its story so. I am also considering it as TV show and enjoying whatever i feel i can let other things go. Somethings are interesting some are not but i know its reel so its ok.


Anu was going to get called out for that i knew very well. If he is fighting he is wrong if he is taking thing as face value than he is coward for giving up etc etc so i am not surprised. What surprised me was bad execution and character butchering Pre is eating popcorn and enjoying her pregnancy.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul


@BG

My most rooted anger with this show is HALF-BAKED everything. The Half-baked Soulmate Theory, the half-baked marriage progress, the half-baked redemption of both Anurag and Bajaj.

In totality, the entire premise of the show is half-baked.

I will tell you what biggest problem with this show is. It claims to be an exemplary divine romance, but the development was superficial. In terms of family drama, it's redundant too. It neither the quintessential dhak dhak romance genre which is currently rocking TRP's neither it is the fool's antiquity on the likes of the bahus and makkhis.

It's neither intelligent nor absolutely foolish. It's half baked everywhere. Started with a bang and fizzled out, especially the Bajaj track. I have seen deal or blackmail marriages in almost every second show. Whatever you call it 'blackmail' or 'deal' doesn't change the fact that Bajaj was an opportunistic manipulator of the situation and did turn events standing true to his word of being a shark who understood nothing but business.

Well, most such marriages work, and the story goes into various layers in most of the shows. Why? Because they do not make a BUSINESS TYCOON with a motto to DESTROY into a DOMESTICATED person doing catfights in a BASU BARI. Like the RIDICULOUS thing that could ever HAPPEN.


I would have loved a BOARDROOM dynamics rather than Anurag being the PEEPING TOM interested in BEDROOM Dynamics!

Also, the problem is not the show, because the ORIGINAL show had a HEADSTRONG female lead. Here, we had a FEMALE LEAD claiming to be a WIFE despite being HUMILIATED. That's not SASS that's TRAAS.


Similarly, Komo and Bajaj tracks were WRITTEN almost equally BADLY! That's the PROBLEM. Despite the main DIFFERENCE in their character arcs, they COULDN'T do anything with the story: period, repeated tracks of the party, pooja, accident, police, hospital. Viewers NEED A BREAK!

So, Bajaj POTENTIAL lost!

Komo POTENTIAL LOST!

ANUPRE POTENTIAL LOST TOO!



You have summed up all my feelings for the show👏

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Posted: 5 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: manzilmukul


@BG

My most rooted anger with this show is HALF-BAKED everything. The Half-baked Soulmate Theory, the half-baked marriage progress, the half-baked redemption of both Anurag and Bajaj.

In totality, the entire premise of the show is half-baked.

I will tell you what biggest problem with this show is. It claims to be an exemplary divine romance, but the development was superficial. In terms of family drama, it's redundant too. It neither the quintessential dhak dhak romance genre which is currently rocking TRP's neither it is the fool's antiquity on the likes of the bahus and makkhis.

It's neither intelligent nor absolutely foolish. It's half baked everywhere. Started with a bang and fizzled out, especially the Bajaj track. I have seen deal or blackmail marriages in almost every second show. Whatever you call it 'blackmail' or 'deal' doesn't change the fact that Bajaj was an opportunistic manipulator of the situation and did turn events standing true to his word of being a shark who understood nothing but business.

Well, most such marriages work, and the story goes into various layers in most of the shows. Why? Because they do not make a BUSINESS TYCOON with a motto to DESTROY into a DOMESTICATED person doing catfights in a BASU BARI. Like the RIDICULOUS thing that could ever HAPPEN.


I would have loved a BOARDROOM dynamics rather than Anurag being the PEEPING TOM interested in BEDROOM Dynamics!

Also, the problem is not the show, because the ORIGINAL show had a HEADSTRONG female lead. Here, we had a FEMALE LEAD claiming to be a WIFE despite being HUMILIATED. That's not SASS that's TRAAS.


Similarly, Komo and Bajaj tracks were WRITTEN almost equally BADLY! That's the PROBLEM. Despite the main DIFFERENCE in their character arcs, they COULDN'T do anything with the story: period, repeated tracks of the party, pooja, accident, police, hospital. Viewers NEED A BREAK!

So, Bajaj POTENTIAL lost!

Komo POTENTIAL LOST!

ANUPRE POTENTIAL LOST TOO!


Manzil,

Your post is amazing and i wish makers would read this. From what all i have seen from start is its all about TRP ? i think that is the biggest problem. Them running behind TRP, profitable for them but not enjoyable to the audience. Recently i saw an IV of KZK 2's views like at the very start of the show apart from fangirling over their fav's they clearly said that they wanted 2019 story and fresh storyline with these characters. Do makers ever bother about the public review if not they should have considered it.

This complaint about writing story characters what not has been going on in this forum from day one be it anupre lover or individual character lovers. I thought now komo is here now we will see something sensible and good story to justify the theme but 👎🏼 bajaj came and again the same result so its like clear sign from makers this is what we will write take it or leave it kind of thing.


I am here because however stupid it is i felt connected to anupre but i have my own reasons for it and similarly, others too with different reasons but the biggest kauti for me is the story and execution. They never speared even a week for dhak dhak romance or never speared a week for office drama in any track. Makers itself is not clear on what they want to do or show and hence we see so much character butchering and bashing every passing day.


You forgot marriages in your list 😆 which tops all the others.


Thank you for your post manzil👍🏼

Edited by BombayGirl10 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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@piu fabulous post 👏 Absolutely well written and it sums up all our complaints..



@bg, do you realize in all threads we end up discussing the writing 😆 there is no point in arguing over who is better or worse , all were written by the same person and written equally bad...difference only comes in fangirling . I dont think there is anyone who appreciates the serial as a whole , its story writing and execution...there isnt a single person who is liking what they are watching on screen....everyone just talks about the actors and pairs ...and characters as pairs..its ok ..


I believe we didnt have a civil convo with all characters being discussed freely since a long time.. kudos to us 😆 we r good at self moderation.

Edited by _charu_ - 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soanz.19



You have summed up all my feelings for the show👏


I was wanting to vent out for a long time. Thanks to the ban lift, I can do that now

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