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Originally posted by: MOnamy11

I love KSG ! But for me the character is foremost important.

Rishab Bajaj is not a shallow easy goody two shoes character! He has a foundation, a certain depth, a vision which is almost next to non existent in ITV MLs! His actions speaks louder than his words. A lot of people says that RB is only popular because of KSG but it's not the case for me.

Is RB cunning? Yes! Is he manupulative? Yes! Does he place great importance to money and business? Yes. Point is his flaws are shown meticulously just to establish his grey persona,while the other hand people like Mohini, Nivedita, even Anurag are shown entitled to express their superiority at one moment and the next big buckets of tears and emotional BGM just overshadow their character flaws.

If KSG had played the role of the other ML, even Karan couldn't have made me watch it. Period.

I was drawn to this show because of my absolute love for Parth, he is just fantastic as Anurag Basu but even my undaunted devotion to Parth’s finesse couldn’t keep me hooked to Anupre. But, things changed because of Rishabh Bajaj, as a character he brought me back to the show and then I was stunned to See KSG as the seamless Bajaj!

I don’t defend Bajaj ever but I like him as a character. His madness drives the story. He could be called whatever but there’s a method in his madness! Fascinating to be precise.

Originally posted by: SheAish

Sorry for being an idiot here, but I feel that your first statement and your last lines of the para is kind of contradictory?

Or should I take it as, for your even if did turn out they show that Bajaj DID actually try to kill Anu in that accident, he is justified...but not subsequent attempts if he does make them? That first attempt would be justified according to you..if it does happen to be true?

Nothing is justified or unjustified. I am stating the reason for that attempt as stated by RB himself. It is a standalone incident. If his murder intent was clear and strong, Anurag would be dead, Bajaj would be in jail, and the show would be over with a bereaving P. 😆

Originally posted by: MOnamy11

Well Thank God he's chosen to play my favorite ML of ITV! And don't have to go through the sheer toture of playing Anurag. As both Arman Malik and Asad Ahmed Khan KSG did a great job and these two character were also my favourites.

They were also idealistic but not hypocrits

Originally posted by: bashful_moon

The same devotee who leched and lusted after Lord Shiva's wife, and even asked the Lord to endow him with Goddess Parvati during one of Lord's Shiva's intoxication spells?

The same Ravana who abducted Sita, Lord Rama's wife with cunning and deceit?

Anurag is NO MaryadaPurushottam, he never was, never will be... In fact he has neither those principles nor those traits to be one.

But the Ravana who never adhered to any principles and any boundaries when it came to women suddenly becomes someone with principles and boundaries, just because Bajaj was compared with him?

Like seriously?

Glorifying a demon, that too the one who had no principles, boundaries and scruples when it came to woman is suddenly hailed as the one with principles and boundaries to defend a fictional character Bajaj because he is currently being compared to Ravan?

Can it get more ridiculous than this?

What? Are you kidding me? Do you not know that you should know what we were talking about before making these statements?

I don't mind Bajaj being completely negative villain, I also stated that good wins over evil, I am not offended with them equating Bajaj to Ravana, I won't mind if Bajaj has the same fate as Ravana, if he is evil like Ravana then show him like Ravana not like a silly joker. This was the conversation. There was no glorification whatsoever

Then another part was that I was offended with Anurag being shown as Lord Rama when Lord Rama is worshipped accorss India and he is hailed as epitome of what a man should be like and Anurag is not Lord Rama.

Where the hell was glorification of demon when one is wishing for his death? You have got to be kidding me, at least read what two people are saying before giving your expert opinion, it wasn't required. Ridiculous

Originally posted by: NoraSM

What? Are you kidding me? Do you not know that you should know what we were talking about before making these statements?

I don't mind Bajaj being completely negative villain, I also stated that good wins over evil, I am not offended with them equating Bajaj to Ravana, I won't mind if Bajaj has the same fate as Ravana, if he is evil like Ravana then show him like Ravana not like a Joker, this was the conversation.

Then another part was that I was offended with Anurag being shown as Lord Rama when Lord Rama is worshipped accorss India and he is hailed as epitome of what a man should be like and Anurag is not Lord Rama.

Where the hell was glorification of demon when one is wishing for his death? You have got to be kidding me, at least read what two people are saying before giving your expert opinion, it wasn't required. Ridiculous

Nope... not kidding at all... I did not make theories, did I?

Where the hell was glorification of demon? Here when you wote this :

"Ravana had many shades, he was biggest devotee of Lord Shiva and he had his own principles and boundaries".

Equating Ravana with pricinciples and boundaries is where you started your kidding... I didn't do that..

Thanks for the advice but start with yourself please... Don't give your expert opinion that Ravan was someone with principles and boundaries, where that was clearly not the case... It doesn't ooze of logic but of ridiculousness of the highest order.

The ridiculousness that is neither required nor appreciated..

I agree on Anurag's part though.. It is offensive to compare him to Lord Rama when he has neither the substance not the principle and grit of the Lord.

Originally posted by: bashful_moon

Nope... not kidding at all... I did not make theories, did I?

Where the hell was glorification of demon? Here when you wote this :

"Ravana had many shades, he was biggest devotee of Lord Shiva and he had his own principles and boundaries".

Equating Ravana with pricinciples and boundaries is where you started your kidding... I didn't do that..

Thanks for the advice but start with yourself please... Don't give your expert opinion that Ravan was someone with principles and boundaries, where that was clearly not the case... It doesn't ooze of logic but of ridiculousness of the highest order.

The statement is self explanatory, I do not care if you can not interpret for what it is

"HIS OWN PRINCIPLES AND BOUNDARIES"

What part of this do you not get? HIS OWN means MADE BY and FOLLOWED BY HIM, what the actual fu©k, where is glorification? Someone creating line for himself and violating others right doesn't mean he is good, he is still the devil. This is why I said that good wins over evil, Ravana was evil, there are no two ways about this.

You come between two people talking to each other, do not follow what was written prior to this particular post and I have to explain myself to a stranger on forum sitting there to judge people and misinterpret statements.

I don't want to create a scene and I have edited my post, here is my apology if I offended you in any way and please don't ever talk to me or quote me after this, I will be forever grateful to you. Thank You, have a good day 🙏

Originally posted by: NoraSM

The statement is self explanatory, I do not care if you can not interpret for what it is

"HIS OWN PRINCIPLES AND BOUNDARIES"

What part of this do you not get? HIS OWN means MADE BY and FOLLOWED BY HIM, what the actual fu©k, where is glorification?

You come between two people talking to each other, do not follow what was written prior to this particular post and I have to explain myself to a stranger on forum sitting there to judge people and misinterpret statements.

I don't want to create a scene and I have edited my post, here is my apology if I offended you in any way and please don't ever talk to me or quote me after this, I will be forever grateful to you. Thank You, have a good day 🙏

His own principles and boundaries?

principles to lech and lust after every woman and boundary that did not stop him from lusting after Goddess and abduct someone else's wife?

This is an open thread not an IO... There is no rule that one cannot quote the other's post... Stranger? LMAO... Even strangers can participate in a discussion happening between two friends, or have the rule changed of late? Misinterpret... Whatever floats your boat, eh?

I won't quote you ever again... As long as you do not glorify demons and satans, i won't quote you... PROMISe..

Have a good day too!!! And Peace out!!!

Originally posted by: moniloveanupre

sneha this iswhere kasauti writters lacks

they r actually justify bajaj & start whitewashing him .

sneha grey character r those whose act is justify like ravan we justify its a reaction of surpnakha attack by laxman .

similarally karan called draupadi p.....

movies of amitabh bacchan trshool deewar

point is they never whitewash these character .come on accept it bajaj blackmail pre for marriage mo need to justify this for kuki its deal. i respect pre. we as an audience how this act is crime

& for grey character they diretly take badla from that man .here its like baap ka badla bete se le raha hai its totally make that character black

look in bazigar even we like srk but we cant say he is grey character because he did a crime against a innocent ppl

Agree, that's why I said Writers are doing a shoddy job.

Otherwise grey characters are quite interesting and make amazing villians or anti-hero compared to plain white or black characters

Originally posted by: SnehaDoll

He is still grey.

Who said Villians can't be grey.

Grey doesn't mean good Characters with little flaws.

Look at Maya from Beyhadh. No man can possibly be with someone that manipulative and obsessed. She even murdered people.

Yet she is GREY.

Grey means having layers to them and not plain white or black. Grey has nothing to do with good or bad people.

Grey villians make the plot more interesting.

Lol..then define villain ...

N if u talk about Maya she can't be called grey..then what is she..I mean seriously u call her grey...

Bajaj from.s1 was grey but Maya is definately villan like Shahrukh from Darr...k k k k kiran

Originally posted by: najma123

No they aren't contradictory. Well, if Bajaj wanted to still kill Anurag, there are still ways to try killing him and he can easily pass it off as a legit accident without involving himself. Is it that hard? No. The fact that he really hasn't tried killing him subsequently kind of reassures that he isn't a serial killer who only plans and replans to kill people. Yeah, he could have purposely run over Anurag, in fact I already believe he did that. But I think he also said, you tried to do something silly for sympathy. I decided to make it sweeter. It was a savage thing to say and do, but again, that was one incident and I think the only incident barring the house takeover incident when Bajaj retaliated. Yeah this shit was more serious. But since he was doing it as a befitting response to a novice conspirator, I can accept that.

Nothing is justified or unjustified. I am stating the reason for that attempt as stated by RB himself. It is a standalone incident. If his murder intent was clear and strong, Anurag would be dead, Bajaj would be in jail, and the show would be over with a bereaving P. 😆

So what you are saying is that based on his characterization as you see it, what he said was just a savage reply and not him actually admitting trying to kill Anu in that accident? Pleas could you just give a clear answer so I don't get confused and go in circles?😆

And you are saying that had he actually wanted to kill Anu he would have already done that because he is sharp enough and has means enough to do it and get away with it?

I can agree to both these as far as this show is concerned because CVs can show anything they want.

But if you are trying to leverage that had Bajaj wanted he could have killed Anu and that accident would have killed Anu if Bajaj had really wanted, I'll say although Bajaj does try to play God, he isn't God, so all he can do is attempt and whether his attempt is successful or not is upto the lord himself...Same as far as getting away with murder is concerned. One can be the greatest scheamer, but at the end of the day taking lives away from someone is granted by god himself, so even the most successful looking attempt might not work...even a bullet to the head, or brain have many examples of survivors even in the real world and this is a serial where even the impossible is shown...

Again back to the question. IF the first attempt was actually a real one and not just play of words and a mind game, for you the fan is it justified...not Bajaj the character? Or are you only not OK with only subsequent such attempts.

BTW, If you are reluctant to answer in a straight foward way, let me ask you this....DO you feel all the murders and harm that Maya caused to others (discounting her father here) was justified? I'll get an idea of your thinking process from this if not specifically about Bajaj.