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Posted: 6 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: prerna4rishav


Nope I don’t agree with the term. The dictionary meaning is completely different but I am not even going there. It was a proposal which she could very much reject and get him ousted on merit or gathering proofs. They are the hero heroines no ? Aint they supposed to behave themselves and show the heroic way ? What is this opting for an easy way out and crying over that that it wasn’t exactly how they wanted things to happen?


In reality, we don’t get marriage proposals in such situations where our near and dear ones lives are hanging by a thread. At most it’s bribe or compromise or something like that, even then we DO reject those shits and focus on legal ways dont we ? And whoever falls into these traps, dont play a hero in others’ lives. At most they just play as an example of ‘what not to do’.

I really have a hard time with this whole dictionary definition of blackmail versus deal. And her having an option to refuse. Yes, theoretically, there is always an option, no matter in what desperate straits you are in.

In reality, not at all. Check with any police department, or a social service organization. Speaking as someone who has had some exposure to such things, let me assure you that what Bajaj did is text book case of what blackmail is.

Blackmail is powerful because it is always subtle, always gives the victim the impression that they are in control and it is their decision, and almost always involves some threat to a close loved one.
And the most insidious aspect is that the blackmailer convinces the victim that they agreed to the agreement/deal. That they had a choice to walk away. THAT IT IS THEIR OWN FAULT they are in the situation they are.


You guys have no clue how many women actually end up loosing their lives because of this misplaced fear, self-blame, self-hatred, despondence. Some succumb to Stockholm syndrome where they are so brainwashed they start thinking their blackmailer loves them, and others try to commit suicide.


So forgive me for this. I have been a silent reader in the forum and have tried my best to not respond to this silly definition of "blackmail" which gets trotted so often. But I just could not help myself today

My stomach is clenched tightly just as I am typing this.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Wondering if post marriage RB can look himself in the mirror and not feel an twinge of regret or bad about the way he handled matters with Pre.

My guess is right now he’s way too arrogant he believes there are no shadows around him even in broad daylight.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI

Legally any action under duress is illegal. Had Pre said she was drugged or forced to sign the document the court will rule in Pre’s favor.

If Anu gets proof against RB he could use it. A wife cannot be forced to testify against her husband. Maybe that’s where Pre’s loyalty will be. She won’t support Anu in annulling her wedding to RB.

This whole track leaves a bitter taste.

thats where bajaj further ruing anu will work as justification as they showed in kom track.

but anu will claim his baby is not safe in bajaj house as he is his enemy can harm his child .

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: invest_probe

I really have a hard time with this whole dictionary definition of blackmail versus deal. And her having an option to refuse. Yes, theoretically, there is always an option, no matter in what desperate straits you are in.

In reality, not at all. Check with any police department, or a social service organization. Speaking as someone who has had some exposure to such things, let me assure you that what Bajaj did is text book case of what blackmail is.

IBlackmail is powerful because it is always subtle, always gives the victim the impression that they are in control and it is their decision, and almost always involves some threat to a close loved one.
And the most insidious aspect is that the blackmailer convinces the victim that they agreed to the agreement/deal. That they had a choice to walk away. THAT IT IS THEIR OWN FAULT they are in the situation they are.


You guys have no clue how many women actually end up loosing their lives because of this misplaced fear, self-blame, self-hatred, despondence. Some succumb to Stockholm syndrome where they are so brainwashed they start thinking their blackmailer loves them, and others try to commit suicide.


So forgive me for this. I have been a silent reader in the forum and have tried my best to not respond to this silly definition of "blackmail" which gets trotted so often. But I just could not help myself today

My stomach is clenched tightly just as I am typing this.


Thank you for this excellent post.👍🏼👏 You explained it very clearly.

This is usually the tactics that mafia bosses and some corporate raiders use. The implied threat of not making the choice the blackmailer wants is so subtle the person doesn’t realize they have been manipulated to fall in line.

Blackmail is an act of intimidation that is horrifying to the one on the receiving end but helpless to do anything but give in. It’s the subtlety of it that’s misleading and makes it appear that the blackmailer is not forcing the issue and that the person is free to choose. Reality is the situation leaves no choice but the one blackmailer has cornered the person into doing what they want.

Blackmailers hold their cards close and mislead the other person to believe what it is they want them to believe.

In this case RB did just that. Will CVs show a socially responsible message with this track? It affects a lot of women.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI

Thank you for this excellent post.👍🏼👏 You explained it very clearly.

This is usually the tactics that mafia bosses and some corporate raiders use. The implied threat of not making the choice the blackmailer wants is so subtle the person doesn’t realize they have been manipulated to fall in line.

Blackmail is an act of intimidation that is horrifying to the one on the receiving end but helpless to do anything but give in. It’s the subtlety of it that’s misleading and makes it appear that the blackmailer is not forcing the issue and that the person is free to choose. Reality is the situation leaves no choice but the one blackmailer has cornered the person into doing what they want.

Blackmailers hold their cards close and mislead the other person to believe what it is they want them to believe.

In this case RB did just that. Will CVs show a socially responsible message with this track? It affects a lot of women.

exactly that. Blackmailer has all the cards and the victim none. Rishab Bajaj subjected to Prerna to it "do as I say or else"
and most disappointing aspect is we are arguing about semantics when in real life this is actually what it is. It is fine to root for a villain. But do it openly and not behind semantics like the infamous "what is the definition of "is" ?"

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: invest_probe

exactly that. Blackmailer has all the cards and the victim none. Rishab Bajaj subjected to Prerna to it "do as I say or else"
and most disappointing aspect is we are arguing about semantics when in real life this is actually what it is. It is fine to root for a villain. But do it openly and not behind semantics like the infamous "what is the definition of "is" ?"

Earlier in one of my posts I actually posted the dictionary definition of blackmail and tried to draw attention to the “hiding the truth and forcing the other to bend to their will is the classic act of a blackmailer.”

A common occurrence, letters compromising photographs are photoshopped and person blackmailed though originals prove their innocence.

It’s quite a dangerous ....... if young women disregard the truth about blackmailing bec it’s presented through a fav fictional character. That’s why it’s important to shed light on the nature of something like blackmail that can impact people’s lives in a big way.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I usually try to keep away from any sort of controversial discussion but certain things just required to be addressed.

Honestly trying to say that prerna marriage to bajaj was not a coercion is completely wrong and blind. To say she had a choice is again a falsity. No she had no choice. She WAS forced. She had not a literal but a figurative gun to her head in the form of Anurag's ongoing court case. And to say that she didn't try to save him and jumped at the 'easier' option is also not true. She did try by hiring the best possible lawyer and during her witness statement the case was brought to a point where the judge asked for further evidence. It was only when it was obvious that the power she was fighting against had fingers in many different pies and she could not defeat him, that she succumbed. That is not called taking the easy way out or making a deal. That's coercion.

A deal is made between two parties who are on equal grounds and set equal terms. A situation where one party holds all the cards and dictates all the terms is no deal. Its blackmail. Fans can coat it any which way to make it more palatable, but that's not going to change.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: hope4u

I usually try to keep away from any sort of controversial discussion but certain things just required to be addressed.

Honestly trying to say that prerna marriage to bajaj was not a coercion is completely wrong and blind. To say she had a choice is again a falsity. No she had no choice. She WAS forced. She had not a literal but a figurative gun to her head in the form of Anurag's ongoing court case. And to say that she didn't try to save him and jumped at the 'easier' option is also not true. She did try by hiring the best possible lawyer and during her witness statement the case was brought to a point where the judge asked for further evidence. It was only when it was obvious that the power she was fighting against had fingers in many different pies and she could not defeat him, that she succumbed. That is not called taking the easy way out or making a deal. That's coercion.

A deal is made between two parties who are on equal grounds and set equal terms. A situation where one party holds all the cards and dictates all the terms is no deal. Its blackmail. Fans can coat it any which way to make it more palatable, but that's not going to change.

Spot on.

We can appreciate actor’s performance but also be aware and understand the nature of some society’s ills and not give the character a free pass for Gatiya acts. Hero or villain some things are not acceptable and can be called out.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: hope4u

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A deal is made between two parties who are on equal grounds and set equal terms. A situation where one party holds all the cards and dictates all the terms is no deal. Its blackmail. Fans can coat it any which way to make it more palatable, but that's not going to change.

A normal person has faith in DNA results. But here even DNA results were cooked. So what can she have done? What power did she have?

If anyone had power, it was the Basu clan. But it appears their fancy connections are only for parties and jewelry competitions and showoffs. When there is trouble, be it Moloy accident or Anurag being framed, all their rich, fancy connections disappear.

It is left up-to a young, poor, connectionless Prerna to save him. And when she cannot, and has to accept a soul destroying blackmail, people say "it was her choice" "she took the easy way" etc.

bottom line is this. Bajaj, for his own nefarious, dark schemes, sought to acquire Prerna as a trophy. And he squeezed her in every way such that she had no options left but take the deal, or see him hang.

And we are kidding ourselves if we think that had Anurag not taken Ronit's bait, things would not have come to pass. The man has shown the extreme lengths he goes to in order to get what he wants, including manslaughter. He would have found a way. He knew Anurag's weakness was Prerna. And he would have found a way to exploit it.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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invest prob

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