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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: IFLove

The original iconic bajaj might have been created beautifully, idk, I didn't watch him. This bajaj, I m not sure yet.

Didn't he give the dues to gujral's employees, if I not wrong? I might be wrong since I can't hear bajaj many times. N if he gave the money to those employees, it was definitely to manipulate them, not to value the assets of the company. And why will he not pay to his employees? He has money to buy the whole world after all. He will pay money to everybody who r giving him benefits. Paying the dues of employees is not something ethical, its just normal, not unnecessarily restricting the dues of employees is ethical.

Placing value on baby company being funny is as filmy a dialogue as the cheesy romantic dialogues of anupre are. Just because one has raised their company as their bay doesn't mean it has got no financial value

Manipulating unions has been the norm for ages. Every single company does it. Coz unions are manipulated by their leader himself. He didn't just pay their dues, he raised them as well. I am not saying that makes him grey and not black. It has a financial value, but the kind of offence Gujral took, considering he hadn't been running his company well at all, and questioned this man's ethics, that wasn't ethical. It could be termed as a hostile takeover. A hostile takeover doesn't make a businessman black. Moreover, in addition, I do agree with whatever you are saying. That said, this is all that has been revealed of the character so far. And what I mentioned, is something that makes him not black to me.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Hi sorry if I offended you in calling Anurag or Orerna black that was not my intention. Alll I was pointing was that the storytellers do what they please in the name of drama and in the name of creating so called Iconic characters and star crossed lovers

Hugs you way

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Posted: 6 years ago
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If a child comes out of womb crying, I won't label him a rotlu, stupid analogy? Perhaps, what I am trying to convey is that they haven't explored Bajaj enough to label him positive or negative, he is in the middle, a mystery.

Grey characters are not bad with one person, this is a restricting definition. Joker from Batman is considered a grey character by many. A man is complete psycho but he stops before killing a child or a woman, this little point makes him grey.

We have seen Mr. Bajaj interacting with his business rivals and his staff, he is good to his staff and ruthless with his business rivals. We can talk about work ethics but the fact is that lawmakers change laws to help businesses, how do we explain Mukesh Ambani's wealth after 2008 recession?

Edited by NoraSM - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: IFLove

Oh so that was a reply to my post! U got me wondering what I did to receive a love letter now😂

Anyways thanks for Ur comment. Though I m not totally convinced, but it's about perception as u say. I was not interested in colour coding him at first but whenever I made any post about bajaj, I saw black and grey r being used for defending him as per convenience. So I wanted to be sure. I don't expect him to be a good character when I have Anurag but if he has something bad in him n hence I point that out, I m called out for supposedly bashing a good man? N if he is a good man and I expect something good out of him, I m told that he is not a good man. N this confusion leads to reporting and closing of the threads.

Since I m replying to a mod, I would like to say this that in komo phase, she too played mind games with Anurag n the viewers called her out for her atrocities too, but since there were not many Hina fans here at that time, the reporting n closing of the threads was slow n everybody had freedom of speech. Since the entry of bajaj, I have been thinking at least thrice before writing a post, I swear, so that it should not offend anybody. Bajaj fans calling Anupre boring, stupid, cheesy etc and Anupre fans calling bajaj creep, ruthless, immoral etc is all about perception as u also said. As confessed by many bajaj fans, they r watching only bajaj parts n not the entire episode. However Anupre fans or the general viewers r watching whole episode since ages. Hence most bajaj fans don't make any posts against Anupre but Anupre fans discuss bajaj too which the bajaj fans find offending n the threads of anupre fans r getting locked. Lets not get too sensitive about any character. And till the time this closing of threads continues, the members who r reporting silly things shall not stop. So I request u mods to please ignore the reporting n give us all some liberty to voice out our opinions like we used to do before. I do not intend to teach y'all Ur job, this is just a request to provide some space that is much needed in this forum. Also, just because I have spoken on behalf of anupre fans, I do not intend to bash or blame bajaj fans. My only intention was that Anupre fans r going through a not so pleasant phase of the show, though they were prepared, they will definitely find it difficult n they will want to express their displeasure n they should get a space for that. Since there's nothing much about anupre in the episodes these days, they'll obviously discuss bajaj more than Anupre. So please let us get that space.

Anyways thanks for Ur comment

Mod ke bhi jazbaat hote hain wo bhi show dekhte hain and we also like to discuss the show so please treat us as members discussing the show and not bring moderation into everything ...mod is also a member with her own views and likings like we all do.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: -RD-

Mod ke bhi jazbaat hote hain wo bhi show dekhte hain and we also like to discuss the show so please treat us as members discussing the show and not bring moderation into everything ...mod is also a member with her own views and likings like we all do.

@if love

@RD

Were you on the Bepannaah forum

I mean analysis is pretty good.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Thank you for this post. The ONLY reason people refuse to label Bajaj as a villain or evil is because IN THE FUTURE he’ll turn good. But that may not even be true because that’s on the basis of season 1. But Prernas characterization has been so butchered that she doesn’t resemble anywhere near season 1 Prerna so why are we giving Bajaj the benefit of the doubt of season 1. It’s laughable because it’s only because of KSG. Just because in the future Bajaj will be good or better doesn’t change the fact that he’s manipulated Prerna, blackmailed her, used her weakness against her, is basically a narcissistic asshole, and likes to play with peoples emotions for fun. All of these are true based on the narrative until now. So it’s okay for people to call out Bajaj on those things because you can’t say that we’re lying or reading too much into his characterization.

If you do want to talk about the future, let’s do it. Bajaj is marrying Prerna and she will be another mother to Bajajs daughter. So marrying a woman just so she can take care of your daughter is misogynistic af. Woman are not only good for marrying and being mothers. So what’s the dofference between him and Anurag then? So yeah I’m not here for that track whatsoever.

When Bajaj shows redeemable qualities then I will start reconsidering how I feel about him. I love characters that grow from their mistakes and make sound decisions, so I’ll be waiting for that patiently. For now, Bajaj is a villain because nothing about him says otherwise.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: -RD-

Mod ke bhi jazbaat hote hain wo bhi show dekhte hain and we also like to discuss the show so please treat us as members discussing the show and not bring moderation into everything ...mod is also a member with her own views and likings like we all do.

I had seen ur replies before, not munni's so got surprised, anyways appreciated her comment too.

And my request to her as a mod was a different part altogether. Because creating a special thread for requesting mods is not allowed and pm might get missed, I just took an opportunity to convey my message to her since I m actually too frustrated with the war zone kind of environment on this forum and miss the freedom of speech and a little liberty and some fun we used to have before. Sorry if that's not allowed too.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Salutethearmy

@if love

@RD

Were you on the Bepannaah forum

I mean analysis is pretty good.

Yeah yeah...very much. Big fan of Bepannaah, all its characters n actors. I miss everything about it...the show, the actors, the forum, the sane forum members n the sensible n fun discussions we used to have!

Thanks for the compliment btw😊

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: IFLove

About bajaj, he has been destroying his competitors by unfair means or using his power...be it Basu's or others like that showed in his first episode.


Which unfair means ? 🤔 He uses the weak point of a company and takes over it in his own terms and conditions. In which world it's called Unfair I dont get it. Please explain a bit more on this. Also, let's talk about what is shown till now in the show, not assumptions that Bajaj orchestrated the jail thing for Anurag.


He is shown not to have manners of talking to others. He is shown not to respect others...the way he left the seminar while that principal lady was speaking or the way he smoke in front of prerna. He is in his bubble only. When he rejected that lady who was seducing him, I thought he respects women but the way he has been plotting things around prerna, I lost this impression too.


Actually I thought he has too much of manners that he didn't throw Anurag and then Prerna out with the help of security and allowed them to continue their shouting in his own house. I mean even a common man will not tolerate this much nuisance at their own houses. This is enough of a proof to many that he is a gentleman enough to listen to their rantings and even answer them.


Please give me some white points about him that help me turn this black character into grey in my mind. Being smart, handsome, intelligent etc doesn't count as that has got nothing to do with character of a person.


Hope the above one helps.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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