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Posted: 6 years ago
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I have been watching the forum descend into a bit of a battle zone over the last few days and it looks like this might be just the first of many battles to come. I’ve finally read many of the comments at on various thread and wanted to say the following:

- People need to stop fooling themselves that Kasauti 1 was this amazing show. I’ve heard some of the stories and it is full of inconsistencies, bad writing sometimes, good writing other times, good actors and bad actors, good storylines and bad storylines. This is not it’s fault. It is humanly impossible to make a show run for 5 days a week, every week for 7 years consistently good. So we don’t need to constantly fight this battle that kasauti 1 is better than Kasauti 2 or vice versus. Everyone needs to accept that you may have liked kasauti 1 or currently like Kasautii 2 for a specific reason or a specific relationship and leave it at that.

- Indian series are ensemble pieces where everyone has to play a strong role not least because the leads may go on holiday, become sick, its boring to always focus on the same two people constantly etc etc. So a series can’t survive on just the leads. For example yesterday’s episode was a totally AnuPrelicous episode but almost everyone spends ages appreciating the scene of Veena, Prerna mom. However, the reality is that failures tend to be blamed on there leads, but successes are shared. None is going to say Kasautii 2 isn’t working because veena is bad but they will say it works and is successful because in addition to anupre, we also have good ensemble actors. This is the same with TRP, when it’s low it will be anupres fault and when it high it will be the ensembles work.

- The idea of Komolika (for all that many people didn’t think hina played the role well) was and is a hit. There are so many memes about her and even comedians like Kisha Kapila are doing Komolika based skits. I think the writers got Komolika 2 wrong for two reasons (1) they did not take into account the surprise incredible popularity of anupre and (2) they went with a lot of the old fashioned storyline of blackmail, pregnancy etc which are such archaic concepts. No one thinks or accept these sort of stories anymore because India has changed, even the TRP aunties. If they had gone for a different Komolika - one who was politically motivated and wanted revenge for her sister or even had a crush on anurag - they could have kept her for ages yet! Why did she have to be reduced to this caricature whose only interest was anurag? Is this all women are?

- Bajaj is coming and he is here stay. We need to get used to it. But does it have to always a fight for prerna? Why can’t the story be about more than marriages and remarriage and cheating and blackmail. In this day and age of Netflix and some crazy amazing serials why are we still stuck in the dark ages? I hope the writers learn from the Komolika experience and make bajaj an interesting character and create a story that has more than circles and circles of cheap drama.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Thank you for this post. The reason that I think KZK1 seems like a better show than KZK2 is because when KZK1 aired, it was consistent with the times. It was all about the typical sass bahu hype. So although stories were over the top, it worked because that was the norm of the time. Like you said, nowadays we have Netflix shows and content that’s full of twists and turns that’s anything but redundant. So, in the midst of “progressive” content, seeing the same shit being regurgitated with different actors is just uninspired and lazy.

I also appreciate Komolika. She’s needed in this show. I honestly think Hina just needed time to find her footing and in the last few episodes with her, I felt connected to her, even as just a performer. I wish her character entailed more than hair twirling and eye rolls tho.

KSG playing Bajaj was a fantastic idea. Not that Parth can’t carry the male lead title but with strong actors, it will be worth the watch. The story may be shit but good actors make it a little bit better!

And yes I agree with how people need to stop blaming the leads but I’m also guilty of that lmao

Edited by music_l0ver036 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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KZK 1 was a far superior show than KZK 2, it is not looking bad because of change in time, as a matter of fact kzk 2 only manages to look decent because quality of all the shows have decreased like crazy, if this show had come in 2001 it would not have done well, yes kzk 1 had weird writing, but actors managed to pull it off, I don’t see the same in this season.

Edited by kalank - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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KZK 1 was ahead of its time because they showed the taboo of being a single mother and that single mother getting past her hardships to do well in her career👏👏 Obviously there were lot bad things too like multiple marriages of Anurag and Prerna. In doing this whole reboot Ekta decided to get rid of the very positive thing I liked about the previous version 🤔 The only way they can redeem themselves right now is they better not rehash the number of leaps and marriages of the previous season.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Do not agree with the point that KZK1 wasn't great ! Well both 1 and 2 are shit, but 2 is of some epic level shit. KZK1 had lots of relatable things, Anurag-Prerna confession was one of the most simplest thing back then. They did not have to justify pre marital sex with some stupid secret dhaga marriage. Prerna wasn't devoid of self respect that she'd settle in Basu house demanding Biwi#1 status of Anurag. Anurag did work on pashchataap by secretly helping Prerna on professional front so that she can move on in her life. He did try to sincerely invest in his marriage with Komo. I keep reading that because he consummated and moved on in his life, AP love story wasn't deep. Really ? Are we living in 18th century now where monogamy is the only proof of love ? Well hello, grow up 😊 Physical relationship aint everything. I am not a fond of that kind of 'staying-in-a-marriage-but-loving-someone-else' thing either, but I don't disapprove of someone's honest effort in making the marriage work just because he is not there emotionally. Who knows if Komo was good enough, he won't move on emotionally too ? Love is not that one-dimensional always.


Anyways, not only storywise, the execution was also so nice. Using gun was not like a timepass stuff. There was no terrorist attack, unnecessary kidnappings, threatening, OTT drama in every 2 episodes. Mohini and Nivi's attitude towards Prerna matched with their perspective, it wasn't such blind OTT hatred where it's almost forcing to a point to make audience feel like it's Ram vs. Raavan thing.


So far what I have seen of KZK2, even the AP story is not built properly. I dont know what Prerna was fighting for, and why ? This is a meaningless crap love story so far. I dont know about the forum, but I bet if the story stays the same even after Bajaj's entry, KSG and Bajaj fans from previous show won't be happy either. So there you go, no fight, everyone can unite in bashing CVs for their sloppiest work. This remake is worse than RGV's Aag which was remake of Sholay ?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Ukgirl,


Ur right about not making it into a war zone. But let people have their own opinion about which season was better.


As of now, I think initially season 1 was better, season 2 was a let down from the get go.


If it had not been for the really good looking leads, no one would have given this show a chance.


Why does everyone say AnuPre are great, from what I see, this season AnuPre love is not at all balanced.


Prerna is a mess, just because she forgave Anurag at the drop of a hat doesn't make her love great, it makes her hurt trivial. That's what is looking like now, desperation. That's why I'm not watching the show now, bit you cannot force people to have a certain opinion.


I find u sensible enough to see the inconsistenties and lack of any story in this season. Anyways, it's ur opinion, but please don't ask what other people should or should not think.

Edited by mily_mathew - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bigbang_SHINee

KZK 1 was ahead of its time because they showed the taboo of being a single mother and that single mother getting past her hardships to do well in her career👏👏 Obviously there were lot bad things too like multiple marriages of Anurag and Prerna. In doing this whole reboot Ekta decided to get rid of the very positive thing I liked about the previous version 🤔 The only way they can redeem themselves right now is they better not rehash the number of leaps and marriages of the previous season.

Fingers crossed that bajaj’s track is done well

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Posted: 6 years ago
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As a fan of season 1 up until the point of prems death and a fan of the current leads, I'd like to put up a few point which I think may be more balanced because it's unfair to say kzk1 was a better show even upto this point.

Anurag in kzk 1 had no proper grounds for marrying komolika and ditching prerna. He simply gave in to his mother's pressures. What kind of a guy does that? And let's not pretend this was going with the norm of early 2000 coz in the same era we had a mihir who loved tulsi and married her, even though he knew his mother didn't approve. Whereas in kzk2 atleast the did try and put in some effort into building a proper reason for Anurag's betrayal

Disagree, disagree that kzk1 showed the taboo of being a single mom.. Prerna handed over her kid to her brother and pretended to be his aunt. That's heartbreaking and regressive.

Ofcourse anu 1 tried to move on with komo. A main reason being komo 1 was not so evil in the beginning. She was a gold digger.and anu truly marries her. No deal or any such thing. Whereas komo 2 was a murderer. Moreover anu made it clear to komo from the get go that the marriage was just a business deal. It can never gel with the sensitivities of people if anu tried to move on with her after she was responsible for murder of rajesh and Moloy.

Coming to the bad. I totally agree that kzk2 completely lost the plot after prerna made her entry into Basu House. I think the accidental marriage was a great twist but zero execution. The scenes between komo, prerna, nivi and mohini were worse than women in a fish market and real headache inducers. I feel as though the makers were thrown off by the fact that komo was going to leave by May and they just wanted to kill time till then without a proper story. I say it again, hina khan has been ektas biggest mistake in season 2 so far.

It will be interesting to see how the show fares with bajaajs entry. At the risk of ruffling many feathers I personally could never connect with bajaj and never accept that despite the crimes he did he was never really brought to task. It made me give up on the show after 8 year leap and I really hope we get a good story this time. Ksg is an ace and he can open a school to teach emoting with the eyes. Bring it on!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: mily_mathew

Ukgirl,


Ur right about not making it into a war zone. But let people have their own opinion about which season was better.


As of now, I think initially season 1 was better, season 2 was a let down from the get go.


If it had not been for the really good looking leads, no one would have given this show a chance.


Why does everyone say AnuPre are great, from what I see, this season AnuPre love is not at all balanced.


Prerna is a mess, just because she forgave Anurag at the drop of a hat doesn't make her love great, it makes her hurt trivial. That's what is looking like now, desperation. That's why I'm not watching the show now, bit you cannot force people to have a certain opinion.


I find u sensible enough to see the inconsistenties and lack of any story in this season. Anyways, it's ur opinion, but please don't ask what other people should or should not think.

Milly.....that is your opinion and I totally respect it but please don’t state it as a fact. What is wrong if some people still connect with AnuPre and feel they are great? What is the need to mock the entire fandom as some hormonal teenagers wanting only cheesy romance? All of us are free to express our opinions without mocking and bringing down others . I get that a lot of fans from s1 are excited about Bajaj and KSG’s entry. Please show your excitement without comparing and bringing down others.

This was not directed towards you .From whatever I have read you have mostly been respectful in expressing your opinions.

Edited by -Doppelganger- - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Doppelganger-

Milly.....that is your opinion and I totally respect it but please don’t state it as a fact. What is wrong if some people still connect with AnuPre and feel they are great? What is the need to mock the entire fandom as some hormonal teenagers wanting only cheesy romance? All of us are free to express our opinions without mocking and bringing down others . I get that a lot of fans from s1 are excited about Bajaj and KSG’s entry. Please show your excitement without comparing and bringing down others.

This was not directed towards you .From whatever I have read you have mostly been respectful in expressing your opinions.

Yeah, I have expresses it as an opinion, do you seriously think AnuPre is beyond improvement.


Geez, the writers have tonnes of work to do in case of AnuPre.


I was just telling her not to ask people to not be excited for bajaj.

Everyone comes with their own choices and priorities. I don't know what ticked you off here.


I'm not mocking fandom as hormonal teenagers, but all I find in AnuPre is hormonal teenage desperate stuff. And I find it preety audacious of the makers to call this an epic love saga, when it's anything but that.

There are plenty of love stories out there, which I have seen, whether it be hindi, malayalam or English. Kasautii does not hold a candle to any of that,in my opinion.


The day I see a little more self worth in Prerna and a little more guilt in Anurag rather than this moral righteousness and holier than thou attitude that they r using for him, I will be able to connect with AnuPre.


And where have I said I'm excited about ksg s entry, now isn't that assumption, I am not a regular follower of hindi shows, and I don't even know ksg enough to like or dislike him.

Edited by mily_mathew - 6 years ago

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