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Posted: 17 years ago
#21

Dee, here you go:

DMG is basically Sanjeevani Part 2...don't know if you watched that.

Angie is Anjali, and she's basically UD reincarnated as a woman, w/o the nicknames and...bling😕😆She's a hot but icy queen😉 Over @ the DMG forum we were discussing that MT should come on DMG as either regulkar docs or guest star patients, and someone suggested that UD (or an MB character at any rate) should be intro'd for Angie..while I am perenially attached to the UD-Shruti, Prem-Mukti and MT jodis😆😆 I figured it would be cool to see MB acting opp. Sunaina, even if its just for a guest spot😛

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Posted: 17 years ago
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😆 😆 Sounds interesting. I watched the old Sanjeevani, until it became all wierd anyway. Might give this show a shot. Who is the girl? She looks familiar.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Her name is Sunaina (Something 😕 ) I think she's pretty new; don't remember seeing her much before.

DMG is cool - its more focused on the lead couple Armaan-Ridhimma and while some (okay, most!) people enjoy that, I don't like them that much I'm much more interested in Angie and ATul, who is a sweetheart 😳

Angie is one of those morally complex characters that we both love so much 😳 😆 Fatty said that Angie is an "onion" 😆 😆 you just keep peeling and peeling and the layers just come right at ya 😆 sounds like a couple of other degenerates we know and love, right? 😉
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Posted: 17 years ago
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😆 Well I'm a sucka for the layers so might have to watch to see yet another screwed up person who I'm probably not supposed to like as much as I do 😕 😆

It's always the side characters who get to be interesting, the leads are always way too straight, and so boring. Bring on the grey.

Edit: I don't suppose you could rec a couple of eps to watch by any chance.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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I know - for some reason, in Indian shows, it seems to be a sin to have a leading character who is morally destitute, grey or at the very least complex 😕 its as if the lead can do no wrong, or if he or she DOES, then there is an ample and sufficient explanation for it. Tulsi murders someone? No problem - he had it coming. I find that really reductive There's so much more scope for character development and human pyschology in a character that's allowed and more than willing to make mistakes 😆 it's much more satisfying to watch than those leads who just harp on about long-lost ideals and who seem to be equivalent to God in every other characters' lives.

EDIT: You mean of DMG? I'm not at home so I rely on online vids as well,m but if you like I could PM you some to get you started with...I used to dl them but now I can't be bothered and just watch them online😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Exactly Vasu, and then they go round interfering in people's lives like it's their right. Who the heck makes them the moral authority in the world?

The thing which really really pisses me off though is when you have those self sacrificing, suffer in silence types, and the ones who insist on not telling people things (at the moment I'm not too happy with Paro). No one asks them to do that, if they have problems tell people don't just go "well their feeling will be hurt", people aren't that mean (unless they're evil, well dressed villainesses), they don't intentionally act out to hurt others (once again unless they're evil/insane etc).
Hee! I'm not sure where all that came from 😕

Yeah Vasu if you could PM me an ep list, I'll work my way through it.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: dee150

Exactly Vasu, and then they go round interfering in people's lives like it's their right. Who the heck makes them the moral authority in the world?

The thing which really really pisses me off though is when you have those self sacrificing, suffer in silence types, and the ones who insist on not telling people things (at the moment I'm not too happy with Paro). No one asks them to do that, if they have problems tell people don't just go "well their feeling will be hurt", people aren't that mean (unless they're evil, well dressed villainesses), they don't intentionally act out to hurt others (once again unless they're evil/insane etc).
Hee! I'm not sure where all that came from 😕

Yeah Vasu if you could PM me an ep list, I'll work my way through it.

I'm not too happy with Paro either, these days Who made her the judge of all that's good and fair? What right did she have to snap at Shruti & Chaya today? I happen to agree with them - Om is still their father/brother/son, no matter whether or not he has a new name. That's just ridiculous. And Paro knows his memory is coming back, so why not support that instead of repressing it? Come to think of it, why should she do ANYTHING? Fine, if she doesn't want to hurt Rish, I get it - stay away from Om and move on with your life (but she can't manage to do that either). But what's the need to be an active agent in all this? Why chase after Rish/Om and make sure that they avoid finding out the truth? If destiny wants Om to come to them, it will happen no matter what she does, and if it doesn't, then he won't, even if she stands still. As a big believer in destiny, Paro should stop trying to control it.

But even still, Paro is the one leading lady who is least likely to annoy me with her moral superiority (though often she does annoy me). At least, more often than not, she recognises her mistakes and tries to rectify them. But there are others that just don't seem to realise that they DO make mistakes, and that, because they are the "moral centres" of the stories they inhabit, their mistakes are monumental, and change the whole course of events.

Lol, I've just been working on an essay for Roman tragedy plays, and am doing a dissertation on Iago (Othello)😆 That's probably where all this stuff is coming from😆

Okay - I missed a few weeks of DMG myself, but will see if I can get you some good dates to start off with.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Hello people, how goes it??

I see I'm still being blamed for the UD/Angie idea 😆...Heyy, it can't be all bad if we follow Vasu's game plan, right? 😆

Vasu, Sunaina's last name is Gulla or Gulia 😆...not sure which exactly 😆 😆

and it was just too heartbreaking to watch Angie cry in today's epi 😭 😭 😭 Sunaina is such a brilliant actress!! 👏

Although, I see a ray of hope...someone said we'll be getting a lot more AA scenes coming up with Atul consoling Angie 😳 😳
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I agree about Paro definitely being the least annoying of the leading ladies (esp from the Big3) but her entire handling of the Om/Rish situation is awful for the simple reason that, as you said, it's not her decision. Yes she was his wife but he's still related to all the others, she can't make the choice for everyone. Not to mention, this is not something you can hide forever. Why not explain the situation in a controlled environment and let things happen? Hiding things always makes the situation worse when it comes out. I would have though Paro of all people would have learned this by now.

As for the others, well totally they suck, Tulsi in particular had a bad habit of wading into situations that were none of her business and making it worse (I have no idea if she still does since I don't watch), But honestly even if they are the "moral cente" (sounds like chocolate, gooey moral centre 😕), that doesn't give them teh right to make decision for others. Actually I find often they make terrble decisons, but because it comes from them it automatically becomes correct. Often the morally appropriate decisions don't work as well in practice. People need to be more flexible.

This is why I love my grey ones so much. They don't need to be right all the time because they don't have the answers. They're allowed to screw up.

Vasu at least you got an excuse for this 😕 I'm apparently just on a roll
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Posted: 17 years ago
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@Anu - lol, I suppose 😆 😆 I just wish that we would get such a scenario 😳 would be so much fun 😳

@Dee - 😆 😆

Yes, I agree with you that its absolutely not her decision, and she should know better by now. I wonder how she can so quickly have "un-learnt" what she realised as Janki but I suppose Om coming back has brought back that same dual-'personalitied' Paro - she wants him in her life, but for some reason can't see the truth or the situation rationally 😕

No idea about Tulsi or Prerna anymore since I watch neither, but of what we did watch, its fairly obvious that their "mistakes" are glossed over by giving them the name of "trying to do the right thing". The number of times that Tulsi has blackmailed people into marrying the wrong people, and not knowing/realising/caring that they are in love with someone else, is staggering. You can't make a "mistake" that many times and still expect it to be called a mistake. And you already know my views on Prerna 🤢the woman is a walking disaster - everything she touches turns putrid 🤢 At least Paro doesn't sicken me....yet

Yes, the grey characters are so much more fun to watch as well, simply because they are unpredictable. For that matter, even the straight-up, clear-cut villains are boring - their actions are so routine, so mundane. Chars like Pallavi, Angie, Shruti, UD and even Janki are unpredictable and that makes them exciting, but it also makes them human. But I suppose that's something specific to me in general - even in plays and novels, the supposed "villains" are my favourite - I loathe Othello (the man) with a passion, and for me the whole play is about Iago and his tragedy and his villainy, which isn't so clear cut. Similarly, I love Angel, because he has that duality that can sometimes bring out the evil in him (more obviously than with others 😆 )

I think Tina once said that she loved Shruti because her character went from pos to neg to grey as and when the track demanded, and she liked that unpredictability. I totally agree - there is a bit of villainy inside us all (except the goody-two-shoes leading ladies) and when that comes out, that's when things get interesting.

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