is AD stronger than JW or vice versa - Page 2

Originally posted by: ice_queen

oopsy pinky. dont mean to compartmentalize. I just thought a lot of JW haters and Bani supporters were supporting AD coz he made Durga "strong" (if that is a wrod). Just assumed. Oopsy and sowwie.

Yes and it's really sad that things have come to this point in the KS forum! I would like to not take any side. Just now Bani wants her children and is not in any mood for a relationship - the fact that she married 2 ment in one day shows the confused state of mind she is in!😆

Plus it was on this forum that I read that all JBians were bad to ADians and stuff. So I figured compartmentalizing is the name of the game.

No comments. I stay away from arguments and confrontations that are mentally exhausting and never ending and achieve nothing at the end of the day. To each his own!😕

I hate it that you bring up JW not supporting Bani against Pia and Jigs and yet not answer my question. Well I guess you faltered first 😕 .

OK - let me answer it then (sorry navs). Bani is in WM and has already started fighting her own battles. She got the better of Jigs and Pia and sat in the pooja by effectively calling pia a w****. Her battle has just begun. We have to now wati and watch how this cat-fight progresses and who gets the upper hand. My point was JW said nothing so he is not helping.

And considering the bond between kids and papa bear, i think Bani will be destroying them if she takes them away against their kids. And move in with you know who.

She does not have to move in with anybody. What values are the kids picking up from Papa Bear. He is content is letting his kids grow up thinking their mother is a psychotic murderer. He is OK with his kids watching their father getting married to their maasi when their mother is around. On the one hand he keeps telling the kids he is bringing their mother back to them on the other hand he is getting married to their maasi. These are going to be 2 very confused kids. And he is still not doing anything to free these kids from being used as pawns on a daily basis.

My take is that if AD has not made this indecent proposal, Pia would have made it using the custody papers as an excuse.

I would rather Bani get custody of the kids and let them have a wholesome, qualitative relationship with Papa Bear by giving him full visitation rights rather than the filthy and ugly atmosphere they are being brought up in right now. (I am sure you must have realized this is the mother in me talking.)😆

Queenie

(Navs - can I call you that. Sowwie I digressed, not by intent )

Originally posted by: pinky05

Navs sorry for digressing. Needed to respect Queenie's request and answer. Will try not to deviate.

I guess instead living with a man who blackmails using the life/freedom of their mother (same as Pia), endangers their own lives when it suits his purposes (sending slum dwellers to WM), bumps off a man on the road if it furthers his cause, lies, cheats, is obssesed and will eventually make their mothers life hell (for example when he starts suspecting her while she is dropping of her kids for those visitations with their father) is a much better and wholesome environment. Also given the character progression don't know how he will handle the fact that Bani does not love him but loves the children of the man he despises and might in heart of her heart still love that man. This I guess is a much better environment for the kids to grow up in.

Originally posted by: m3ghna

I guess instead living with a man who blackmails using the life/freedom of their mother (same as Pia), endangers their own lives when it suits his purposes (sending slum dwellers to WM), bumps off a man on the road if it furthers his cause, lies, cheats, is obssesed and will eventually make their mothers life hell (for example when he starts suspecting her while she is dropping of her kids for those visitations with their father) is a much better and wholesome environment. Also given the character progression don't know how he will handle the fact that Bani does not love him but loves the children of the man he despises and might in heart of her heart still love that man. This I guess is a much better environment for the kids to grow up in.

assuming we are back to topic discussing the strengths of AD and JW I shall continue

Agreed, papa bear has not cleared mama bears name yet but do the kids know of this? I doubt he is so crass to tell his toddlers that mama is a killer and hence away from them.

Also, given that the kids barely know their mama, except the lady who likes like her and gives them chocolates and bring the "other" krishna to school. But ok I will go with your point of papa bear marrying masi bear. But for kids who have known masi bear for 5 years as opposed to 5 days of mama bear would rarely care.

Now I would barely want to discuss if JW "would have" let his kids think mama is a killer or if pia "would have" made an indecent proposals. Just going by what I have seen (read actually 😆) kids think mama is all good and great and AD indeed did do the deed not Pia. So why judge on what could have happened. Does not make JW/Pia any badder or should I say AD any better.

Just a quick comment on filthy and ugly atmosphere -

I think Meghna (assuming thats the name) gave a good example of the environment mama bear wants to take kiddy bears to, per her kasam to MIL and AD pooh.

Icy (cold)😉

Originally posted by: fsam

Meg and Icy you said it. Imagine the kids living in fear while they see their mother trying to protect them, once bhoot does get psycho. They will be living in an enviroment of domestic violence. Which in my opinion is the worst enviroment there is.

But now we are back to square one. Isn't this another 'what if' scenario about bhoot (as u guys lovingly call him). He may be just using it to provoke and blackmail JW - we don't know for sure whether he will follow through.

Originally posted by: fsam

Meg and Icy you said it. Imagine the kids living in fear while they see their mother trying to protect them, once bhoot does get psycho. They will be living in an enviroment of domestic violence. Which in my opinion is the worst enviroment there is.

fsam...

arent you jumping to conclusions about AD.....

at this piont this man never did anything to harm the kids directly....

so what is making you say he will harm them.... Ad knows that the kids are bani's life....

he wouldn't touch them.... I would ratther call the envirment where the almight had exposed them too harmfull.... cause pia is a bigger psyco....then AD....and she would harm the kids without blinking her eyes......

Originally posted by: shali

fsam...

arent you jumping to conclusions about AD.....

at this piont this man never did anything to harm the kids directly....

so what is making you say he will harm them.... Ad knows that the kids are bani's life....

he wouldn't touch them.... I would ratther call the envirment where the almight had exposed them too harmfull.... cause pia is a bigger psyco....then AD....and she would harm the kids without blinking her eyes......

Well Pia kidnapped the children once,, AD kidnapped Atharva once, both for the purpose of scaring JW - AD kept him with Bani and Pia nice and snug with a nanny. AD sent enraged slums dwellers to WM knowing the children were inside and could be harmed. Both AD and Pia are using Bani's life and freedom as leverage to get their obssesion. I think a debate deciding who is the bigger pshyco would be a very intersting one.