Observations on 2/14

Pri,

I agree with all the points you made. Was proud of Bani for not going to see Pia. However, I feel yesterday was foreshadowing of what the creatives have in mind for us. I feel if Pushkar accepts the child as his than Pia is surely going to comeback to use the child to cause problems between JB and the J-P-B track will continue. They need to show nothing happened on that night for a clean slate beginning. What happened today is just pushing the inevitable till RC comes back from her honeymoon. Pia is never going to change as soon as she sees JB happy she will create havoc. Also this wasy the ONS saga continues. Enough already.

meghna

Great analysis of today's episode, Pri!! An interesting POV and perspective too!! It looks quite clean when the "pre-mature but healthy baby" part is erased out, like you did in your analysis😊

Originally posted by: majumdar

But yesterday he did something that really redeemed him a great deal- an acceptance of a child, which his evil wife has born out of wedlock. An act that requires real courage and humanity. Maybe JW had chosen a worthy foster son after all. This act may bring a rich reward to Pooch as one day he will find out that the child is actually his. He will be glad that he did not turn his back on his own kid. Btw, I think Pooch's thoughts of living one's mistakes etc. were all for the baby not for Pia.

Thats what I think too, Pri..Pooch was referring to the baby in his monologue about "humara koi rishta nahin.......we have to live one's mistakes..." part..hey when I think of that, one question pops in my mind, though..when he said "aaj humara koi rishta nahin..." are the Kreatives implying that Pushkar has collected the DNA reports and the baby is indeed not his? Or was it meant to be casual..like..assuming the baby not to be his, and the reports are unknown still..???

A crib: We are made privy to all of JW's thoughts about himself, Bani, the state of their relationship, adultery, guilt etc. but Bani's feelings on the subjects are not shared with us. But Bani did the sensible thing yesterday by refusing to see Pia and equally sensibly did corner the doctors when she thought Pia was being neglected.

May I say that you stole my thoughts!! 😊I was just thinking along the same lines, that they are showing all the emotions and thoughts from Jai's angle, but right from the ONS revelation till date, they have'nt shown what goes on in Bani's mind..

Rgds,

Priyanka

Pri, how come no comments on Raashi's pathetically ill-judgement about Abhilasha?? I'm sure it will be too late to stop the insanity by the time the family finds out about A's true colors..and Raashi wud've been gone by then I'm afraid and these ppl have to bhugto-fy everything..

I am disappointed with the show today..to think that everyone was dreaming about a typical Valentine's day episode around the same time yesterday, about how they would show J&B's eye-locking sessions, or which song they wud play, or who wud approach whom, or what wud each duffer say to the other...................uffff! fools, are'nt we all??

Asusual lovely observations Pri!
And as far as J-B is concerned, they need to start listening to their hearts and act accordingly and not keep their mouth shut and doesnt even try to reach each other 😡 ! I mean why are they not concentrating on J-B angle and what about the promo? I really liked that Bani didnt go and see Pia and she kept herself away from her sisterly love! But her concern is appreciated! And Saahil, less said the better! 😡

Originally posted by: majumdar

An emotional and eventful epi after three really boring epis. Although I will stop speculating about how pre-mature the kid is let the experts (MT/Oval) work it out. Essentially:

I am no expert on this Pri! But yes, being a Mother, I did feel utterly disgusted at the insensitive treatment of such an issue! What is KS trying to show to its viewers? Is it making a new medical statement of its own? Or is it trying to make a mockery out of viewer sensibilities? I have seen plenty of Premies in my circle of Family & Friends and let me tell you, it is probably the most painful sight in the World to see, a fragile, helpless and utterly small being lying in an Incubator, fighting for his life! Don't want to speak more on this issue, except that, I found it in very bad taste! (I really wish someone sues Ekta for showing such a gross misrepresentation of a Premie Baby!) Ekta and Balaji seem to have a grouse against Children, because there represenation of children (Both born and unborn) is indeed very pathetic.

A tale of three sisters: Two of them married to imperfect but in their own ways very wonderful human beings. One of them very undeservedly so. The third married to a perfect creep. Really felt sorry for Rano yesterday.

Couldn't have put it better! Pia got much more than what she deserved, Rano got much less than what she deserved and probably, Bani got just what she deserved!

And a tale of three fathers: One accepting someone else's child because it is an innocent human being, one rejecting his own child as it is imperfect. The third one turning his own back on one kid cos while unsure of whether he will be allowed to have a relation with the other one.

Once again, bang on point! Pushkar, for being Captain Courageous, it indeed takes a large Heart to accept someone else's child, especially if it was not accidental, but a mistake born out of deliberate, calculated manipulation. Hats off to him!👏

Saahil is too lowly to be even commented on!🤢

JW really, really let me down yesterday! Somehow, he killed an essential trait of his character by not acknowledging Pia's child...For whatever reasons of his own! Yes, we were all abusing him and hating him when he yelled, "Mera Baccha...Mera Baccha" but that atleast showed his sense of responsibility and caring for an innocent child. It doens't matter how the child was concieved, out of mistake or out of manipulation, the final line is that the child is question is not to be blamed and certainly not subjected to abandonment!

But yesterday, when JW chose to overlook the status and condition of his own child (The child is his, till proved otherwise) he really fell down in his own eyes! As Bani put it perfectly to Saahil, a Father who is heartless enough to turn himeself away from his own child will never be afraid of anything in the World, not even God's wrath!

Creepy Sahil: Just when you think that mankind has reached rock bottom, Sahil comes along and digs a deeper hole for himself. Rano risks her life to save his and how does he respond- by declaring her baby dead and giving it up for adoption. Thankfully Bani made a timely intervention and prevented the misdeed. Understood Bani's dilemma yesterday, if she speaks the truth Rano will be absolutely shattered, if she doesn't Rano spends her life with a monster. In any case she was never in favour of a R-S match and for once her instincts were correct. Love to blame Bani if anything goes wrong but at least in this mismatched marriage she is not at fault.

Yes, for once Bani was correct in judging Saahil's character and Rano's future when she had vehemently put her foot down to the Marriage! Sad for her to see a bright and deserving girl like Rano stuck in a rotten Marriage, but Sadder for Rano, who hasn't even seen the truth about her Husband yet.

Endearing Pooch: I have never been a great fan of Pooch. Not just for eloping with Pia from JW's mandap (which had it not been for PR could have been the best thing to happen to JW) but being generally unremorseful about his acts and constant unfaithfulness towards his ex-mentor. But yesterday he did something that really redeemed him a great deal- an acceptance of a child, which his evil wife has born out of wedlock. An act that requires real courage and humanity. Maybe JW had chosen a worthy foster son after all. This act may bring a rich reward to Pooch as one day he will find out that the child is actually his. He will be glad that he did not turn his back on his own kid. Btw, I think Pooch's thoughts of living one's mistakes etc. were all for the baby not for Pia.

As I said before, Hats off to Pushkar! Whatever his faults, he has always shown a magnamity of Heart and an indomitable Character. Be it accepting Pia with her faults and failings or be it accepting the illegitimate child of his wife and ex-mentor, when the child has been rendered Fatherless and Homeless!

Strange, like in Myth, even in KS, it was after all David who won the Final Battle over Goliath!

Won't comment on who's child is Pia carrying, but I think it is pretty clear by now!

J-B: Some philosophical comments from JW about how R-S in spite of being together with their kid had no love between them and how he and Bani in spite of being separated were still bonded by their love. Quite right. Bani still loves JW (whatever she may pretend to) and the message has gone across to JW. Maybe that will be the beginning of the healing process, high time either of the two made an attempt to reach out to the other. Have a feeling that JW is becoming a very peripheral figure. I wonder whether it is because of date/timing problems, or the storyline intends to focus on other couples for the time being or whether it is a long-term trend where JW will gradually become a complete recluse and loner.

I loved that whole dialouge about Jai being connected to Bani and Krishna through the bond of Love! And yes, whatever faults Amma might have, her love for JW has never been in question. Though as I said before, her Love is very Flawed, but is Love, nevertheless.

JW looks like a piece of Furniture these days, blending in perfectly with the Scenery, no one paying attention to him and he paying no attention to anybody! Quite a pathetic sight, considering he was Sun, Moon and the Stars for Bani and the rest of the Family till a few weeks back! Sorry to invite your wrath here girls, but maybe, just maybe, this is his payment for turning his back to his own child, when he was needed the most.

A crib: We are made privy to all of JW's thoughts about himself, Bani, the state of their relationship, adultery, guilt etc. but Bani's feelings on the subjects are not shared with us. But Bani did the sensible thing yesterday by refusing to see Pia and equally sensibly did corner the doctors when she thought Pia was being neglected.

Actually, the story has been taking a very JW POV turn since the PR Raaz came out! Earlier, we used to always crib, why we as a viewer are always privy to what Bani thinks of Jai and her relationships and JW's thoughts about everything are always in the Dark! Yes, it would be nice if they could show us what Bani also feels about the current situation and more importantly what she feels is the future for JW, herself and Little Krishna. I really liked Bani blasting the Nurse for Pia...Shows that she might have hardened her Heart because of all that happened to her, but essentially, her Soul will always remain pure and loving!😊

Rgds,

Priyanka

Feeling very let down by JW, Pri! Please offer a few words of solace

MT

MT/Pri,

I will offer the words of solace. I feel JW till he knew about the drugging felt himself responsible for the child no matter what it cost him i.e. bani. It would have been very easy for him to tell Pia to have an abortion than he and bani could have lived a Pi'a baby free life. However, he did not do that because he always knew the child was innocent and needed protecting hence running around at night getting medicine.

After he has found out about the drugging I feel he has disconnected. Before while he could not believe he had the ONS he was never able to remember what happened. Now he knows to a certain extent what happened. He has also seen the aftermaths of that ONS. He has been living with the guilt of it for months. He saw what happened to bani. He saw what was done to him by all the family members. He has also seen what Pia has turned into and the level of her deciet and destruction.

Now I feel he has so gone into hating the culprit like a rape victim that he cannot see beyond the destruction she has caused. I feel the reality of the baby has ceased to exit because of the level of deciet that Pia has employed. Pia has essentially blown his life to smithereens. His ability before of being able to differentialte between what Pia is doing and the innocence of the baby is lost.

We are right now in essense asking a rape victim why he is not concerned for the baby of that rape. I feel it will take time or he might never be able to accept the child.

Accepting nattu was diff - he was a product of a love affair.

Pushkar accepting the baby is also diff as it is not the product of a gross violation of his body.

WE have to accept that JW was grossly violated at the worst possible way and than made to go through hell for that for months by Pia. I feel he will have a very hard time looking past that.

cheers,
meghna

(Won't comment on who's child is Pia carrying, but I think it is pretty clear by now!)

MT are you implying that Pia's kid is indeed JW"s. Please say no! If this is the case, then JW will forever be in a dilemma as to which kid he wants to accept. He will never wholeheartedly accept Pia's kid and will culprit of ignoring his own child. He will be the most hypocritical character in the whole show. Even if JW wants to accept the responsibility of Pia's child, Pia will not let that happen, for she will use her child to emotionally blackmail JW and Bani.

I just hope the long forgotten DNA report surfaces and proves the child to be Pushkar's.

Emma

Originally posted by: m3ghna

MT/Pri,


WE have to accept that JW was grossly violated at the worst possible way and than made to go through hell for that for months by Pia. I feel he will have a very hard time looking past that.

cheers,
meghna

Meg,

As I mentioned in my post above, that it is not a question of 'How' the baby was conceived...My question is about the status of the Child????? Let us not forget, that even if JW was drugged and raped by Pia, those two people in question are Adults and very much capable of getting their life back on gear, but the child in question is, helpless, lonely and innocent of any fault committed by his Mother or Father in question!

And overall, the scenario looks as if JW decided to give up on Pia's child, was not such much because he got to know the real truth behind the Dubai ONS, but rather, the fact, that his own wife was now in the Family Way

I know that this is not the case and JW of all the people in the World is not such a shallow human being and also, he knows pretty well that Bani is not yet ready to let him have his rights as a Father over their child!

But the manner in which he coldly looked over Pia's child killed his character in some sort of way...As Pri put it a day or two before, JW has always set the highest and toughest standards for himself and has come true to them, even if it meant, subjecting himself to pain and grief!

And I personally felt that JW fell below those very standards that he had set for himself! He chose to give himself a chance to have his Family back (Which he undoubtedly deserves) than sideline himself from the rest of the World but be with the child who has no one else in the World (Won't count Pia as anything here)

If JW had decided to break Bani's heart furthermore by going inside Pia's room and enquiring about his child, he would have been lambasted as a Failed Husband once again by Billo & her Brigade, but JW would have come across as a Winning Human Being, for us viewers (Or for whoever subscribes to my POV!)

Sorry, if I sound so depressing and anti-JW todayAlso, this is strictly my POV and I still adore JW, only feeling let-down by him and his actions in yesterday's episode!

MT

PS: On another note, I think that JW's reaction's are very normal and typical of any man in his position! But the whole point is that JW has never been 'Just' another guy and hence, I guess, such 'Great Expectations' from his character!😊

MT u are right from yr POV! But, we also need to look at what he is going thru? I mean he is a normal human being after all, he has been cheated by that woman, how much ever u try to think that the baby is innocent, u cannot ignore the pain and hatred which u had to go thru because of this female's plan, he cannot overlook that fact that the baby's mother is a creep, who has not only cheated him, but also her own sister who has treated her like daughter! And I m sure that giving up on Pia's baby is not because Bani is pregnant! In future if its still not declared who the father is and JW has to choose in between these 2 kids, he will not be able to do so and will undergo a lot of pain and disgust about himself for this! And As I had told in my very old post, JW knows and believes that come what may, Pia can give all the comforts to her baby (not because she loves it more than herself or she is concerned), but to satisfy her ego and to show the world! And if he tries to accept the child, he knows that the mom will also come along (which is 101% sure)! And even legally too, he will not be able to take the baby in his custody and he has to end up taking care of the devil in this process!

Mt,

No you have a valid point. I made a post "very dissapointed in my munna" when he threw Pia out after finding out about the drugging.

But today I felt that he saw that Pia was in a hospital being taken care of by Pushkar and Karuna and so I did not see the need for him to go in and say mera baccha. He was observing from outside and that is more than a lot of people would do after what Pia has done. I don't see the need for him to go out of the way right now for the baby as there are people taking care of it. When the baby is born that would be a diff issue if he ignored the child. Or maybe if Pushkare decides to raise the child as his own than that is fine too. I feel so long the child is ensured a good life JW does not have to be personally responsible for raising the child.

Today if Pia had no one with her I might have been upset at munna. There were two mature adults taking care oof her in a hospital so I am glad that munna stayed away. I don't think he could have done anything more for them. We all have very high expectations of him but I think he is holding up ok.

meghna