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monika.goel thumbnail
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Posted: 19 years ago

Hello All!!

Many of you are already aware of the happenings in Kasam Se section. It's very sad to see this section being divided into groups. What's even sadder is that, everyone is just leaving.

We never wanted groups in first place and never had that intentions -But they were formed by members by making seperate posts of exclusively for them to discuss in that and rest evrybody was not taken into consideration-yes u are right i am talking abt Af thread-from there it all started and sadly it did hampered peace of our section-our parivvar-they were the part of our family/parivaar but they never felt that way as we never saw them in participating other activities at section-they themselves restrict themselves to that particular thread-

We saw and try and level best to have friendly and healthy atmosphere at section till there 4 part-we let them carry on with the thread there were some nice disscussions but we were under the impression the thread would be for all,however that wasnt the case.we had alot of complaints that members were ignored, and told to keep out .

now im sure you can understand regardless of any other forum our paarivaar was about togetherness menaing no ignoring no neglecting because me and khoo see the KS forum as our family and everyone is ONE big group and there are no differences each individual is acceepted for being who they are however the AF thread began to alienate people and be prjudice bagainst those who were not educated or part of the Af itself yes they later allowed others to join after pms advising them not to ignore membershowever me and khoo always wanted this paarivaar to stay equal and united but there is a limit regardless of their rudeness to myself and khoo ,we overlooked this warned them not to break rules for their own good-

This is just the reply for one comment-i am writting more and will try to give our viewpoint on all the comments-

Thanks for Reading it-

Monika and khoo

Edited by monika.goel - 19 years ago
Raaga_om thumbnail
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Posted: 19 years ago
Aha I see the prodigal daughters are back!!! Welcome back loves! Take your time and no shying away anuymore. Let's resolve everything once and for all.

Aha despo me feels in my bones that by the time KC happens, everything will be back to normal and you know what I really miss our mass drooling sessions!

Guys, you are awesome! I am proud to be a part of this lovely family!

-Raaga
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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: Raaga_om

"Confusion is a word we have invented for an order which is not yet understood"
- Henry Miller

Which geeky moron invented the word 'confusion'? Hai Eesh right now I am confused as hell!

What should my stand be or shouldn't be with respect to the matter at hand?

😕 Lovely emoticon this - this is how I'm looking right now!

Up till a few moments ago, I hadn't quit altogether but had decided not to post anything until something definite happened.


I read this awesome thread and realize Raaga monkey, you are only being a darn escapist - allowing bhejas to fry and probably in some kona of yourself, enjoying it too! Beast! But ah Princess, your thread did wonders and it obtained you exactly one blessing and one curse from me! One blessing for opening my eyes, one curse for opening my eyes and disturbing my drooling over my Munna - awww this guy only gets better by the day
Now before I talk further nonsense, I want to quickly applaud the efforts of the Dev Team. Princess, Minnie and Sree, you are awesome women and I wish I could boast of being at least half as mature, patient and sensible as you guys. Thank you very much for your dedication and taking the time out to explain things to us so the whole situation is in front of us and we can try and understand and if possible and willing to, can pitch in and help too, so that our KS parivar is back to normalcy. Thanks indeed.


Correct me if I am wrong but from what I have understood, Khoo and Monika have been entrusted with the responsibility of this section and they have been doing a great job. We owe them for maintaining the spirit of this forum. We are also indebted to each and every member of our Parivar for making this section one of the livliesta dn the best places to be on net. We are one huge family. But like it happens in all families, something happened and it is not new to anybody that Khoo Monika and the AF started having lot of issues. The twists and turns that the AF thread has undergone has not been suffered by even my Munna! I have no right to comment on whether what happened with that thread was right or wrong or wise or foolish because I was hibernating then, because at least one of the AFians is my thick pal and moreover, it is pointless anyway. But the bottom line was that the decision of the two who thought were responsible for this section was overruled and this happened more than once. Naturally it was taken as an insult and when you are insulted by a supposed outsider and that too in your own house whose almost every corner bears your name, you cannot pretend you are a mahatma and you are loving and enjoying every moment of it! After all Khoo and Monika are not Amma and thank god they are not!

It may be that I am wrong and some entirely different issue has angered them. And I think 'anger' is not an appropriate here. I think the two are more hurt than angry.


But two things are clear:


1. The AF is not to be blamed and I think it's very childish to hurl nasty vituperations their way and openly hint that they quit the forum. To quote Princess 'Quitting is no solution' especially when it was never the solution!


2. The members of the IF Dev team are not responsible either. Thanks Minnie for clarifying that you guys are not sitting idly with hand on hand and are making efforts to solve this totally unnecessary issue.
And I wish people will take the trouble of studying both sides of the coin before they jump to conclusions and lay the blame at one person's door. I nearly became guilty of this very same offence but thank God I found the right path at the right time. There is no point in quitting and shunning responsibility. We are mature and responsible people and even if we are not like I am not, because we are all after all different but one thing that is common to each of us that has been responsible for this Parivar for this bonding is that we all love each other, we love our Parivar, we can go to any extent to get it back on track.

And that's what each of us doing in his/her own way. In a way I am glad this happened. Don't kick me but like they say it is only in darkness that you understand the value of daylight and you actually understand the value of something you have taken for granted. I for one have taken this Parivar for granted. This was an escape world for me where at the click of a key I could be transported in to fairy land and I could lose myself and I had no choice but to give reign to the foolish child in me. This Parivar has been an eye opener in more ways than one. This place brought out the hidden 'me' and I found out so many things about myself that I didn't even realize existed. I made so many friends so any relationships. This was my utopia. We were all queens and nothing could wrong.

But one fine day I find my fairy world upside down and I realize the worth of this world I had taken for granted, the worth of the silent people slogging away to keep my fairyland in ace condition. I also see that in spite of the differences that separate us and make us individuals, we are all beads of the same necklace bound by the same thread.

We are the same people who were jumping up and down when the C scene happened. We are the same people who screamed through the roof when that cockroach brained Pia barged in to JB's private moments. We are the same people who unanimously agreed to say goodbye to KS if and when the JP angle happened.

We are the same people who pray like there is no tomorrow when any of our co parvarian is in any kind of trouble.

Today we are the same people standing together wishing our Parivar gets back to what it was. Agreed that the way in which we express ourselves is different but even today we are together and united in the goal to get back our perturbed family members back and get our family rocking again.

Had not this incident occurred, we would have gone on taking things for granted and the world could never have got to see our mutual love and unity. But we cannot help but feel sad that this unpleasant incident need not have taken place in the first place. But what's happened has happened. The trick is to stop blaming people and try and do away with threats or emotional black mail and try and help if you can.

The reason why I thought I will keep mum till things get back on track was because I believe in solidarity and not because it was a protest against the Dev team or any particular section or that I endorse the reasoning or pleas or behavior or statement of any person(s).
One thing I am violently against is forcing people to come back by what ever means. Like someone said here, give them time. They have not had an easy time either. I am sure Khoo and Monika and all those people who have left are as distressed and confused as we are. It would not have been an easy decision to tear themselves off from their family. So let's give them time for time is the greatest healer, isn't he?

In no time our friends will be back and we will be a rocking family once again for none of us are morons like our duffer couple that we will willingly kick our happiness and stay away from the place that means so much to us. So let's just leave it to time.

I would like to take this opportunity to thanks each and every member of the Dev team. I reckon many of you must be housewives working women busy students having your own busy life to handle. I think it's commendable that you guys take time out for us from your busy schedule and make this place so lovely. We owe you our family.

Thanks loves. And thank you to each and every member of my family. KS Parivar is what it is thanks to you! A huge hug to all you! I so love my family!

Khoo and Monika and to all of you who have abandoned us, if you are reading this, we beseech you to come back but after having shed all the bitterness all the unnecessary baggage. I am sure nothing was ever meant to intentionally offend you guys.

We love you and this place is not the same without you.
I am not going to make any post until my family is back because I just don't have the heart to post anything and pretend everything is normal when it is so not.

My dear loves, our KC scene is around the corner and how can we enjoy with this sword hanging above us?

We don't deserve this. You don't deserve this. What ever decision you take, please remember your family is lost without you!

Tact and subtlety have never been my strong point. My heart felt apologies if I have hurt any one with my words and/or sentiments.

Tomorrow is another day and I hope tomorrow is gong to be the best day for our Parivar! Amen

-Raaga

👏👏👏

All I can think of saying right now is:

Thank you !!

I wish and hope that we all can move on.......and make this place as beautiful as it always has been.......

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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: Raaga_om

Aha I see the prodigal daughters are back!!! Welcome back loves! Take your time and no shying away anuymore. Let's resolve everything once and for all.

Aha despo me feels in my bones that by the time KC happens, everything will be back to normal and you know what I really miss our mass drooling sessions!

Guys, you are awesome! I am proud to be a part of this lovely family!

-Raaga

hey ragga thanks for ur comments-we were not shying away-we ahve a family apart from ks family also so was busy in our routines this weekend so cud not reply to all comments but now here we are and yes we will surely try to give our views and will speak from our hearts what we felt of this whole thing-

cheers

Monika and khoo

Edited by monika.goel - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
ur rite...quitting is not the answer!
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Posted: 19 years ago
welcome back monika... good to see u here... and well for the matter of fact... whoever has the wrong concept that monika and khoo are trying to be calm.. then its wrong... they r here now to reply u back... its that mods are not ready to come up with a frnak answer.. soo .. mods we would appreciate if u can come up with the valid explanation...
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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: *shikha*

ur rite...quitting is not the answer!

Who says we are quitting IF but ya we wont be comfortable in taking the duties of viewbie at KS section for sure-

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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: monika.goel


Who says we are quitting IF but ya we wont be comfortable in taking the duties of viewbie at KS section for sure-


we know how u guyz feel but i don't see ks parivaar goin anywhere if we don't get out viewbies back - i mean u guyz as everythin like everyone said "are the pillars to our parivaar" with out u guyz ks parivaar is just not a parivaar
Edited by nyzbabigyal - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
raaga....we have been telling this to members that....quiting from our side from this place is totally our decission..we r not trying to provke any one in here...well u can think whatever u want to...but we have never ever tried to pull u guys from this forums...we didn't tell anybody to quit from here....well infact we dont want to...as princess said quting is not a solution ...modrs think that its their ego..but we r thinking its our selfrespect...soo both grroups has diff views...if those two peoples views never match then how could u expect a nice solution for that conflict..?

ragga u have written this..
Aha I see the prodigal daughters are back!!! Welcome back loves! Take your time and no shying away anuymore. Let's resolve everything once and for all.

could u explain me why u said monika as a prodigal daughters...its coz she couldn't manage to come online yesterday..and couldn't manage to reply all the pms...?..b4 comment on this have u ever think of that she has a family apart from this forums...its not that she will be sitting here for whole day just to wait for u guys and ur replys and for answer them...i m totally against on ur comments..it sounds really nasty...
Edited by Lima - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: sirigina



Dear Princess,

Thank you.

Look at it as a mere observer and keeping aside all differences, I do understand what you are saying.

I guess Princess, that the problem is in the way the whole matter was handled from both the ends that still leaves room for disagreement. I guess there is a smooth conclusion to this and that these guys who had been there in the forum since its beginning are back as without them this forum looses its sheen and polish.

As members, we only wish to help the mods bring back/pacify K & M and the rest and plead with them to work with you at resolving this issue.

Thank you,
Sarah

It was never about the AF members just the thread we let them carry on with the thread there were some nice discussions but we were under the impression the thread would be for all however that wasn't the case we had a lot of complaints that members were ignored, and told to keep out now I am sure you can understand regardless of any other forum our paarivaar was about togetherness meaning no ignoring no neglecting because me and khoo see the KS forum as our family and everyone is ONE big group

and not group within group and there are no differences:

each individual is acceepted for being who they

are however the AF thread began to alienate people and be prejudice against those who were not educated or part of the Af itself

yes they later allowed others to join:after pms advising them not to ignore members however me and khoo always wanted this paarivaar to stay equal and united but there is a limit regardless of theie rudeness to myself and khoo we overlooked this warned the m not to break rules for their own good.

Me and khoo have always run this forum according to each member and tried to take into consideration each and every member view- we were never unequal. But we got so many pms saying they were ignoring, using profanity, being rude and even sending pms to reduce siggies.I and khoo have never had so many pms to deal with complaining. But we thought allow them another chance but we found as was pointed out by many members that we are giving them chance after chance when all other members posts are closed and that we favouritised. After they insulted me publicly we had enough there was enough breaking rules but we overlooked this and left it in your hands. But there is a limit when they hurt our self respect and are rude to other members its serious, so we closed the thread they had been favouritised for far too long.

What hurt most was that instead of looking out and trying to sort out the fact we got insulted you reopened the thread. I and khoo were trying to explain what lies in everyone's best interest and I am sorry to say reopening the thread was not in everyone's interest .But you hurt us by reopening their thread and taking off the universal thread as a sticky, so many members were happy with that it was universal for everyone we wanted our family to be like it was back to normal so that it was one big family again.. We ourselves don't want anyone to leave it hurts us so much to watch our paarivaar fall apart because we helped to build this. Each and every one of you including the awesome foursome (regardless of how they treated us) is a part of this forum and we don't want anyone banned or to leave, we want everyone happy. We are here day in day out me and khoo monitor it and we know what the members want because they PM us asking for it we try our best to fulfilled their every requirements. Everyone who is saying that there is no problem with AF thread do you know what every member wants? Are you aware of how many members are scared to speak up? The answer is no because they don't PM you they PM telling us, so please don't assume we are against the members of AF thread we are just against the way they behave with other members, and as we run the forum its our job to make everyone happy and we do try our best, and this thread has caused a lot of issues to arise.

We suggested one universal thread for EVERYONE, we don't want there to be a division because it's ruining the flow of things and making it not a nice place for some to be in.

we will be replying to others comments also

Thanks

Monika and khoo

Edited by monika.goel - 19 years ago

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