The mind vs the Heart! - Thread - I need You! (Day 17); pg 28 - Page 18

Originally posted by: maankigeet4ever

reserved for Sunny

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Look who it is..I am here and so is Monday. And yes, Monday always serves a good setup for the rest of the week..and this week shall be a hard for Manik maltorta, one that will probably bring a lot of heartbreak for him but more on that later.

We start with the Navelis. Honestly, i loved Navya and her mother's scene too. It is no love parllel to the one that a parent shares with their child. They learn to love them before they even see them and after they do see them, they vow to protect and love them for the rest of their lives. Navya's mother surprised me, i hadn't expected her to be understanding but am so pleasantly surprised and touched to see her love shine above anything else: what the society might think, how could she disgrace the family this ? Nothing ! she just wants to make life better for her daughter, to take away the pain, the tears. She is willing to do anything. Navya's mother won my heart today. And you are right, she is probably staying around so the Cavya household shall be a fun one..lol

My Cabira: I never get tired of saying it. This man has a heart of gold. A wonderful friend everyone should have. From his worry for 'Stupid Navya' to his concern for his best friends, he has so much care for the people he loves. He and Manik are similar that way. I read somewhere that Cabir might realize what a difficult job Manik has had all his life, of caring for these best friends and for keeping Fab 5 together. Alya and Dhruv's relationship can and will eventually become a problem for Fab 5. Infact, it already has, Dhruv's attitude problem has alot to do with Alya and the relationship issues they have faced, and Dhruv's resentment towards Manik has been born from there. While we are at it, let's talk about the precap. Manik, oh Manik. He will get hit so hard tomorrow that i am so glad that Nandini will be there to hold him while he falls. Dhruv's bitterness will be vocalized tomorrow and he will be taken seriously this time ( he happens to be sober this time around). I am not really anxious about the secret but the fact that Dhruv has rubbed it in Manik's face and show the 'give and take' aspect of their relationship, where all the love and care Manik has been given was repaid by Dhruv keeping a secret, that's shallow, Dhruv, That's just really shallow and makes me sad that this, a person like you Manik loves like a brother...a person like you who Manik scarificed the most sacred and purest love he ever knew. I hope Dhruv can look himself in the mirror and recoginze the person he has come but i don't. He was a sweet lad who had a huge heart and sensitivity about him that the rest of his friends apparently lacked.

Onto our Manan now. Today proved once again how different Manik and Nandini are from each other..and how different they have had life and hence when they come together and see life from each other's perspective, it really boardens their own perspective. Manik, he has seen cruelty, he know how harsh life can be, how evil people can be so his gut feeling about Pandit is indeed right. But his Nandu, she is all naive and innocence. She has led a life where good things happen to good people and everyone has a pure heart. While she has learned over time, that isn't the case, it doesn't stop her from believing in the goodness of people and the world. That's why she can't see Pandit and his evil intentions because for her a guru and student's relationship is pure. In her ideal world, yes that certain relationship should be pure and Nandini has no reason to doubt that. But she trusts Manik. she believes Manik and that's why they show her thinking about what Manik has said. And now she wondering, was Manik right ? Shows she regards him and his opinion.

And contrast that to Manik thinking from Nandini's POV. He knows it. The Pandit, he is not a good man but he tries to go against his own thinking..he tries so desperately to think like his Nandu who only sees the good in the world..as he paces in worry and anxiety for her class to finish, he wants to believe Nandini because he needs her safe. His anxiety today at not being present in the music room keeping a watchful eye on Pandit was just eating at him. Manik Maltorta, all his life he has protected those he loves...but he couldn't do his job, he couldn't protect the person he loves the most.

Coming to their supposedly hope vs.hatred battle going on. I loved how Nandini just wanted to calm Manik down as the episode opened. I say so often: she is his calm in the noise and chaos of life. So when she sits him down, hovers over keeping a hand on his shoulder, and listening to her soothing, reasoning voice. He does calm down. Yes, he is still agitated and edgy, but he doesn't lash out, doesn't throw things. That's the change Nandini has brought. That's why so many people were surprised at the return of an aggressive Manik Maltorta on Friday because nandini has changed him. Yes, he does still get angry and lash out as we saw on friday but he doesn't do as often. A big, positive development for me.

He is all heart when he going off about them not being able to perform together..because he wants her hope to win..her hope, his hope, their hope has to win until the mind clicks in. Then he realizes he isn't suppose to be rooting for her hope, rather his hatred needs to win and even as he walked away with a point, i knew his heart would make a stellar comeback and it does ! His hand reaches out and stops her. And that look ! that look he gives her, pure love and agony all wrapped in one damn look..my beautiful moment right there. He doesn't want to let her walk away towards danger, he can't ! he can't let her go where he can't protect her. But his girl, she has so much faith and confidence in him, she loosens the grip but not before she reassures him : I have faith in you. I know that you will find a way to protect me again. i know you will part of the fusion concert again so our hope can win.

Okies..seems like my thoughts are all out there. Lovely as always my dear,

Originally posted by: Kapk

I have been a silent reader of all your posts on this thread but I had to comment today. You are a gifted writer OMG. The Way you took us through the emotional war that Manik Went through tonight - hats off. It couldnt have been described in a better Way. I am so thankfull to you that you take out your time to write all this Down and then share it with the rest of us.

Have you started other threads previously where you analyzed each episode this Way? I would love to read it :)

Originally posted by: anotheranfan

as you rightly pointed out todays scene is one my few best scenes of navya ever as a character.. Her equation with her mother.. Wow.. We had seen something similar in Cabir and his mom's relation too early on.. But it didnt work out after he came out of the closet.. But not all moms are same and not all kids are same.. See this mom.. She was hurt, angry and most of all worried about what others think (because believe it or not we have to face others everyday) So the instant reaction on the news was as expected.. But as you said Navya's tears said it all.. Her mom is ready to face the world for her daughter.. she is ready with different solutions that she can think of.. But most of all what i liked was her trust on daughter when she told that the father wont take responsibility nor would marry her.. So as cliche as it was the way her mom found out i really loved how this whole scene played out.. It had touch of reality and believability which as i said in my earlier post i sometimes face especially with navya.. So this was pleasant surprise.. Loved this scene. But unlike you this wasnt my most fav scene of the episode 😉 Manan scene won by huge margin which i will get to but will talk about fab5 first.

@bold on cabira section - i dont think cavya are there yet.. They are still at nascent stage in their friendshp.. Yes it would be a stronger bond bound by hurt, pain, loss of love, betrayal, rejection as you said, but i think there is still some time for it mold stronger and very long time for them to realise it.. As of now, Cabir's concern for Navya is mainly out of guilt and fear of kids and having her around.. While Navya's i guess is from her soon to be found motherhood and sense of being the lady of the house for the first time... it would take few more shocks, incidences and days before their routine will become their need.. They will crave for each others company because it can fill the emptiness brought on by their respective lovers, families..

@ bold on Navya's mom.. I am thinking, she doesnt yet know that cabir stays in same house.. It would be entertaining to see how she finds out and reacts.. I cant predict what her reaction would be.. Would she scold cabir for not accepting baby thinking that he is father and cabir's reply to that would be surely laugh riot.. atleast i hope it is.. Dont want any serious drama there.. navya's mom is too cool for this cliched dramas 😆

@ mukti's call that you dont have in the post-- i am not sure if she has read the letter or not.. My optimistic hope says she hasnt and hence she is hurt and trying to go back to her old ways.. But again for few seconds not much to say there.. Lets see whats going on there hopefully sometime soon..

Now coming to favorite scenes

I really liked how nandini tries to calm maanik down but maanik being maanik scared for nandini's safety cant get over the fact that panditji is trying to take him off the concert... Liked how nandini tried to tell him that they were at wrong there.. They were in position that is appropriate only on our screens 😉 surely not in the class.. So panditji seeing them and thinking it was maanik who troubled her isnt creepy as such.. I would like to think that way atleast till proven otherwise 😆 Esp given maanik has tendency to get her in trouble all the time which panditji has witnessed 😊 And our maanik's mind might have got one point for coming up that pretense line of being glad that he is not in the concert anymore but his heart has got atleast 1/2 point for all the anger he showed when panditji left.. So Nandini no need to be that disheartened. 😊

I like what you said about niyo... The whole trying to instigate maanik against panditji and increasing his doubts -well the games that niyo knows how to play.. Btw kishwar plays niyo amazingly well.. The attitude, the class.. the smartness.. the confidence.. each line is full of those emotions... Isnt this whole doubt even during holi event started by her game plans only.. Maanik is getting the dose that nandini got when he was not suppose to talk to her for a day.. But luckily for maanik, nandini is here this time.. She is being his mind and asking him to think carefully.. asking him to trust that teacher - student relation so pure that it cannot be tinted like that.. She making him aware of how niyo plays with the minds.. She doesnt know that.. but she is doing and her mind is winning over his mind... his heart and her heart... He is atleast able to think that he may be wrong in thinking that panditji has different agenda than seeing nandini flourish in her music.. And i like that .. Because till this day he just didnt see this side at all.. From nandini's side also she is thinking about what maanik said when panditji talks about world tour, touches her hand accidentally.. I think what i like in this is that they both are considering each others emotions.. and thoughts as valid.. Otherwise they both are so stubborn to even consider that they can be wrong and other person right.. So this is something new in their relation that was missing earli during soha track, during navya's school return protest arranged by nandini... So see they are already on path to build stronger relation this time.. So this has to be my favorite episode in days.. offcourse hugs/missed kisses and holi fun are good but this one adds another level to their love.. As you said its building foundation day 😊

Precap - i am going to hold on thoughts on that one.. I want to see how maanik reacts.. I really see furture in this track.. Exactly what nandini always feared.. Will maanik chose to give up the concert for dhruv or he will chose nandini this time.. Lets see if our boy has learnt any lessons.. But lessons learnt or not he is going to need to vent out frustration, pain, hurt he is going to see and who is better for the task than our nandu.. and she is there through this scene.. yey..😊

Originally posted by: anotheranfan

Btw i forgot to mention in earlier post, i dont see panditji looking at her with delight today or accidently touching her hand wierd at all.. as i say that touch was accidental and i would like to believe the smile was for the music she was playing.. The happiness that guru gets when his shishya excels... So except holi (the looks and remembering was creepy for sure that day atleast i remember feeling it that way then, havent watched it again since) i havent seen him tending towards creepiness yet.. Yes i am still being optimistic here.. I want pure student teacher relation that even nandu believes in

Originally posted by: twinkle10

I'm still in utter delight about the accepting and understanding persona of navya's mother. Hats off to the CV's for thinking out of the box for this situation. And then there's us. Used to so much declination and dejection in ky2, we had it all planned out that Navya was going to be disowned like Cabir too. But glad the story isn't heading that way. Perhaps this could also mean that since mother naveli will be living in the house for sometime I guess... will she shower our cabira with the missing motherly affection and care in his life too? Obviously it won't be shown straight away... but it is a possibility I guess.

Originally posted by: maankigeet4ever

an early res..not allowed i know but let's make an exception this time around..Just for the sake of my sanity..lol

i love you forever my twinkie bear

-Reya aka Your Sunny <3

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Fudge Fudge fudge..fish sauce fish sauce..Damn...i typed like more than half my response and i hit the back space to fix something and BAAM !!! my words are gone...like i cannot explain how pissed i am. This response i genuinely struggled with. When i emotionally connect with a character...i just feel the emotions..i couldn't find the right words today...and i seriously struggled and now it's all gone. damn :( here goes attempt 2

Okies..i am here and first and foremost, please take a damn bow. This was not just your usual amazing but this...this is probably your best analysis yet. Honestly, i wanted to bold the entire analysis today. The episode was really a emotional one and your words...they just took me back to the heartbreak..like damn ! like i was re-experiencing the entire heartbreak all over again. Oh the emotions.

I actually like to start with Mukti. I was somewhat mentally prepared for Manik's heartbreak but Mukti, it ached my heart to see the old Mukti back, trying so desperately to conceal her broken heart. The dark, black makeup, the hookups, the alcohol, that's isn't Mukti anymore and you can tell how broken she is now. The biggest smiles hidden the saddest stories they say and Mutki is reverting to old self in a failed attempt to forget the man who broke her heart when he was the one to heal her, to teach her all about life. Abhi, truly disappointed in him. He shouldn't let her come close if he wanted to walk away while he is much alive. Mukti already has abandonment issues, and Mukti has reenforced her beliefs: everyone she loves will walk away from her. Abhi had given wise advice to Nandu at the hospital, to not waste time playing games and unfortunately he didn't go by his words. In a way, he is playing a game, playing with the emotions of his girl's heart. Sighs..i want to go on but honestly, i can't because i will get emotional for Mukti all over again. I connect with her character, while half the time i don't agree with the way she treats Nandini or Manan's relationship, i have hope for her character..and today i connected with Mukti's heartbreak and wanted to punch Abhi in the face for bringing the old Mukti back, the old Mukti with a new heartbreak, one that will leave the most damage.

Dhruv..he lay it out all out today...that too selfishly. He already knew that Mukti needed Fab 5 today, she needed her friends..her family to take her broken soul but even then, he pulled a selfish move and lash out at Manik today. The resentment and bitterness has been building up for so long now, that in a way i am glad he let it all today. Manik, he needed to stop living in the illusion what he thought their relationship still is. Alya has created a bitter man, she tried to redeem herself today, confessing her love in front of Fab5 in hopes of saving their relationship but a tad too late Miss. Mini Dress. She is giving Dhruv what he no onger cares for, she had a hand in creating this new Dhruv, one has gone too far, almost a point of no return. He stood there, stating the 'facts', lashing out bitter words that sliced through his best friend's heart. And the give and take ! he pulled a Nyionka and that hurt Manik so bad..that Dhruv gave a price to his years of love and friendship a price tag in exchanging of keeping a secret..or so generously giving Alya up to Manik, how shallow Dhruv, how bloody shallow. Manik's heart, which only knows how to give love, to protect the ones he loves. Dhruv, he is very much a part of Manik's existence..he has a corner in Manik's heart but he so easily broke that same heart he resides in. Dhruv blinded by his bitterness and resentment butchered single handedly butchered the sacred relationship of friendship and brotherhood, inflicted permeant damage to it

Manik. First i have to applaud Parth for his stellar performance today. Everyone acted wonderfully today but Parth, that man, he stole the show today. He was just in a state of shock today. What ? What was his best friend saying ? Where ? Where is all of this coming from ? How ? How could his best friend say all the things he did ? He simply fathom how he best friend, his buddy, could feel this bitterness, this resentment, this hatred towards him. The boy he grew up, the one friend he found his initial years of love and solace and happiness with. The guy who he found his love for music with. All gone. He lost so much today..lost the most beautiful thing...lost the happiest part of his childhood, lost the reason for why he loves stars, lost the reason for his heart to always protect and love, lost his buddy.

Everyone eventually walks away. Fab 5 are always there when they need each other but today, Dhruv's words divided them all. They all walked off...to nurse a heartbreak, to save a friend, to end a relationship..and how easily they left the stunned, broken boy there. Today, i saw a broken lost soul, saw a picture of how he grew up..All Alone ! He takes care of everyone, all the freaking time and the one time he is about to fall...his friends aren't there for him like he is for them but he isn't alone. His shining star silently stood there, tears being shed watching him suffer.. She watched his heartbreak knowing he would need her, knowing she would need to find a way to ease his pain, to share his sorrow.

He is use to being alone..to fighting in the darkness alone that his natural reflex is fight ! to fight the help she wants to give. He isn't use to it, someone caring for him. He wants to be alone in his misery, to lash out when he finally registers the words that have been spoken and forever imprinted in his memory. When the pain hits, he wants to be alone. Anger is his only constant emotion..even as his heart is broken, he just wants to feel angry. He doesn't want to need her, he wants to need no one ! " I don't need you" I say, even in pain, they are companions. And today Nandini truly was his companion, refusing to leave him. Despite his denial, she knows just much he needs her. She rather that he lets it all out, she can bear all his anger, he can throw things around but this stoic, silent Manik, she can't bear it. She wants to hold him when he falls. And his heart...he needs her..it cries out "I need you.". His sorrow will shed in his tears tomorrow and he needs her more than ever.

Oh God, honestly speaking, the precap already brought tears to my eyes. Tomorrow, Manik Maltorta is going to fall to his knees in utter defeat and for once he doesn't have to be alone. She will gather her in his petite arms and become his strength...she promised when he would be too weak to go on, she would become his strength.

Okies..i think i am done..i am never happy with a attempt 2 but here it is.. You were fab today as you shall tomorrow..i can't wait for tomorrow analysis.

With love as always,

- Reya aka Your Sunny <3