Is this really a Trust Test?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Manik viewed Nandini as:

His shining star: She showed him the way when he was lost. She always clarified things for him when he was confused, especially if it related to human relationships. She was able to see the goodness in him even when he himself could not do so. She showed him that being good need not be equated with being weak or vulnerable.

His protector: She protected him from himself. She controlled his violent streak. She was his conscience keeper, fearlessly pulling him up when he erred. If as a star she revealed the goodness in him, as his protector she purified his soul, making him a better person.

Now on that fateful night of Soha's death, Nandini, Manik's shining star and protector was unconscious. In other words, the girl who could have reasoned with him and curbed his rage was not in her senses. So how could she have been sure of the way Manik would have reacted to Soha's madness? Yes, he told her that he changes when he is with her, that she calms him down but then she wasn't 'consciously' present to guide him or curb him. In fact, her life was at stake because of Soha. There is no knowing for sure how he would have reacted at the thought of losing the one person who mattered the most in his life.

Even then her first thought was that he is incapable of killing anyone, let alone Soha, despite his friend's apprehensions that he could have. It is only after she saw the footage did she believe that he could have 'accidentally' and not 'impulsively' or 'deliberately' killed her. Is this really then a test of trust? I don't think so.


Did she believe that Manik is a murderer? No. Did she believe that Manik could have deliberately harmed Soha for daring to harm Nandini? No. The old Nandu would have, the one who had believed he had sent the goons against her or that he had tried to kill Harshad for harming Cabir because she did not know or understand Manik well at the time. The new Nandu, the one who has seen umpteen instances of Manik's goodness and change of heart would never think Manik would deliberately harm another human being but then she could not fully rule out Manik's hand (unintentional as it may be) in Soha's death.


So how then can this be seen as a test of her trust in Manik? If Manik had said he had no role to play in Soha's death and she contested it, then he could have been furious with her for not trusting him. That was n't the case was it? So why was Manik behaving so unreasonably with her?

This is where expectations come into play. Manik was so confident that Nandini will defend him stoically, even if she was unconscious throughout the incident and her ambiguous comment threw him off guard. As if to add salt to the wound, the woman whom he detests the most ended up setting him free. So when expectations are high, disappointments are also bound to be high. He was expecting to confess his love and celebrate his first valentine with his girl and ends up being 'betrayed' her. So his anger and frustration is understandable but to stretch it to a trust test which he deems she has failed and 'hate' her for it does seem to be too extreme. Manik needs to hear the voice of reason - read Cabir - soon.



They can stretch the reconciliation and reunion if they want by bringing in factors such as the new teacher or the new student into Manan's equation but this particular misunderstanding is too flimsy to stretch for weeks.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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the only promise manick asked from his shinning star was to always trust him.
but then he went ahead to gift away nandu to dhruv nandini's consent didn't
matter after all he just broke his heart and she was supposed to forget him
easily and find solace in dhruv love is so easy just like you change into a new dress 🤢
she could not see through his deceit and went on to hate him how typical 🥱

comes the next phase she walked back in his arms but not with that intact trust level
so who was she deceiving manick or herself?either you trust completely or
you don't but when you stagger between the two extreme junctions of half faith
and half mistrust should you plunge in that relationship ?no there is no halfway
there is no midway nandu should not have rushed back when mentally she was
not ready her unconscious conscience still had doubt lingering .


she knew by now that manick could have killed harshad for hurting cabir but he
had enough self control.so how can manick fail on restraining himself from killing
soha?even if he did it was for nandini.so instead of nandini telling may be
i don't know i am confused had she just said manick did nothing i am responsible
for everything that happened it would have been more acceptable.

yes i do agree though that cvs are showing manick over reacting to nandu as had
i been manick i would have said to myself look its not nandu who failed me but i had
failed her once and i have failed to restore her complete faith in me and now
i shall do the same and earn back her full confidence in me instead of hulking sulking

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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Opti
That's what I have said in another forum that this excuse is very flimsy to stretch it for weeks and for the roar of despair, darkness and broken faith.

If they don't address this issue which is haunting and hurting Manik immediately by any one be it Cabir or Navya as I don't expect any one else to say anything. They will loose the track some where.

They are supposed to talk it out and Manik is not an idiot here.

He needs to understand that it's his actions alone which has fueled the doubts created by Niyonika.

I don't know where they are leading to but kuch jaada hi gyan ho gaya yahan.

In love you don't expect any thing and here Manik is expecting blind faith from Nandini.

They need to redefine the definition of Love or may Be In today's practical world it has changed. I thought KY2 was about practical matters in life



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyanka3677

@Opti

That's what I have said in another forum that this excuse is very flimsy to stretch it for weeks and for the roar of despair, darkness and broken faith.

If they don't address this issue which is haunting and hurting Manik immediately by any one be it Cabir or Navya as I don't expect any one else to say anything. They will loose the track some where.

They are supposed to talk it out and Manik is not an idiot here.

He needs to understand that it's his actions alone which has fueled the doubts created by Niyonika.

I don't know where they are leading to but kuch jaada hi gyan ho gaya yahan.

In love you don't expect any thing and here Manik is expecting blind faith from Nandini.

They need to redefine the definition of Love or may Be In today's practical world it has changed. I thought KY2 was about practical matters in life



Yes, Priyanka. the reason for their breakup this time is very flimsy that at best it can last for a week at the most, till the temperatures cool down but there is no complete break down of faith or trust here to stretch it beyond that. Nandini has and will always trust him. Ironically it is this trust that he will do anything to save her that has thrown up the possibility that he may have pushed Soha unintentionally to her death. It is another thing that his push did not result in her death but it could well have, couldn't it? Manik never checked back to see whether she was alright after that. In fact he couldn't care less what happened in the store room after he left.


If anything Manik acted foolishly by letting Nyon talk him into hiding himself for 24 hours. Does he not know that if Soha is dead and he is being suspected of killing her, he needs to show himself up and not go absconding? His failure to stand up to his cunning mother is now taking a toll on his relationship with Nandini. He knows his mother better than Nandu does. Even he got manipulated by that witch. Is it rocket science to figure out how Nandu could have been manipulated by her? By breaking up with Nandu, he is playing right into her hands.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The definition of trust doesn't change to suit the situation and neither does it's significance as the foundation of any relationship.
If the situation were to be reversed, Manik would have had to walk through fire to prove his trust 😆 so yes it's a trust test.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hello my dear Maaneetian n MaNan shipper...
Missed ur post n was wondering y u didn't post anything in this imp track which is going on...loved ur posts always dear ... Be it in Ghsp forum or here... Hugsss.

Okay now coming to the post...absolutely agree with u.
Here Manik is exaggerating the whole situation...I knw he is hurt...bt he should understand tht Nandu was Unconcious n wht he expect her to say...to lie.
Nandu said she don't knw which is the truth...guess her saying I'm not sure has lead to the whole situation.
Manik didn't think n ponder abt the whole scenario...rather he being in his usual impulsive mode...raised the TRUST issue...
I knw a third person is required to make him understand...but he too needs to get tht in his mind tht a realationship works only when two individuals r given equal importance...but in MaNan relationship...Manik always wants to have the upper hand in taking dissisions ...
Phew...enough now...of my blabbering...lol

Bt how's gonna stop Nandu from being expelled?...let's c...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: maanluvsgeet

Hello my dear Maaneetian n MaNan shipper...

Missed ur post n was wondering y u didn't post anything in this imp track which is going on...loved ur posts always dear ... Be it in Ghsp forum or here... Hugsss.

Okay now coming to the post...absolutely agree with u.
Here Manik is exaggerating the whole situation...I knw he is hurt...bt he should understand tht Nandu was Unconcious n wht he expect her to say...to lie.
Nandu said she don't knw which is the truth...guess her saying I'm not sure has lead to the whole situation.
Manik didn't think n ponder abt the whole scenario...rather he being in his usual impulsive mode...raised the TRUST issue...
I knw a third person is required to make him understand...but he too needs to get tht in his mind tht a realationship works only when two individuals r given equal importance...but in MaNan relationship...Manik always wants to have the upper hand in taking dissisions ...
Phew...enough now...of my blabbering...lol

Bt how's gonna stop Nandu from being expelled?...let's c...


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: I...

the only promise manick asked from his shinning star was to always trust him.
but then he went ahead to gift away nandu to dhruv nandini's consent didn't
matter after all he just broke his heart and she was supposed to forget him
easily and find solace in dhruv love is so easy just like you change into a new dress 🤢
she could not see through his deceit and went on to hate him how typical 🥱

I don't know what you are trying to convey here. If he asks her to trust him and then surrenders her to his friend, how is she to trust him? Especially when he told her that he was merely taking revenge for her slaps? Even then it was she who saw through his lies. He never came clean. If anything that track was about Manik's lack of trust in her judgment to find a solution to Dhruv.

comes the next phase she walked back in his arms but not with that intact trust level
so who was she deceiving manick or herself?either you trust completely or
you don't but when you stagger between the two extreme junctions of half faith
and half mistrust should you plunge in that relationship ?no there is no halfway
there is no midway nandu should not have rushed back when mentally she was
not ready her unconscious conscience still had doubt lingering .

She did not lack trust in Manik. In fact she knew what she was getting herself into. She was willing to let Manik chose Fab5 over her always, not because he did not love her as much but because they needed him more. She was willing to be his protector, compromising on her own happiness if it meant he would be happy.


she knew by now that manick could have killed harshad for hurting cabir but he
had enough self control.so how can manick fail on restraining himself from killing
soha?even if he did it was for nandini.so instead of nandini telling may be
i don't know i am confused had she just said manick did nothing i am responsible
for everything that happened it would have been more acceptable.

She never thought Manik could kill anyone, let alone Soha but she could not rule out Manik accidentally killing her when he pushed her. So here it is not about his ability to restrain himself but an accidental push in self defense could have been fatal. Why would she say she is responsible for everything when she was unconscious at the time?


yes i do agree though that cvs are showing manick over reacting to nandu as had
i been manick i would have said to myself look its not nandu who failed me but i had
failed her once and i have failed to restore her complete faith in me and now
i shall do the same and earn back her full confidence in me instead of hulking sulking

This is not about faith at all, as I see it. Nandu has faith in Manik and trusts him. If Manik had told her that he had nothing to do with Soha's death she would have believed it blindly, with or without the video footage but she never got around to asking him that, did she?.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonia_1

The definition of trust doesn't change to suit the situation and neither does it's significance as the foundation of any relationship.
If the situation were to be reversed, Manik would have had to walk through fire to prove his trust 😆 so yes it's a trust test.


Nandu has never exhibited any violent streak, so Manik's reaction to the situation being reversed is not comparable with this one.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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All the problems in their relationship including the whole Dhruv situation is due to a lack of communication between them when necessary. Manik should have atleast told her about what happened in the store him instead of Nandini having to reconstruct the event herself without relying on Neyonika's video. Maybe then doubts wouldn't have arrived.
I do believe that Manik is being unreasonable with Nandini, to give her the cold shoulder for a few days is understandable but to jump to the conclusion that you hate her is very unreasonable to me. Nandini simply stated the truth, she was unconscious so she doesn't know if he killed Soha or not. I agree with you, that Manik had too much of a high expectation that Nandini protect him by stating that he didn't kill her hence he felt betrayed even further when that expectation wasn't met. He needs to understand that complete blind trust is not healthy for any relationship. Trust can be relative to a situation. He also needs to understand, that Nandini raising her doubts was not because she thought the Monster within him returned and reacted impulsively towards Soha but that she knows how much goodness and love he has for her which maybe drove him to unintentionally kill her in order to protect his shining star

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