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Posted: 10 years ago
#11
👏😊
Love the way you justify the reason behind their every action...

The situation was so tactfully constructed, that their every weakness and every small thread of doubt was put to test. They may have fallen in love with each other and may do anything or each other but they still have a long way to go...

But still wish that the separation was not because of lack of trust in each other... Its like the very foundation of their relation is shattered. Trust was their definition of love.

This will one roller-coaster for them, both physically and emotionally!!!

Looking forward to this angst filled journey ( have restocked my chocolates too!!! 😛 )
Edited by moonstonespirit - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nandini discovered the goodness in manik the day manik saved her brother. She knew his monsterous face was a facade he chose to show the world. He himself confessed in soha,s farmhouse with her. She has had so many occassions to know him reasonably well. and moreover who in their mind will chose to dillydally on such a crucial time when you are giving a statement in front of the magistrate which could mean jail or bail??
She had seen the video where manik was seen to have nudged soha only to save nandini. That was more than sufficient for her to speak in his favour. NO! she choses to dig deep n act dumb at the most crucial time. Anyone anyone including a saintly person can harm another person to save oneself or their luvd ones, thats called self defense. So even if manik was seen pushing soha aside it was a clear case of defensive act.
The CVs have messed up totally, nandini has chosen the worst day possible to display her honesty. If she coulld have saved someone by her statement then there was somethg to defend her, according to her soha is dead n manik is on the verge of being rejected a bail based on her statement yet? what has she achieved here by doubting manik in front of the magistrate?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree with you...here is something I posted on another thread: :P

It was really very wrong of her to do that...no matter what anyone showed her or tried to manipulate things.
I would've never thought that she would utter those words. I expected that she would say that it was all done in self-defence and that he was a good human being and would never do that intentionally.
But saying that you're not sure! Thinking of all those times? Doubting him to be vindictive? I was like oh come on Nandini..dont you KNOW him?? he always had it covered. And he's not vindictive. Trust him.
I didn't get where her thoughts were taking her. Was she thinking he did that intentionally when she was in the magistrate's office? It sure seemed like that. How does him being overprotective or for a second lets say vindictive relate to him accidentally pushing Soha toward death in defence??(as known to Nandini)

I do not agree on the past memories haunting/affecting her somehow though.
There was never a situation this grave.
Fab5 were never murderers. They did stuff that played with the psyche of their victims yes but for this to leave an everlasting impression on Nandini? I don't think so... That was something else. This however is a matter of life and death. This is grave...


--But I'm not that angry with anyone. Read on--

--And, I get what you're saying. The problem lies in the roots. It is not Nandini whom we should be blaming. We should be blaming the fragility of their love.--



Yesterday made it clear that she still doesn't trust him completely and I'm angry about that. But why was this shown? For the final shift to utmost invincible untenable trust between the two. He trusts her completely or not as of yet remains to be seen. It will be clear on Monday. Whether he holds it against her...but I would be surprised if he didn't. It can't just be one way trust right? So if she didn't, he shouldn't. He can't.


My point is, this is what will lead to the establishment of blind trust between them. Once all this ends, they'll believe each other more than anyone. More than themselves. Their love is still naive...they need this.
And so I'm waiting to see how this plays out.


Great post Eve! This was needed!
Edited by Ribelle_IshRa - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -bharti-

Nandini discovered the goodness in manik the day manik saved her brother. She knew his monsterous face was a facade he chose to show the world. He himself confessed in soha,s farmhouse with her. She has had so many occassions to know him reasonably well. and moreover who in their mind will chose to dillydally on such a crucial time when you are giving a statement in front of the magistrate which could mean jail or bail??

She had seen the video where manik was seen to have nudged soha only to save nandini. That was more than sufficient for her to speak in his favour. NO! she choses to dig deep n act dumb at the most crucial time. Anyone anyone including a saintly person can harm another person to save oneself or their luvd ones, thats called self defense. So even if manik was seen pushing soha aside it was a clear case of defensive act.
The CVs have messed up totally, nandini has chosen the worst day possible to display her honesty. If she coulld have saved someone by her statement then there was somethg to defend her, according to her soha is dead n manik is on the verge of being rejected a bail based on her statement yet? what has she achieved here by doubting manik in front of the magistrate?


That was more than sufficient for her to speak in his favour.

In the court of law she was asked to state the Fact...the Truth...and that is what she did...
She was not asked for character certification...just to state the fact...
And the fact was she was not sure what happened...since she was not conscious...
She even cant say Dont know...as already Nyonica went with her being conscious story...


If she coulld have saved someone by her statement then there was somethg to defend her, according to her soha is dead n manik is on the verge of being rejected a bail based on her statement yet? what has she achieved here by doubting manik in front of the magistrate?

She doesnt doubt Manik...she always insists either it was an accident or an act of pure self defence ...She merely refuses be dishonest in front of Law and say that she was sure since she was conscious...Nandhini is Honest like that...its a characteristic that defines her...To stand for the Truth...No Shortcuts...

Edited by arathim - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sue101

Ok i will be kind ..yaar eve 😆🤗

so you wrote so much to say why nandu had to say what she said, and the reason being manik himself

so now tell be,'
- why the next moment she had to change her views and beg the judge saying she was wrong and manik is not involved
- why did she run behind the jeep, where manik was handcuffed and taken
- why did she cry to navya saying that she did something wrong?

so she feels what she did was wrong right?😆

ps : btw your other topic was so nice to read because fully it was manik's pain and you smart girl one topic supporting manik and other supporting nandu wah wah girl u be the queen ⭐️


Sue Will Try to answer your questions...Evey dont mind...I am in a hijacking mood here...😛

why the next moment she had to change her views and beg the judge saying she was wrong and manik is not involved

She spoke the Truth when she said She was not sure...she says that because she cant say 'I dont know' as already Nyonica went ahead with her conscious story and she also cant lie saying that she saw everything and he didnt do anything...So she says she is not sure...Here the 'not sure' is referred to her being not sure what happened...as she doesnt know...in person...
The next moment she realises her words would be misconstrued as she had not gone with the official lie that Nyonica had brought forward and her saying not sure could be taken as her saying he might be guilty...So she tries to clarify what she said...to Manik and the Judge...She believs he cant do such a thing...personally...but here she cant say a lie that she saw everything and he didnt do it...

why did she run behind the jeep, where manik was handcuffed and taken

First becoz she Loves him...😛

She sees that he misunderstood her and wants to clear it...and offcourse his being in any kind of pain or trouble...she will always run behind him...its her characteristic just like being Honest and standing for Truth is...

why did she cry to navya saying that she did something wrong?

She saw the hurt in Manik's eyes and is shattered...its her self blaming that because she spoke the truth and not lied he went to Jail...

Hope I answered...
Edited by arathim - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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firstly
.thank you for such a sensible post...when everyone else seems to be going off about how wrong nandu is..glad to see a post that discusses a issue the CVs might be exploring

there is so much of Manik and Manan that is yet to be explored...Nyonika has manipulated and trapped a innocent 17 year old girl who can't lie but the issue is that Manik and his past monstrous ways still haunt both of them..that is why Nandu is always anxious to calm him when he is about to lash out..because let's face it : a part of her is still scared of him and what he was capable of in the past...
Manan still have deeply embedded issues to work out...i believe whatever route the cvs take will eventually make manan stronger together..today's episode showed there is still so more for them to figure out as a couple..about themselves..about each other.

wonderfully explored and written

-Reya <3
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Posted: 10 years ago
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finally some sane post...

totally agree eveline..this is the root cause..she somewhere still has doubts as how he will behave in an aggressive moment. the reason she had the flashback of harshad incident proves it...
if we recollect those days..dint she tried to join fab 5 just to protect manik so that he does not goes overboard..i still remember how she said..if not me ur friend would have been behind the bars...she feared his anger then also..it was unpredictable for her then and it is still the same for her..that fear has not gone..its deep rooted..and when presented with facts coupled with cabir;s words n nyo's reverse psychological talks ..she got legit doubtful be it for a moment...its natural..it can happen..it does no where measure her love for him...she will have to overcome this fear



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Awesome analysis of Nandini's psyche. It totally makes sense. And I believe its true that, its easy to forgive but very difficult to forget.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: arathim


That was more than sufficient for her to speak in his favour.

In the court of law she was asked to state the Fact...the Truth...and that is what she did...
She was not asked for character certification...just to state the fact...
And the fact was she was not sure what happened...since she was not conscious...
She even cant say Dont know...as already Nyonica went with her being conscious story...


If she coulld have saved someone by her statement then there was somethg to defend her, according to her soha is dead n manik is on the verge of being rejected a bail based on her statement yet? what has she achieved here by doubting manik in front of the magistrate?

She doesnt doubt Manik...she always insists either it was an accident or an act of pure self defence ...She merely refuses be dishonest in front of Law and say that she was sure since she was conscious...Nandhini is Honest like that...its a characteristic that defines her...To stand for the Truth...No Shortcuts...

it is so convenient to say she is an honest person, really? how many times she has not lied to manik ?? where was her honesty ?? it was her intelligent brain which thought it was the best thing to do in a given situation. This present situation begged of her to be smart, she knew nyonika was not to be trusted, she knew the implications of her statement. she only had to know if she trusted her manik if he would have harmed soha without any reason? was that too big to expect from her.
Then we have so many saying she is just 17, then what about those times when she has behaved beyond her age. We cannot be selective to suit our needs. One has to accept she faltered big time here, honesty n age cannot come to her defense here.
There is a saying in english, straight trees are the ones to axed first.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -bharti-

it is so convenient to say she is an honest person, really? how many times she has not lied to manik ?? where was her honesty ?? it was her intelligent brain which thought it was the best thing to do in a given situation. This present situation begged of her to be smart, she knew nyonika was not to be trusted, she knew the implications of her statement. she only had to know if she trusted her manik if he would have harmed soha without any reason? was that too big to expect from her.

Then we have so many saying she is just 17, then what about those times when she has behaved beyond her age. We cannot be selective to suit our needs. One has to accept she faltered big time here, honesty n age cannot come to her defense here.
There is a saying in english, straight trees are the ones to axed first.


first of all how can we compare her honesty when someone's death is involved to some trivial lies which she might have said in the past..😕..i really dont get it..even big ppl will shiver in front of court n law...why can't her conscience come into play..whether she is 17 or 27 does not matter.

why are we assuming she knows nyonika in and out ??? 😕 does she..??
i dont think so...she will get to know nyonika from here on..

nyonica was quit convincing in the way she manipulated nandu...she clearly said she does want nandu to utter "self defense" either coz that will end up him in jail...neither should she was unconscious...she was showing so much concern to bring him out by hook or crook...wasnt that reverse pyschology which she brilliantly used???


yes it is too much too expect perfect nandu under such circumstances when she herself has still doubts about manik...see my previous post...in harshad case she had doubts..aint it ?? infact it was hit n miss case for manik...he dint even had it covered either...

unlike manik..nandu's past interactions with manik have had enough evidences to seed this doubt in her mind and it just got strengthened by cabir and nyo. why cant she falter.?? why cant she do a mistake here? she faltered in not saying lie...which is basically her characteristic..if she would have lied that would have been butchering of character ..coz somewhere she is really not sure how manik will react under such situations ???.if cabir can doubt him..alya can doubt him inspite of being childhood friends..why cant she have her moment of doubt. she instantly realized how her truth has damaged everything ..thats y she instantly pleaded that he is innocent...

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Edited by nneeiill - 10 years ago

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