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Posted: 10 years ago
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On the surface, some fingers might point at Nandini and the majority of course will be pointing at Nyonika...but the root lies somewhere deep, down, inside...
It started the day when Nandini and Manik came face to face the very first time and all hell broke loose. Remember the days when she was haunted by Manik's fear. The days when his cruelty made us shudder, his inhuman antics winning many accolades, including ' Monster Manik ' which actually turned into his identity. Can we go back and look at he horrendous pain this 17 year old girl suffered at the hands of Fab 5 and especially Manik. The tears, the jeers, the jerks, the insults, the tasks and punishments, the humiliation...
Yes, I know we have all moved on and they both have moved on too...Our Monster has turned into our darling, and he has evolved into a guy any girl would want to spend her lifetime with...then why in the world am I reopening old wounds that have healed?? Or have they??
Is Nandini really out of those shadows?? Every time when she comes to the cross roads when she has to pick between his cruelty and his humanity, the girl falters and stumbles badly. The musicana night, when he comes out in the open and says it was all a prank to get back to her...she believes him!!?? Have we thought why?? Cause deep down she believes this man is capable of being so inhuman, that he is capable of this torture, this cruelty and she won't be surprised if he does think and act that way. That precisely was the psychological reason behind her lack of faith, yes...she believed he was capable of stooping so low
Not to mention the fact that she knows that Manik can go to any extent for his loved ones...he can do anything when he feels his loved ones are cornered...that impression is meant to last forever...
Coming to her next test of trust...the Soha Debacle...she started out fine cause now she knew her guy. She did trust him more than the last time...but then come the doubts, then creeps the hesitation...can he do something like this?? And the answer she gets is based on her past experiences with the guy. She has seen his aggressive side oh so clearly, she has been a victim of his volatile temper, she has been pushed to the extreme edge by his inhumanity and again she knows what he is capable of when pushed to protect his own.
They might have fallen for each other irrevocably, but the past still lurks, unconsciously, unrecognized. They say old sins cast long shadows, and Manik's aggressive past has left its mark on Nandini's psyche. What she has suffered at his hands, has been forgiven, but it seems that it has not been forgotten. The demons of the past have not been slayed. Their past has shaped their present and if not dealt with, it will definitely deform their future too.
The root question here...does she believe that he is capable of being inhuman, cruel in certain circumstances and every time the answer is ...yes!! But is she wrong?? Our past teaches us some lessons that we remember, that we should retain, and her defense mechanism has done exactly that. Is it so easy to delete certain horrifying events from your memory? Don't such incidents leave a deep impact on one's psyche, that cannot be countered conveniently? If today, she judges that Manik can be ruthless in an accident..mind you she does not believe he murdered her in cold blood...is that too surprising?? Isn't that natural in the circumstances??

Manik feels hurt and betrayed when she is so quick to jump to the worst conclusions, but isn't that what he has deliberately cultivated ?? Hasn't he always basked in being BAD?? He did say that she makes him want to be good but is that closure enough when at every bend in the road he has gone to great lengths to insure his own worst reputation?? Manik has never made any bones about his lack of scruples, rather has been very in your face about it, so why not understand her sponsored mentality behind her judgments...
The roots run deep here, the rot lies somewhere in the not so distant past...there is a reason behind her repeated lack of trust and the reasons have been provided by Manik Monster Malhotra himself. It's his Karma in Nandini's form...
(Just trying to analyze...not taking any one's side or defending their stance..MaNan are one for me..please be kind...thanks)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It's funny how I mentioned something very alike on the AT a little time. It's ironical that Nyonika perfectly chose Manik's greyness of character his shady side as the seed of doubt here. She perfectly chose the Monster.

Both Manik and Nandini have definitely come a long long way. Yes the past is still there. For not just Nandini but also Manik. But let's talk about her for now. There was a time when Manik was cruel to her, his atrocities were the only imprints he left on her, she saw him in his extremist element but then she also saw differently. That was the very start of their trust. Storeroom. He exploded. Maine Nahi kiya. Nahi bheje Maine Gunde. he told her that he was capable of anything but that, something that vicious. He showed her a part of him for the first time. His limit. That's the point from where the understanding began and all the fear of Monster Manik faded and in fact it showed in her body language, in her 'mujhe ab tumse darr nahi lagta' roars. And the rishab incident was it. She simply saw through him and knew Monster Manik was like that thin shield around a man, that though covered it all, was completely harmless.

If we actually assume that the past played the biggest hand here, I'll be honestly disappointed and lost. Beause Musicana, the trust between them was quite fragile, Nandini was very vulnerable and Manik hit a very tight spot but that's where the ultimate journey to trust started for both of them. They, each preach of love being trust and their trust strengthened every single step. Also the fact that Manik completely changed for her. He became a total different man, so assuming the past, even though lingering, was the root of it, where will they go from now? Will every little push, that ironically, will only test their trust, push them apart?

However there's one thing about Manik that Nandini always stressed on. His rage. Manik's anger. The reason being lack of control in anger. That's something she'd feared always, not for herself, but for him. She knows Manik's fury is extreme, and it does land him up in big trouble. But more than that it was a moment of perfect manipulation, of epic contributions, of pressure, of emotional conflict. Nandini was never made to think about such things in one moment. And right this moment she was pushed into it, tackled and onto the ground and the bull was right in front of her.
that was just one moment. One messed up, magical, epic moment where words did what nobody could've.
it was all about words.

'Is Manik involved in Soha's MURDER?'
'I'm not sure.'

To Manik it was devastation, it was like a thousand knives plunged in the pit of his stomach.


"There is nothing more heartbreaking than to see the woman you love, the one woman you would do anything to protect, is the woman who is afraid of you.
-Mallika Nawal.

Let's talk about Manik's revisit now. Whereas Nandini let go of his past Manik never did. Since the moment he started opening up to her the slightest reference to their past 'monster' irked him, drove him crazy. He was always disturbed by it, perturbed and afraid. Every moment he liked her more was a moment he feared because he knew a guy like him didn't deserve her, how could he ever deserve her? He knew Dhruv was never bad to Nandini, Dhruv was nice and he was afraid. He was afraid if Nandini ended up liking him more because how could she like a monster over a man like Dhruv? Thus the i don't like it. That past was not so easily forgotten by him.

And then he came a long long way. He who trusted no one, gave it to her, he who softened for no one, did it for her, he who lived a deprived lonely closed up life forever, who never shared his worries with anyone, sliced through his heart, through the bleeding ruptured veins, and showed all of it to her. He stepped out of his mould, awkward, imbalanced, uncomfortable and slowly with her help he found a path, a way, but this new world, he was too new into it. He was too fragile right now. He finally found the courage to let go of his past and love. Accept love, love with all its chances.

and what is love to him? Trust. He accepted it because of her trust in him and his in her.

the moment those words left her mouth.
he was devastated.

Is Manik involved in Soha's murder?
I'm not sure.

Do you trust me Nandini, do you trust the fact that even in rage I wouldn't be driven to murder?
I'm not sure.

It was just a fleeting moment. Just a moment of human emotions and human hesitance and human error. It was the moment his heart came crashing down that's how he sees it.
He definitely went back in the past. The question of murder is not just of trust, its of identity, of morality, of life, of character.
and he's devastated.


Honestly, this track has me on the edge of my seat. Both of them are right, none of them at fault here. The fragility of their trust was not just tested, it was manipulated by a woman who knew the buttons she was pushing. She knew him inside out. She used him against him. She used her against her.

And what will be interesting, is, how they move on from here, how they introspect, how they mend the loopholes in their relationship. And it'll be one hell of a meaningful journey.

Great post eve. Always freaking love what you write. The manner of your depiction is so beautiful and clear. JUST LOVE whatever you write.

Rida.😳

Edited by MaybeSomeday... - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The root cause was evident the moment Manik asked her to say what's in her heart and she said "I'm not sure"


That "I'm not sure" is indicative of a larger problem than just the Soha issue...and it should be a wake up call for both Manik and Nandini...


They are still NOT SURE of a lot of things...there's a reason they still haven't told each other how they feel despite being MORE than obvious in physically demonstrating to each other or through other roundabout ways that they can't live without each other...


Nyo wouldn't have been able to capitalize on this one weakness if it didn't exist...MaNan have not shared enough with each other to truly know each other...they kept jumping from one crisis to the next as the show made them...


There were interludes along the way like New Year's but they didn't really contribute to the needed communication.


Nandu remembered that she needs to be his Shining Star and protect him...but she didn't realize how he perceives trust in ABSOLUTE terms...


She doesn't know about his twisted equation with Nyo fully yet either...the lack of all this communication b/w them...THAT is what that "I'm not sure" was really about.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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And everyone says that Nandu turned Manik into a "Good boy"...so much irony in that statement when Nandu herself is NOT SURE of the levels of good/bad in this guy she loves...

She doesn't know what REALLY drives him towards his Monster side, she doesn't REALLY understand his vindictive/cold edges.

She just soothed everything without thinking about the root causes...and Manik was content to let her soothe him and just bask in the glow of her light.


As a result we reach a point where someone hits right on the grey areas b/w them and they both crumble under pressure...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice post even I think in same way
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Posted: 10 years ago
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THIS.
It is indeed an issue of trust between them.

"Love is trust"
" I will always trust you..hamesha"

It all came too soon for them, and like them I fell for it also (thats one point I will elaborate later in the post).


And before I begun, A salute to Nyonika. She knew Manik so well that was given but she really picked up on Nandini's trait quickly too. Hats off to her! This was blow was something else.


Now, coming to trust...it is always absolute. You may not trust someone universally in all aspects. However, in the aspect you choose to trust, you either trust or not. There is not half hearted trust like thing.

And here their trust & confidence in themselves is also low.

Thats what came into play this time.

When he first demanded her trust, she said it to him quickly that yes ok...you want to hear that..fine..I will trust you always. He was very clear what kind of absolute trust he was asking for, he trust like that...he expects to be trusted like that. Good, bad, ugly, thats how it is.

When the very next he challenged her trust, all her back memories which she had kept aside (not dealt with) came rushing to her and she couldn't trust him and herself then.

She later built it up, and learned to trust him with herself. When she took that fall of trust on their day, she TRUSTED him to not harm her and to have her back always. But did she trusted him yet when it comes to harming others..NO.

Ans this was brought out yesterday in front of the magistrate. Nyonika's confidence in knowing Manik well and that he can do such a thing added with Cabir's confusion...it all played in her mind. Because she doesn't trust her judgement also completely when it comes to him. Which, as you rightly said, could be because of their history.

But, if he has shown his bad side to her...he as also shown his good side to her and her only. Its like a battle of Monster Manik & Good Manik, where so far in her mind at crucial times Monster has won.

I don't think Manik expected her to lie blatantly, but he was expecting a show of trust from her.

Will update more later.

Edited by TheFaerieQueen - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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*sighs* this^^^ all of it!

the tortures manik did to her,still makes me shiver!remember the juice of hell he was about to make her drink cause he thought because of nandini harshad picked on dhruv?still makes me sick.she knows how ruthless he can be.to what extent he can go to avenge those who have wronged his loved ones.

his new side,his softer sweet is still unknown to his close friends but everyone ia sure of his fury,his impulsiveness,his lack of control!

and again coming back to the tortures,how can one forget those!some of them were inhuman.this kind of torture,bullying leaves a deep mark.

that's why even after loving manan for so many days i still get surprised how nandu fell for him and how much manik has changed!

so yeah we can't blame nandini for having doubts for she has seen her monster's each and every monsterous face!

no she doesn't believe he is capable of killing someone but she knows he acts 1st,thinks later.she knows his anger.she knows how much he can love.but she also how much he can hate those who tries to harm his cherised ones.she knows just like his love his anger knows no bound.she believes his love without a doubt but his uncontrollable anger,his impulsive nature,his strong urge to protect his loved ones at any cost makes her falter a bit
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ok i will be kind ..yaar eve 😆🤗
so you wrote so much to say why nandu had to say what she said, and the reason being manik himself

so now tell be,'
- why the next moment she had to change her views and beg the judge saying she was wrong and manik is not involved
- why did she run behind the jeep, where manik was handcuffed and taken
- why did she cry to navya saying that she did something wrong?

so she feels what she did was wrong right?😆

ps : btw your other topic was so nice to read because fully it was manik's pain and you smart girl one topic supporting manik and other supporting nandu wah wah girl u be the queen ⭐️
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Though it was expected that Nyonika would use Nandini, Manik's weakness, against him...Nandini's, I am not sure, was completely unexpected. And if the root is still old Manik for her, then all is lost ! With this she has utterly shattered him. This is the same girl who told him that she trusted him to do no wrong, after being with him the entire night in her inebriated state. I would be kind and say she has been well manipulated by a master like Nyonika, but she did make a colossal mistake with regards to Manik.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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and eve yaar, a relationship has to grow and not fall down, and unfortunately two involved in the relationship is working negatively on it

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