'Tune Kehdiya Alvida..' // What I don't agree with. - Page 2

Originally posted by: zohasad2.0

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I get where you are coming from Rida. But giving another chance is not always easy. I know you get that as well but the case is huge...this mistrust meant the world to her.

Nandu has lost all the strength to lay trust in him again. Not that she says it is impossible but she can't accept him in her life w/o it. One has to see where she comes from. She lived a life thinking about fireflies, thinking when true love will come it will sweep her off her feet, all those cutesy-mushy dreams she has been seeing ever since she came to know about the concept of love and this man breaks it all...all of it.

How can she start trusting him all over again when he hasn't even said that yes, I promise I will never do it again. Maybe he means it from within but sometimes words make so much of a difference. Manik has to bridge this gap...where she can say "I trust you." again.

Nandu also has to take a step forward...she can't plan to stay away from him just coz she thinks this is the best thing for them...as she says this is about US.

This is more of a battle of both of them...he has to make her trust him again and she has to move forward and realize that staying together is the BEST thing for them, staying away will give them more pain and nothing else.

Originally posted by: BoxedIn

Rida, this was beautiful as always. You know how much I love reading you.
totally offtopic but everytime i stare at teri mud dp i goes.

Uh, do I disagree with you? No. What you said about Manik's understanding of relationships is perfectly true. The reason he's so ultra-protective about Dhruv/Fab5 is that he feels indebted to them in so many ways. There are only two things in the world which seem to have given him this pure unadulterated joy, and that is his music, and Nandini. That Nandini from the pre-Musicana days who gave him her trust without his asking for it, who hugged him back without asking any questions when he grabbed her outside her house, and who selflessly promised him everything he asked of her.

You have to disagree with me though. it's the rule of this topic.🤣 like I kind of disagreed with myself while making this topic but I made it anyway so everyone will put sense into my bheja.🤣

So, is the Nandini we see today the same girl? No she isn't. <<This part I completely agree with. I so miss meri old Nandu though :( but i acknowledge the change for what it is, for what Manik had done to her.
Manik needs Nandini to comprehend love in all its beauty, I agree with you on that. But he also needs to do some growing-up on his own. If Nandini had come back to him today, it would have been out of guilt and fear for him. Nandini cannot be Manik's saviour. No human being should ever be anyone's 'saviour', in my opinion. <<Actually this is what I'd been thinking. I didn't want Nandini to come to him out of fear of his self destruction. I remember watching the episode where Nandu was like he's soo careless but I should've been more responsible. I didn't agree with her being the person responsible for his actions but I understood the statement completely.

Because Manik is just all of that. I think in the big picture, with Nandini walking out of his life, it'll do more bad to him then good. I just think that what she can teach him by being there is something he can never teach himself no matter how much we expect. Did he do it the first 19 years of his life or the time when he was trying to keep himself away from her when he was ready to see her with Dhruv? I think it's also cos Nandini knows she loves him, she also knows love for a beautiful feeling apart from the ugliness Manik associates it with. Nandini cannot be Manik's saviour, but in Manik's own words, Nandini is the only person who can inspire him to be a better person. And if he, as now, associates her with the bitterness the rest of his life reigns, he won't want to be good. I think I personally wanted more conversation. I wanted Nandini to tell Manik that there are a few lessons he has to learn. That he just has to understand what she's trying to tell him. And I'm not going to say Manik was entirely wrong and neither was Nandini. Their ideologies were simply different.

That's not love, and it would have been no different from the ManRuv friendship. He loves her because she saved him, she loves him because he protects her. Do you see how unhealthy that is? It'd have been a rinse, repeat of their past , with a heightened awareness of their feelings.

Manik might not realise on his own that he loves Nandini. But he does need to love himself first. Nandini said it today, he does not care for himself, he does not care for anyone else. It was harsh and not entirely true, but he needs to respect the love others have for him. Nandini, his friends. He is reckless and self-destructive, and if he has listened to anything Nandini has been saying to him for so long, he'll work on it himself. Show her that he's trying. It is not something anyone else can do for him. As an individual, there are certain battles we have to fight alone. Nandini is his star, she has told him in plain words, again and again, to cherish the good in himself. She will always protect him from going over the edge, but he has to remember that in doing so, she's herself inching closer to that dark edge every single time. Nandini has a lot of realisations of her own pending, but this, this is not something any human should be set up to.

I guess it's just what she could've taught him by teaching him you don't have to pay for every mistake of yours, mistakes are bound to happen, and sometimes you're forgiven too, totally opposite of the principle Nyonika has brought him up with, Manik would've understood it way more effectively. But it's what I most probably expected Nandini to do. Like you said, i cannot ignore that Nandini is also a human, why does it always have to be her? Some things Manik has to learn on his own. But I'm still a little unsure if he'll learn that love's good without her. He needs her to show him otherwise.

I don't know how much sense I made here. Not a lot, I expect. But Manik is back to soaring hotness again, and I'm kinda fangirling here, so pliss to excuse. 😆

YESS SAMEEE. PRECAP DEKHI. MERI MANIK. AND CAR SCENEEE. ok drools.

Originally posted by: medha16

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Firstly, can I just love you for this post? 🤗 Your words were

EEE MEDHAAA.🤗

Manik and Nandini are alike in their basic ways that actually matter the most...what is different is how they deal with situations.

Both of them have had different lives, different experiences and have gone through very emotionally draining times that have shaped up their personality.

While Nandini has been the logical, practical and responsible lady, shouldering immense stress from her childhood, For Manik it has been a journey where love has only caused him pain...he has learnt to deal with relationships in a business-like manner...give and take...he has learnt it the hard way and that will always stay with him, no matter what.

Exactly! I think it's a deadlock of perceptions. Manik believes something and Nandini believes another. It doesn't mean that any of them is wrong. Manik was not wrong when he gave Nandini up. He wasn't passing her around like a toy. He wasn't debasing his feelings for her. It wasn't easy for him. It killed him so much inside, but he did it because he owed Dhruv his everything, because he thought Dhruv deserved anything and everything and he couldn't have been ruthless enough to take that one thing Dhruv finally wanted and Manik had in him the capability of letting go for him. That doesn't justify him but in a way does. Doesn't means Nandu has to forgive him. None of them are exactly wrong. Manik has never gotten anything good from love in his life where Nandini knows the potential of love and she's the only one who can show it to him because I believe she's the only one he'll allow to.

Nandini has been through so much already and she is afraid. The loss of her fireflies was a symbol of the loss of her beliefs and faith. She is too afraid to trust again, to love again. She fears that Manik would choose his friends over her once again if the situation arises. She was too broen the last time and she knows that she won't be able to deal with the pain, the rejection once again. And thus, she is removing herself from the situation by running away, from her love, from accepting her feelings, from giving Manik, giving them, another chance. Little does she realize that it will never be that easy for her or for him to stay away.She needs time to come to terms with her feelings and I'll grant her that. She is too overwhelmed right now with so much happening around her. she believes in her innocent mind that staying away would be better for them both, that they are "toxic"together but her hear will never accept that. Look how she is filling the void already.

Manik has had a much more complex life. To him, love equals pain and thus he cannot come to terms with that word and refuses to acknowledge that it's love that brings both of them together so-much-so that they can never stay apart how much ever they try. He has always been a man of extremes...he loves deeply, hates with a vengeance and trust doesn't come to him naturally, but when it does, he expects to have it all. He is egoistic and possessive...he wants it all , nothing is half-baked for him. He knows that nandini is all he wants but he does not know why. Unless and until he admits his feelings to himself, I believe it is impossible for them to get together. Both of them need some time apart, to introspect, to come to terms with their feelings on their own, to realize the value of the other in their lives. The last time, it was all a whirlwind of raging hormones and shifting gears from hate to one-upping the other to passionate encounters in secret. They never really got a chance to know each other. Their trust is still fragile, trust is like the rungs of a ladder which you conquer step by step. Trust will only build with time, in those little discussions like you mentioned and those meaningful silences.

Maybe they needed this separation. I really don't blame Nandini here. I cannot. she is all of 17 and dealing with so much. Both of them need time. She still doesn't KNOW Manik well enough to realize that he will be lost without her as acting as his anchor. I want them to start afresh at a clean state. I don't need a relationship right now, all I ask for is companionship where they get to know each other from the start. The bond needs to grow, the trust needs to nurture and develop and the emotions need to be read and understood. Maybe, just maybe we will see that in the days to come once both of them realize how much they NEED the other in their lives for a semblance of normalcy, peace and comfort. I'll take a tentative friendship over a hurried confession anyday. I hope, I really hope that their journey together takes forward logically one step at a time.

^^ This. I just needed someone to reaffirm this for me. I know that she fears now. That the trust she believed in so much had been broken brutally. She couldn't have given it back to him on just an apology. I guess I wanted a little bit more conversation. I understand Nandini and I was expecting her to say more than blaming both of them of not keeping eachother happy. Because when she says that she's not saying that Manik give me one reason to trust you again, give me something to mend what you've broken. Her words were more about how toxic their relationship was and that was what I wanted to defend. Because it isn't. They don't make each other's life toxic. If she thinks by going away from manik she'll release him from his pain she's mistaken because her walking away to help him will not help him. it'll not make him the person she wants him to be without her. only she can do that. Because Manik is such a shithead, otherwise. He'll get back into his cocoon of anger and ego and what she'd broken through, what she'd inspired him to be, "you make me want to be good." will all dissolve again. He won't understand her until she explains to him more than the toxicity. Manik is too lonely, has been, he cannot give her what she wants easily because he doesn't have it in him to do it. He doesn't' know the good bout love, he doesn't know anything that's beyond give and take and she's the one who can make a difference. But I also understand that she doesn't always have to do with what people like (me)🤣 She's entitled to her own opinions. She's too overwhelmed and I get the track I always wanted. MY MANIK BACK. I just would've liked for it to happen better than just cos US we are toxic for one another so we can't be together.

I'm not disappointed, just oddly hopeful!

Originally posted by: Firebolt

Dude, I heartz you, you know that right? We be the Manik protection squad4eve 🤣


BOLTIEE! YES AND I YOU☺️. We be his personal bodyguards. 🤣🤣 we no take paise also.🤣

I agree, obviously, with what you said. Her decision seemed a bit contradicting. She told him he doesn't care about himself or anyone else.. she knows this and yet she wants to leave him? He's self destructive and hopeless, lost and guarded.. he needs her so much and she left him.


I didn't disagree with Nandini's decisions and her turmoil. I understand her completely. I thin it was when she chose to tell him that it was because them together was "toxic" and that he'll be good without her and she without him, I was chanting no, cos I didn't agree with that particular thought of hers. Nandini is the only person who inspires him to be good, who has it in her to make him a better person. He'd never ever achieve that on his own. He'll never be that without her. My baby will just close himself up in this shell of ego and anger, and he'll wither more and more.

On the other hand, maybe it's all too much for her? It almost seems like she's afraid of what they share. And can we blame her for that? Can we blame her for being human?

^^^ I agree. That's the reason I'd been supporting her from the very start of this. She's human, she deserves to be freed of this pain. And I support her. I just don't support the part where she thinks that being apart from Manik will do good for him and her. Because she believes they're toxic for one another. I guess I've a lot of problems with that part ^^ Manik, may have, in a way proved his part, but she's not toxic for him and she herself agreed to it when she was recalling how stubborn he'd been but she was the responsible one. Only she can bring him out of his self destruction. No relationship is just full of beauty. The question is she willing to give that? But given all she's going through and her tender age I do understand her.

They share a deep bond, and while Nandini says she cares about him she doesn't realize, not fully, how deep her concern is and how deep his need is.

^^ so true.

A few good things from today's episode, they're not hiding behind some charade, it's all in the open, they care about each other.

^and Manik pulling the window up. HOTTT.🤣🤣

The funny thing is these two think that after putting so much on the table, his vulnerability, her admittance, they really think they can be away from each other. He's angry and she's scared but those emotions are conquerable. We'll just have to wait for it.



🤣🤣MUTTONHEADS, both of them. and we'll get our old manik back in the meantime #goesmadfangirling.🤣

Originally posted by: Miminits

Nice post😊

i understand what you want to say, and i agree with your perception of Manik completely...

it's true he doesnt really know what love means given his own family background

and i also agree that Nandini is the only one who can really help him, and she will with time😳

but what we shouldnt forget is that forgiveness should be given and not asked nor forced and Nandini needs time to gather herself and her thoughts and really bring herself to forgive him from the bottom of her heart and on her own...

I agree ^^ and I never meant for her forgiveness to be coerced. She loves him and is clear about it unlike Manik. like she said that them being together was toxic and she wasn't good for him and vice versa, I just wanted more because I didn't agree with this statement alone. Nandini makes him want to be good. She makes him a better, wiser person in so many ways. And love is all that isn't it? sometimes forgiving, giving chances, loving and caring? Manik doesn't associate love with good, Nandini does and she's the only one who can show the good in it to him. sometimes maybe we should forgive the people we love because we know that no matter what, we'll always love them, that they need us in this moment more than ever. Did I want Nandu to completely forgive him? to be back to lovers? not really. But I didn't want her to completely leave him or leave him with just the toxicity explanation.

only then she'd be able to come forward and guide him as his shining bright light in a dark tunnel... what i mean is that for the time being Nandini herself no longer feels she can shine for him... i dont know if i'm able to explain my pov😕

don't worry i understood you completely <3

anyway relations are complex things and humans are also complicated beings

and actually both need each other to heal their wounds😳


^^^ SO TRUE <33