M VS M - PART 3 - Page 10

Wow, great job Samia Di!! 👏 👏 And great next topic! can't wait to hear your explanations, Saadia and Sami! 😛

No probz.😊.. infact iam looking forward to this last question 😊

aww thanks ammu 🤗
Ammuu u read my justification for Angad love 😆 .. i tell u i got to excited.. today epi rocked😊 ... 😆

ok guys seriously...can you 2 act more competitive with each other?..whats this "thanks Sadia best of luck *smooch smooch*..."thanks for understanding Sami *smooch smooch*"

I WANT TO SEE COMPETITION NOT FRIENDSHIP 😡
i bet you 2 voted for each other too


😳 ok im jokin..im bored and sick..so be quiet...and i wont be here much from now on..as im sick..and it takes a lot of energy to get my head up and come on a computer...so if you guys have any questions...just um.. 😕 ...wait till i return 😊

thank you

Oy Samia, get read to get a verbal beat down…
Haila! I'm sorry Samia, and I'm sorry Sana, mujhse yeh competitive ka atmosphere nahin hota 😆

I shall post my reply since I am procrastinating anyway 😉

Topic 3: Mishti's revenge seeking right or wrong?
Viewpoint: Angad and Kripa

From Angad and Kripa's point of view, Mishti coming back for revenge is not at all justified.

Why? Read on darlings…

I have always heard that the beginning is the best place to start from. That sounds good to me, so ladies and gentlemen (are there even guys here?) allow me to bring you back to the beginning of Angad and Kripa's love saga. Why? Don't you trust me? Well, I don't blame you; nowadays you have to question everything. In order to show you (the judge(s) and members) why Mishti's coming back to execute her little revenge plot is not at all justified, I will have to point out why Mishti's main reasons for revenge, her dear old Prithvi's tragedy and her adhuri love story, shouldn't have had a place in Angad and Kripa's love story to begin with. In fact, Mishti and Prithvi brought suffering and losses on themselves and revenge on Angad and Kripa has no basis because Angad and Kripa are not even at fault! Ao sunao pyar ki ek kahani…
When someone will ask me how I met my future husband, I plan on saying how we were attracted to each other instantly, and grew close as friends, and finally realized our love for one another. But yaar, yeh tho kitni boring story hogi na! But if someone were to ask Angad or Kripa how they met, well, I believe my future story would be put to shame. Remember how Angad the handsome, rugged casanova patted Kripa on her behind to signify appreciation for her singing and how Kripa the beautiful maiden gave him a slap whose tight echo still resounds in that music academy?
No, I'm not trying to depict how much they hated each other, but how they slowly fell in love. Even though they were complete opposites, they learned to understand each other and take care of each other. In fact, their love started to play a dominant role in both their respective lives. Check it out: Kripa was a traditional, small-town girl whose love for Angad was so pure that his truth compelled her to hate him beyond her capacity. And Angad? Girls were there for masti and fun but that's it, until Kripa entered his life. Hating her only brought him closer to her. And what happened? Well, then Prithvi makes a very grand entry (of course Mishti does too, but on that a bit later). At once he is overwhelmed by Kripa's beauty, innocence and simplicity. I don't blame him…but back to the point, he fell in love with Kripa. And his feelings got the best of him.
Damini ji found out, and immediately planned for Prithvi's and Kripa's wedding with Naina ji. Sure Prithvi had a huge misunderstanding that Kripa loved him too, but he never bother to confirm this, and thus brought the following tragedy upon himself. Kripa left him at the engagement ceremony and ran right into Angad's arms, where she professed her love to him and he his to her. Prithvi's first mistake: he had assumed Kripa loved him too without ever asking her directly how she felt about him.
Fast forwarding a little bit to the first Angad and Kripa separation, Mishti gets in on the mistake bandwagon too this time. Angad is in tears, he is heartbroken and furious that Kripa cheated on him (on the contrary…) and what does Naina ji do? Like any good businesswoman, er, I mean mother, she tried to match Angad up with Mishti, knowing very well that Angad has always loved Kripa. You want to hear a secret? Come closer and I'll tell you: Mishti knew that Angad has always loved Kripa too! But her own love for Angad turned to destroy her (I believe the terms fanaa comes to mind). She let herself believe he was actually in love with her, when all he was doing was trying to forget about Kripa. Mishti tried to turn her friendship with Angad into a relationship, but Angad repeatedly refused to become hers, until he was brainwashed so badly, that marriage came up. But once the truth was found out, he went back to Kripa, his true love. However, Mishti's constant lie to herself that Angad had indeed started to love her back left her alone in solitude when she had known very well what Kripa meant to Angad. Mishti's first mistake: she had pretended that she believed that Angad truly did love her.
Moving on, let's revisit the second Angad Kripa separation, in which Prithvi became Kripa's closest friend and pretty soon her fianc. Like sister, like brother. Despite knowing Kripa's intense, sincere love for Angad, he chose to let her force herself into marrying him. He always stated that he knew her condition, her heart's true desire. Yet, he couldn't see that she was never happy with him. Sure, some might say he did realize that and that's why he finally gave her up to Angad when the second truth came out. But allow me to point out that he wasn't at all satisfied with his decision and as a result plotted against Angad. In fact, he murdered Josh, Angad's best friend, when Josh found out how evil Prithvi truly was. In the aftermath, he separated Angad from Kripa, brainwashed Kripa into hating Angad and finally the financial crisis of the Khanna family forced Kripa to marry Prithvi. Yet their marriage was one from hell; Kripa constantly remembered Angad and never became Prithvi's wife in the true sense. Prithvi suffered some more. Even though Kripa was with him, she wasn't his. His second mistake: he tried to get Kripa when he knew she was never his.
Angad then became Zaib, and he sought revenge against Kripa, while using Mishti as bait. Once again, Angad came back into Kripa's life, ruining Prithvi's minute hopes, and at the same time, Mishti threw away her marriage-to-be with Karthik to be with Zaib. Mishti's second mistake: she let her emotions get the best of her so much so that she rejected Karthik's true love for Zaib's lover boy act.
As the story goes on, even in hate Kripa and Angad get back together, and Prithvi's and Mishti's lives are ruined. But not due to Angad and Kripa because it was Prithvi and Mishti who sought love from people who they knew did not reciprocate their love from the very beginning. Realistically speaking, does it make sense to trap a woman into marrying you when she doesn't love you? Does it make sense to throw away everything and run to a man who is but a stranger to you? I believe not.
Now, coming to the home stretch of this reply, let's take a look at Prithvi's deewanapaan for Kripa. He knew very well that Angad and Kripa loved each other, but his love for Kripa led him to murder and finally to a silent life on a hospital bed. Kripa never sought to bring his life to a standstill; it was Prithvi who persisted in having Kripa despite knowing the truth! And Mishti was no different. She knew that Angad had always loved Kripa and he had never been hers. Yet, she let herself believe that he loved her.
Ladies and gentlemen, Mishti has come back to seek revenge against Angad and Kripa because they have ruined her and her brother's lives. But take a moment and reflect whether her revenge is justified. It is not. Mishti and Prithvi had dug their own pits and now they are forever trapped in them. Angad and Kripa had always loved each other and had never loved Mishti and Prithvi respectively. But Mishti had denied this truth, and Prithvi has manipulated it to become a lie. And what happened? They both suffered and they're still suffering. It is not Angad and Kripa's fault that Mishti and Prithvi did not understand their love for each other and had always tried to steal that love away. Therefore, Mishti coming back to seek revenge is unjustified, because it was she and her dear brother who were unwilling to accept the truth in the first place!
Good things happen to good people; the opposite holds truth too. Mishti and Prithvi did not do the right things and tried to obtain love they knew was never theirs and tried to obtain it through deceit! Nothing good can come from that, and not surprisingly, Mishti and Prithvi suffer because of their mistakes today still.

In conclusions, Mishti coming to seek revenge against Angad and Kripa is not at all justified.

Thank you
-Saadia

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Definitely i would agree that misty is justfied in her actions .....

Misty was among one of the few characters that was used on an on going basis ...Was that justified

Looking at mishty from the begining ...

Mishty was a girl that didnt let anyone affect her in a way...a very civil and modern girl ... who knew how to carry herself... she took life at ease ....and always stood up for wht was right ... and was dearly attached to her family ... Mishti infact roll bak was the first one to stand up for Kripa /Harshini.... then just because she took revenge now it makes her a bad person .. the revenge was taken on a right basis .... Mishti never had feelings for Angad in the begining it was until Naina aunty and Damini aunty said "Oh u like him .. u guys will make a good pair." Mishti was at a stage that if anyone would make a girl realize that their is somone u might look good with ... then yes ur perception about the person changes and u feel more attracted to them.... Angad being the Casanova at that time ... for him to dance with girls... flirt around wasnt a big thing ... it was like his day to day routine .... But for a girl like Mishti ... she saw that he was a good person at heart .... n Ofcourse she had the charm of his looks... anyone would fall for him .... Can she be blamed for that ?

Kripa Sharma: Meant nuttin but trouble for Mishti life...

Mishti was deeply attached to her brother.... if he smiled.. she smiled... if he cried ... she cried... Pirthvi was Mishti brother... best friend... a person who she could confide in ... to see ur own brother in pain .... who wouldnt go against that person..... Pirthvi was known to be the shy guy .... he for the first time liked a girl.... and Kripa i dont know if she was naive or was she too dumb... she did string him all along.... If we keep it on a sisters heart.. who would like it if there brother is being used.... Mishti was happy and cool with Kripa till Kripa broke off the engagement w prithvi in front of Everyone. ...Who would like their brother being humiliated in front of so many people .... even mishti thought kripa loved prithvi because she had written a letter bak to him- i know it was suppose to be harshni but .. mishti nor did Pirthvi know that the letter that prithvi sent to kripa went to harshni.... Then after having a solid evidence that the girl also likes ur brother n goes breaks her engagement not only.. the bose family was humilated in front of Kripa's parents but in front of the Khanna house too .... How can anyone bare so much insult ...Kripa had a built a wall between Mishti and Pirthvi...

What angered Misty was that even after Pirthvi going through so much ... he still meant well for that girl... even though he was hurt... he never wanted mishti to go against Kripa... and slowly slowly Pirthvi and Mishti grew apart of because of a girl... For Misthi that was a big blow ... because she was so close to her brother and girl from nainital comes n creates difference between a brother n sister who are so close.... Mishti -Angad.: Angad realized it late... that his image of a Casnova had to be washed out .... if he wanted to have a relationship with Kripa.. (Knock Knock think again now) .... anyways so What Angad did with Mishti was because he was so used to it .... he didnt think it was a wrong thing to do ..Mishti got signs from Angad - i.e when they were dancing on Are re... when he complimented her infront of Kripa... Sure he was trying to make Kripa jealous but indirectly he was stringing along Mishti ... who didnt know wht was going on ..... Second sign ... was when they were in goa... mishti aasked Angad to wear a vest that she liked... angad was like ok .. but he didnt really want to wear it ... but when ms sanskari came she picked it out ... he was like ok i will wear it ...but Mishti didnt see that .. When she saw angad wear the vest she was like he really likes me ....

Mishti anger towards Kripa grew more - when she saw that she couldnt see her brother smiling... who once used to have a smile on his face ... now has only loneliness painted everywhere ...... Mishti saw Kripa as a barrier... because she thought that Angad is giving her signs that He likes her... but First Kripa broke her brothers heart.. now she is taking away the person who Mishti has fallen in love with ... and presumably who loves her bak.... The 2 people who are dear to Mishti have been snatched away from her because of Kripa. ... Then after everything Angad-Mishti Engagement takes place... Mishti was on top of the world... because she got wht she wanted... but little did she know that Angad wasnt happy with the engagement ... Mishti was innocent ... she thought that he agreed to get engaged on his own will .... And the whole break up between A-K made her even moreagainst Kripa because She thought she also played Angad... and after using him ... threw him.... That was the turning point for Mishti .... Because 2 People who she really loved Where ruined because of Kripa.....

What was mishti fault.... did she deserve to be left at the alter the way Angad left her.... Kripa humilated Prithvi in front of 3 familes... Angad humilated Mishti in front of the whole Family.... Slowly everything kept slipping away from Mishti Hand... she lost her best friend... her brother... who wasnt happy for his own sisters marriage... who fought with his sister ... n sided with her instead of siding with his own blood .... he never got along with Angad ...who was mishti fiance.... There were cracks... there were tears... there was pain .... but there was no understanding between M-P left anymore.... When Angad left mishti ... did he ever look bak and say sorry ... this is one thing i never liked about Angad was that he used Mishti not once but twice for his own purposes... No one deserves to be crushed 2 times ... n get away with it....... Angad used Mishti to get bak at Kripa by first annocuing that he was going to get married to her ... and the next time he used mishiti to get bak at his sanskari lady love...Mishti wasnt a toy to be used and thrown away..she was a person ... a girl who was left with no one ... a brother nor a person who she loved... Yet again when Mishti finally found happiness with Zaib ... Kripa kept nagging about Zaib being Angad... and that pushed Mishti to the edge... and she rebelled against Kripa.... But her brother was their to protect her.... But when it was revealed that Zaib was Angad .... Mishti was shattered.... she broke Kartik heart... to get her heart broken yet once again .. by the same person who once left her at the mandap....

Mishti was torn by now... and All angad could do is repent on it ... Kripa came with her tears everytime ... please tell me whts wrong etc etc.... No one ever tried to think about mishti how she got hurt... Everyone saw howA-K got hurt but not the third party... Mishti was hurt from inside.... her tears said it all ... but no one was there to notice..... Mishti had finally accepted Kripa as Pirthvi wife but when she kept interefering with Zaib and when the whole truth was revealed about Angad - n wht does Kripa madam do ... she challenges Angad to be really his wife.. cuz she thought she couldnt work out her marriage with prithvi.... how easily she gave up on something called as a marriage...... N that was the end of Mishti taking anything from Kripa... cuz she was pushed to the edge now... hence when mishti left .... She left because she was hurt by the fact that brother still accepted a person who never loved him bak... she lost angad twice to the same lady.... she was used... n thrown away... does anyone really deserve this.... i dont think so ... Mishti never wanted to be near A-K.... the bose family wanted no relation with Kripa... it was due to A son and a brother ... who tied them down to Kripa... Had Kripa gone on a teer yatra.. then both A and Pirthvi would have been HAPPY...

If mishti came bak n took revenge... she rightfully had the right too ... cuz she had to stand up for her rights and make sure no one ever toyed with her any more .... or the would have to pay for the consequences .... Mishti came bak to India to take revenge on A-K because of wht they did with her in the past..... So wht if Angad didnt love Mishti ... it didnt give him the right to use other people... they have heart too.... A person who is used is crushed because then they r seen as a thing that can be used and thrown away... they were never accepted for the person who they really r..... One might only understand this feeling when it actually happens to them.. Some might stand up... some might take it with them.. and let the destiny play its game ... But for the people Who stand up .. the have the Fulll right.... because u cannot be seen as a ladder where u could climb the ladder n been put away cuz u dont need it anymore...

Ugh i forget to add

Supporting:Bose Family...

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Sana get welll soon.... 🤗

Hey Samia, the debate is coming to an end, so I just wanted to say job well done! You were an awesome person to debate against, and I hope we can do it again sometime! No matter what the outcome, I just want to say, I had a marvelous time debating with you and you have a way with words yaar! So here's to an rocking debate and a rocking fellow debator! 👏 👏 👏

May the best best debator win! Good luck Samia yaar! 😃 🤗

And most importantly, thank you Sana! Thank you for letting me debate this week and for providing us such wonderful, thought-provoking topics! They were truly enjoyable! I hope you feel better soon! and Happy Birthday once again! 😃 🤗

Awww, get well soon, Sana! 😭 😃

WOW......... Sami Di and Saadia, you guys are so convincing!! I don't know who to vote for 😆 Of course I think Mishty's revenge is completely justified, but Saadia did a great job (along with Samia Di!), so I dunno who to pick! 😃

Both of you are excellent debaters! 😛

i will counter ur argument here...

Not At Fault: Angad N Kripa are equally at Fault -

Kripa: she moved on with Pirthvi to take revenge on angad
She created difference between a brother n sister
She broke off the engagement with Prithvi twice...
She married Pirthvi for the reason of saving khanna family... more like using him as a pawn,,,
She never backed out of Mishti life when she was With Zaib... she was to busy thinking about her self...
She never trusted Angad but trusted prithvi.. she meant so ill for him that after she found wht he did to her... she turned out to be a cold heart girl... who couldnt see the tears of mother... there is something called as humanity .where did that all go

Angad:
Stringed mishti along ... i dont know for how long..
got engaged with her twice ...
left her at the mandap ... once...
used her to get bak at Kripa...
Never really loved her...
Gave her false signs.....

I think they both r responsible for the lifes of Mishti and Pirthvi. n have equal hand.... Where even Angad is at fault... no one deserves to be treated the way Mishti was treated

Kripa was never never in love with Angad khanna the person.. she was a small town girl who was head over heels in love with Angad khanna the rockstar.... she didnt even know the guy .. the how can she love him.. for loving someone u need to know hhow the person is .. in real.. wht r they dislikes .. likes.. sure u can get that off a magzine but do u know who this person is...

Ouch ouch u turned out to be a Casanova ... nahh u r not my type... i will play hard to get ... please... i mean u so called love isnt there.. cuz he didnt turn out like u expected him to be... Isnt love about not having any expectations... i guess then it wasnt love .....

Prithvi did confirm... the proof was the letter that he thought kripa sent him.. sure it was a misunderstanding but The proof that gave ahead Prithvi that kripa was really in love with him.. if she was the small town innocent girl that everyone thought ... then naturally prithvi would think the same cuz she might not be able to express her feelings so she did it through a letter...sure it was for harshni but Pirthvi was always under the impression that was kripa.... Kripa was the one who used prithvi as a puppet... she gave him clues that she scared about Pirthvi .. n Pirthvi wasnt experienced to know that what Kripa meant by her actions... he looked at the girls innocence.. and took her a person who is was n introvert and couldnt explain her feelings...

How should he know that girl is to hands Ahead... that innocent Small town girll... is way ahead of the game.... Nobody can blame prithvi in the start because it wasnt his mistake.... He stood by kripa through thick and thin.... BUT after josh murder i hated him ... before that... If a guy/girl would treat me like The way kripa did ... i would throw him off the cliff... there is a limit to take things from ppl .. but after that .... u cannot take it...But prithvi ... after been left alone still helped kripa.... turned against his own family for her.... Pirthvi loves... turned into obsession ... it was wrong .. but the guy had kept all the sorrow within him - n the end result was that

One cannot blame Naina aunty actions on Mishti... she was all innocent about it ... she even after the sangeet asked angad.... but angad usually brushed it off..... Misthi didnt left herself believe that she was in lov... Angad made her believe..... he got engaged to her... flirted around w her... . Had he been so strong.. he would have accepted mishti at the alter.. not make fun of her in front of the whole world.... Can u blame a girl to make a guy 4get his past that too it was Kripa who toyed with her own brothers life... broke off the engagement... Mishti didnt know that whole truth ... she was blind folded as much as Angad was ..... She thought kripa used n played with the 2 people who she really loved..... Anyone would like to make the person they love 4get wht had happend if u see it from their way.... Bottom Line.. is that Mishti/Pirthvi were both used by Angad and Kripa for their own purposes... (My argument did state some of them ) When one agrees that she was a bait ... then how can one tell that they r not at fault.... She loved Angad with all her heart... she was a reflection of him in Zaib... Why would mishti marry a guy who she didnt love... A Guy who 4got her own birthday ... A guy for who at that time Business meant more importance....

Mishty Came bak for revenge for being used so many times.. n just by saying sorry wont make it up.... The revenge was for ruining her life... her brothers life... Angad and Kripa used both of them.. to get bak with each other... (There is no love their) No girl.. deserves to be used the way they used Mishti... not once .. not twice but more then a couple of times....

Mishti was torn between the 2 people who she dearly loved... and lost both of them eventually ... But the Sole reason was Kripa ... cuz the circumstances. did point it towards her....What mishti did was stand up for herself.. her rights... and her self respect.... she made everyone sure that no one will ever take advantage of her..... N her actions were justified.... cuz u let the world use to many times... then u be a machine for them......