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Originally posted by: psawyer

Winnie, while I agree that rape by definition cannot be made sensitive, it is the treatment aftermath of the rape - what happens next - that I disagree with.

As for this issue about TV serials "empowering" real women to come forward - I don't think that is necessariy true. In real life, not every rape victim has a Parvati or Tulsi to fight for them. In real life, women don't murder their sons for raping ther d-i-l's or if they do, they get sent to jail. In real life, rape trials go on for years and years and years and even after that there is no guarantee that the vitim will get justice. Rich men can use their power, status and money to get out of anything.

This is what bothers me - Ekta's portrayal of rape and rape victims is not real! Why not show a poor girl fighting for herself, without any support? Because it doesn't exactly rake in the moolah. Prerna's "Mother India" dialogues during the rape track in KZK were hardhitting and extremely enjoyable to watch. That doesn't mean that we enjoyed the rape track, or the rape itself. But if Prerna wasn't there, people would not respond to that track, and that is the sad truth. What about that show Kavita, in which the rape issue was handled more delicately? It was appreciated because of its empowering message, but it didn't tickle the TRPs.

Originally posted by: psawyer

Winnie, while I agree that rape by definition cannot be made sensitive, it is the treatment aftermath of the rape - what happens next - that I disagree with.

As for this issue about TV serials "empowering" real women to come forward - I don't think that is necessariy true. In real life, not every rape victim has a Parvati or Tulsi to fight for them. In real life, women don't murder their sons for raping ther d-i-l's or if they do, they get sent to jail. In real life, rape trials go on for years and years and years and even after that there is no guarantee that the vitim will get justice. Rich men can use their power, status and money to get out of anything.

This is what bothers me - Ekta's portrayal of rape and rape victims is not real! Why not show a poor girl fighting for herself, without any support? Because it doesn't exactly rake in the moolah. Prerna's "Mother India" dialogues during the rape track in KZK were hardhitting and extremely enjoyable to watch. That doesn't mean that we enjoyed the rape track, or the rape itself. But if Prerna wasn't there, people would not respond to that track, and that is the sad truth. What about that show Kavita, in which the rape issue was handled more delicately? It was appreciated because of its empowering message, but it didn't tickle the TRPs.

Well said Vasu 👏 👏

Originally posted by: psawyer

Winnie, while I agree that rape by definition cannot be made sensitive, it is the treatment aftermath of the rape - what happens next - that I disagree with.

As for this issue about TV serials "empowering" real women to come forward - I don't think that is necessariy true. In real life, not every rape victim has a Parvati or Tulsi to fight for them. In real life, women don't murder their sons for raping ther d-i-l's or if they do, they get sent to jail. In real life, rape trials go on for years and years and years and even after that there is no guarantee that the vitim will get justice. Rich men can use their power, status and money to get out of anything.

This is what bothers me - Ekta's portrayal of rape and rape victims is not real! Why not show a poor girl fighting for herself, without any support? Because it doesn't exactly rake in the moolah. Prerna's "Mother India" dialogues during the rape track in KZK were hardhitting and extremely enjoyable to watch. That doesn't mean that we enjoyed the rape track, or the rape itself. But if Prerna wasn't there, people would not respond to that track, and that is the sad truth. What about that show Kavita, in which the rape issue was handled more delicately? It was appreciated because of its empowering message, but it didn't tickle the TRPs.

Hi Vasu.😃 Agree with ur post to an extent and disagree on certain points too...😳 ur absolutely correct when u say that not every woman has a Parvati or Tulsi to fight for her... and in reality, no mother would ever turn against her rapist son 🤢or shoot him or send him to jail... I totally agree with u on that...👏 but don't u think that these very points that are shown in the serials are the positive points???👏👏👏 When Ekta shows Parvati or Tulsi doing this, it may be unrealistic...but its something that should actually be happening...👏I think she potrays women in a very strong light in that sense... it is Unfortunately not realistic... she is probably trying to show what should be...👏 not what it is!!! I know yaar... how long such cases go on in reality and what 'justice' is finally meted out to a victim... 😭there is no such thing as 'justice' for a woman in India and being an Indian woman I know that as well yaar...😭 but instead of taking this all be it unrealistic potrayal so negatively, can't we take it positively? 😳Believe me, when Tulsi got Ansh jailed for Nandini's rape...it was and always will be one of the highlights of Kyunki for me... let it be unrealistic... I don't mind it as long as the show a woman taking charge of another woman who is a victim and fighting for justice.👏 I'd much rather watch something unrealistic that is at least inspiring as compared to watching the reality I already know exists... that women are used, abused and then left to society's 'mercy'...🤢 that is reality...🤢 but hey, if this unrealistic but positive potrayal manages to change even one person's mindset... I'm all for it...👏 As for TRP's, well at the end of the day, its a fictitious serial and Ekta is doing her business... so I'm not holding it againt her...😃 but yeah, I'll say this about Ekta...😃 she has never downgraded women or potrayed them as mere objects ever...👏 her women are the strongest u will ever see...👏 be it for Trp's or anything... Ekta has never potrayed women poorly and I appreciate and respect her for this...👏 and as I said yaar... if a rape brings in TRP's maybe its time the Indian audience hangs themselves...🤢 I'm all for such tracks as long as they are showing women in a strong light.👏 As for Kasauti and Kavita... I've never watched an episode of either... so can't comment... but yeah, Kavita I think was an old Ekta soap too... so if she handled it sensitively there, I'm sure it will be the same here, touchwood... 😳 Believe me, even if its unrealistic... 😉I'd rather watch Parvati kick that🤬 Pranay's u know what and toss him into a stinking jail...🤢 rather than watch a harsh reality where no one supports Maithali 😭and she spends her life with her rapist husband due to social pressures...🤢 as for a poor girl fighting against the system...👏 u know yaar, in all honesty that would be the most unrealistic scenario...😭things are that bad in reality...😭 and hey yaar... think positively...😳 remember the Khushi rape track in Kahaani... that was even more sensitive coz the victim was a blind girl... 😭and that was one of best potryals of the fight against a rapist ever...👏 Parvati even turned against Om... something she would never have done under most circumstances...😳 but when it came to the question of a girl's self respect and pride...😳 Parvati had even blown Om away... 👏truly yaar, if that's unrealistic, I love it...😳 and want to see more of it... 😃waiting for my Fiery Eyes's reply today... 😳

Originally posted by: winner13

As for TRP's, well at the end of the day, its a fictitious serial and Ekta is doing her business... so I'm not holding it againt her...😃 but yeah, I'll say this about Ekta...😃 she has never downgraded women or potrayed them as mere objects ever...👏 her women are the strongest u will ever see...👏 be it for Trp's or anything... Ekta has never potrayed women poorly and I appreciate and respect her for this...👏 and as I said yaar...

Originally posted by: india

bottom line is that this is totally disgusting and Ekta is insulting Indian culture. I really hope that someone goes to Ekta's studio and slap her. I totally disagree and i am sure millions of women out there disagree to show something like this on national television. it's sick and totally gross.
what does it mean when Pranay said man can go out and sleep with another man, it's ok but if woman goes it's not ok, please give me a little break.. who gave the man right to go and sleep with another woman while he is married.
gosh please someone take those photos out from yesterday's show, it's looking sick.

i don't think she showed anything, which doesn't exist in indian culture... whatever pranay said... that's what most of south asian men think

Originally posted by: sidsk

Juls: u saw it,huh??..........Even i still havent recovered from it.Tht scene keeps repeating in my head. There was no bloody need for all this.They could have taken this love triangle in a totally diferent way if they wanted to.There was no need for all this violence.