Being the Devil's Advocate here - Page 2

Originally posted by: KaranSG_01

I completely agree. People just have a different perspective and it's not necessary that for one person to be right the other person has to be wrong. And vice versa. Just because one person is wrong doesn't make the other person right. I think in the showa everyone is taking decisions in anger and everyone is making mistake and everyone is wrong here in some way or the other. In a way I like it that the makers are giving their characters the freedom of making mistakes but the harsh truth of life is that you can't run away from your mistakes. Even if you are right 99 out of 100 times, that one mistake gets to you. You are not forgiven for that mistake. The people, society or universe doesn't let that mistake slip away and you have to bear the brunt of it. Like how Sonakshi is paying for her mistakes right now and how I think Rohit is going to pay for his mistakes.

Rohit did not do any mistake as of now .suspecting Sona is not a mistake .Sona herself gave that circumstances to suspect her

If he sends Sona out of home in anger yes it's a mistake

Originally posted by: mthiru

Beautiful post. Agree with all the points you brought up. Like you said there is no Rohit vs Sona because both of them love each other their own way. They will come together. It's amazing to see how the makers making no one is right now wrong completely..

Lol makers r showing Sona holier than thou and trying to get sympathy on her ..and showing all other as bad ..typical mahaan FL

Originally posted by: KaranSG_01

I am not going to talk much about either Veena or Suman. Both these women were wrong. Veena with her crass and mysogynistic remarks over a girl while even her son was at wrong and Suman for bringing out this entire personal matter infront of strangers. They both lacked in their upbringing and are too much of a hypocrite to even realise that.

I am not supporting Pari and I think she is downright disgusting and selfish but I don't think money is the reason why she was with Rohan. I think she was attracted to him and didn't care for anything else. Atmost she might have been interested in the roles he promised her. Not saying she is right but her reasons were different.

Coming to Sona and Rohit. Yes Sonakshi has been wrong with many things in the recent past. She was wrong in hiding the entire blackmailing episode from Rohit, she was wrong in hiding about Ajit. She was wrong. But her being wrong doesn't make Rohit right. I am not even saying Rohit is wrong in questioning or doubting her about Naren's truth. He has all the reasons to think that Sona informed Suman about it. No matter how much he trusts Sona, at such time anyone will lose control. And Rohit is a kind of character who cannot handle emotions and let his anger get better of him. I have mentioned this in one of my comments on this forum earlier today. I am not holding onto Rohit's anger about Naren and Pooja's issue but his reaction about Pari and Rohan was anything but right. He didn't have to raise those questions at Sona, he didn't have to continue saying tumhari family as if she is the one responsible for all that's going wrong, he didn't have to react the way he did when Sona mentioned that Rohan was at fault as well. And he certainly had no right to say pyaar mein andha hoke aisi family se rishta jod Lia. Sona was clear that both Rohan and Pari are at fault...even Tanya didn't blame Sona even once in all this. Tanya, Veena, Deepa...all of them could have easily blamed Sona but they didn't. This is my issue with Rohit. Not anything about his reaction on Naren and Pooja's truth but on Pari and Rohan's issue. And as for saying no one values what Sonakshi said...yes what he said was right but imagine you confide into someone about something, something that the other person knows is a bitter truth which has the ability to hurt you and during a fight the person throws the same thing at you. How would you feel? That's what Rohit did when he told Sonakshi no one values what she says.

I know Rohit loves Sonakshi and will support her even in future like he has done in past. But all the right things he did or will do cannot make this wrong action of his right in any way.

CV intention is to show Sona as mahaan and so they will tarnish all characters Veena suman rohith ..this is the prob of these type of typical mahaan shows

I don't understand how Sona is being shown mahaan to be honest... Mhtare thing happened in the beginning, proving that Sona would keep even a stranger's reputation over hers because she has seen the humiliations and doesn't wanna let anyone else go through them.. With Ajeet, she is doing exactly what Rohit did with Park, despite Pari's mistake nearly causing Pooja's suicide.. So how is Sona mahaan alone? Either both husband wife are or neither of them is..

Nice post..

Well the wise thing in this scenario would be to wait till Tanya's exhibition was over and question Ronan first .

Wiser would be to let sona deal with pari and her family on her own instead of barging into rastogis house and slapping pari..

The wisest thing would be that both families take Rohan and pari to task face to face .

Worse was veena saying all that to pari and rohit , instead of understanding that sona isnt at fault for this, he called his marriage a mistake . Bec "her" family is after "his" ..worse was sona hiding thr ajit blackmail episode from rohit..worse was veena declaring that rastogis wont step in sippy mansion n then saying love you 5 crs🤢

Wth was that 🤢 if she didn't let Rohan and now naren to not step in there ,I will applaud her..

Worst was suman humiliating sippys in public. I loved her showing sippys a mirror and prove veena that her happy perfect family is a farce ...but this could have been done in private too...but since this is a serial, I just take it as a mere dramatization coz if suman was present at her home when pari was slapped , this scene would have been played out then and there, not at sippy mansion..but mannn she was on fire 😆 Mrs sonakshi sippy dr rohit sippy 😆 enough of sippys enjoying their high moral ground , they had to be brought down..

As.far as rohit and sona go, the moment rohit will know about ajit , he will feel apologetic , he will come around...I wished he stood by sona and talked to her instead of blaming her ..the storm shall pass but Rohan and pari r now unstoppable ..so more pain for sona..

Originally posted by: cutepigs

I don't understand how Sona is being shown mahaan to be honest... Mhtare thing happened in the beginning, proving that Sona would keep even a stranger's reputation over hers because she has seen the humiliations and doesn't wanna let anyone else go through them.. With Ajeet, she is doing exactly what Rohit did with Park, despite Pari's mistake nearly causing Pooja's suicide.. So how is Sona mahaan alone? Either both husband wife are or neither of them is..

You are right. In mahtre track, she goes to extreme level to save stranger like Pooja from scandal.Now, Pooja is her SIL. So, she will go any extreme for Pooja in future. In Ajith case, it is same as Rohit hiding Pari truth in Pooja adoption case. Both are hiding these secrets of others siblings. Both Rohit and Sona are either right or wrong in both cases.So, Sona is not Mahaan here, she thinks from heart.

I agree

I dont know why rohit is getting bashed for storming on sonakshi. He was right in his own place. Suman is crossing all the limits now. First the dowry thing then pari and now she just revealed sippy 's secret infront of the whole world.

Originally posted by: cutepigs

I don't understand how Sona is being shown mahaan to be honest... Mhtare thing happened in the beginning, proving that Sona would keep even a stranger's reputation over hers because she has seen the humiliations and doesn't wanna let anyone else go through them.. With Ajeet, she is doing exactly what Rohit did with Park, despite Pari's mistake nearly causing Pooja's suicide.. So how is Sona mahaan alone? Either both husband wife are or neither of them is..

Did Rohit hide pari issue from suman..no ..he only hid from Sona and pari issue back then was a petty revenge issue as far as Rohit is concerned .he does not know about affair then .so he left it to suman and himself

Here ajit issue is a severe gambling issue which needs to be known to rohith asap ..family treasured secret is in hands of a mafia gambler and Sona is not letting Rohit know about it or to any sippy family member

Both are not same ajit issue if not revealed Sona will be blamed

Pari issue back then if not revealed ..Sona is getting blamed but not rohith ..remember it

Yes Sona is mahaan.accordung to CV thats why she is not revealing ajit issue and will foolishly take the blame on herself

Originally posted by: cutepigs

I would probably not sound good, especially after reading this forum today, but I am not sure I agree with anyone saying Suman is right or Rohit is wrong..

Hear me out.. Starting at the beginning: The exhibition was Tanya wanting to expose Rohan, she later lost her strength when she got proof as it broke her, but she kept the exhibition, not anyone else. Then Ajeeth telling Suman everything isnt something anyone could have predicted, especially since nobody but Sona knows that Ajeeth even knows anything, just like only Rohit knew about Pari telling about Pooja till Pari herself confessed.. Yes, Veena was wrong in saying girls like Pari go behind rich guys, but if you see the earlier episodes, that is exactly what Pari did, though even Rohan did the exact same thing, a pretty girl and he started chasing her, but it's not like either of them had true love on their minds when they chased the other.. I think they are both cheap, and honestly, both mothers have gone wrong in their upbringing there.. Sona used to warn her so many times and I remember her mother telling her that Pari has bigger dreams and better paths than her being a small time tv actress, in fact she encouraged Pari to talk to the "mystery rich guy" as he can get her movies.

Now moving to Rohit and Sona... How was Rohit wrong in questioning Sona if anyone listened to her in that house? That is exactly the truth. He has seen her mother insult her and she herself had confessed to Rohit that her mother always pushes her buttons and she is never able to stand up for herself.. She only stood up for Rohit that first time and then also her mother had taunted her enough that Pulki had to make her eat food.. Sona has been trying to warn her mother for so long about Pari, and yet her mother keeps pushing Pari to do whatever she wants to get into films.. Not only is that telling Pari she can do whatever, but she also insults Sona's work herself so many times, she only loves the money she gets with that, to the extent of lying to Sona and taking money for hospital appearances in the first place also...

As for Sona slapping Pari, are we seriously calling her a doormat for that? she just found out that her sister not only leake a sensitive matter to press for her revenge, but also has been sleeping with her sister's married brother in law along side.. literally a day after her mother, who she told she'll explain why she took the money, came to her house and insulted her mil and husband for taking dowry from her, again whatever Sona said, didnt matter in that house..

I can sort of understand Rohit's question to Sona that is about to come, according to him she is the only one who knew apart from the people who kept that secret and his logical brain will take that leap before his heart catches him, the same happened in the malfunction case, the logic drawn was more blatantly clear to him than the fact that he had understood her a bit by then.. It isnt him being a chauvinist or mummy's boy, it's how he has always been, and his jump is something any human will take... Rohit was nice enough to call his mil and ask her to come home, while apologizing for a mistake he didnt make, in fact his mil only made, despite that his mother didnt want her there, so how was that a mommy's boy?

I feel this show is just showing too many twists and turns and resolving them too quickly than what the audience is used to, and that's what's making us all jump to conclusions.. I havent found any situation that has made me personally feel like my mother wont have done it had she been in Sona's place, and I know my mother is no Parvati.. I agree a few things are regressive, but if we remember the conversation around sarees, Sona was clear that she wants that TV serial family where everyone loves her, so her giving up her job, makes sense in her brain, in her character.. She yearned for this life where she has a family, earlier she only had Pulki..

Sorry if someone felt bad.. I just dont think one person needs to be wrong for another to be right.. There can be two people fighting each other and yet both be right or both be wrong..

Hello...Agree that Suman should not have disclosed things in a party in front of guests but however stupid this may sound..It is actually fiction/serial ....they just did that to create more drama ...in serials drama is created in any way...like in this serial there are too many twists and suspense tracks ...so if Suman would have just shouted in Sippy mansion In front of family members ..it would not have created so much Hungama ...forgetting that premise part (as yes it could have been done behind closed doors) what she did/her reaction...does not seem to be wrong ,considering her nature and behaviour (Infact I hated her initially ...she was literally the vamp) but if you observe with time they have changed her completely...they turned her to a more understanding caring mother who is strict due to circumstances...she used to adore Pari in initial episodes but later they have showed her confronting Pari multiple times ...she has even been shown to have questioned Pari abt Rohan and objecting to her calling him aswell to her job with Rohan (about which Pari lied) ...so Suman now is not the Suman we saw in initial episodes...having said that she is still the loud short tempered Suman..who calls a spade a spade and vents out her frustration ...she is not at all like Sonakshi Infact Sonakshi is shown to be completely opposite (too much of sacrifice)...not required aswell....so if we just consider this Suman we know comes to know that her daughter has been abused aswell as her upbringing is questioned, in her absence ...her reaction is obvious ...not that Pari is right or that the accusation is unexpected or honestly even questionable (though upbringing part is wrong as not all actions of children can be related to parents upbringing so ppl should be careful saying that ) but now Suman who understood that can be angry and can say all that ....again question is who said all that to Pari...Veena Sippy...now look at the traits here..this lady is from the start shown to be calm patient caring ....completely opposite of Suman...suddenly she loses her cool...again that is completely natural and acceptable but while she goes all the way to Goregaon to abuse Pari why can’t she confront her son first or then even Talk to him later...isnt this double standards ...if you are so very high profile and classic (as you call yourself) then why don’t you think fir a second about what to do next and while you are questioning someone’s upbringing for an affair you yourself should not forget that the other person involved is your son...so what abt your upbringing or your son’s character ...and for that matter she is not even aware that her son is a Casanova (Suman mentions that aswell)...Pari is not his only connection, he has had multiple affairs not even known to anyone in the family...Rohan’s affair they realised abt this affair maybe as Pari was involved ...others they hardly even know ....so without finding any details to shout at someone else is not justified....

and Veena Sippy herself is not even knowing what is happening in her family..one son is a gambler ..other is characterless....husband has a illegitimate child....nothing is known to her...and she questions someone else...in contrast to that Suman is a single mother and except Pari both children are shown to be good calm sensible understanding ...so whose upbringing becomes questionable...Suman will speak out right as she is the target here......that reaction for a lady like Suman (who according to us is loud and whose nature is similiar) is not a surprise ...plus Suman is already frustrated with Sippies due to Sona’s resignation ...other problems due to her fil...and Suman also does not really like Veena after the encounter with her ...then she comes to know abt this entire fiasco caused by the Sippies and Sonakshi’s standing strong for her husband’s family...as I said in another forum not to forget that while it is Sippy family of 10 12 members here ...Suman is all alone ...her daughter not supporting her can be the final blow for her...again agree that she should have understood Sonakshi’s perspective as she can’t take sides but then she also is hurt and If we understand her perspective don’t think she is in a position to think normal right now...plus Sonakshi always is shown siding with her mil ....

Sonakshi’s sacrifice is honestly too much to bear...that ‘I will bear it all attitude’ is little irritating ..hiding things day in and day out...and now tell me is her hiding Ajith’s issue acceptable ...whatever Ajit has told her isn’t this a big thing and should Rohit not know abt it however Ajith does not want him to know so Sonakshi is quiet...why ....it is not a small thing...Ajith is a gambler and Sonakshi has withdrawn 1cr of her hard earned money for him...should she not tell Rohit ...should she not not have told him abt the calls..should she not have told him multiple things in the past ..same for Rohit aswell..why are they all time hiding things...and everytime this backfires still the same ...even before this they have shown them hiding something from the other...which later even has created major fiasco....still they just keep showing Same thing...instead why can’t she be shown wise enough to take correct decisions....why can’t she have an identity ...and stop following things for others no matter how wrong they are ...with the heart why can’t she use her mind ...and heart also should be used for all not few ppl ...too much goodness is irritating as is too much of bad behaviour...sometimes a balance is required atleast sometimes ....so just feel this time Suman’s behaviour is justified and Sona’s is not ..

Originally posted by: Reshmi.parekh78

Hello...Agree that Suman should not have disclosed things in a party in front of guests but however stupid this may sound..It is actually fiction/serial ....they just did that to create more drama ...in serials drama is created in any way...like in this serial there are too many twists and suspense tracks ...so if Suman would have just shouted in Sippy mansion In front of family members ..it would not have created so much Hungama ...forgetting that premise part (as yes it could have been done behind closed doors) what she did/her reaction...does not seem to be wrong ,considering her nature and behaviour (Infact I hated her initially ...she was literally the vamp) but if you observe with time they have changed her completely...they turned her to a more understanding caring mother who is strict due to circumstances...she used to adore Pari in initial episodes but later they have showed her confronting Pari multiple times ...she has even been shown to have questioned Pari abt Rohan and objecting to her calling him aswell to her job with Rohan (about which Pari lied) ...so Suman now is not the Suman we saw in initial episodes...having said that she is still the loud short tempered Suman..who calls a spade a spade and vents out her frustration ...she is not at all like Sonakshi Infact Sonakshi is shown to be completely opposite (too much of sacrifice)...not required aswell....so if we just consider this Suman we know comes to know that her daughter has been abused aswell as her upbringing is questioned, in her absence ...her reaction is obvious ...not that Pari is right or that the accusation is unexpected or honestly even questionable (though upbringing part is wrong as not all actions of children can be related to parents upbringing so ppl should be careful saying that ) but now Suman who understood that can be angry and can say all that ....again question is who said all that to Pari...Veena Sippy...now look at the traits here..this lady is from the start shown to be calm patient caring ....completely opposite of Suman...suddenly she loses her cool...again that is completely natural and acceptable but while she goes all the way to Goregaon to abuse Pari why can’t she confront her son first or then even Talk to him later...isnt this double standards ...if you are so very high profile and classic (as you call yourself) then why don’t you think fir a second about what to do next and while you are questioning someone’s upbringing for an affair you yourself should not forget that the other person involved is your son...so what abt your upbringing or your son’s character ...and for that matter she is not even aware that her son is a Casanova (Suman mentions that aswell)...Pari is not his only connection, he has had multiple affairs not even known to anyone in the family...Rohan’s affair they realised abt this affair maybe as Pari was involved ...others they hardly even know ....so without finding any details to shout at someone else is not justified....

and Veena Sippy herself is not even knowing what is happening in her family..one son is a gambler ..other is characterless....husband has a illegitimate child....nothing is known to her...and she questions someone else...in contrast to that Suman is a single mother and except Pari both children are shown to be good calm sensible understanding ...so whose upbringing becomes questionable...Suman will speak out right as she is the target here......that reaction for a lady like Suman (who according to us is loud and whose nature is similiar) is not a surprise ...plus Suman is already frustrated with Sippies due to Sona’s resignation ...other problems due to her fil...and Suman also does not really like Veena after the encounter with her ...then she comes to know abt this entire fiasco caused by the Sippies and Sonakshi’s standing strong for her husband’s family...as I said in another forum not to forget that while it is Sippy family of 10 12 members here ...Suman is all alone ...her daughter not supporting her can be the final blow for her...again agree that she should have understood Sonakshi’s perspective as she can’t take sides but then she also is hurt and If we understand her perspective don’t think she is in a position to think normal right now...plus Sonakshi always is shown siding with her mil ....

Sonakshi’s sacrifice is honestly too much to bear...that ‘I will bear it all attitude’ is little irritating ..hiding things day in and day out...and now tell me is her hiding Ajith’s issue acceptable ...whatever Ajit has told her isn’t this a big thing and should Rohit not know abt it however Ajith does not want him to know so Sonakshi is quiet...why ....it is not a small thing...Ajith is a gambler and Sonakshi has withdrawn 1cr of her hard earned money for him...should she not tell Rohit ...should she not not have told him abt the calls..should she not have told him multiple things in the past ..same for Rohit aswell..why are they all time hiding things...and everytime this backfires still the same ...even before this they have shown them hiding something from the other...which later even has created major fiasco....still they just keep showing Same thing...instead why can’t she be shown wise enough to take correct decisions....why can’t she have an identity ...and stop following things for others no matter how wrong they are ...with the heart why can’t she use her mind ...and heart also should be used for all not few ppl ...too much goodness is irritating as is too much of bad behaviour...sometimes a balance is required atleast sometimes ....so just feel this time Suman’s behaviour is justified and Sona’s is not ..

Sona is the root cause of all prob happening now .in order for her in her mind to be a mahaan she is doing things and they r back firing

If she had not resigned her job ..not withdrawn 1 cr today suman would not have lost her cool so bad

Veena upbringing is rotten to core with all support and money she has .. only rohith is good ..other two are scummiest to scums where as only pari is bad ..being single mom struggling to survive