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Posted: 15 years ago
You kow, one thing I like about Padma's character is that she's consistent. She's not at one extreme, and then suddenly at the next extreme, as it seems to be the norm with most TV characters.
For example Kadambari from PKCM, who was the epitome of a positive character, a good mother, and not a single bad thought in her head, who after one incident, turns evil and vindictive. After the next incident she'll turn good again.
Padma has always been like this with Jyoti, a bit of hot and cold, and no matter what happened, like Jyoti fixing Deepu's marriage, or what, Padma will always be like that to her. Push her aside for her own children and use her for money.
I find her so frustrating sometimes with her attitude, but you can predict it now. You aren't surprised with her.
Bhairavi is a little like that too, but I dislike her on principle
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Posted: 15 years ago

No, there has been enough inconsistency in Padma's character, which has unfortunately contributed to both Jyoti & Sudha continuing to recognize and regard her as a mother, when they ought to know better.

Like after Jyoti returned from her honeymoon, and her insult from Padma was still fresh, Padma called her for the phag phere rasam and apologized, and Jyoti, being the idiot that she was and is, accepted it. Then, on the rakhi occasion, when Sushma started making snide remarks about Jyoti's car, Padma verbally bashed her, surprising everybody, including Jyoti & Sudha. This contributed to both Jyoti & Sudha thinking that Padma had changed, and wished well of them.
Then Padma changed back during the Ganesh festival, when she bad-mouthed the Vashisths on their riches to Jyoti, while confronting her on keeping Sushma's activities a secret. Then, when confronting Sushma, she warned her that if her activities continued, she'd stop regarding her as her daughter, and consider herself the mom of only 2 daughters. Since when did she really consider either Jyoti or Sudha her daughters?
Then again, when Jyoti was kicked out and initially declined to return home, Padma was among the loudest offended that she thought of her maayka as a stranger's place. And once she did move in, Padma was back to complaining that Deepu would have to support both of them.
In fact, the biggest contrast in Padma's character is on her class envy aspect. When they had a relationship w/ the Vashisths courtesy Jyoti, Padma hated them, and not just Bhairavi: whenever Uday took Sudha out on dates, Padma never failed to make snide remarks about him and his family. When she confronted Bhairavi, she didn't fail to give her a speech about the poor and their rishtas and izzats. But now, when it's the Trivedis, she's magically turned from a Labor class to a Laizzez Faire lady - contemplating making pastas @ home, tipping the guy that the Trivedis have sent w/ fruits, et al. Also, any normal person will think more highly of Uday than of Poonam, but while Padma always disdained Uday, and now only reluctantly admires him, she's turned a blind eye not just to Poonam's shortcomings such as cooking, but also towards her bad behavior. When Uday took Sudha out to expensive restaurants, she had her snide remarks about it, but when Poonam took Deepu to the mall and back and Sushma tried to badmouth her, Padma shut her up promptly. 😆😆😆 One might argue that Padma hates Jyoti's/Sudha's in-laws, while loving Deepu's (and had Sushma had in-laws like the Trivedis, rather than Brij, she'd have been chummy w/ them as well).
Had Padma been consistently mean towards Jyoti, as Bhairavi had been, Jyoti would have stood up to her. With Bhairavi, now that her marriage is over, she finally has. So why can't she do it w/ Padma? If Padma expects her to pay for Poonam's honeymoon, she needs to back Jyoti when Poonam complains about 2nd class tickets, or desist from asking Jyoti to bankroll Poonam's luxuries. When Padma tells Sushma to wear what Sudha is wearing, the latter should just ignore it, instead of feeling pressured.
Both Jyoti & Sudha need to stop calling or treating Padma as their mom. It's high time!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
A couple of interesting things happened today that are worth mentioning, aside from the divorce hearings.

First, Sushma's conversation w/ Dadi on how the latter raised Kamal - Dadi told her that she had studied only until class 7, yet thruout this serial, Dadi seemed more educated than Sushma. Dadi also mentioned how KK's dad died when he was pretty young. But in a past episode on Sudha's phag-phere rasam when KK was selling his sports medal, they showed him having flashbacks of his dad congratulating him, and in that, he seemed to be a pre-teen.

Then, that scene b/w Padma & KK. Truly, this woman is shameless: a few days ago, Poonam, instead of gratitude, declined the honeymoon ticket b'cos it was 2nd class, and now, Padma wants to upgrade it? What if Mahesh-ji wants her to take a flight instead, and that too to a more expensive destinition, like Goa? It's not like Jyoti didn't have other expenses that couldn't have been addressed in the interim. Since Jyoti is already stretched, Padma now wants to take (not even borrow) money from Sudha. How shameless - this is a family that even Padma doesn't think she has a relationship w/, but she thinks nothing about taking cash from them? What if Bhairavi one day rubs it in and tells her that her household is running thanks to the charity of the Vashisth parivar, just as she wants to do w/ Jyoti, but can't?

I just wish KK would forget his stupid no-sautera philosophy, and ban Padma from talking to Jyoti or Sudha - all she does is get them into trouble.
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Posted: 15 years ago
I can't believe Padma suggested that they ask Sudha for money.
Where will Sudha get money? From her husband, who is from the same family she hates and curses so much.
But she's shameless enough to ask Sudha for funds.
If her maharani bahu can't travel by 2nd class, then she can very well find the funds herself to go in AC class on her honeymoon
Padma really has surpassed all boundries of shamelessness (if that's even a word)
As for the previous discussion about Padma being consistent, what I meant Virsha was that no matter what happens, that even if she's good to Jyoti for a while, she will come right back to square one and put her children first, in front of Jyoti and Sudha, in any given situation.
She's not one of those characters that has a dramatic 180 degree flip of attitude towards Jyoti and goes from completely positive to comlpetely negative
No matter what happens, no matter what good Jyoti does (like saving her daughter and salvaging her son's life) she will always find fault in Jyoti and use Jyoti as a scapegoat, but will still be civil to Jyoti. She is consistent that way
Yuks
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Posted: 15 years ago
In today's (Mar 17) episode, they showed more of Neelam, and filled in some of the mystery about her.

Neelam pretty much revealed that after Uday had 'dumped' her, she did find another guy who supported her, and didn't appreciate being forced to marry a blind divorcee Pankaj. Her mom tells her that her dad's financial situation is not good, and therefore, the Vashisths are their gateway out of this mess. Wowwwwww!!!! This is almost like in the new Imagine serial Jamuniya, where the girl's mama/mami are now out to sell her. This sounded fishy the first time Kesav-ji mentioned this to Bhairavi - that due to Uday standing her up, Neelam was unable to find anybody. Now, it turns out to be an outright lie, and I'll now guess that Kesav-ji knew about it as much as Neelam's parents did. One thing - if Neelam's dad is so hard pressed, how does he have Rs 1 crore to offer Jyoti if she signs off on Pankaj's divorce?

Two things - one that Jyoti was alleged by Brij, and thought by Pankaj/CM to have married for the money. Well, that's what Neelam's parents are trying to do - sponge off her would-be in-laws to get them out of this mess. And they are conveniently using Minal's sasural to pull this off. Yeah, it's poetic justice what's happening to CM & Pankaj, 🤣 but I can't help feeling sorry for Mahendranath-ji & Uday, who've made this money. 😆😆

The other thing - that Jyoti was alleged to have taken advantage of Pankaj's blindness to date Brij on the side. Well, that's exactly what Neelam plans to do, in exchange for such a condition. She will continue dating the guy who stood by her. What I hope she does is have a registered marriage w/ him, so that she can claim him as a hubby @ any time.

Imagine what happens when CM & Pankaj discover this. Pankaj will want to kick her out, but CM won't, since that would result in Minal getting thrown out of Jaipur as well. 🤣

I do hope that @ the end of it all, when it all comes out, CM & Pankaj are kicked out of this family, and sent to Benaras. If Kesav-ji won't keep Minal, send her off w/ them as well.

And let Suday be the sole inheritors of the Vashisth khandan (assuming Pratik still ain't around)

Edited by Vrisha - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
Haha... it really is ironic the way Neelam's track is turning out. Everything they blamed Jyoti for, is coming right back at them with Neelam. Pankaj already is totally uninterested in this marriage, and it's going to be fun to see him get pushed around by his new wife. Karma at its best!😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
Today's episode was fantastic in more ways then one.

First of all, Poonam finally brought Jyoti down from her pedestal. What happened was that the broker who had been pestering Jyoti for money visited her house, since she hadn't paid up for the last 2 weeks. Jyoti asks him why he's insulting her, but he points out that there is no guarantee that she'll pay. He then asks Jyoti to pawn Poonam's jewelery, and Poonam goes in and comes out w/ the cash and gives it to him. The jeweler asks her that if she had the money, why were they hesitating to give it, but Poonam gives him a earful and tells him to get lost.

Jyoti then asks Poonam wherefrom she got the money, and she says that it doesn't matter - all she needed to do was ask, and she'd have given it. Dadi insists that Poonam disclose it, and she says that it was her pocket money given by her dad. Jyoti tells her that she should just be using it on herself or Deepu, and this time, Poonam gets right back @ her 👏
👏👏 She points out to Jyoti that she has no problems taking money from outsiders and getting insulted in return, but when it comes to taking money from in-laws, suddenly her self respect is stung. This time, Deepu too backs Poonam 👏👏 Padma too tells Jyoti that there was no need to borrow from outside and invite this scene. All this while, that great man KK is speechless, and just staring @ those who'd dare question Jyoti. That night, @ the balcony, Jyoti is just getting haunted by the words of the jeweler & Poonam, as well as the comments of Kabir earlier.

However, the poetic justice here - Poonam finally pays back the money that's been wasted on her, including the honeymoon fare. Had she been asked earlier, she'd have done it - instead, in the name of izzat, everybody acted like her money shouldn't be touched. And finally, she voices what I've argued for a long time - how is it more 'self-respecting' for Jyoti to borrow money from lenders who she can't pay back, and take salary advances, rather than borrow money from her relatives, including in-laws? Finally, Poonam has drilled into her what Bhairavi never could
👏👏

The other event - Sushma. At class, she's the object of ridicule, being pregnant, and is subject to endless teasing by the guys. Then, on the grounds, she threatens a guy w/ a stone, and he feigns being injured, and the entire class chases Sushma. The precap to Monday's episode has Sushma running into the road and being hit by a car. She falls injured.

So will Sushma survive? Will her baby survive? Will she go into early labor? Anybody's guess.

More details coming up in update later
Edited by Vrisha - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
I found Sushi's track interesting when she was with Brij and Jyoti wanted to reveal Brij's real face to Sushma... after all that is done and dusted, her character seems to be quite lame and useless to me. LOL. Having said that, I dont want her to die . Let her live and suffer in her maayka for whatever she has done in the past.. and be insulted by Poonam ... I dont want Jyoti to suffer because of her mistakes like sending Sushi to school or get her insulted by her classmates or get hit by a car etc etc.,

I want Jyoti didi's records to clear off mistakes and blames... hehehe..

Am I wishing for the unwishable ? lol

P.S : I am calling her Jyoti didi from now on... hehehe
Edited by sundara - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
u know i really liked the poonam track today..it made a hell lot more sense than jyoti borrowing money from God knows how many people,and more importantly,her words..when outsiders came in and had the gall to want to take the bahu's jwellery no1 in the family said a single word,bt when she pays him,every1 is jumping on her..btw,how come she gets pocketmoney from her father???and the sushma track is plain dumb..she can sit for her 12th std exams privately through correspondance with a lot more dignity than this..and it wud a tad cheaper as well..
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Posted: 15 years ago
Yes, if there is a possibility to do that, then definitely +2 correspondence would be the ideal solution.

Jyoti should know better... and there is only a limited amt of things she can do for the family with the income she gets. Why waste that in buying uniforms and paying hellish school fees? On top of that, ppl's insults... so these days, Jyoti is paying money to get more problems 😆 😆 In her sasuraal days, she was getting all problems for free 😆 😆

Poonam's track was good indeed. She knows how to face ppl and give them a str8fwd answer ..very good.. had this talent been in Jyoti, she could have handled CM much better than what she did till now. Like Poonam said, Jyoti should have accepted Vashisht alimony for whatever they have done to her... too late.. In the court, neither did she raise her voice to prove she was innocent nor did she get any alimony.. what sort of life is she living ? Grrrrrrr

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