NOVEL~*Hiding behind a Stranger*~THREAD 48 - CHAPTER 53 - Page 168

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Originally posted by: cute.manasi

kartikeya ji younger than ganeshji... 😕

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

hv heard this one & watched too...

actually akbar the great series has covered it partially , before wife he got to know about the incident .

Originally posted by: Kalgi22

Yes I also went 😕 when I first heard karthikeya is the elder. 😆 But we are believing Ganesha is the elder one.😃

Our Siva puranam and his sons stories are totally different from what we saw in DKDM.😳

Originally posted by: lashy

Sandy gimme till tonight...today I has guests for Navratri too and was deliberately being a good girl im morning, staying offline to type 54 😳

I have read similar articles on Akbar and it made my blood boil then too.. . I like Appu's words on it... he had his grey days but he was a fine emperor overall!

And the Maharana Pratap-Akbar war wasn't religious! it was about lands...most Rajput rulers At that period were Fighting amongst themselves Anyway!

Originally posted by: Kalgi22

Yes I also went 😕 when I first heard karthikeya is the elder. 😆 But we are believing Ganesha is the elder one.😃

Our Siva puranam and his sons stories are totally different from what we saw in DKDM.😳

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Quiz - 3 How thorough

1.What about her herbs reminded Heera of Khan Sahib at Bansi?

sandalwood

2.Who were Khan Sahib's targets and challengers?

targets - trees

challengers - wolves

3.On which side of the hallway in the Aidabad guest house was the narrow passageway that led to the door to the corridors of the main Haveli?

4.What was tinted beeswax used as?

lip gloss

5.Where was the farmaan hidden during Akbar's stint at the Caravansarai?

tunic

6. Where do the following come up

a) Silk kerchief -

b) Musln kerchief -

c) Scarf -

7. Who accompanied Heera to the temple?

bajrang & 2 maids

8. What is the distance between Aidabad and Bansi?

50 kos

9. Which character in HBAS is slightly chubby and very short?

10.Why did AMK make it look like the cellar and safe house caught fire?

to remove the evidence of Heera's inflammatory scrolls.

11. When else in the earlier chapters were the following used?

a) fumigators -

b) blinking signal- charanjith did that

12. When did Khan Sahib see Heera as a celestial nymph?

when heera saved him at canal...

13. What dinner did Charanjith propose to make at Parnagarh?

pilaf & lentils

14. Why did the Aidabad people stop charging rent for the Parnagarh Party?

their gratitude towards the sahiba for the treatment of bahadur .

15. How many neat pleats did Heera's veil have at the Sabha Niwas?

4

16. Give two features of the cotton bag that Khalil chose?

don't want to remember

Originally posted by: cute.manasi

16. Give two features of the cotton bag that Khalil chose?

don't want to remember

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

This is an older TOI article. Reminded me of Lavi's lament a few days ago. Just thought of sharing. 😕

In the latter half of the 16th century, when Elizabethan England was persecuting Catholics and the Spanish Inquisition had become an instrument of terror, one Indian ruler had established the first nursery of Indian secularism at Fatehpur Sikri. He held socio-religious and spiritual discussions with men of different faiths at the ibadatkhana. That was Mughal emperor Akbar, a man far ahead of his time

But the emperor's legacy is now under siege. Last week in Delhi, members of a Hindutva outfit defaced the signage of a road named after Akbar and several other Muslim rulers. They wanted these roads renamed after Hindu rulers like Shivaji and Maharana Pratap.

Days later, Union home minister Rajnath Singh demanded the epithet great' for Rana Pratap. He also said that the rest of the country should follow Rajasthan's example and devote a full chapter to the Mewar ruler in history textbooks. Many interpreted this as an official signal to knock down one of India's most remarkable rulers.

A smear campaign against the emperor seems to be currently running on social media. Tweets, Facebook posts, blogs and chainmail are calling Akbar a "rapist, looter and killer coming from a family of drunkards, illiterates, homosexuals and child molesters. And all sorts of falsehoods culled from TV serials, myths, legends, and propaganda are being passed off as the "real history of Akbar.

"It's unfortunate that people are so gullible that they lap up fiction as fact. While there can be no doubt that Maharana Pratap was an important figure in history, it's unfair to compare him with Akbar, says archaeologist and historian Dr KK Mohammed, who discovered Akbar's ibadatkhana at Fatehpur Sikri in the 1980s.

The scholar elaborates his point with a historical anecdote: "Once in Hormuz, some Portuguese had tied a copy of the Quran around the neck of an ass and released it in the market. Akbar's advisors asked the emperor to tie the Bible around a dog's neck and release it in Agra. Akbar refused. If the actions of the Portuguese were wrong, then this would be wrong too, he reasoned. His stance showed his remarkable mind and spirit.

Professor Jos Gommans of Leiden University says for the cohesion of India as a nation, Akbar will do a much better job as a hero than Rana Pratap or Shivaji. "Akbar inspired even Dutch liberals in the mid-19th century to build a secular society without religious interference.

Dirk Collier, author of The Emperor's Writings: Memories of Akbar the Great points out that historical facts are being ignored in the debate. "The resistance of Maharana Pratap against Akbar has often been portrayed as a desperate and noble struggle for Hindu independence against the overwhelmingly superior forces of a Muslim invader, but, as most historians agree, it was hardly that. The Hindu kings of Amber, Bikaner and Bundi sided with Akbar, and even Rana Pratap's own brother Sagaraj did the same. Pratap's army, on the other hand, included large Afghan contingents. Only 30 years before the fall of Chittor, an earlier Rana of Mewar had marched against the neighbouring king of Malwa in alliance with the Muslim sultan of Gujarat. In other words: the Mewar conflict was essentially one of local rivalries, he says.

A current television serial eulogises Rana Pratap and vilifies Akbar as an ever-scheming, bloodthirsty bigot. Its impact has been such that one blogger says her five-year-old neighbour is yet to study history but already hates Akbar. But, argues historian Tripta Wahi, Akbar's secularism remains unmatched even today. "He separated religion from the state his Tauheed-i-Illahi or Din-i-Illahi was essentially a reflection of that policy. It was Akbar who had abolished slavery in India. He also abolished sati in his empire, centuries before Sir William Bentinck, she says.

Wahi also points out that in the 1560s, when the Mughals were trying to create a bigger state system, the indigenous states, Hindu as well as Muslim, were resisting it. "Akbar was resisted by the Sharqis of Jaunpur, the Afghan sultans of Bengal, the Bahmani kingdom and its splinter states, Gujarat and Malwa all these were Muslim kingdoms. And some of them resisted for far longer than Mewar. Yet you don't hear the proponents of Hindutva talking about Chand Bibi or Malik Ambar of Ahmednagar sultanate.

Across the border in Pakistan, Akbar is not seen as a great ruler either. Islamic hardliners there sometimes dismiss him as the "infidel king for his secular views. All of Pakistan's missiles or weapon systems are named after Babur, Ahmed Shah Abdali, Mahmud of Ghazni or Muhammad Ghori but none after Akbar.

Originally posted by: cute.manasi

he is baby , but he was the first born i thought .